AVS slammed by AIM in new MT

FLGatorsRule · 09-16-2008, 11:06 AM

wow this is drama... Rusty, you can have my name on SSM, i dont get on there anymore

DJD, did you get a denominator bag yet?? I'm REALLY lookin forward to that

***DJDAudio*** · 09-16-2008, 11:31 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by FLGatorsRule

wow this is drama... Rusty, you can have my name on SSM, i dont get on there anymore

DJD, did you get a denominator bag yet?? I'm REALLY lookin forward to that

He does not have the Bags avalable yet

FLGatorsRule · 09-16-2008, 11:37 AM

wow..... i was thinkin you would've already had it and i jus missed the thread....

he must still be tryin to find ways where he can save money in the production of the bags yet still charge the same as he was

camberbrandt · 09-16-2008, 05:51 PM

Rusty, ive unbanned you to reply to Joes recent reply about you.

KEEP IT CLEAN. If your mature I wont have a reason to remove it.

***droppedss*** · 09-16-2008, 05:58 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by joe morrow on SSM

The operative word with Rusty is "crazy" I have never even spent 2 minutes around him at AIM because I have not been to the office for a full year now.

WOW! That is NOT how a business is run. It seems to go back and forth and back and forth. I mean if all he sees is emails, what can really be done??

<Rusty> · 09-16-2008, 07:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by camberbrandt

Rusty, ive unbanned you to reply to Joes recent reply about you.

KEEP IT CLEAN. If your mature I wont have a reason to remove it.

...not unbanned? cant get on the site so... I guess I'll just check it later.

1/4milecrazy · 09-16-2008, 07:11 PM

Did rusty even post? i missed it typing my reply, hopefully it does not get deleted

<Rusty> · 09-16-2008, 07:13 PM

nah, i cant get on.
could you copy his post for me?

***droppedss*** · 09-16-2008, 07:19 PM

It was all deleted.

He basically said it was a closed case and that he hadnt been to the office or seen you there. something along those lines.

<Rusty> · 09-16-2008, 07:23 PM

so lemme get this right, joe said something about the situation,
I was told that I was "unbanned" but really wasnt
and couldnt respond,
then they took his post down?

nice?

***droppedss*** · 09-16-2008, 07:24 PM

there was some discussion in chat in regards to the situation and whether or not it should be kept private between IM's and emails or the like. It went back and forth between brandt and mike (alexander) in a few posts. I continued working and checked back in on it and it was cleaned up and some posts removed. I kinda took it as he made you sound silly.

<Rusty> · 09-16-2008, 07:27 PM

well thanks for your take on it...
I still find it odd.

1/4milecrazy · 09-16-2008, 07:34 PM

from what i remember he said that crazy sums you up in one word, you have small guy complex and argue with anyone who will listen, so he took you out to dinner on a rolls, what does that have to do with anything, he never dealt with you for more than 2 minutes yet he has not been too AIM in about a year. there may have been more but that is what i remember

<Rusty> · 09-16-2008, 07:36 PM

comedy.

1/4milecrazy · 09-16-2008, 07:45 PM

also inthat post he said thathe interviewed you and took you out to dinner to decline your application. then said you were only there for like 6 days.

Brandt, in all due respect, it does seem as though you are taking the side of Joe and AIM. i agree on the AIM SUCKS and all that BS but letting people discuss their experiences in public and letting joe reply is what this is all about, whether them people are old customers, employees or competitors, they should all get a chance. if it is kept to email it can all be edited before posting, posts can only be edited by mods, as well as the replies.

1/4milecrazy · 09-16-2008, 07:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Joe Morrow on SSM

Jeff (AVS) knows NOTHING about the Rusty issue. He simply was an employee that lasted 6 days and sent down the road. Any businessman knows that disgruntled employees talk trash. If Rusty was so unhappy with our products, then why did he have a full airbagit.com decal spread across his vehicle.

post he just made ill try to keep up on them

<Rusty> · 09-16-2008, 07:53 PM

AVS Jeff, DJDAudio and a handfull of others have read my whole story.
it's pretty long. ha.
but yeah, sounds like he's just being Joe.

1/4milecrazy · 09-16-2008, 08:01 PM

btw is he fuckin retarded? every paragraph he writes ends with "thank you, Joe Morrow". thank you, Joe Morrow. thank you, Joe Morrow. thank you, Joe Morrow.

Rusty, you still reading the thread over there

<Rusty> · 09-16-2008, 08:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1/4milecrazy

btw is he fuckin retarded? every paragraph he writes ends with "thank you, Joe Morrow". thank you, Joe Morrow. thank you, Joe Morrow. thank you, Joe Morrow.

Rusty, you still reading the thread over there

nope, i still can get on. I never got to read anything since i got banned yesterday.

I refreshed my browser, deleted cookies... no SSM

but I'm going out, wont be back till late.

so let him babble on from babylon.

thanks guys.

~Rusty

1/4milecrazy · 09-16-2008, 08:19 PM

they IP banned you then, anyway i posted over there. i challenged him to let DJD do some testing and he accepted, as long as Doug stays neutral.

here is his reply with my quote:

FROM JOE MORROW: I AM PASTING QUARTERMILE CRAZY POST BELOW and answering at the bottom>

Edited: 9/16/2008 4:58:14 PM by quartermilecrazy
Time for me to add my .02, first off let me tell everyone i have had past experinces with AIM and their products. that was years ago,its over, i am not getting into it.

first question Joe: Do you enjoy knocking our entire country and our worth ethics? considering the people that you are trying to "reach out to" all work in the US.

Question #2: can you explain this? Directly from your add it says "when small companies cannot compete,they stoop to low tactics, calling other companies junk... This is B.S." and in the same article, same page, it says "WHAT IS CLUB PRICING??? Go aheadand call ___... I promise you anyone can get "CLUB PRICING"; it is justanother scam to get you to buy their product It is like the word "SALE". since when is any product not on sale.....

.....HOW ABOUT JUST FAIR LOW PRICING and dispence with all the "CLUB" B.S."
Now to me it looks like you are doing exactly what you knocked other companies for doing, knocking their business.

also, same page, "WHEN COMPANIES COMPETE U-WIN ___ & ___ & others , sell this kit for much more, pretending their kit is better. ____ bags are great (ifyou want a stiff/rough ride)but our bags are full 600psi test with a baby smooth ride. if you want to hop and dont care about the ride buy ___ bags. WE GARUNTEE every single part without limit as to time against any defect. We will beat the advertised price on any product ___ or ___ sells. If they try to convince you ours is a cheaper kit then i suggest you investigate yourself. When competitors cannot compete they stoop to bad mouthing the competing product, which is childish and poor business......We have been in business for 22 years and we will be here to service our products" again, you are doing exactly what you are claiming them of doing, bashing the other company, yet you call them childish and accuse them of doing poor business when you do the same thing.

Question #3: You claim that ___ has took pictures from your add and used them as their own, is it not true that you have done the same thing using pictures from ____________ adds? Again knocking another company for doing the same thing you are doing.

You claim there is no 35% restocking fee, yet directly from the bottom of YOUR add it says "Prices subject to change without notice. Not responsible for typo errors. No returns without PRIOR authorization. Short & damaged must be reported within 24hrs. Refunds exclude ship charges. Subject to 35% restocking charges."

If you claim to sell products that are equal or better than the compititors why dont you and the competitors send products to an individual to do independant product testing? I know for a fact that _______ and ___ has already sent products to Doug Dehaven for testing, why dont you do the same thing? I personally would love to see one of your compressors go up against a _____ for fill times and reliability testing.

**i removed all other company names so that this is a AIM only post**

QUESTION #1
I am not knocking the entire country. What I am saying is that China Goods are a reality. Hiding that from the consumer is deceitful and shady business. I am also saying that there is an element in our Society that does not have a good work ethic. I did not say your were one of them.

QUESTION #2
I will stand by my statement on CLUB PRICING anyone can get it from any quadrant of our commercial world.

QUESTION 3
Yes, I admitted it already, I should not have stooped to their tactics

QUESTION 4
Now you are talking. An independent site called aimreviews.com will be live in a few days. It has been started by Tyler Hargrave criminaltactic@yahoo.com and I have never met the man, nor talked to him on the phone. I will put up any of my product to Doug De haven, PROVIDED he is a neutral party and that would have to be proven to me.

Your email clearly shows your alliance with ___ and ___ so I do not see you as an objective unbiased person, so prove it to me.

Your posting is constructive as far as I am concerned, it just shows too much anger.

Regards
Joe Morrow

**Range Rover Driver** · 09-16-2008, 08:26 PM

Regarding the first post: What a crock of poo. That is all that John is saying.

I have already stated that he would help Doug with this. We are still "waiting" for AIM's products to become available to do the testing and to post the testing/reviews. Ahem

Prime · 09-16-2008, 09:59 PM

I was going to post over there about my bad experience with AIM almost 12 years ago and that nothing he could ever do now would redeem him in my eyes, but I decided it was not worth the effort since they would just delete it anyways.

Quote: Originally Posted by 1/4milecrazy

QUESTION 4
Now you are talking. An independent site called aimreviews.com will be live in a few days.

So the site is called aimreviews.com and it is paid for by one of Joes many craptacular companies, and it is going to be unbiased? Riiiiiight.
i can not wait till doug gets his hands on a AIM bag.

**Range Rover Driver** · 09-16-2008, 10:21 PM

Just FYI

aimreviews.com is owned by aol

Originally registered in 2004.

Registrant:
AOL LLC
22000 AOL Way
Dulles, VA 20166
US

Updated Date: 23-Mar-2007
Creation Date: 22-Mar-2004
Expiration Date: 22-Mar-2009

Registrar...............: AOL LLC

Administrative Contact:
AOL Domain Administration
AOL LLC
22000 AOL Way
Dulles, VA 20166
US
Tel. +1.7032654670
Email: domains@aol.net

Technical Contact:
AOL Domain Administration
AOL LLC
22000 AOL Way
Dulles, VA 20166
US
Tel. +1.7032654670
Email: domains@aol.net

Domain servers:
dns-01.ns.aol.com
64.12.51.132
dns-02.ns.aol.com
205.188.157.232
dns-06.ns.aol.com
149.174.54.153
dns-07.ns.aol.com
64.236.1.107

AIMreview.com is owned by a person that does not want to be known.

PSYKO_Inc · 09-16-2008, 10:43 PM

Perhaps a certain someone doesn't want his name attached to the ownership of aimreview.com? You'd think he'd at least get his own domain name right

1/4milecrazy · 09-16-2008, 10:49 PM

someone is hiding, i am gonna check it out as soon as its up

**Range Rover Driver** · 09-16-2008, 11:30 PM

John Forgot to add for aimreview.

Creation date: 08 Jun 2008 13:13:00
Expiration date: 05 Jun 2009 03:30:00

He said that he does not think that it was regoed for the purpose. BUT, it may have been. I show that a lot of his domains are hosted all over the place, which makes no sense. BUT, making sense is not something people do.

Prime · 09-16-2008, 11:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Range Rover Driver

AIMreview.com is owned by a person that does not want to be known.

hmmmmm..... Wonder who that is?

1/4milecrazy · 09-16-2008, 11:32 PM

any matches to aim reviews and another AIM site?

**Range Rover Driver** · 09-16-2008, 11:47 PM

Aim Reviews is owned by AOL.

Aim review does not show any matches yet, but he went back to sleep and I do not know what I am looking at. I will relay this to him when he wakes up.

***DJDAudio*** · 09-16-2008, 11:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Range Rover Driver

Aim Reviews is owned by AOL.

Aim review does not show any matches yet, but he went back to sleep and I do not know what I am looking at. I will relay this to him when he wakes up.

I found the same information haha

Also Hargrave is the last name of his Wife Linda and his Son.. Think about it

1/4milecrazy · 09-16-2008, 11:59 PM

i just though of this, is it owned by AOL because ofthe fact that AOL owns AIM instant messenger? they probably own a shit load of AIM titled sites to protect them from others buying a domain they might use later.

I know for a fact that our club owns SK.com, subsonickustom.com, subsonickustomz.com .org and .net and others just so no one else can get them.

maybe that web site address is just a bunch of bullshit

1/4milecrazy · 09-17-2008, 12:00 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by DJDAudio

I found the same information haha

Also Hargrave is the last name of his Wife Linda and his Son.. Think about it

you should email him about getting some of his products for testing, or call him out on SSM

***AVS_JEFF*** · 09-17-2008, 12:18 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by DJDAudio

I found the same information haha

Also Hargrave is the last name of his Wife Linda and his Son.. Think about it

Joe's response:

"But Hargrave is a very common American name..."

***DJDAudio*** · 09-17-2008, 12:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_JEFF

Joe's response:

"But Hargrave is a very common American name..."

Results 1 - 10 of about 2,050,000 for hargrave

***DJDAudio*** · 09-17-2008, 12:30 AM

The E-mail given Spawns from California I know he has a son there, just need to find his details. He does do web site coding. and just sold a Garmen on Craigslist lol

***DJDAudio*** · 09-17-2008, 12:32 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1/4milecrazy

you should email him about getting some of his products for testing, or call him out on SSM

I know Joe,

If I test a product of his and it is not favorable to him he will nail me with slander and say I biased the Results or damaged the product.

He does not play fair and you can take that to the bank.

:EDIT: and I have called him out on SSM and it has rapidity been deleted.

***AVS_JEFF*** · 09-17-2008, 12:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by DJDAudio

I know Joe,

If I test a product of his and it is not favorable to him he will nail me with slander and say I biased the Results or damaged the product.

He does not play fair and you can take that to the bank.

:EDIT: and I have called him out on SSM and it has rapidity been deleted.

1/4milecrazy · 09-17-2008, 01:03 AM

Post on SSM

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Originally posted by quartermilecrazy

So Joe how doyou feel about Doug Dehaven doing indepedent testing on your products, he is a very well trusted and respected name in the S-10 community, and we all know how many s-10s there are in the mintruckin world

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

OK,one more... I have no problem whatsoever so long as Doug has an independent agenda. Doug?

I am waiting for you will all due respect. What products do you wish to see? I encourage any objective reviews for the world to see.

Thank you, and Good Night,

Joe Morrow

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

seems like he is calling you out now Doug

SavageKreations · 09-17-2008, 05:22 AM

Hi, well im here to just clear the whole website stuff up. Im the owner of ReviewsForAIM.com , the site that joe was talking about. Im no way related to joe, even tho i have the same last name of i guess his wife, as said above. Im not one of his employes or a freind im just a random guy who sent joe an email after seeing the SSM and S10forum threads.. I was asking him about his control arms, and then some how i had an idea to make a site to review his products to show pepole how good/bad they are.. i dont know why he posted my whole name up or personal email.. i like to keep my personal stuff private.. as you can see if u do a whois lookup its private.. im not on AIM's side or anyone elses side, my truck has AIM, AVS, SD, Cando, parts.. The site is up but not very content rich at this time, i need to purchase some products from them so i can start doing test and reviews on them. All of my reviews will be 100% honest, and include some test with full vid's and pictures. If you guys got any questions just reply back here or emial me at contact@reviewsforaim.com
mod's if posting the site name is a no then please edit my post and remove, thanks

TwizTid · 09-17-2008, 05:25 AM

***DJDAudio*** · 09-17-2008, 06:24 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ReviewsForAIM

Hi, well im here to just clear the whole website stuff up. Im the owner of ReviewsForAIM.com , the site that joe was talking about. Im no way related to joe, even tho i have the same last name of i guess his wife, as said above. Im not one of his employes or a freind im just a random guy who sent joe an email after seeing the SSM and S10forum threads.. I was asking him about his control arms, and then some how i had an idea to make a site to review his products to show pepole how good/bad they are.. i dont know why he posted my whole name up or personal email.. i like to keep my personal stuff private.. as you can see if u do a whois lookup its private.. im not on AIM's side or anyone elses side, my truck has AIM, AVS, SD, Cando, parts.. The site is up but not very content rich at this time, i need to purchase some products from them so i can start doing test and reviews on them. All of my reviews will be 100% honest, and include some test with full vid's and pictures. If you guys got any questions just reply back here or emial me at contact@reviewsforaim.com
mod's if posting the site name is a no then please edit my post and remove, thanks

My guess this is you then?

SavageKreations · 09-17-2008, 06:43 AM

yeah that me man...pretty old pic tho.. thanks for letting me know my myspace isnt set on private lol... like i said man im no way affilated with AIM.. i also would like joe to let u do some testing

***DJDAudio*** · 09-17-2008, 06:56 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ReviewsForAIM

yeah that me man...pretty old pic tho.. thanks for letting me know my myspace isnt set on private lol... like i said man im no way affilated with AIM.. i also would like joe to let u do some testing

You have to understand our past here.

Every time Joe gets into any heat 'Magic' people pop out of the woodwork to prove him well. Only to find time and time again they have relations to him or his company.

So when we see a new face come out of the Blue talking praise we are all 100% scepticle

I am not calling you out per say I guess what I am getting at is. We all need reassurance that you are who you say you are and will due Fair un Biased testing.

The Names 'Yuri' 'BlazinAsian' and 'Bagginit' come to mind

Joe Does have Family in Fresno so you never know you may be a distant relative

Again time will Tell

Outlawz24 · 09-17-2008, 07:08 AM

wheres that damn popcorn this is getting interesting!

03SinityS10 · 09-17-2008, 12:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ReviewsForAIM

Hi, well im here to just clear the whole website stuff up. Im the owner of ReviewsForAIM.com , the site that joe was talking about. Im no way related to joe, even tho i have the same last name of i guess his wife, as said above. Im not one of his employes or a freind im just a random guy who sent joe an email after seeing the SSM and S10forum threads.. I was asking him about his control arms, and then some how i had an idea to make a site to review his products to show pepole how good/bad they are.. i dont know why he posted my whole name up or personal email.. i like to keep my personal stuff private.. as you can see if u do a whois lookup its private.. im not on AIM's side or anyone elses side, my truck has AIM, AVS, SD, Cando, parts.. The site is up but not very content rich at this time, i need to purchase some products from them so i can start doing test and reviews on them. All of my reviews will be 100% honest, and include some test with full vid's and pictures. If you guys got any questions just reply back here or emial me at contact@reviewsforaim.com
mod's if posting the site name is a no then please edit my post and remove, thanks

How can this site even be considered as fair and unbiased information? The name of the site is ReviewsForAIM.com. If it was something like minitruckingreview.com, or productreview.com, I would be more likely to believe it was unbiased. But come on. ReviewsForAIM.com isn't even trying .

Visit www.03SinityS10isgreat.com. It's unbiased information about me, by me, for me. lol

***sdime98*** · 09-17-2008, 12:41 PM

Sorry, 'www.03sinitys10isgreat.com' does not exist or is not available.

***droppedss*** · 09-17-2008, 12:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by sdime98

Sorry, 'www.03sinitys10isgreat.com' does not have access available to the vajay-jay.

OUCH!

1/4milecrazy · 09-17-2008, 01:55 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ReviewsForAIM

like i said man im no way affilated with AIM..

prove it, post up some pics of your truck. tell us about you, is this the only forum you are on? someone on here has to know your truck from seeing it around.

what parts did you buy from SD? pics?

seems pretty fishy that you are gonna be doing reviews for him, you have the same last name, but you are not offiliated with AIM in no way shape or form.

Have any copies of the email you sent him or his replies?

SavageKreations · 09-17-2008, 02:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1/4milecrazy

prove it, post up some pics of your truck. tell us about you, is this the only forum you are on? someone on here has to know your truck from seeing it around.

what parts did you buy from SD? pics?

seems pretty fishy that you are gonna be doing reviews for him, you have the same last name, but you are not offiliated with AIM in no way shape or form.

Have any copies of the email you sent him or his replies?

Ok umm my name is tyler. my truck is a 99 gmc sonoma, bagged all the way around cando 6 link in rear, 8 1/2 danz valves, 1 5gal tank, im running a york 210 EDC, got an arc 9 switch box, conitech 2600's all around, to many parts to list... i bought my air mamnagmet at AVS from kris she should remember me cuz i had her price match SD.com for me

. currently doing a bodydrop going 3.5" trad.. heres some pic's
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...ageID=17263310At Dangerzone 08

Notice the AVS switchbox and the conitech 2600...

As you can see my truck is torn apart in my lil garage, if i was joe's son i would have him just give me money to have a shop do it..

Progress..

jeffery_843 · 09-17-2008, 02:28 PM

you cant look at your pics unless on your friend list

09-16-2008, 11:06 AM	#351
FLGatorsRule Upgraded to Mazdas Age: 23 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,079 Location: Millington, TN User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT wow this is drama... Rusty, you can have my name on SSM, i dont get on there anymore DJD, did you get a denominator bag yet?? I'm REALLY lookin forward to that
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09-16-2008, 11:37 AM	#353
FLGatorsRule Upgraded to Mazdas Age: 23 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,079 Location: Millington, TN User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT wow..... i was thinkin you would've already had it and i jus missed the thread.... he must still be tryin to find ways where he can save money in the production of the bags yet still charge the same as he was
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09-16-2008, 05:51 PM	#354
camberbrandt Photoshop Guru Age: 30 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,384 Location: Schwenksville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Rusty, ive unbanned you to reply to Joes recent reply about you. KEEP IT CLEAN. If your mature I wont have a reason to remove it.
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09-16-2008, 07:02 PM	#356
<Rusty> Registered User Age: 34 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by camberbrandt Rusty, ive unbanned you to reply to Joes recent reply about you. KEEP IT CLEAN. If your mature I wont have a reason to remove it. ...not unbanned? cant get on the site so... I guess I'll just check it later.
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09-16-2008, 07:11 PM	#357
1/4milecrazy good bye red, it was fun Age: 33 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,873 Location: New Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Did rusty even post? i missed it typing my reply, hopefully it does not get deleted
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09-16-2008, 07:13 PM	#358
<Rusty> Registered User Age: 34 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT nah, i cant get on. could you copy his post for me?
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09-16-2008, 07:23 PM	#360
<Rusty> Registered User Age: 34 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT so lemme get this right, joe said something about the situation, I was told that I was "unbanned" but really wasnt and couldnt respond, then they took his post down? nice?
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09-16-2008, 07:27 PM	#362
<Rusty> Registered User Age: 34 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT well thanks for your take on it... I still find it odd.
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09-16-2008, 07:34 PM	#363
1/4milecrazy good bye red, it was fun Age: 33 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,873 Location: New Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT from what i remember he said that crazy sums you up in one word, you have small guy complex and argue with anyone who will listen, so he took you out to dinner on a rolls, what does that have to do with anything, he never dealt with you for more than 2 minutes yet he has not been too AIM in about a year. there may have been more but that is what i remember
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09-16-2008, 07:36 PM	#364
<Rusty> Registered User Age: 34 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT comedy.
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09-16-2008, 07:45 PM	#365
1/4milecrazy good bye red, it was fun Age: 33 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,873 Location: New Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT also inthat post he said thathe interviewed you and took you out to dinner to decline your application. then said you were only there for like 6 days. Brandt, in all due respect, it does seem as though you are taking the side of Joe and AIM. i agree on the AIM SUCKS and all that BS but letting people discuss their experiences in public and letting joe reply is what this is all about, whether them people are old customers, employees or competitors, they should all get a chance. if it is kept to email it can all be edited before posting, posts can only be edited by mods, as well as the replies.
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09-16-2008, 07:49 PM	#366
1/4milecrazy good bye red, it was fun Age: 33 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,873 Location: New Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by Joe Morrow on SSM Jeff (AVS) knows NOTHING about the Rusty issue. He simply was an employee that lasted 6 days and sent down the road. Any businessman knows that disgruntled employees talk trash. If Rusty was so unhappy with our products, then why did he have a full airbagit.com decal spread across his vehicle. post he just made ill try to keep up on them
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09-16-2008, 07:53 PM	#367
<Rusty> Registered User Age: 34 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT AVS Jeff, DJDAudio and a handfull of others have read my whole story. it's pretty long. ha. but yeah, sounds like he's just being Joe.
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09-16-2008, 08:01 PM	#368
1/4milecrazy good bye red, it was fun Age: 33 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,873 Location: New Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT btw is he fuckin retarded? every paragraph he writes ends with "thank you, Joe Morrow". thank you, Joe Morrow. thank you, Joe Morrow. thank you, Joe Morrow. Rusty, you still reading the thread over there
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09-16-2008, 08:04 PM	#369
<Rusty> Registered User Age: 34 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by 1/4milecrazy btw is he fuckin retarded? every paragraph he writes ends with "thank you, Joe Morrow". thank you, Joe Morrow. thank you, Joe Morrow. thank you, Joe Morrow. Rusty, you still reading the thread over there nope, i still can get on. I never got to read anything since i got banned yesterday. I refreshed my browser, deleted cookies... no SSM but I'm going out, wont be back till late. so let him babble on from babylon. thanks guys. ~Rusty Last edited by <Rusty> : 09-16-2008 at 08:06 PM.
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09-16-2008, 08:19 PM	#370
1/4milecrazy good bye red, it was fun Age: 33 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,873 Location: New Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT they IP banned you then, anyway i posted over there. i challenged him to let DJD do some testing and he accepted, as long as Doug stays neutral. here is his reply with my quote: FROM JOE MORROW: I AM PASTING QUARTERMILE CRAZY POST BELOW and answering at the bottom> Edited: 9/16/2008 4:58:14 PM by quartermilecrazy Time for me to add my .02, first off let me tell everyone i have had past experinces with AIM and their products. that was years ago,its over, i am not getting into it. first question Joe: Do you enjoy knocking our entire country and our worth ethics? considering the people that you are trying to "reach out to" all work in the US. Question #2: can you explain this? Directly from your add it says "when small companies cannot compete,they stoop to low tactics, calling other companies junk... This is B.S." and in the same article, same page, it says "WHAT IS CLUB PRICING??? Go aheadand call ___... I promise you anyone can get "CLUB PRICING"; it is justanother scam to get you to buy their product It is like the word "SALE". since when is any product not on sale..... .....HOW ABOUT JUST FAIR LOW PRICING and dispence with all the "CLUB" B.S." Now to me it looks like you are doing exactly what you knocked other companies for doing, knocking their business. also, same page, "WHEN COMPANIES COMPETE U-WIN ___ & ___ & others , sell this kit for much more, pretending their kit is better. ____ bags are great (ifyou want a stiff/rough ride)but our bags are full 600psi test with a baby smooth ride. if you want to hop and dont care about the ride buy ___ bags. WE GARUNTEE every single part without limit as to time against any defect. We will beat the advertised price on any product ___ or ___ sells. If they try to convince you ours is a cheaper kit then i suggest you investigate yourself. When competitors cannot compete they stoop to bad mouthing the competing product, which is childish and poor business......We have been in business for 22 years and we will be here to service our products" again, you are doing exactly what you are claiming them of doing, bashing the other company, yet you call them childish and accuse them of doing poor business when you do the same thing. Question #3: You claim that ___ has took pictures from your add and used them as their own, is it not true that you have done the same thing using pictures from ____________ adds? Again knocking another company for doing the same thing you are doing. You claim there is no 35% restocking fee, yet directly from the bottom of YOUR add it says "Prices subject to change without notice. Not responsible for typo errors. No returns without PRIOR authorization. Short & damaged must be reported within 24hrs. Refunds exclude ship charges. Subject to 35% restocking charges." If you claim to sell products that are equal or better than the compititors why dont you and the competitors send products to an individual to do independant product testing? I know for a fact that _______ and ___ has already sent products to Doug Dehaven for testing, why dont you do the same thing? I personally would love to see one of your compressors go up against a _____ for fill times and reliability testing. i removed all other company names so that this is a AIM only post QUESTION #1 I am not knocking the entire country. What I am saying is that China Goods are a reality. Hiding that from the consumer is deceitful and shady business. I am also saying that there is an element in our Society that does not have a good work ethic. I did not say your were one of them. QUESTION #2 I will stand by my statement on CLUB PRICING anyone can get it from any quadrant of our commercial world. QUESTION 3 Yes, I admitted it already, I should not have stooped to their tactics QUESTION 4 Now you are talking. An independent site called aimreviews.com will be live in a few days. It has been started by Tyler Hargrave criminaltactic@yahoo.com and I have never met the man, nor talked to him on the phone. I will put up any of my product to Doug De haven, PROVIDED he is a neutral party and that would have to be proven to me. Your email clearly shows your alliance with ___ and ___ so I do not see you as an objective unbiased person, so prove it to me. Your posting is constructive as far as I am concerned, it just shows too much anger. Regards Joe Morrow
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09-16-2008, 08:26 PM	#371
Range Rover Driver Admin's Bitch Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 76 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Regarding the first post: What a crock of poo. That is all that John is saying. I have already stated that he would help Doug with this. We are still "waiting" for AIM's products to become available to do the testing and to post the testing/reviews. Ahem
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09-16-2008, 09:59 PM	#372
Prime Ol' Sparky Age: 32 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 886 Location: Flatwoods User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT I was going to post over there about my bad experience with AIM almost 12 years ago and that nothing he could ever do now would redeem him in my eyes, but I decided it was not worth the effort since they would just delete it anyways. Quote: Originally Posted by 1/4milecrazy QUESTION 4 Now you are talking. An independent site called aimreviews.com will be live in a few days. So the site is called aimreviews.com and it is paid for by one of Joes many craptacular companies, and it is going to be unbiased? Riiiiiight. i can not wait till doug gets his hands on a AIM bag.
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09-16-2008, 10:21 PM	#373
Range Rover Driver Admin's Bitch Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 76 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Just FYI aimreviews.com is owned by aol Originally registered in 2004. Registrant: AOL LLC 22000 AOL Way Dulles, VA 20166 US Updated Date: 23-Mar-2007 Creation Date: 22-Mar-2004 Expiration Date: 22-Mar-2009 Registrar...............: AOL LLC Administrative Contact: AOL Domain Administration AOL LLC 22000 AOL Way Dulles, VA 20166 US Tel. +1.7032654670 Email: domains@aol.net Technical Contact: AOL Domain Administration AOL LLC 22000 AOL Way Dulles, VA 20166 US Tel. +1.7032654670 Email: domains@aol.net Domain servers: dns-01.ns.aol.com 64.12.51.132 dns-02.ns.aol.com 205.188.157.232 dns-06.ns.aol.com 149.174.54.153 dns-07.ns.aol.com 64.236.1.107 AIMreview.com is owned by a person that does not want to be known.
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09-16-2008, 10:43 PM	#374
PSYKO_Inc I hate my truck Age: 27 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,477 Location: Fairfield, CA User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Perhaps a certain someone doesn't want his name attached to the ownership of aimreview.com? You'd think he'd at least get his own domain name right
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09-16-2008, 10:49 PM	#375
1/4milecrazy good bye red, it was fun Age: 33 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,873 Location: New Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT someone is hiding, i am gonna check it out as soon as its up
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09-16-2008, 11:30 PM	#376
Range Rover Driver Admin's Bitch Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 76 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT John Forgot to add for aimreview. Creation date: 08 Jun 2008 13:13:00 Expiration date: 05 Jun 2009 03:30:00 He said that he does not think that it was regoed for the purpose. BUT, it may have been. I show that a lot of his domains are hosted all over the place, which makes no sense. BUT, making sense is not something people do.
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09-16-2008, 11:30 PM	#377
Prime Ol' Sparky Age: 32 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 886 Location: Flatwoods User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by Range Rover Driver AIMreview.com is owned by a person that does not want to be known. hmmmmm..... Wonder who that is?
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09-16-2008, 11:32 PM	#378
1/4milecrazy good bye red, it was fun Age: 33 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,873 Location: New Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT any matches to aim reviews and another AIM site?
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09-16-2008, 11:47 PM	#379
Range Rover Driver Admin's Bitch Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 76 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Aim Reviews is owned by AOL. Aim review does not show any matches yet, but he went back to sleep and I do not know what I am looking at. I will relay this to him when he wakes up.
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09-16-2008, 11:59 PM	#381
1/4milecrazy good bye red, it was fun Age: 33 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,873 Location: New Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT i just though of this, is it owned by AOL because ofthe fact that AOL owns AIM instant messenger? they probably own a shit load of AIM titled sites to protect them from others buying a domain they might use later. I know for a fact that our club owns SK.com, subsonickustom.com, subsonickustomz.com .org and .net and others just so no one else can get them. maybe that web site address is just a bunch of bullshit
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09-17-2008, 12:00 AM	#382
1/4milecrazy good bye red, it was fun Age: 33 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,873 Location: New Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by DJDAudio I found the same information haha Also Hargrave is the last name of his Wife Linda and his Son.. Think about it you should email him about getting some of his products for testing, or call him out on SSM
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09-17-2008, 12:18 AM	#383
*AVS_JEFF* *JACOBY* Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 563 Location: Central, Cali User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by DJDAudio I found the same information haha Also Hargrave is the last name of his Wife Linda and his Son.. Think about it Joe's response: "But Hargrave is a very common American name..."
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09-17-2008, 12:44 AM	#387
*AVS_JEFF* *JACOBY* Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 563 Location: Central, Cali User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by DJDAudio I know Joe, If I test a product of his and it is not favorable to him he will nail me with slander and say I biased the Results or damaged the product. He does not play fair and you can take that to the bank. :EDIT: and I have called him out on SSM and it has rapidity been deleted.
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09-17-2008, 01:03 AM	#388
1/4milecrazy good bye red, it was fun Age: 33 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,873 Location: New Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Post on SSM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by quartermilecrazy So Joe how doyou feel about Doug Dehaven doing indepedent testing on your products, he is a very well trusted and respected name in the S-10 community, and we all know how many s-10s there are in the mintruckin world -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OK,one more... I have no problem whatsoever so long as Doug has an independent agenda. Doug? I am waiting for you will all due respect. What products do you wish to see? I encourage any objective reviews for the world to see. Thank you, and Good Night, Joe Morrow -------------------------------------------------------------------------- seems like he is calling you out now Doug
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09-17-2008, 05:22 AM	#389
SavageKreations Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 203 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Hi, well im here to just clear the whole website stuff up. Im the owner of ReviewsForAIM.com , the site that joe was talking about. Im no way related to joe, even tho i have the same last name of i guess his wife, as said above. Im not one of his employes or a freind im just a random guy who sent joe an email after seeing the SSM and S10forum threads.. I was asking him about his control arms, and then some how i had an idea to make a site to review his products to show pepole how good/bad they are.. i dont know why he posted my whole name up or personal email.. i like to keep my personal stuff private.. as you can see if u do a whois lookup its private.. im not on AIM's side or anyone elses side, my truck has AIM, AVS, SD, Cando, parts.. The site is up but not very content rich at this time, i need to purchase some products from them so i can start doing test and reviews on them. All of my reviews will be 100% honest, and include some test with full vid's and pictures. If you guys got any questions just reply back here or emial me at contact@reviewsforaim.com mod's if posting the site name is a no then please edit my post and remove, thanks Last edited by SavageKreations : 09-17-2008 at 05:24 AM.
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09-17-2008, 05:25 AM	#390
TwizTid Registered User Age: 29 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,450 Location: from Chicago,IL now Gilbert,AZ User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT
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09-17-2008, 06:43 AM	#392
SavageKreations Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 203 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT yeah that me man...pretty old pic tho.. thanks for letting me know my myspace isnt set on private lol... like i said man im no way affilated with AIM.. i also would like joe to let u do some testing
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09-17-2008, 07:08 AM	#394
Outlawz24 Drifting Nomad Age: 26 Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 398 Location: Lloydminster Sask Canada User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT wheres that damn popcorn this is getting interesting!
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09-17-2008, 12:01 PM	#395
03SinityS10 Registered User Age: 29 Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 81 Location: Las Vegas User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by ReviewsForAIM Hi, well im here to just clear the whole website stuff up. Im the owner of ReviewsForAIM.com , the site that joe was talking about. Im no way related to joe, even tho i have the same last name of i guess his wife, as said above. Im not one of his employes or a freind im just a random guy who sent joe an email after seeing the SSM and S10forum threads.. I was asking him about his control arms, and then some how i had an idea to make a site to review his products to show pepole how good/bad they are.. i dont know why he posted my whole name up or personal email.. i like to keep my personal stuff private.. as you can see if u do a whois lookup its private.. im not on AIM's side or anyone elses side, my truck has AIM, AVS, SD, Cando, parts.. The site is up but not very content rich at this time, i need to purchase some products from them so i can start doing test and reviews on them. All of my reviews will be 100% honest, and include some test with full vid's and pictures. If you guys got any questions just reply back here or emial me at contact@reviewsforaim.com mod's if posting the site name is a no then please edit my post and remove, thanks How can this site even be considered as fair and unbiased information? The name of the site is ReviewsForAIM.com. If it was something like minitruckingreview.com, or productreview.com, I would be more likely to believe it was unbiased. But come on. ReviewsForAIM.com isn't even trying . Visit www.03SinityS10isgreat.com. It's unbiased information about me, by me, for me. lol
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