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Old 07-08-2008, 06:44 PM   #51
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Re: Found a major flaw in the h3 oil pan in a S10 !

Quote: Originally Posted by myth
Yes I do realize that ALL vehicles are different. Hell I realize it everyday, when I go to work. If he is such a great builder/mechanic, why does he take the fenders off. Why not just loosen or remove the 6 cab mounts and raise the cab a few inches?
Because It's my D@MN truck, and thats what the F#CK I paid him to do! When I took my truck to him, "I requested" that, I wanted my truck to be as user friendly as possible, because I'm over a 1000 miles away and would NOT want to have to bring it back to him for anything!!
You see, along the way (1000 miles one way x 2 complete trips would= $1200 in gas)to his shop, I passed up a many of so called shops that could have done my swap, probably cheaper and quicker. But, they would of hacked it-up and provided not shit for customer service, quality assurance or qaulity control (that's called R&D for the not so business minded people). I choose the "BEST LSX SWAP MASTER" I've seen. And guess what, i'll have something else for him to swap and it want be a S10 neither, when I go back to pick up my truck next week!! Scott, keep up the great work!
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Re: Found a major flaw in the h3 oil pan in a S10 !

Quote: Originally Posted by myth
Yes I do realize that ALL vehicles are different. Hell I realize it everyday, when I go to work. If he is such a great builder/mechanic, why does he take the fenders off. Why not just loosen or remove the 6 cab mounts and raise the cab a few inches?
Because I do it the right way ! Anyone who has ever worked on a s10 knows that the fenders have to come off to raise the cab or else you will bend the fenders. Therefore, the grill and bumber have to come off as well since the fender bolts are behind those pieces . DO YOU EVEN HAVE FENDERS ON YOUR TRUCK ? You probably don't have all the bolts in the bell housing anyway. Hell, I could take it out in an hour and a half to it there were only 2 bolts holding it in . Do you use alot of bread ties and duct tape ? Imagine laying on your back in your driveway(gravel I'm sure) And trying to get the top 3 bolts on the bell housing off (if they are actually there). would'nt it be nice to be able to tilt the transmission down (because of the notch)to be able to get to the very easily? You could have it out in less then an hour. That would free up some time to go look for some fenders.

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Re: Found a major flaw in the h3 oil pan in a S10 !

I'm sorry, I forgot that you are a Gm technician ! Note to self.....do not to take truck to your dealership for you raise the cab on my s10 !
Old 07-08-2008, 10:19 PM   #54
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Because I do it the right way ! Anyone who has ever worked on a s10 knows that the fenders have to come off to raise the cab or else you will bend the fenders. Therefore, the grill and bumber have to come off as well since the fender bolts are behind those pieces . DO YOU EVEN HAVE FENDERS ON YOUR TRUCK ? You probably don't have all the bolts in the bell housing anyway. Hell, I could take it out in an hour and a half to it there were only 2 bolts holding it in . Do you use alot of bread ties and duct tape ? Imagine laying on your back in your driveway(gravel I'm sure) And trying to get the top 3 bolts on the bell housing off (if they are actually there). would'nt it be nice to be able to tilt the transmission down (because of the notch)to be able to get to the very easily? You could have it out in less then an hour. That would free up some time to go look for some fenders.
Wow, Im suprised you even know what bread ties are hillbilly. And if you want to go there about the dealership work. Ill be happy to compare notes anytime. Oh ya, how many ase's do you have? Thats what I thought. Have any of you heard of the performance and dynotuning company RWTD. Besides, I have nothing to prove to you. I know my shit will go anywhere I want it to.
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Re: Found a major flaw in the h3 oil pan in a S10 !

No offense but ASE's really aren't that impressive......... And why the hell are you getting in a pissing contest over this? If it works for you, great, but why whore this thread with rants about your qualifications and then calling names??

Also, could you post up some pics of the multitude of LSx S10 swaps that you have completed? How about a link to your website?
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ass's do I have ? Oh ... you ment A.S.E certification ! (I had to step down to your level for a moment.) I have news for you rookie. That piece of paper and patch on your shoulder does'nt make you a good mechanic. It just says you can pass a test. Thats all a G.E.D is ! A test ! I've been tinkering with s10s since the late 80's ! Thats right 80's . I DO know more about them than you do . PERIOD ! I don't build theses trucks full time or even work as a mechanic full time ! But my guess is that I still know more than you do about automobile maintenence. By the way... This hillbilly has 2 degrees in Engineering (mechanical and industrial) . I think that trumps your A.S.E certification. Besides , I think my"shit" will and has taken me further than your "shit". So don't come in here talkng about "not having the right tool to do the job" which I probably have more tools than you also. Or talk about raising the cab without removing the fenders bullshit. So just take your 18 posts or so to some other forum that may believe your crap .

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Old 07-09-2008, 12:32 AM   #57
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Re: Found a major flaw in the h3 oil pan in a S10 !

Quote: Originally Posted by myth
Ill be happy to compare notes anytime.
I really don't want to compare notes with you .... you might learn a thing or two.

I sorry . That was tacky of me ! YOUS KNOWS HOWS US HILLBILLIES ARE !
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Re: Found a major flaw in the h3 oil pan in a S10 !

Quote: Originally Posted by v8power
ass's do I have ? Oh ... you ment A.S.E certification ! (I had to step down to your level for a moment.) I have news for you rookie. That piece of paper and patch on your shoulder does'nt make you a good mechanic. It just says you can pass a test. Thats all a G.E.D is ! A test ! I've been tinkering with s10s since the late 80's ! Thats right 80's . I DO know more about them than you do . PERIOD ! I don't build theses trucks full time or even work as a mechanic full time ! But my guess is that I still know more than you do about automobile maintenence. By the way... This hillbilly has 2 degrees in Engineering (mechanical and industrial) . I think that trumps your A.S.E certification. Besides , I think my"shit" will and has taken me further than your "shit". So don't come in here talkng about "not having the right tool to do the job" which I probably have more tools than you also. Or talk about raising the cab without removing the fenders bullshit. So just take your 18 posts or so to some other forum that may believe your crap .
I beee d@mned Scott!! You didn't have to do that rookie like that!!! He needs to quit now, because I know he's walking around with his head up his @ss, looking for a rock to crawl under.... my @ssss offff!

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Re: Found a major flaw in the h3 oil pan in a S10 !

I try to help people out by finding easier ways to do things and solutions for problems they might encounter with these swaps and this guy jumps in talking about stuff that he has NEVER delt with. Thats why I posted bout the H3 pan . Now everyone knows to at least look at the bellhousing issue before they continue with the conversion. How much possible aggrivation did I just save everyone?

By the way, the notch let me put the top bolt in by hand !

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Re: Found a major flaw in the h3 oil pan in a S10 !

Quote: Originally Posted by myth
Wow, Im suprised you even know what bread ties are hillbilly. And if you want to go there about the dealership work. Ill be happy to compare notes anytime. Oh ya, how many ase's do you have? Thats what I thought. Have any of you heard of the performance and dynotuning company RWTD. Besides, I have nothing to prove to you. I know my shit will go anywhere I want it to.
Young man , you really need to quit now, before you bite off more than you can chew! Oh and what is RWTD? Repair Work To Death.... meaning you never fix it right the first time ,or is it, Read What To Do..... Meaning you have to go alone with the repair manual, just toget from point A to B, STOP GO, STOP, GO, CHECK, GO, STOP........! I wish you would ask to compare my credentials with yours, lets just say, you would have to start with the FAA ......... but you probably don't have a clue to what that is anyway...huh?? Basically, I pay guys like you to change my oil and detail my auto's and tip them more than they make all day. I think that position is called a car porter or something. I didn't know you had to be ASE certified to do that job, my have times changed. V8power please correct me if i'm wrong about that, so i can appoligize to that ace parts changer.
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Re: Found a major flaw in the h3 oil pan in a S10 !

Don't go talkn' bad about the FFA ! Oopps ! Thats FAA !!!!! You know how us Hillbillies think !!!


Lets not get this HELPFULL thread locked . Just make it a sticky !

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Quote: Originally Posted by v8power
ass's do I have ? Oh ... you ment A.S.E certification ! (I had to step down to your level for a moment.) I have news for you rookie. That piece of paper and patch on your shoulder does'nt make you a good mechanic. It just says you can pass a test. Thats all a G.E.D is ! A test ! I've been tinkering with s10s since the late 80's ! Thats right 80's . I DO know more about them than you do . PERIOD ! I don't build theses trucks full time or even work as a mechanic full time ! But my guess is that I still know more than you do about automobile maintenence. By the way... This hillbilly has 2 degrees in Engineering (mechanical and industrial) . I think that trumps your A.S.E certification. Besides , I think my"shit" will and has taken me further than your "shit". So don't come in here talkng about "not having the right tool to do the job" which I probably have more tools than you also. Or talk about raising the cab without removing the fenders bullshit. So just take your 18 posts or so to some other forum that may believe your crap .
HMMM. thats funny. Isnt a degree just a peice of paper? Go bark up some one elses tree. Its not my fault that you have to work on your back in the dirt. And I probably have more in tools then your house is worth. Your right, you probably do know more then i do about s10s. But thats becasue I build race cars. Its much easier to build a 3 thousand dollar s10 then it is to build a 80 thousand dollar Z06.

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Quote: Originally Posted by born2fly
Young man , you really need to quit now, before you bite off more than you can chew! Oh and what is RWTD? Repair Work To Death.... meaning you never fix it right the first time ,or is it, Read What To Do..... Meaning you have to go alone with the repair manual, just toget from point A to B, STOP GO, STOP, GO, CHECK, GO, STOP........! I wish you would ask to compare my credentials with yours, lets just say, you would have to start with the FAA ......... but you probably don't have a clue to what that is anyway...huh?? Basically, I pay guys like you to change my oil and detail my auto's and tip them more than they make all day. I think that position is called a car porter or something. I didn't know you had to be ASE certified to do that job, my have times changed. V8power please correct me if i'm wrong about that, so i can appoligize to that ace parts changer.

All you are showing is your ignorance. Go back to paying people to build your shit, since you cant do it yourself.
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Re: Found a major flaw in the h3 oil pan in a S10 !

Quote: Originally Posted by myth
All you are showing is your ignorance. Go back to paying people to build your shit, since you cant do it yourself.
Man, don't take it personal, as we were only joking with you. But if we hurt your feelings, please pm me your paypal info and i will be glad to pay you for your pain and suffering. But look at it this way, if everyone changed their own oil or repaired their own vehicles, then you wouldn't have a job. Oh, by the way, i'm ignorant as hell even when i'm soaring high above the clouds too. Sincerely, BORN2FLY

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Re: Found a major flaw in the h3 oil pan in a S10 !

Whats your job title?

http://www.performancedynotuning.com/about.htm
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Re: Found a major flaw in the h3 oil pan in a S10 !

Quote: Originally Posted by myth
All you are showing is your ignorance. Go back to paying people to build your shit, since you cant do it yourself.
Most of the time it is not that they can't do it themselves it is that they either dont have the countless hours it takes to do a swap or choose to spend their time with more important things like their family.

v8power thanks for sharing the info on the problems you have encountered.

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Quote: Originally Posted by v8power
They don't do to bad of a job I had them rewire a 68 mustang not to long ago
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.... and if i didn't have time for my next s10 project, i would be calling v8
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a possible solution would be to do what we do on our race cars for easier trans removal line up where the bellhousing bolts would be and drill a hole in the firewall then when you need to drop the trans go inside the cab and use a long extension and unbolt the bellhousing bolts and put plugs in the holes when not in use (may have to pull carpet back to get to some of them)

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I was bored, so I decided to read up on old stuff I been missing.What in flying hell happen here?..lol
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just different opinions.Hell I kinda enjoyed reading it!!
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Re: Found a major flaw in the h3 oil pan in a S10 !

Not really a difference of opinions.

Quote: Originally Posted by myth
If he is such a great builder/mechanic, why does he take the fenders off. Why not just loosen or remove the 6 cab mounts and raise the cab a few inches?
What jackass here doesn't realize is the fenders are bolted to the cab so if you try to raise the cab with the fenders still bolted in place, you're going to either bend the fenders or the core support. My money would be on the fenders. Guess they don't teach common sense in those A.S.E. courses....
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Re: Found a major flaw in the h3 oil pan in a S10 !

Quote: Originally Posted by myth
All you are showing is your ignorance. Go back to paying people to build your shit, since you cant do it yourself.
Quote: Originally Posted by Mr Peanut
Most of the time it is not that they can't do it themselves it is that they either dont have the countless hours it takes to do a swap or choose to spend their time with more important things like their family.
Your wise beyond your years....

Quote: Originally Posted by myth
Have any of you heard of the performance and dynotuning company RWTD.
No, but you have heard of a company called....well....um. Nevermind.

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Quote: Originally Posted by v8power
ass's do I have ? Oh ... you ment A.S.E certification ! (I had to step down to your level for a moment.) I have news for you rookie. That piece of paper and patch on your shoulder does'nt make you a good mechanic. It just says you can pass a test...
Respectfully...

When I passed my ASE certification for A/C? I had never worked on A/C, did not know anything about it, and have not worked on it since. At that time, my flat rate was based on how many ASE certs I had, so... I was damn near a "Master Tech", without knowledge or experience.

I am going to go FAR out on a limb and suggest that I might not be the only individual whose certifications far exceed his ability.

Going to zip my sewer back up now, and quietly continue to gain knowledge from those who have expertise in their specific area... regardless of the wallpaper in their office (and that is ALL an ASE certificate is).
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A.S.E = Ask Someone Else....

right?
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