Beginning of 5.3L swap

Black X · 03-07-2007, 04:22 PM

That cam will have some excellent mid range grunt.

s10-den · 03-07-2007, 08:11 PM

Dont start getting in a hurry now,I know times call for desperate messures,but just take it slow and easy.

Christobevii3 · 03-07-2007, 08:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by s10-den

Dont start getting in a hurry now,I know times call for desperate messures,but just take it slow and easy.

I have spring break next week and no assignments I believe so I'll actually have all of this saturday till next saturday basically to do stuff!

Christobevii3 · 03-11-2007, 06:12 AM

Saturday I pulled most of the front and hood apart. The radiator is ready to come out too just need to undo a couple more wires.

I may be a day behind with sunday since it looks like it will rain all day. Try and take some pictures soon.

Christobevii3 · 03-12-2007, 07:01 PM

Alright, got a lot done today.

1. Front end is completely off
2. Wiring is all off except going into the ignition/guages
3. Exhaust is off

Tomorrow i hope to get the engine and tranny pulled and have the tranny get the shift kit put in.

BudRacing · 03-12-2007, 10:04 PM

:In my best Mortal Kombat voice: It has begun!

Christobevii3 · 03-13-2007, 09:48 PM

Ok, got the engine and tranny pulled today. Made a mess in the street but cleaned most of it up.

I'll try and get some pictures tomorrow since I can't do much with the tranny getting its upgrades and will do a little work (headers, intake, seprentine chasing) on my engine i'm putting in.

The wiring harness is now really holding me back though. I had ordered it on january 30th and two things i guess happend to delay the month ship date.

First the specs of my cam and swap were lost somehow and then the building process got behind. So I was hoping it would have been here last week but I guess not, and then was promised a ship date of last friday, which turned into shipping today. This has been the main reason I've gone so slow and hopefully it is here on thursday or friday otherwise i may have to just let my truck sit till school is out.

The computer programming machine he said has been in the shop since february 23, so who knows on that either.

6.0sonoma · 03-14-2007, 12:30 AM

When you run the ls2 pan are you supposed to take the metal windage tray out that the 5.3 trucks use. I was putting the cam and pan in mine tonight and thought the windage try stayed in until I saw it out in one of his pictures.??

Christobevii3 · 03-14-2007, 02:19 AM

I wasn't sure so I had ordered one. When i got the old one out it looked the same as the truck one, but i still put the new one in.

Christobevii3 · 03-15-2007, 08:52 PM

Alright guys, got a couple of pictures of for you. Obviously most of it is just a mess hah. You can also see the hoopty i'm driving in the background (96 sebring convertible, i haven't had any gay guys try to pick me up yet).

First here is the garage picture. The engine is waiting for the transmission (friday will be done), fuel lines/fittings to show up (next week argghhhh), and the wiring harness that ups has somewhere. The old engine looks like it is being lynched and puked all its tranny fluid into the driveway.

Second here, you can see my engine completely out and how my engine bay looks. Also, picture of the sebring in background.

**BUCKET** · 03-15-2007, 10:54 PM

I thought my garage was bad during the swap, damn!

Christobevii3 · 03-15-2007, 11:09 PM

You should see the third garage lol, my dad keeps all his tools and wood working stuff surrounding a 240z there.

BudRacing · 03-15-2007, 11:17 PM

Now would be an awesome time to change your control arm bushings. Everything is so open and easy to get to. I just took mine apart today and would have loved all that room.

And if you really want to make it a little more fun to drive, throw in a zq8/z28 steering box.

Christobevii3 · 03-15-2007, 11:21 PM

Do I need to change those bushings? It is only an 01 with 68,000 miles... Whats the zq8 steering box do? Make the wheels turn faster? I kinda like it how it is.

BudRacing · 03-16-2007, 12:25 AM

I'm at 133k, and mine are pretty worn out. With only 68k, yours should be in good shape.

The zq8 steering box is just a closer ratio steering box similar to the camaro's... so yes it does just that, turn the wheels faster.

I wish mine was more responsive though. You'll want it one day. Go test drive an X at some dealership, then drive a standard, you'll feel the difference.

Christobevii3 · 03-16-2007, 11:00 PM

Got my wiring harness today and fuel fittings. Need the hose and hose fittings to come in and we'll be good. I have a feeling next weekend will be the time stuff goes in.

Christobevii3 · 03-18-2007, 11:55 PM

Does anyone have the flow information of the stock 5.3L heads, intake and exhaust? from .1 inches to .6 inches.

Christobevii3 · 04-06-2007, 09:22 PM

Anyone know a place to order 6an hose from that is reliable?

circa · 04-07-2007, 01:25 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Christobevii3

Does anyone have the flow information of the stock 5.3L heads, intake and exhaust? from .1 inches to .6 inches.

LS1 Info and Specifications - SMOKEmUP.com

s10-den · 04-07-2007, 10:17 AM

Have you test fit the engine yet?

Christobevii3 · 04-07-2007, 02:46 PM

Christobevii3 · 04-10-2007, 09:13 PM

Hey guys I'm still trying to figure out a couple things on the fuel line.

I need to know how they fit the stock s10 filter into an An6 style fitting like in this picture and how they did it for the return line. Thanks

Zerocool350 · 04-11-2007, 10:13 AM

I dont know if this helps or not. I am going to run all stock s10 fuel all the way to the motor. From there I am going to cut the metal line at the motor put on some russell compression fitting to male 6AN then then run rubber fuel hose to the fuel rail that has the russell fuel rail 6AN on it.

here is the russell compression fitting. I am getting a 5/16 one and a 3/8 one

s10-den · 04-12-2007, 06:08 AM

Bevii,why didn you use the vett filter?Just wondering

jhankinson · 04-12-2007, 08:46 AM

Thats what I did...all stock hard line to the engine compartment...cut the lines...compression fittings...to 6an...to rubber fittings.....then just ran an aeromotive FPR...works like a charm.

Zerocool350 · 04-12-2007, 10:27 AM

I was just told that the vortec 5.3 has a FPR on the motor already. So i think i will be fine.

Christobevii3 · 04-12-2007, 09:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by s10-den

Bevii,why didn you use the vett filter?Just wondering

I am using the vette filter, but i have to connect it to the stock fuel lines still somehow. I'm wanting to keep the s10 fuel filter since it is cheaper to replace.

s10-den · 04-13-2007, 06:52 AM

2 fuel filters?....

Zerocool350 · 04-13-2007, 09:31 AM

Yeah there is another guy on here that did that. Just so they dont have to replace the vette filter.

Christobevii3 · 04-14-2007, 12:08 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by s10-den

2 fuel filters?....

Yup vette one is $40 and is being used as a regulator mroe than anything.

96s28 · 04-14-2007, 12:36 AM

Just curious to advantages of 5.3 as opposed to 5.7? Cheaper? What type of power do the 5.3's put down.

Christobevii3 · 04-14-2007, 03:10 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 96s28

Just curious to advantages of 5.3 as opposed to 5.7? Cheaper? What type of power do the 5.3's put down.

295HP stock, cheaper by a bit.

circa · 04-14-2007, 03:18 AM

supposebly stronger cranks, 5.3/4.8 cranks have no 'lightening holes' where the ls1 does to shave some weight, the power output should be noticeable in the low end more then the ls1 because one is geared for trucks where the other is passenger cars

practically same engine...different uses

96s28 · 04-14-2007, 10:30 AM

Was not aware of this, how much money can be saved by using 5.3 instead of ls1?

circa · 04-14-2007, 10:57 AM

lol depends soley on you, if you will be saving money.

Christobevii3 · 04-14-2007, 07:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 96s28

Was not aware of this, how much money can be saved by using 5.3 instead of ls1?

My 5.3L is a 2004 with 28K miles and was like $950 plus $200 shipping. If i were to get an ls1, i'd assume it would have to have around 80k miles to even be close to the price, that and most of them will have been driven hard.

circa · 04-14-2007, 07:56 PM

is it in yet?

Christobevii3 · 04-14-2007, 11:34 PM

No, i have to put a paypal dispute now for not getting my fuel line i paid for on march 28th yet...

Then find where the fuel line is, not have it rain and have tornados/hail for once too.

s10-den · 04-15-2007, 08:28 AM

which pan and mounts did you end up with?

Christobevii3 · 04-15-2007, 12:22 PM

Ls2 pan and the mounts from jared. I swear once I get this stupid fuel line in we'll start seeing some mounting of stuff in the vehicle.

Christobevii3 · 04-15-2007, 01:13 PM

Are these the adapters you used to adapt the stock s10 lines to 6an?

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1∂=EAR%2D165056ERL&N=700 +311223+115&autoview=sku

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1∂=RUS%2D639210&N=700+40 0081+305138+4294906726+115&autoview=sku

Zerocool350 · 04-15-2007, 10:04 PM

Yep those are the ones i will be using

s10-den · 04-16-2007, 09:01 AM

Supposedly,with the ls2 pan in a blazer,you wont have to notch the crossmember,if you do it wont be very much.

Zerocool350 · 04-16-2007, 09:07 AM

From what I read, the ls2 pan in the 2 wheel drive s10s there is very little cross member to be cut

Christobevii3 · 04-16-2007, 11:33 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Zerocool350

From what I read, the ls2 pan in the 2 wheel drive s10s there is very little cross member to be cut

Blazer has a slight body lift and higher mounting pads, but i swear, once i get this stupid fuel hose in i can start test fitting.

s10-den · 04-17-2007, 09:13 AM

why we all wait to see the test fit, the theme song for final jeapardy plays on......

xtremeist · 04-17-2007, 06:13 PM

you know the other day i was talkin to my uncle about using a 4L60E tranny and he suggested , to help compensate for the v8 power, that i look into some cryogenic stuff for it. he said that freezing everything then heating it up then letting cool of would drastically improve the durability of it. he said there are places that can do it for you. i think he is a little nuts but he does race dirt track and hasnt been wrong about anything yet so maybe you want to look into it?

circa · 04-17-2007, 07:09 PM

mikronite the drive gears

BudRacing · 04-17-2007, 07:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by xtremeist

you know the other day i was talkin to my uncle about using a 4L60E tranny and he suggested , to help compensate for the v8 power, that i look into some cryogenic stuff for it. he said that freezing everything then heating it up then letting cool of would drastically improve the durability of it. he said there are places that can do it for you. i think he is a little nuts but he does race dirt track and hasnt been wrong about anything yet so maybe you want to look into it?

Sounds just like work-hardening something. I wonder if you'd let it cool off slowly or clinch it in water. I'd think the clinching would make it brittle though... I dunno.

Christobevii3 · 04-17-2007, 08:38 PM

Ahhhhhhhh this damn fuel hose.

I called yesterday and got "It was suppose to have shipped from our supplier and we can't get through because their phone is busy."

Today "They are suppose to call us back and haven't yet. You know though, I'll call them and get back to you."

No call returned or anything...so it was suppose to have shipped march 28th...

03-07-2007, 04:22 PM	#101
Black X 9.38@153.6 Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,637 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap That cam will have some excellent mid range grunt.
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03-07-2007, 08:11 PM	#102
s10-den takes 2 balls in our game Age: 37 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,711 Location: florida User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Dont start getting in a hurry now,I know times call for desperate messures,but just take it slow and easy.
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03-07-2007, 08:28 PM	#103
Christobevii3 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 504 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Quote: Originally Posted by s10-den Dont start getting in a hurry now,I know times call for desperate messures,but just take it slow and easy. I have spring break next week and no assignments I believe so I'll actually have all of this saturday till next saturday basically to do stuff!
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03-11-2007, 06:12 AM	#104
Christobevii3 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 504 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Saturday I pulled most of the front and hood apart. The radiator is ready to come out too just need to undo a couple more wires. I may be a day behind with sunday since it looks like it will rain all day. Try and take some pictures soon.
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03-12-2007, 07:01 PM	#105
Christobevii3 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 504 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Alright, got a lot done today. 1. Front end is completely off 2. Wiring is all off except going into the ignition/guages 3. Exhaust is off Tomorrow i hope to get the engine and tranny pulled and have the tranny get the shift kit put in.
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03-12-2007, 10:04 PM	#106
BudRacing Molon Labe Age: 23 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,073 Location: Decatur, Ga User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap :In my best Mortal Kombat voice: It has begun!
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03-13-2007, 09:48 PM	#107
Christobevii3 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 504 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Ok, got the engine and tranny pulled today. Made a mess in the street but cleaned most of it up. I'll try and get some pictures tomorrow since I can't do much with the tranny getting its upgrades and will do a little work (headers, intake, seprentine chasing) on my engine i'm putting in. The wiring harness is now really holding me back though. I had ordered it on january 30th and two things i guess happend to delay the month ship date. First the specs of my cam and swap were lost somehow and then the building process got behind. So I was hoping it would have been here last week but I guess not, and then was promised a ship date of last friday, which turned into shipping today. This has been the main reason I've gone so slow and hopefully it is here on thursday or friday otherwise i may have to just let my truck sit till school is out. The computer programming machine he said has been in the shop since february 23, so who knows on that either.
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03-14-2007, 12:30 AM	#108
6.0sonoma CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 10 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap When you run the ls2 pan are you supposed to take the metal windage tray out that the 5.3 trucks use. I was putting the cam and pan in mine tonight and thought the windage try stayed in until I saw it out in one of his pictures.??
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03-14-2007, 02:19 AM	#109
Christobevii3 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 504 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap I wasn't sure so I had ordered one. When i got the old one out it looked the same as the truck one, but i still put the new one in.
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03-15-2007, 08:52 PM	#110
Christobevii3 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 504 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Alright guys, got a couple of pictures of for you. Obviously most of it is just a mess hah. You can also see the hoopty i'm driving in the background (96 sebring convertible, i haven't had any gay guys try to pick me up yet). First here is the garage picture. The engine is waiting for the transmission (friday will be done), fuel lines/fittings to show up (next week argghhhh), and the wiring harness that ups has somewhere. The old engine looks like it is being lynched and puked all its tranny fluid into the driveway. Second here, you can see my engine completely out and how my engine bay looks. Also, picture of the sebring in background.
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03-15-2007, 10:54 PM	#111
BUCKET RITALIN, IT LOVES ME! Age: 29 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,773 Location: c-view FL User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap I thought my garage was bad during the swap, damn!
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03-15-2007, 11:09 PM	#112
Christobevii3 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 504 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap You should see the third garage lol, my dad keeps all his tools and wood working stuff surrounding a 240z there.
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03-15-2007, 11:17 PM	#113
BudRacing Molon Labe Age: 23 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,073 Location: Decatur, Ga User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Now would be an awesome time to change your control arm bushings. Everything is so open and easy to get to. I just took mine apart today and would have loved all that room. And if you really want to make it a little more fun to drive, throw in a zq8/z28 steering box. Last edited by BudRacing : 03-15-2007 at 11:18 PM.
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03-15-2007, 11:21 PM	#114
Christobevii3 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 504 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Do I need to change those bushings? It is only an 01 with 68,000 miles... Whats the zq8 steering box do? Make the wheels turn faster? I kinda like it how it is.
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03-16-2007, 12:25 AM	#115
BudRacing Molon Labe Age: 23 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,073 Location: Decatur, Ga User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap I'm at 133k, and mine are pretty worn out. With only 68k, yours should be in good shape. The zq8 steering box is just a closer ratio steering box similar to the camaro's... so yes it does just that, turn the wheels faster. I wish mine was more responsive though. You'll want it one day. Go test drive an X at some dealership, then drive a standard, you'll feel the difference.
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03-16-2007, 11:00 PM	#116
Christobevii3 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 504 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Got my wiring harness today and fuel fittings. Need the hose and hose fittings to come in and we'll be good. I have a feeling next weekend will be the time stuff goes in.
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03-18-2007, 11:55 PM	#117
Christobevii3 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 504 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Does anyone have the flow information of the stock 5.3L heads, intake and exhaust? from .1 inches to .6 inches.
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04-06-2007, 09:22 PM	#118
Christobevii3 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 504 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Anyone know a place to order 6an hose from that is reliable?
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04-07-2007, 01:25 AM	#119
circa ɔıɹɔ& Age: 22 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,085 Location: Puyallup, Wa User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Quote: Originally Posted by Christobevii3 Does anyone have the flow information of the stock 5.3L heads, intake and exhaust? from .1 inches to .6 inches. LS1 Info and Specifications - SMOKEmUP.com
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04-07-2007, 10:17 AM	#120
s10-den takes 2 balls in our game Age: 37 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,711 Location: florida User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Have you test fit the engine yet?
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04-07-2007, 02:46 PM	#121
Christobevii3 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 504 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Nope
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04-10-2007, 09:13 PM	#122
Christobevii3 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 504 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Hey guys I'm still trying to figure out a couple things on the fuel line. I need to know how they fit the stock s10 filter into an An6 style fitting like in this picture and how they did it for the return line. Thanks
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04-11-2007, 10:13 AM	#123
Zerocool350 Sdimess84 Age: 25 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 650 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap I dont know if this helps or not. I am going to run all stock s10 fuel all the way to the motor. From there I am going to cut the metal line at the motor put on some russell compression fitting to male 6AN then then run rubber fuel hose to the fuel rail that has the russell fuel rail 6AN on it. here is the russell compression fitting. I am getting a 5/16 one and a 3/8 one
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04-12-2007, 06:08 AM	#124
s10-den takes 2 balls in our game Age: 37 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,711 Location: florida User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Bevii,why didn you use the vett filter?Just wondering
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04-12-2007, 08:46 AM	#125
jhankinson Registered User Age: 29 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 358 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Thats what I did...all stock hard line to the engine compartment...cut the lines...compression fittings...to 6an...to rubber fittings.....then just ran an aeromotive FPR...works like a charm.
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04-12-2007, 10:27 AM	#126
Zerocool350 Sdimess84 Age: 25 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 650 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap I was just told that the vortec 5.3 has a FPR on the motor already. So i think i will be fine.
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04-12-2007, 09:59 PM	#127
Christobevii3 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 504 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Quote: Originally Posted by s10-den Bevii,why didn you use the vett filter?Just wondering I am using the vette filter, but i have to connect it to the stock fuel lines still somehow. I'm wanting to keep the s10 fuel filter since it is cheaper to replace.
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04-13-2007, 06:52 AM	#128
s10-den takes 2 balls in our game Age: 37 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,711 Location: florida User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap 2 fuel filters?....
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04-13-2007, 09:31 AM	#129
Zerocool350 Sdimess84 Age: 25 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 650 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Yeah there is another guy on here that did that. Just so they dont have to replace the vette filter.
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04-14-2007, 12:08 AM	#130
Christobevii3 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 504 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Quote: Originally Posted by s10-den 2 fuel filters?.... Yup vette one is $40 and is being used as a regulator mroe than anything.
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04-14-2007, 12:36 AM	#131
96s28 Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 54 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Just curious to advantages of 5.3 as opposed to 5.7? Cheaper? What type of power do the 5.3's put down.
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04-14-2007, 03:10 AM	#132
Christobevii3 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 504 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Quote: Originally Posted by 96s28 Just curious to advantages of 5.3 as opposed to 5.7? Cheaper? What type of power do the 5.3's put down. 295HP stock, cheaper by a bit.
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04-14-2007, 03:18 AM	#133
circa ɔıɹɔ& Age: 22 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,085 Location: Puyallup, Wa User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap supposebly stronger cranks, 5.3/4.8 cranks have no 'lightening holes' where the ls1 does to shave some weight, the power output should be noticeable in the low end more then the ls1 because one is geared for trucks where the other is passenger cars practically same engine...different uses
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04-14-2007, 10:30 AM	#134
96s28 Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 54 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap Was not aware of this, how much money can be saved by using 5.3 instead of ls1?
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04-14-2007, 10:57 AM	#135
circa ɔıɹɔ& Age: 22 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,085 Location: Puyallup, Wa User is: OffLine	Re: Beginning of 5.3L swap lol depends soley on you, if you will be saving money.
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