AVS slammed by AIM in new MT

[AVS_JEFF]

Quote: Originally Posted by dirttysouth

Did any one notice that in all of the Chassis Tech ads in this months Truckin'...

Yep! Also, check the pricing that he says that we sell our products at. They don't match any of our current or old prices. Lots of inconsistencies.

[dirttysouth]

Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_JEFF

Yep! Also, check the pricing that he says that we sell our products at. They don't match any of our current or old prices. Lots of inconsistencies.

In one ad I noticed that it said the price of one of AVS's items was $500, the Chassis Tech price was $259.....since when is 50% of $500=$259

.............I guess I should be careful...Joe may be watchin.....don't want him to start dissin Waylayed

[2Xtreme]

dont know if this has been post but a friend showed me this...

http://mazdabscene.com/forums/viewto...820d0c3c8ed913

funny "shit"...lol

[FLGatorsRule]

um.... look at post 294 and 297???

[ZQ8 Blazer]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2Xtreme

dont know if this has been post but a friend showed me this...

http://mazdabscene.com/forums/viewto...820d0c3c8ed913

funny "shit"...lol

HEY HEY HEY! Did you guys know that some guy whipped his ass with the AIM ad? OMG!

[jeffery_843]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer

HEY HEY HEY! Did you guys know that some guy whipped his ass with the AIM ad? OMG!

are you saying that he used it like a "bedroom toy" and whipped himself in front of some one? i'm just being a smart ass. you know, whipped and wiped


edit: i'm not even sure if i spelled it right

[ZQ8 Blazer]

lol yeah after I posted that I thought I spelled the wrong thing, but though fudge it.

[DJDAudio]

Quote: Originally Posted by dirttysouth

Did any one notice that in all of the Chassis Tech ads in this months Truckin' it has "600PSI Lifetime Warranty" plastered on every bag ad......yet if you flip over a couple of pages to the airspringsdirect.com ad it has the same bags (with the same model numbers) list at 580psi BURST, 480psi BURST, and 425psi BURST, if there burst rates are rated like most then that would put the operating range at 140PSI-190PSI....good thing they come with a lifetime warranty....lol...also soemthing else I found interesting is that the Magazine ad prices doesn't match the website prices......take for example the pressure switches, the ad list the prices like this:
110/135-$12
160/180-$14
0/200 adjustabe-$12

.....yet if you go to the website you see this:

http://airbagit.com/advanced_search_...1&inc_subcat=1

Just thought I would share my discoveries with everyone....lol

The legal stuff states it is only 'Lifetime Warranty' until it is installed

Yea that makes sense haha

[ZQ8 Blazer]

Yeah it'll last a lifetime sitting on a shelf

[my2ks10xtreme]

Thats great someone made a motivational poster out of it, I can see this hitting every forum lol

[ZQ8 Blazer]

AIM'S NEW CLAIM ABOUT THEIR DENOMINATORS:
don't know if anyone has seen this or not, but in the new ST (has a red Tahoe on the cover) The ad states that the denominator is:

Quote:

Same Chinese Factory, but improved quality & engineering over the AirLift Dominator

I know it's already been discussed that they are made in the same factory, but this is the 1st I've seen him claim that his are better.

[ezmouse]

funny thing he has you looking at the adds now that is what he wants i just by pass them he is like a pollitition slamming every one else who cares he sucks so does his product

[ZQ8 Blazer]

uhhhhhh........ ok..... I'm looking at his ads because they're funny and a bunch of BS. What HE wants is for people to believe the BS and buy from him.

[jeffery_843]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer

AIM'S NEW CLAIM ABOUT THEIR DENOMINATORS:
don't know if anyone has seen this or not, but in the new ST (has a red Tahoe on the cover) The ad states that the denominator is:


I know it's already been discussed that they are made in the same factory, but this is the 1st I've seen him claim that his are better.

i didn't know that airlift said they were made in the same factory. i know avs said that the modules(i think) for their lights were made over seas, but TO THEIR STRICT SPECIFICATIONS

[xxosiris9xx]

i like having a nice lil insight on the whole China shit. In my market (sunglasses) we sell product made in China, but its again made to our specifications with our quality control and better materials...compare that to walgreens or the cheap shit like american eagle or urban outfitters sells made in china and its a huge difference...but to someone like joe morrow that fact gets overlooked (till now i guess, but i highly doubt his is higher quality if its still so cheap)

[AVS_JEFF]

Quote: Originally Posted by xxosiris9xx

i like having a nice lil insight on the whole China shit. In my market (sunglasses) we sell product made in China, but its again made to our specifications with our quality control and better materials...compare that to walgreens or the cheap shit like american eagle or urban outfitters sells made in china and its a huge difference...but to someone like joe morrow that fact gets overlooked (till now i guess, but i highly doubt his is higher quality if its still so cheap)

We are the same way. While there are plenty of US companies that copy other companies products or have their own products copied, such as us, there is only a handful that share the mentality that we have. The mentality that I am speaking of consists of our priorities. These are the priorities of AVS when we have a product that is made overseas:

#1. QUALITY (cosmetics, fitment, safety, etc)
#2. RELIABILITY (we strive to keep our defective rate per product under 1%. Then the factory must also stand behind us on warranty issues otherwise we won't do buinsess)
#3. DEVELOPMENT/PRODUCTION TIME (we DO NOT like having to back order a product, so we make sure that the factory can keep up with our demands)
#4. PRICE (it must be cheaper than we do now, if not, we must then be able to add extra features to that product. This way, we can turn around and offer you, the consumer, that part for a less expensive price or offer you an updated product with added features for the same current price.

Now the other companies that I'm talking about, that don't have these same priorities, guess what is the #1 priority on their list? PRICE!!! That is why you will usually end up with a P.O.S. product. We might make less money, but we will definitely have more return customers to make up for it!

[djleighk15]

When I see the Aim Adds with the AVS logo it makes me think you AVS everytime....Gives you more publicity then anything i think....I made me go check out your site since I havent checked it out in a while....By the way love the new switch keychain....SICK

[xxosiris9xx]

Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_JEFF

We are the same way. While there are plenty of US companies that copy other companies products or have their own products copied, such as us, there is only a handful that share the mentality that we have. The mentality that I am speaking of consists of our priorities. These are the priorities of AVS when we have a product that is made overseas:

#1. QUALITY (cosmetics, fitment, safety, etc)
#2. RELIABILITY (we strive to keep our defective rate per product under 1%. Then the factory must also stand behind us on warranty issues otherwise we won't do buinsess)
#3. DEVELOPMENT/PRODUCTION TIME (we DO NOT like having to back order a product, so we make sure that the factory can keep up with our demands)
#4. PRICE (it must be cheaper than we do now, if not, we must then be able to add extra features to that product. This way, we can turn around and offer you, the consumer, that part for a less expensive price or offer you an updated product with added features for the same current price.

Now the other companies that I'm talking about, that don't have these same priorities, guess what is the #1 priority on their list? PRICE!!! That is why you will usually end up with a P.O.S. product. We might make less money, but we will definitely have more return customers to make up for it!

yup yup...my company i work for is a multi billion dollar a year corporation, which AIM probably cannot ever claim LOL...i still want ppl to come talk shit about my made in china shades so i can fuck their POS fakes up.

[Outlawz24]

Wow...seems like aim just keeps digging itself deeper and deeper into the hole with each action they take...One thing i realized years ago when i was looking into air bagging a dodge i had (didn't get the chance truck got totaled) was if their adds look so freaking cheep..whats the quality like on the actual parts? Another point...joe probably hasn't spent much on ads for a long time since the ones that we all see are the freakin same as ads he had in the mags years ago...only dif is he added a couple items here or there.

[GreenS1098]

wow this is a long article

[droppedss]

Joe is posting and offering help in a thread on SSM.

[<Rusty>]

Quote: Originally Posted by droppedss

Joe is posting and offering help in a thread on SSM.

yup, and I just got "banned" from SSM by Kris
for writing this in that thread....

one more tid bit for JOE MORROW.

I'd like to thank you for trying to ruin my families life by hiring me, and having me relocate to Arizona only to find out that you had "set me up" by making a foolish desicion to forward my complaint letter (that got me hired) to your sales staff. which led them to judge me instead of using me... I was fired/quit and was forced to start all over. I'm now over $20,000 in debt BECAUSE OF YOU!!!!!!
If you hadn't of done this I wouldn't have had the opportunity to meet Jeff Jacoby and his other business partners to share with them my story (and other details) and how you actually run your company, from the way it looks to the employees that despise you, but smile in fear because they all have boat payments...your true nature has been shown in great detail.

I REALLY LIKED YOU JOE! I used to say "LONG LIVE AIM" I TRIED HARD TO GET OVER THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE LOST TOUCH WITH THE PEOPLE THAT PAID FOR YOUR ROLLS ROYCE (THAT I DROVE YOU TO DINNER IN?) YOU SAID: "I HATE MINITRUCKERS, AND I HATE THE MINITRUCKER MENTALITY"

well I'm a minitrucker and this is my mentality, whats more? this is a MINITRUCKER forum. and to my family of minitruckers who may be decieved by joe (or his hired forum helper) "DONT BE A FOOL, BEING FOOLED BY A FOOL"
__________________________________________________ _____
JOE, I'll never leave the forums! IM HERE TO BRING BALANCE TO THE FORCE. you can resolve my problem by reimbersing me and my wife the $20,000 that was spent! And joe, I WARN YOU, be VERY VERY carful how you respond to this post.... because im talking about my life not a spindal buddy.
__________________________________________________ _________


LONG LIVE AVS!

RUSTY


guys (gals) dont be fooled by this guy....

[DJDAudio]

Quote: Originally Posted by <Rusty>

yup, and I just got "banned" from SSM by Kris
for writing this in that thread....

one more tid bit for JOE MORROW.

I'd like to thank you for trying to ruin my families life by hiring me, and having me relocate to Arizona only to find out that you had "set me up" by making a foolish desicion to forward my complaint letter (that got me hired) to your sales staff. which led them to judge me instead of using me... I was fired/quit and was forced to start all over. I'm now over $20,000 in debt BECAUSE OF YOU!!!!!!
If you hadn't of done this I wouldn't have had the opportunity to meet Jeff Jacoby and his other business partners to share with them my story (and other details) and how you actually run your company, from the way it looks to the employees that despise you, but smile in fear because they all have boat payments...your true nature has been shown in great detail.

I REALLY LIKED YOU JOE! I used to say "LONG LIVE AIM" I TRIED HARD TO GET OVER THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE LOST TOUCH WITH THE PEOPLE THAT PAID FOR YOUR ROLLS ROYCE (THAT I DROVE YOU TO DINNER IN?) YOU SAID: "I HATE MINITRUCKERS, AND I HATE THE MINITRUCKER MENTALITY"

well I'm a minitrucker and this is my mentality, whats more? this is a MINITRUCKER forum. and to my family of minitruckers who may be decieved by joe (or his hired forum helper) "DONT BE A FOOL, BEING FOOLED BY A FOOL"
__________________________________________________ _____
JOE, I'll never leave the forums! IM HERE TO BRING BALANCE TO THE FORCE. you can resolve my problem by reimbersing me and my wife the $20,000 that was spent! And joe, I WARN YOU, be VERY VERY carful how you respond to this post.... because im talking about my life not a spindal buddy.
__________________________________________________ _________


LONG LIVE AVS!

RUSTY


guys (gals) dont be fooled by this guy....

And Mine was also Deleted!

WTF. fare and balanced yea.. not when Joe is around.

[<Rusty>]

I didnt swear or call him any names? So I'm confused?

I find it odd that all of a sudden, the people with truth to share are getting banned or having there posts deleted? did Kris sell SSM? to whom I wonder?
hmmmm?

o-well, "All things done in darkness shall be revealed in the light"

P.S.
"Doug I got to read your post before it was removed, haha!
screw those cats.

[DJDAudio]

Quote: Originally Posted by <Rusty>

I didnt swear or call him any names? So I'm confused?

I find it odd that all of a sudden, the people with truth to share are getting banned or having there posts deleted? did Kris sell SSM? to whom I wonder?
hmmmm?

o-well, "All things done in darkness shall be revealed in the light"

P.S.
"Doug I got to read your post before it was removed, haha!
screw those cats.

I feel bad for you man, you have a story that needs told!

And now there is a total of 5 posted deleted from page 19 haha.

[eric s]

Quote: Originally Posted by <Rusty>

yup, and I just got "banned" from SSM by Kris

that sucks but were glad to have ya here!

i'm waiting on joe to respond to my problems. he said first thing tomarrow morning, so we will see

[<Rusty>]

ERIC-S = True Minitrucker... thanks for the welcome!
I've actually been lurking for years here, but I have a Datsun,ha!

Doug, Dont feel bad for me broseph?
I'm healthy, alive and cant complain!

feel bad for AIM industries.

[camberbrandt]

Rusty your post was removed as it was OFF TOPIC that thread clearly in the rules state its for customer and parts.

Your thread was 100% completely about your moving to work for him and being screwed. I feel for you I really do. Its wrong, your story should be told. But it doesn't belong in that thread. Additionaly we are cleaning up drama on SSM. SSM is no longer going to be the place to "call out someone". That deal is between you and him, not you/him/ssm

Let me also say that if comes around that Joe is playing games and not making good on all of this stuff he claims to be, we will pull it. We are only letting it go on the hope some people will be made whole.

I am not going to argue you with you guys if you belive it to be right or not. Also whoever is posting the same email over and over, its still on there, it doesn't have to be posted over and over, 1 copy is fine.

[DJDAudio]

Posted online on SSM by Joe Morrow

http://streetsource.com/forum/topic.... pic_id=105491

Here is the posted E-mail,

Quote: Originally Posted by Joe Morrow

From: tjjardas@gmail.com [mailto:tjjardas@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Taylor
Jardas
Sent: 2008-09-15 13:11
To: Joe M
Subject: Re: been screwed by AVS

Anyways, I have been given the run around by the AVS company on a product i
had ordered from them recently. It was a digital air gauge kit that they
sell, and lable it as a "Genuine AVS product" . when i recieved the product,
i started to notice alot of similarities to the kit that you sell. It
appears to be the same kit, but with the buttons flipped to the bottom, and
the face plate with no holes in it an an AVS logo on it. The sticker on the
top of the unit says "Made in Tiwain" . I personally find this very
missleading, because for it being a genunie AVS product, it sure has alot of
similar features and looks and everything as yours, and if they are just
modifying one of your kits and selling it as theirs, that is complete
bullshit, and a direct LIE.

the senders i got with my kit are blue and silver aluminum ones. Ive done
some research on them, and have found out they are produced in china
someware.

I dont want you to think that i want you to send me a kit to keep, i only
want you to send me a display so that i can do some side by side
photographing of the two for visual proof of my claims. I intend to send you
back the display after photographing. I have allready purchased a different
digital air gauge kit from another company and it works fine for me, i just
have my AVS one sitting here for a while untill i sell it, so i dont need
the parts again, I am just wanting to try and prove to everyone that AVS is
simply importing parts from someware else, that are EXACTLY the same as
everyone elses, but seling them for more money.



i fully intend on posting my findings on s10forum, as well as some others,
but i want to do it fully at one time, with side by side photos.

its no big deal if your not interested, im sure you have better stuff to be
doing, i was just interested in exposing AVS for what they are.

thanks for the info, your time was appriceated.

thanks

Taylor

Here is the E-mail as Taylor sent it to Joe,

Quote: Originally Posted by Taylor

From: tjjardas@gmail.com [mailto:tjjardas@gmail.com]
Sent: 2008-09-15 13:11
To: Joe M
Subject: Re: Part Questions...


I recently bought a digital air gauge kit from AVS. I had issues with my
kit, along with an mildly unpleasant experience with them. I am having
issues with my kit again, im not going to bother dealing with AVS with the
situation, because of my past experieces with them.

What im wondering is if you would beable to send me a display unit to one of
YOUR digital air gauge kits, so that i can compare the differences to see if
my stuff will plug into it. Im not asking you to give me anything, i will
gladly pay for it, and ship it back to you, if i can get a full refund. If
your not interested in doing that, would you possibly beable to send me
photographs of the backside of your kit, and the plug in harness, so that i
could check to see if my plug and stuff is the same, and i will just order
one from you.

The reason im curious is that, i got some information from someone else that
the kits were very similar, and if you look at the physical properties of
the kits, they do infact look VERY similar. The buttons on your kit are
exposed, and the buttons on the AVS kit are not. The display is layed out
in the exact same manner.

If its anything to you, i would gladly share my findings with you.


Taylor

[ssm-webmaster]

Rusty, i IM'd you and asked you to stop posting that same post OVER and OVER. I think what you said needs to be addressed but your highjacking a topic. I can't force rules in one place but not another.. so anyways, sorry bro..

[xxosiris9xx]

Quote: Originally Posted by DJDAudio

Posted online on SSM by Joe Morrow

http://streetsource.com/forum/topic.... pic_id=105491

Here is the posted E-mail,




Here is the E-mail as Taylor sent it to Joe,

so Joes still up to dirty tricks and hasnt really come clean eh?

[<Rusty>]

I posted it 3 times (not over and over?)
only because I couldnt find it, directly after posting it. and wanted Joe to address it.


and in my opinion,its not off topic?
I have a problem that I wanted resolved? I guess AVS Jeff's post was off topic too? but it remained.
saul good though...

I got your frequency.


ps

how can I read your I.M. if.... IM FUCKING BANNED?

[camberbrandt]

Jeff is a compeitor that was referenced in the thread by joe previous some we let him reply. Simple. Also Rusty the ims where sent way before your ban.

3 times is 2 to many. Sorry Rusty, ive posted to joe publicly saying he has issues to address with you. If you dont contact you or post here or on ssm in 48hrs contact me ok? brandt@graphicdisorder.com

[<Rusty>]

Quote: Originally Posted by camberbrandt

Jeff is a compeitor that was referenced in the thread by joe previous some we let him reply. Simple. Also Rusty the ims where sent way before your ban.

3 times is 2 to many. Sorry Rusty, ive posted to joe publicly saying he has issues to address with you. If you dont contact you or post here or on ssm in 48hrs contact me ok? brandt@graphicdisorder.com

well, I have never saw your message. my bad.

And I only figured out that they were being deleted AFTER being banned?
so, I couldnt figure out what was going on? I just reposted it?

SO, it would be dope if you unbanned me
I used up all my "Free posts" anyway, so I'll be forced to read with grit teeth.

JOE will never admit to any wrong doing, so asking him to do so is pointless. (but thanx)

I can tell you what he will say before he even write it...

"Rusty was treated fairly and made his own choices to quit AIM bla,bla,bla"

Do you actually think he's gonna say
"gee I am a dick?, here Rusty "mybad" here is your 20 G's back"
no.

So I wrote my story out to warn people like you.

if he had made things right a few months ago, we'd be talking about my datsun not Joe.

but after this whole "geting banned" thing im done. you guys will see me later at a show,I'm sure.

I'm not mad at Joe, I'm mad that I lost my judge of character before I got hired. It was my own fault for not reading into the post more? I gave him the benifit of the doubt, and got jacked. haha!

Peace, love and light

Rusty Crates

[camberbrandt]

Quote: Originally Posted by <Rusty>

well, I have never saw your message. my bad.

And I only figured out that they were being deleted AFTER being banned?
so, I couldnt figure out what was going on? I just reposted it?

SO, it would be dope if you unbanned me
I used up all my "Free posts" anyway, so I'll be forced to read with grit teeth.

JOE will never admit to any wrong doing, so asking him to do so is pointless. (but thanx)

I can tell you what he will say before he even write it...

"Rusty was treated fairly and made his own choices to quit AIM bla,bla,bla"

Do you actually think he's gonna say
"gee I am a dick?, here Rusty "mybad" here is your 20 G's back"
no.

So I wrote my story out to warn people like you.

if he had made things right a few months ago, we'd be talking about my datsun not Joe.

but after this whole "geting banned" thing im done. you guys will see me later at a show,I'm sure.

I'm not mad at Joe, I'm mad that I lost my judge of character before I got hired. It was my own fault for not reading into the post more? I gave him the benifit of the doubt, and got jacked. haha!

Peace, love and light

Rusty Crates

I can understand your interest in posting it. However it simply doesn't apply to that thread under the rules which we let it exsist to start with. That doesn't mean I dont think your right. If that happend to you thats horrible, but honestly most of us are not seaking employment with Joe. So it will almost relates to nobody. Sure it goes to his characture, but again off topic in that thread, seriously.

Sue him man, thats a lot of money. If your right you will win.

[DJDAudio]

Quote: Originally Posted by camberbrandt

I can understand your interest in posting it. However it simply doesn't apply to that thread under the rules which we let it exsist to start with. That doesn't mean I dont think your right. If that happend to you thats horrible, but honestly most of us are not seaking employment with Joe. So it will almost relates to nobody. Sure it goes to his characture, but again off topic in that thread, seriously.

Sue him man, thats a lot of money. If your right you will win.

sad part with no money Joe will always win even if you are right

BTW see you are from PA!

[camberbrandt]

Ya DJ maybe. However I bet you could find many lawyers to take it on.

I dunno if Rusty tried, I would have gave it a shot over 20k.

[<Rusty>]

sue him. funny.

and for the record: he offered me a position after I bought some products and was unhappy with them....Its a long jacked up story.

I thought I could actually fix AIM, I was wrong and it was a very expensive lesson.

dont unbanned me, Its better for my health not to read that shit anyway,ha.

~Rusty

[camberbrandt]

Well Rusty, "cant" never gets anything done. I would sue over 20k. If you have a foot to stand on you should be able to win. Good luck either way.

[The Master]

Quote: Originally Posted by DJDAudio

And Mine was also Deleted!

WTF. fare and balanced yea.. not when Joe is around.

You are never censored on IWasTake or on here Doug.

[The Master]

Quote: Originally Posted by ssm-webmaster

Rusty, i IM'd you and asked you to stop posting that same post OVER and OVER. I think what you said needs to be addressed but your highjacking a topic. I can't force rules in one place but not another.. so anyways, sorry bro..

So I have to ask. How much did you get for an advertising payment from Joe.

Just curious as it seems a lot of your site has now been changed over to AIM is good and we can prove it....btw here are some costs on the parts we provide...thanks and check us out at www.xxxxxxxxxx.com....Joe.

Not to be a dick, but god damn man did you sell out?

[The Master]

Rusty,

I am sure you are aware of iwastaken.com

Someone sent me some messages. I am more than willing to host your story on the site. Make it as detailed and concise as possible and I will post it. Just email it to myself or DJD and we can handle placing it up.

BTW. Spelling does not matter as I can get my wife to edit it for you as I am just as bad.

Doug, Jeff and anyone else in the emails originally. I am game guys.

John

[camberbrandt]

Quote: Originally Posted by The Master

So I have to ask. How much did you get for an advertising payment from Joe.

Just curious as it seems a lot of your site has now been changed over to AIM is good and we can prove it....btw here are some costs on the parts we provide...thanks and check us out at www.xxxxxxxxxx.com....Joe.

Not to be a dick, but god damn man did you sell out?

SSM has taken zero money from AIM. Our interest is to try to get some members made whole. Simple as that. Some are posting saying they are being made whole already. So in our eyes its worth it. You are free to run your site as you like. I see both sides of the arguement, and I agree and dissagree with both sides. Maybe everyone wont get helped if it turns into him blowing off poeple we will shut it down, believe that. For right now though we feel its worth the shot to help some members out.

Once again, zero money has exchanged hands.

[The Master]

If you say so.

I find it interesting that censorship of anti aim shit happens now, the site allowing " people to be made whole " months if not years later. But alas, it is whomevers site and not mine. See it as you wish, but advertising is just that and if you can not see it then so be it.

Say la Ve

I wont go on.. lol

I'm out for my extended hiatus.

Cheers.

[camberbrandt]

Quote: Originally Posted by DJDAudio

Posted online on SSM by Joe Morrow

http://streetsource.com/forum/topic.... pic_id=105491

Here is the posted E-mail,




Here is the E-mail as Taylor sent it to Joe,

DJ so your saying joe edited the original email correct? Im dealing with about 204585040 issues so I cant read everything word for word. If its the case that should be posted on SSM and I will leave it. But please dont post it 1048305485490 times.... just once.

[camberbrandt]

Quote: Originally Posted by The Master

If you say so.

I find it interesting that censorship of anti aim shit happens now, the site allowing " people to be made whole " months if not years later. But alas, it is whomevers site and not mine. See it as you wish, but advertising is just that and if you can not see it then so be it.

Say la Ve

I wont go on.. lol

I'm out for my extended hiatus.

Cheers.

Again i said I see both sides. You bring up nothing that hasnt' already crossed our minds. However you dont agree its worth something if some people get some parts/refunds/credits/etc?

Thats the goal simple as that. We have taken no money from Joe for anything. Posting/advertising, nothing. That thread is full of his companies mistakes someone woudl be a fool to buy from him seeing all that.

[DJDAudio]

Quote: Originally Posted by camberbrandt

DJ so your saying joe edited the original email correct? Im dealing with about 204585040 issues so I cant read everything word for word. If its the case that should be posted on SSM and I will leave it. But please dont post it 1048305485490 times.... just once.

Correct

I sent you a PM.

Thank you

[DJDAudio]

Quote: Originally Posted by The Master

Rusty,

I am sure you are aware of iwastaken.com

Someone sent me some messages. I am more than willing to host your story on the site. Make it as detailed and concise as possible and I will post it. Just email it to myself or DJD and we can handle placing it up.

BTW. Spelling does not matter as I can get my wife to edit it for you as I am just as bad.

Doug, Jeff and anyone else in the emails originally. I am game guys.

John

I will be happy to help out.

[camberbrandt]

I reposted the emails, I will get him to reply so please nobody repost it 04854035030 times. Your just giving me a reason to have to remove it then.

[DJDAudio]

Quote: Originally Posted by camberbrandt

I reposted the emails, I will get him to reply so please nobody repost it 04854035030 times. Your just giving me a reason to have to remove it then.