Electronic vs. Cable

[Thizz_Xtreme]

So the LS2 made it to the performance shop today getting ready to be rebuilt with a few extras. . . It came in with the electronically controlled 90mm throttle body, I had made plans to go cable by swapping the 58X Reluctor Wheel to a 24X to run the LS1 ECU but now I'm thinking twice. . . I was talking with the guy building the motor and he was telling me he didn't like DBW it feels disconnected and blah blah blah but I think its fine.


Just curious what other swappers thought of DBW vs. Cable

[FyberDesignz]

I am running drive by wire, soon to fire the engine up in a week or so. My tuner, hellbents10, will tell you most engine builders/tuners somtimes struggle with DBW systems. Main issues is stalling with these systems as can by a little tricky.

I think its super clean under the hood without a cable and just a plug going up there, plus I lucked out and my pedal fit very well reusing some of the stock mounting bolts for the OEM pedal.

I also have heard horrer stories about changing out reluctor wheels and ECMs. If its not broke don't fix it.

Run the DBW....

[SweetS10V8]

I run DBW, and use it all the time on dyno engines. People are afraid of technology.

Itll take more effort and cost more money to step backwards, it just doesnt make sence to me.....

[S15vortecpwr]

i am actuatly gonna go dbw when i do mine, claner and to me it is nothing new. maybe on gm products, but not in my bmw world. BMW has even gone to varible intake valve lift and just used the tb for a backup. I was really thinking about how I could cram the new M6/M6 6.0l v10 505 hp in there or even the new twin turbo V8 they have coming out. Now that would be a sweet ride. all of those are dbw

[Thizz_Xtreme]

yeah the DBW I thought would be nice to have because it looks good on the motor im trying to get a clean almost stock look. . . Im gonna give CPW a call to see what they can do. . . putting a bmw motor in an s10 crazy but I love the Idea i know it would be some work.

[S15vortecpwr]

lots of work to do the conversion

[lt1s10onair]

Quote: Originally Posted by S15vortecpwr

i am actuatly gonna go dbw when i do mine, claner and to me it is nothing new. maybe on gm products, but not in my bmw world. BMW has even gone to varible intake valve lift and just used the tb for a backup. I was really thinking about how I could cram the new M6/M6 6.0l v10 505 hp in there or even the new twin turbo V8 they have coming out. Now that would be a sweet ride. all of those are dbw

no offense, but that sounds like a waste..... dbw is not so difficult, but if i had the option, id go with a cable, cuz the dbw systems are so often problematic... maybe not on some over-engineered/overpriced germans, but the domestic dbw systems suck..... and not in a good way.
i must throw in tho, that converting to a cable will be costly, and probably not worth it in the long run, so id say leave it

[nycblazer96]

i have DBW but i like cable better. you can rev the engine while your under the hood with a cable throttle.

now with a DBW you actually have to be seated on the driver seat to give it gas.

[SweetS10V8]

Quote: Originally Posted by nycblazer96

i have DBW but i like cable better. you can rev the engine while your under the hood with a cable throttle.

now with a DBW you actually have to be seated on the driver seat to give it gas.

Why would you need to rev your engine while under the hood? You just sit with a laptop or scanner from the drivers seat.

There isnt much to adjust under the hood anymore???

[nycblazer96]

Quote: Originally Posted by SweetS10V8

Why would you need to rev your engine while under the hood? You just sit with a laptop or scanner from the drivers seat.

There isnt much to adjust under the hood anymore???

YOUR TELLING ME YOU DONT EVER REV YOUR ENGINE FROM UNDER THE HOOD.
i guess you didn't get my point, or maybe i'm still use to the old school still
but i still like to rev from under the hood....

[SweetS10V8]

Quote: Originally Posted by nycblazer96

YOUR TELLING ME YOU DONT EVER REV YOUR ENGINE FROM UNDER THE HOOD.

Nope, Never do.

I run a dyno, I hear engines revving all day. No need for useless noise..

[KJF95S-10]

But think about it. What could be better than cable? The gas pedal and throttle body are always on the same page. i just hate the delayed reaction of the DBW, you could drive through a parking lot and poke at the gas pedal real fast and absolutely nothing happens. Also, a giant actuator motor hanging off the left side of the throttle body doesn't exactly look clean to me. But I think it all comes down to preferences. If you want a throttle thats less touchy for slick road conditions and what not, just keep the DBW. I can't believe how cheap some of the big 90mm DBW TB's are going for, probably because nobody wants them.

[cams]

DBW is engineered to cancel out "poking" of the gas pedal. For instance, you are driving on a really bumpy road and your foot is all over the place on the pedal or even just one big bump on a highway. This makes for a smooth ride. Also you can change the "detached" feeling via tuning. Also I have a car with DBW and it does not feel detached at all.

[OUTLAW525YUP]

Anybody got a pic of a DBW pedal installe din a 1st gen? I'm workin real hard on a 6.2 that dropped a valve. You got to love working for GM, hopefully this will be a nice perk of the job

[AmericanMuscle]

i have the dbw pedal and throttle so i'm going to use it and vote for it.

[circa]

since i got the DBW pedal wires and plug with the engine free, its going on.