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5.3 turbo build VS Racing 7875

Hey guys I'm starting my 89 blazer build . I will be using a VS Racing 7875 billet turbo on a 5.3 . I started building the cross over pipes today and I notice that the truck manifolds facing forward hit the steering column shaft . Any ideas how I can fix this. I can't move over the engine any more . Here are some pics . Enjoy.

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I've never seen someone successfully do that. However, to gain room there's the jeep steering shaft mod, and/or you can slot the mounting holes in the column to move it over, and/or put washers between the steering box and frame on the lower bolts to angle it.

G/L with the build, I'm going to use the same turbo on mine.
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No Green : what is it that you haven't seen someone successfully do? Now you got me scare lol .. are you talking about utilizing the truck manifolds facing forward ?
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No Green : what is it that you haven't seen someone successfully do? Now you got me scare lol .. are you talking about utilizing the truck manifolds facing forward ?

Correct, if you get those manifolds to clear the steering shaft in an s10, you'd be the first that I've seen. However, it looks like you don't have too far to go from the pictures?

Another thing I've seen is angle (or strait) mill the flange on the manifold to get it to clear. I've even seen a guy notch the manifold, and weld in a pipe, but it looked butch.
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Green : what manifolds are guys using then , I rather just buy the manifold that will clear .
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Green : what manifolds are guys using then , I rather just buy the manifold that will clear .
I'm building logs. starting them next month.
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Does anyone know what manifolds are known to clear the steering shaft without building logs ?
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There are no stock manifolds or headers known to clear in an S10 LS swap when forward facing. Everything I've ever heard of always hits the steering shaft. That's why everyone either runs a custom setup or a modified driverside header or manifold.

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How can I modify the manifold ? Just grind away material ?
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just move the column down and over. cut the hole where the column comes through the firewall and drill new holes
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just move the column down and over. cut the hole where the column comes through the firewall and drill new holes
Are there any pictures of this mod ? How much can I move it over (about 1 1/2" ? )
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Got it to work .
1) shim the gear box to angle it
2) move the steering column, down and to the right
3) 3 minutes of grinding the manifold sides
4) 20 hours of stressing 30 minutes of work time .
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Nice!! Put up some more pictures when you're further along.
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Yeah glad to hear you got it to fit. Post up some pics from the front/driver corner so we can see how it fits better. Do you have the front accessories drive on?

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I'm changing the route I'm taking with the downpipe . I tacked in place some V-bands to see if I like it .
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Is this water to air inercooler to small ? It measures 5x8. I want to keep my AC . Any other ideas ?

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I didn't realize you need a heat exchanger for the water to air inercooler... now I have no idea where to put it. Need advise on this one .
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I'm (hopefuly) going to put a treadstone tr1235 in mine in front of the condenser, but not until after Christmas.

I bought a used a/w intercooler, but once I figured out the pump and heat exhanger would be more money than the treadstone, and more complex, I changed it up.

This was my plan, but not sure about servicing it (dumping water all over the engine when I take it off) and it needed surgery after I installed the wiper motor it didnt fit this nice.

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This is what I ended up buying: https://www.maperformance.com/produc...rcooler-tr1235

This is my buddy's install on the same one: http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f213/p...14/index2.html
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Is this water to air inercooler to small ? It measures 5x8. I want to keep my AC . Any other ideas ?
The billet 7875 you have is 1000 crank hp worth of turbo, that's way undersized for the turbo capacity. If you fast forward in the thread, tiresmokinv8 makes like 750 wheel with that treadstone, with cast precision.
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The billet 7875 you have is 1000 crank hp worth of turbo, that's way undersized for the turbo capacity. If you fast forward in the thread, tiresmokinv8 makes like 750 wheel with that treadstone, with cast precision.
I like the idea of that innercooler, I wonder if I can make it work on a 1st Gen .. also what would I do for the grill ? I guess the inner cooler will be the grill?
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I like the idea of that innercooler, I wonder if I can make it work on a 1st Gen .. also what would I do for the grill ? I guess the inner cooler will be the grill?
I've seen that done, there's a local guy with a big cx intercooler frenched into his grill. Might want to check out Barry's build, though... http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f213/s...49/index4.html

and 'ohcrapitsdave' did a couple with ac and a/w intercoolers, but bigger ones. check out frozenboost.com
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Damn Cookmaster I saw your truck.. That's sweet!!!
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I think I want to run a set up like this , I believe this is a Mishimoto intercooler , I wonder what size is it .

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I think I want to run a set up like this , I believe this is a Mishimoto intercooler , I wonder what size is it .
That's just like the local guy has. Check out Viren's intercooler, it's on sale for Christmas. http://www.vsracing.net/catalog/prod...oducts_id=1344

That would go good with your turbo.
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I just looked through some of your pictures on photobucket. Looks like you do nice quality work. I love the attention to details. Looking forward to seeing this build come together.

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You guys have been a ton of help
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Got the 4l80e build today .. shift kit with Racing clutch.. hopefully it will be plenty strong.
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What parts did you use in it specifically? Did you use the HD-2?

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Honestly I'm not sure , I know it has a shift kit and racing red racing clutches im sure is not top of the line but hopefully a little better then factory
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I am guessing the manifolds fit because this is a Blazer, however, I don't know for sure, because I don't know if the first gen Blazers have the engine sitting higher, like the second gens? Who can verify?

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Honestly I'm not sure , I know it has a shift kit and racing red racing clutches im sure is not top of the line but hopefully a little better then factory
Actually the factory ones are better due to utilizing thicker steels. The only place I put more clutches than factory was in the direct drum where I put 6 factory clutches instead of 5. I just used .077" steels from the forward clutch pack. The direct is the most common failure but this can be remedied buy doing the dual feed mod. There are different ways to do it. The HD2 kit allows one to do it without taking the transmission appart. Since I have a trans brake from a vendor on ls1tech and was rebuilding anyway I had to do it the other way.

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Turbo got here ! Wating for my 3200 stall converter and flywheel to start this !!
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Maybe we should change the forum to where your must post pics, and words are optional. LOL
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Lol ok here you go ... yea my bad
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So I got my JGS 60mm wastegate, funny how this wastegate is just as much as my turbo. $500 bucks!!!
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thats why i stuck with vs racing all around. thats crazy
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thats why i stuck with vs racing all around. thats crazy
Well your truck is no joke I saw your YouTube videos.. so VS Racing is more then good enough.
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thanks man. i have always ran cheap wg and bov's. so i will continue on with this build lol
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I am glad you have done that Barry. I have considered doing so because of you, but a Chinese turbo won't blow up a motor, like a hanging wastegate, so I still have a hard time going cheap on a wastegate. I can see the bov, again, not going to hang a window in the block if it doesn't work, but to me, I just can't pull the trigger on a cheap WG so I get it ogoz23!

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its all good man. i have overboost built into my ms3 pro so that helps. as long as we all get to play in the turbo fun thats all that matters
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I think I've put this enegine in and out about 7 times.. I think this is my final time .. I didn't account that the 4l80e is so much bigger .. I had to build a custom crossmember because I had to move it back like 6 inches .. I also had to hammer the transmission túnel to make room for the transmission cooler lines.
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I think I've put this enegine in and out about 7 times.. I think this is my final time .. I didn't account that the 4l80e is so much bigger .. I had to build a custom crossmember because I had to move it back like 6 inches .. I also had to hammer the transmission túnel to make room for the transmission cooler lines.
might want to hammer the firewall around the drivers foot, too. mines real close to get that bolt out just above the dowl pin. I think I might even drill a big ass hole there and plug it to reach through with a socket.
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its all good man. i have overboost built into my ms3 pro so that helps. as long as we all get to play in the turbo fun thats all that matters
That sure would be a nice feature! How does that work? Does it use a solenoid or just cut spark or something along those lines? Obviously, a factory ecm doesn't have all that cool shit, but us broke mofo's can't have everything. LOL

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I think I've put this enegine in and out about 7 times.. I think this is my final time .. I didn't account that the 4l80e is so much bigger .. I had to build a custom crossmember because I had to move it back like 6 inches .. I also had to hammer the transmission túnel to make room for the transmission cooler lines.
Curious why you didn't use the 90* banjo fittings? It sure does give a LOT more room. I will be doing the 80E swap here soon too, I can't afford to build another 60E just to break it.

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That sure would be a nice feature! How does that work? Does it use a solenoid or just cut spark or something along those lines? Obviously, a factory ecm doesn't have all that cool shit, but us broke mofo's can't have everything. LOL

yeah you can do it a few ways. i believe i have mine set to kill boost and spark. you can do ms3 pro from my buddy shannon taylor for about 1350 for a plug and play setup. i despise hptunes and all the credits bs and plus having boost control and everything built into the pro its not all that much more by the time you buy hptuners and a good elec boost controller.

it is a good chunk of change but well worth the money. trust me i feel ya on the money. i have been slowly upgrading mine over the last 5 years. i have a ex wife and 3 kids and work for best buy so i am no big baller i promise
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yeah you can do it a few ways. i believe i have mine set to kill boost and spark. you can do ms3 pro from my buddy shannon taylor for about 1350 for a plug and play setup. i despise hptunes and all the credits bs and plus having boost control and everything built into the pro its not all that much more by the time you buy hptuners and a good elec boost controller.

it is a good chunk of change but well worth the money. trust me i feel ya on the money. i have been slowly upgrading mine over the last 5 years. i have a ex wife and 3 kids and work for best buy so i am no big baller i promise
If I get ms3 pro do I need to get a new harness ? I just bought my standalone harness
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Yes. MS3 pro has it's own harness, and if you want to use that 4l80E with MS3, you need to trans controller also. I think thats another $500. I looked at swapping my setup over when I met Barry down at LS Fest. I may at some point, but for now, I am staying with my harness and my HP Tuners since I already have it, and it works.

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yeah ms3 pro has a plug and play harness. i believe the micro to run the trans is 350ish. i ran a mvb setup in my 80e
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