Anyone with 4L80Es???

Petro · 10-01-2009, 12:06 PM

I was just wondering how much massaging of the trans tunnel you needed with the 4L80E...And any other advice/tips you could provide with your use of a 4L80E...I know the 80E is heavier and longer with a different splined output shaft...and different gear ratios...For a normal daily driver I don't suppose there a lot of terrible downsides to one over a 60E...But a stock one should hold as well as a built 60E from what I've read....Correct???

**Kampz69** · 10-01-2009, 12:26 PM

acehaag has one i believe, i think he simply hammered the body seam and it fit ok. he had long tubes also, i think. yea it is heavier (roughly 50 lbs IIRC), and the first gear ratio is not the best (2.48:1), but it is strong in stock form, and can be built for serious power levels. i would probably go with a built 60e, i am sold on blackx's experience with his...

S10SittnonDUBS · 10-01-2009, 01:14 PM

Black X has had great results with his, but the 80e can take more power if built correctly.

zx9rgreen · 10-01-2009, 02:36 PM

T56...that is all

**poconojoe** · 10-01-2009, 02:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by zx9rgreen

T56...that is all

That is if you want something that breaks even faster then a 4L60E

Petro · 10-01-2009, 03:14 PM

Of course anything that is built properly will hold up and last...But what I am debating is buy a built 4L60/65E or just go with a stock 4L80E from the yard...

**Kampz69** · 10-01-2009, 03:18 PM

it seems the issue most people have is the weight, not necessarily getting it to fit. youre already going to need a new driveshaft right? so that wont matter...not sure on the trans crossmember though. the 80e might be a good idea if you plan on doing anything major down the road.

Petro · 10-01-2009, 03:22 PM

Well apparently BRP's crossmember fits the 60E and 80E just have to flip it for the 80E...(There is a seperate one for the T56) And since it is longer it will help with my plans of doing a one piece shaft. ( By shortening the shaft and helping with clearance issues. )

**Kampz69** · 10-01-2009, 04:05 PM

i gotcha. had to throw another question about the build in there didnt ya lol

**poconojoe** · 10-01-2009, 05:02 PM

If you're going with the yard tranny I'd plan on freshing it up.
I have both a 65 and an 80, I think the big noticable differance is the weight.
I'm going to use the 80 for my Safari van swap, when I get the time to do it. There's plenty of room under there for it

Petro · 10-01-2009, 06:18 PM

How much more does the pan hang down than the stock 60Es...Would a "deep pan" for the 80E be "deeper" than a 60E "deep pan"?? I am in no way a transmission guy so sorry if that question sounded stupid....

**Kampz69** · 10-01-2009, 07:38 PM

dont hold me to this but i thought it was just a tad wider and longer, not necessarily "taller". in other words, i think the pan is at the same level as the 60e pan. do you already have a deep pan on your truck?

EDIT: http://www.tciauto.com/Products/TechInfo/trans_dims.asp

some other dimension info there, but i cant find a "height"...

**Kampz69** · 10-01-2009, 07:45 PM

the only thing i can find is that they have the same bellhousing height, 20 inches....

**Kampz69** · 10-01-2009, 07:48 PM

wow i am post happy tonight

read post #7 in this thread; apprently the pan does hang a bit lower.
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/lt...e-instead.html

Petro · 10-01-2009, 07:54 PM

Did the 4.3 Vin "W" Auto come stock with a deep pan?? I had thought the 80E was longer by more than that..Hmmm....That one guy said just everything to control his 4L80E was $1300!!! WTF?!?!

**Kampz69** · 10-01-2009, 07:58 PM

youd have to look at your pan to tell, it seems it was one of those no rhyme or reason GM things, some had them some didnt. i think the 4wds all had them, but ive read that some 4wds didnt...if your pan is completely flat then its the shallow pan. the deep pans have a bump in the pan after the crossmember to allow it to fit, if that makes sense...

Petro · 10-01-2009, 08:02 PM

It looks deep to me...The bottom of the pan is even with the bottom of the trans crossmember...

**Kampz69** · 10-01-2009, 08:45 PM

so your pan dips down then? like its shallower above the crossmember? if so then yes thats a deep pan.

Petro · 10-01-2009, 09:18 PM

Well none of it goes above the crossmember but it's about 2.5" tall and then towards the rear near the crossmember it gets a shallower for about a length of 2"? ..... I forgot to ask why you originally asked...

**Kampz69** · 10-01-2009, 10:39 PM

just trying to determine if you have a deep pan already installed so you have something to compare the 80e pan to.

Petro · 10-01-2009, 10:45 PM

Gotcha

PPI Typhoon · 10-02-2009, 12:16 AM

I have an 80e in my Typhoon. It took just a bit of bending of the front lip at the firewall to allow the trans to fit. I also had to use a custom crossmember.

sparkwire · 10-05-2009, 09:22 PM

http://www.turbols6.com/gallery/TYPH...X-TURBO?page=6
Here's a 80e in my typhoon, I have a lot of pics just need to organize them, LOL!! I have a custom crossmember and flatened the firewall bead.

12sec ss · 10-16-2009, 12:25 PM

I got a 4L80E in my '00 Blazer, took no modifications getting it in there, other then having to make the crossmember. My truck makes 977rwhp with 370LSx and PT88 @ 22lbs boost.

**Kampz69** · 10-16-2009, 12:30 PM

^ pure win right there.

KJF95S-10 · 10-16-2009, 01:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 12sec ss

I got a 4L80E in my '00 Blazer, took no modifications getting it in there, other then having to make the crossmember. My truck makes 977rwhp with 370LSx and PT88 @ 22lbs boost.

Well that certainly puts it in perspective.

Anymore questions guys? Now I must ask for some kind of media of your truck sir, sounds sick.

12sec ss · 10-17-2009, 11:49 AM

Heres the one video I have at the track...ran 10.5 at 139 and got kicked out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG2xJ9HbqLc

12sec ss · 10-19-2009, 10:15 AM

found a dyno video too..

http://blip.tv/file/2332412

**Kampz69** · 10-19-2009, 10:27 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 12sec ss

found a dyno video too..

http://blip.tv/file/2332412

absolutely sick man. you still running the stock rear?

KJF95S-10 · 10-19-2009, 06:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 12sec ss

found a dyno video too..

http://blip.tv/file/2332412

That is genuinely badass. Something tells me those zq8's arent up to the task.lol it looks sleeper as hell though. How does the full elbow clear the hood on that edelbrock intake? I was wanting to go the same route when I boost mine.

12sec ss · 10-19-2009, 09:19 PM

Still on stock 8.5" rear with 3.42s and a detroit truetrak.

The full size elbow doesnt clear the hood even with all the reinforcements cut out. I ended up buying a 2" cowl hood.

**Kampz69** · 10-19-2009, 09:52 PM

anything else done to that rear? stock axles? did you weld the tubes?

12sec ss · 10-20-2009, 12:43 PM

Nothing else is done, stock axels and nothing welded

The truck doesnt leave hard, and im running drag radials on stock rims. Now, when im going to be spraying out of the hole to spool the turbo and put a tire on it, then it may be a different story

**Kampz69** · 10-20-2009, 12:56 PM

sweet man, thanks

turbobandit · 10-21-2009, 04:17 PM

Forget about it, find a junked caddy escalade, and put in a 6L80e

SIX SPEED auto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Kampz69** · 10-21-2009, 04:23 PM

^ just need a way to control it, heck yes it would be sweet

AceHaag · 10-21-2009, 04:40 PM

here is an old thread i made about the subject

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f10/4l...he-s10-293684/

since then my truck has been crashed and I am getting rid of the headers, tranny, and x-member if any one is interested

S10SittnonDUBS · 10-21-2009, 05:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 12sec ss

Nothing else is done, stock axels and nothing welded The truck doesnt leave hard, and im running drag radials on stock rims. Now, when im going to be spraying out of the hole to spool the turbo and put a tire on it, then it may be a different story

This is the tune time blazer isn't it?

12sec ss · 10-21-2009, 10:34 PM

well no, its my blazer that I had tunetime do some work on

denali_on_26's · 10-22-2009, 06:16 PM

i gotta TCI street fighter 3000-3400 stall for a 4l80e for sale....

Petro · 10-31-2009, 07:50 PM

HMMM...I will be looking for a junkyard 4L80E then maybe...

10-01-2009, 12:06 PM	#1
Petro Killing Time Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,999 Location: Sadr City , Iraq User is: OffLine	Anyone with 4L80Es??? I was just wondering how much massaging of the trans tunnel you needed with the 4L80E...And any other advice/tips you could provide with your use of a 4L80E...I know the 80E is heavier and longer with a different splined output shaft...and different gear ratios...For a normal daily driver I don't suppose there a lot of terrible downsides to one over a 60E...But a stock one should hold as well as a built 60E from what I've read....Correct??? Last edited by Petro : 10-01-2009 at 12:12 PM.
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10-01-2009, 12:26 PM	#2
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,931 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? acehaag has one i believe, i think he simply hammered the body seam and it fit ok. he had long tubes also, i think. yea it is heavier (roughly 50 lbs IIRC), and the first gear ratio is not the best (2.48:1), but it is strong in stock form, and can be built for serious power levels. i would probably go with a built 60e, i am sold on blackx's experience with his...
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10-01-2009, 01:14 PM	#3
S10SittnonDUBS Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 342 Location: Cloud 9 User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? Black X has had great results with his, but the 80e can take more power if built correctly.
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10-01-2009, 02:36 PM	#4
zx9rgreen On da bottle Age: 32 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,239 Location: Wetumpka, AL User is: Online	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? T56...that is all Last edited by zx9rgreen : 10-01-2009 at 02:40 PM.
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10-01-2009, 02:41 PM	#5
poconojoe Post Whore Age: 56 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,521 Location: NEPA User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? Quote: Originally Posted by zx9rgreen T56...that is all That is if you want something that breaks even faster then a 4L60E
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10-01-2009, 03:14 PM	#6
Petro Killing Time Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,999 Location: Sadr City , Iraq User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? Of course anything that is built properly will hold up and last...But what I am debating is buy a built 4L60/65E or just go with a stock 4L80E from the yard...
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10-01-2009, 03:18 PM	#7
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,931 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? it seems the issue most people have is the weight, not necessarily getting it to fit. youre already going to need a new driveshaft right? so that wont matter...not sure on the trans crossmember though. the 80e might be a good idea if you plan on doing anything major down the road.
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10-01-2009, 03:22 PM	#8
Petro Killing Time Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,999 Location: Sadr City , Iraq User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? Well apparently BRP's crossmember fits the 60E and 80E just have to flip it for the 80E...(There is a seperate one for the T56) And since it is longer it will help with my plans of doing a one piece shaft. ( By shortening the shaft and helping with clearance issues. )
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10-01-2009, 04:05 PM	#9
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,931 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? i gotcha. had to throw another question about the build in there didnt ya lol
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10-01-2009, 05:02 PM	#10
poconojoe Post Whore Age: 56 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,521 Location: NEPA User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? If you're going with the yard tranny I'd plan on freshing it up. I have both a 65 and an 80, I think the big noticable differance is the weight. I'm going to use the 80 for my Safari van swap, when I get the time to do it. There's plenty of room under there for it
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10-01-2009, 06:18 PM	#11
Petro Killing Time Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,999 Location: Sadr City , Iraq User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? How much more does the pan hang down than the stock 60Es...Would a "deep pan" for the 80E be "deeper" than a 60E "deep pan"?? I am in no way a transmission guy so sorry if that question sounded stupid....
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10-01-2009, 07:38 PM	#12
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,931 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? dont hold me to this but i thought it was just a tad wider and longer, not necessarily "taller". in other words, i think the pan is at the same level as the 60e pan. do you already have a deep pan on your truck? EDIT: http://www.tciauto.com/Products/TechInfo/trans_dims.asp some other dimension info there, but i cant find a "height"... Last edited by Kampz69 : 10-01-2009 at 07:40 PM.
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10-01-2009, 07:45 PM	#13
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,931 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? the only thing i can find is that they have the same bellhousing height, 20 inches....
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10-01-2009, 07:48 PM	#14
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,931 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? wow i am post happy tonight read post #7 in this thread; apprently the pan does hang a bit lower. http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/lt...e-instead.html
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10-01-2009, 07:54 PM	#15
Petro Killing Time Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,999 Location: Sadr City , Iraq User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? Did the 4.3 Vin "W" Auto come stock with a deep pan?? I had thought the 80E was longer by more than that..Hmmm....That one guy said just everything to control his 4L80E was $1300!!! WTF?!?! Last edited by Petro : 10-01-2009 at 07:58 PM.
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10-01-2009, 07:58 PM	#16
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,931 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? youd have to look at your pan to tell, it seems it was one of those no rhyme or reason GM things, some had them some didnt. i think the 4wds all had them, but ive read that some 4wds didnt...if your pan is completely flat then its the shallow pan. the deep pans have a bump in the pan after the crossmember to allow it to fit, if that makes sense...
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10-01-2009, 08:02 PM	#17
Petro Killing Time Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,999 Location: Sadr City , Iraq User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? It looks deep to me...The bottom of the pan is even with the bottom of the trans crossmember...
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10-01-2009, 08:45 PM	#18
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,931 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? so your pan dips down then? like its shallower above the crossmember? if so then yes thats a deep pan.
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10-01-2009, 09:18 PM	#19
Petro Killing Time Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,999 Location: Sadr City , Iraq User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? Well none of it goes above the crossmember but it's about 2.5" tall and then towards the rear near the crossmember it gets a shallower for about a length of 2"? ..... I forgot to ask why you originally asked...
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10-01-2009, 10:39 PM	#20
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,931 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? just trying to determine if you have a deep pan already installed so you have something to compare the 80e pan to.
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10-01-2009, 10:45 PM	#21
Petro Killing Time Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,999 Location: Sadr City , Iraq User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? Gotcha
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10-02-2009, 12:16 AM	#22
PPI Typhoon Registered User Age: 33 Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 137 Location: Phoenix, AZ User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? I have an 80e in my Typhoon. It took just a bit of bending of the front lip at the firewall to allow the trans to fit. I also had to use a custom crossmember.
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10-05-2009, 09:22 PM	#23
sparkwire Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 48 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? http://www.turbols6.com/gallery/TYPH...X-TURBO?page=6 Here's a 80e in my typhoon, I have a lot of pics just need to organize them, LOL!! I have a custom crossmember and flatened the firewall bead. Last edited by sparkwire : 10-05-2009 at 09:24 PM.
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10-16-2009, 12:25 PM	#24
12sec ss Registered User Age: 29 Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 109 Location: Brooklyn, NY User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? I got a 4L80E in my '00 Blazer, took no modifications getting it in there, other then having to make the crossmember. My truck makes 977rwhp with 370LSx and PT88 @ 22lbs boost.
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10-16-2009, 12:30 PM	#25
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,931 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? ^ pure win right there.
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10-16-2009, 01:03 PM	#26
KJF95S-10 Two tones of terror Age: 19 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 546 Location: Tampa, FL User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? Quote: Originally Posted by 12sec ss I got a 4L80E in my '00 Blazer, took no modifications getting it in there, other then having to make the crossmember. My truck makes 977rwhp with 370LSx and PT88 @ 22lbs boost. Well that certainly puts it in perspective. Anymore questions guys? Now I must ask for some kind of media of your truck sir, sounds sick.
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10-17-2009, 11:49 AM	#27
12sec ss Registered User Age: 29 Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 109 Location: Brooklyn, NY User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? Heres the one video I have at the track...ran 10.5 at 139 and got kicked out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG2xJ9HbqLc Last edited by 12sec ss : 10-17-2009 at 11:50 AM.
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10-19-2009, 10:15 AM	#28
12sec ss Registered User Age: 29 Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 109 Location: Brooklyn, NY User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? found a dyno video too.. http://blip.tv/file/2332412
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10-19-2009, 10:27 AM	#29
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,931 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? Quote: Originally Posted by 12sec ss found a dyno video too.. http://blip.tv/file/2332412 absolutely sick man. you still running the stock rear?
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10-19-2009, 06:52 PM	#30
KJF95S-10 Two tones of terror Age: 19 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 546 Location: Tampa, FL User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? Quote: Originally Posted by 12sec ss found a dyno video too.. http://blip.tv/file/2332412 That is genuinely badass. Something tells me those zq8's arent up to the task.lol it looks sleeper as hell though. How does the full elbow clear the hood on that edelbrock intake? I was wanting to go the same route when I boost mine.
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10-19-2009, 09:19 PM	#31
12sec ss Registered User Age: 29 Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 109 Location: Brooklyn, NY User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? Still on stock 8.5" rear with 3.42s and a detroit truetrak. The full size elbow doesnt clear the hood even with all the reinforcements cut out. I ended up buying a 2" cowl hood.
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10-19-2009, 09:52 PM	#32
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,931 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? anything else done to that rear? stock axles? did you weld the tubes?
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10-20-2009, 12:43 PM	#33
12sec ss Registered User Age: 29 Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 109 Location: Brooklyn, NY User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? Nothing else is done, stock axels and nothing welded The truck doesnt leave hard, and im running drag radials on stock rims. Now, when im going to be spraying out of the hole to spool the turbo and put a tire on it, then it may be a different story
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10-20-2009, 12:56 PM	#34
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,931 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? sweet man, thanks
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10-21-2009, 04:17 PM	#35
turbobandit Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 386 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Anyone with 4L80Es??? Forget about it, find a junked caddy escalade, and put in a 6L80e SIX SPEED auto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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