AVS slammed by AIM in new MT

***droppedss*** · 08-21-2008, 10:37 AM

The simple message to Joe:

Joe, dont try to f*ck the customer, in the end they'll f*ck you. WE are the customer, and WE drive sales, not you. You need a reality check.

sparks017 · 08-21-2008, 10:57 AM

What a paethic waste of life joe morrow is. All of this defamination that he is doing just shows that sooner or later shaim will come to an end. Hopefully sooner than later.

Geat · 08-21-2008, 01:40 PM

better yet, give those shirts out for free after you spend x amount of dollars, like you do with the other deal. I got my AVS digital gauges the other day...Kris told me wrong she said I would have them on Monday and I got them on Saturday (before monday)?!?!?! wtf is up with that?

bahhaha

~~AVS_KRIS~~ · 08-21-2008, 01:48 PM

Sir, I am truly sorry you received your gauges earlier than expected LOL

***droppedss*** · 08-21-2008, 01:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_KRIS

Sir, I am truly sorry you received your gauges earlier than expected LOL

ya, darn you and your crazy darn good customer service! hahahahaha

TuckaBlaze · 08-21-2008, 04:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Geat

better yet, give those shirts out for free after you spend x amount of dollars, like you do with the other deal. I got my AVS digital gauges the other day...Kris told me wrong she said I would have them on Monday and I got them on Saturday (before monday)?!?!?! wtf is up with that? bahhaha

Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_KRIS

Sir, I am truly sorry you received your gauges earlier than expected LOL

Quote: Originally Posted by droppedss

ya, darn you and your crazy darn good customer service! hahahahaha

I don't know about you, but that's funny right there.

xloud9t5gmcsuvx · 08-21-2008, 04:19 PM

I want a shirt. Even though I haven't bought off AVS per say, I know they are good from Word of mouth and would have no problems or worries bying from them. I would never consider buying from SHAIM.

JC98S10 · 08-21-2008, 04:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Noremac

x2
i would much rather keep the money in this country..

X3

I'm actually looking into buying a set right now. Not to happy with the ones that came with my rollpan.

bubbagt57 · 08-21-2008, 04:29 PM

what he is doing is throwing shit and seeing what sticks its sad to see someone who had no better bussiness tatics than to talk trash about other companies its basiclly the equal of politics of becomeing the president...

neo71665 · 08-21-2008, 06:04 PM

I want one of those shirts

TuckaBlaze · 08-21-2008, 06:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_KRIS

Sir, I am truly sorry you received your gauges earlier than expected LOL

Get those shirts ready i want one!

Draggin88 · 08-21-2008, 06:40 PM

I want a shirt!

Sunkin1 · 08-21-2008, 07:20 PM

Well my design is up for grabs if AVS wants to use it....pm me for the larger version......how many orders will it take to get printed?also... im gonna be making a new "support avs" banners....this bs has to stop...joes gotta learn the lesson....

Quote: Originally Posted by droppedss

dont try to f*ck the customer, in the end they'll f*ck you. WE are the customer, and WE drive sales, not you. You need a reality check.

Sunkin1 · 08-21-2008, 08:03 PM

~~AVS_KRIS~~ · 08-21-2008, 08:04 PM

~~AVS_KRIS~~ · 08-21-2008, 08:06 PM

I will have em made by my own company...how much you guys willing to pay for the shirts?

TuckaBlaze · 08-21-2008, 08:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_KRIS

I will have em made by my own company...how much you guys willing to pay for the shirts?

2 dalla!

~~AVS_KRIS~~ · 08-21-2008, 08:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by TuckaBlaze

2 dalla!

I wish I could do it for that price

Draggin88 · 08-21-2008, 08:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_KRIS

I will have em made by my own company...how much you guys willing to pay for the shirts?

20 bones shipped!

Noremac · 08-21-2008, 08:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by TuckaBlaze

2 dalla!

tree dolla!!!

lol, i buy one too!! kris, make up a support avs, kill shAIM sig and i will use it lmao..

as far as morrow.. fck him...

i am gonna get a security system from you guys sooner or later..

~~AVS_KRIS~~ · 08-21-2008, 08:23 PM

It would be very unprofessional for me to have a banner talking about a competitor.

But the shirts on the other hand are harmless.

$15 shipped?

neo71665 · 08-21-2008, 08:33 PM

$15, sold.

I want a 1X and a 12 months

Sunkin1 · 08-21-2008, 09:57 PM

Email sent!

Noremac · 08-21-2008, 10:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_KRIS

It would be very unprofessional for me to have a banner talking about a competitor.

But the shirts on the other hand are harmless.

$15 shipped?

i want a 2x!!!!

***sdime98*** · 08-21-2008, 10:14 PM

any black shirts?

Sunkin1 · 08-21-2008, 10:47 PM

Not sure if they want to use black or not...but heres what it might look like....

Tuteuk · 08-21-2008, 11:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_KRIS

It would be very unprofessional for me to have a banner talking about a competitor.

But the shirts on the other hand are harmless.

$15 shipped?

what about us Canadian cows...

.....I might want 2...or maybe 4..if the price is right...moooo

Tuteuk · 08-21-2008, 11:26 PM

For those people who do not have a MT subscription....

This is part of the AD in Question

If this is in bad taste or bad whatever please feel free to remove it, but I have posted it so we can all see the lies!!!!!

AVdime · 08-21-2008, 11:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DJDAudio

Wow,

It always holds true when someone has struggled to stay afloat they reach a point they can no longer tread water on there own so they reach out and grab on to to anything large close buy to help pull them up, in turn they pull that thing down. This is so the mark of a failing company grabbing whatever floats by and trying to take it under simply to bring them selves back up above.

My Family deals with Failing business on a regular basis, it will only get worse from here.

I have a hard time believing that he is having a hrad time staying afloat. He has almost all his products made in china. And china specializes in large quantity runs. By looking at alot oh his products i can tell they are made large run pruduction style.
I also frequent alot of hotrod,import car, import truck, fullsize forums all over the world. And alot of these guys run parts made by one of joes companies. Its sad fact, but he builds parts above and beyond the minitruck market. And those are the people buying the stuff, and those "scenes" are usually alot bigger than minitrucks and usually spend alot more money on builds.

***DJDAudio*** · 08-21-2008, 11:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tuteuk

For those people who do not have a MT subscription....

This is part of the AD in Question

If this is in bad taste or bad whatever please feel free to remove it, but I have posted it so we can all see the lies!!!!!

better quality and work ethic in China? he had me laughing so hard my eyes watered haha wow

Notice he was Manufactured by Chassis Tech? LIE hahaha
Why does he not put Made in china?

What a damn hypocrite

Sunkin1 · 08-21-2008, 11:52 PM

Quote:

I have a hard time believing that he is having a hrad time staying afloat. He has almost all his products made in china. And china specializes in large quantity runs. By looking at alot oh his products i can tell they are made large run pruduction style.
I also frequent alot of hotrod,import car, import truck, fullsize forums all over the world. And alot of these guys run parts made by one of joes companies. Its sad fact, but he builds parts above and beyond the minitruck market. And those are the people buying the stuff, and those "scenes" are usually alot bigger than minitrucks and usually spend alot more money on builds.

Very good points.....but now....do you think its fair that AVS is put on the spot because joe and all of his companies dont like the way AVS runs thier business?...and if he is doing so well in the other markets why make a big stink in this one....I think what things are coming down to is that there is no need to take it out on somebody else if your company isnt doing so well....and when the word LIE gets tossed around.....that would piss anybody off...like I said....AVS shouldnt have to explain thier way of business and its unfortunate that things have to be handled like this instead of just friendly competition....its hard not to think that things arent going good for him when he has to take things to this level thats all........

dimerunner88 · 08-22-2008, 12:00 AM

i would buy one of the shirts

AVdime · 08-22-2008, 12:02 AM

im not defending AIM or anything like that. Im just pointing out the big picture. That sure AIM is scum in the minitruck market, but not known that way in all the other markets yet.
i have no idea the method behind his madness, tho.
Also I havent purchased shit from AVS yet so i have no clue how good they really are

jeffery_843 · 08-22-2008, 12:42 AM

i would like to see doug get a dominator and a denominator bag and cut them in half and do some testing on every part of the bag and find out just how much of the material is the "exact same". if doug would do some side by side comparisons and testing i would be down to donate a few bucks for stuff to be purchased and doug compensated for his time

***DJDAudio*** · 08-22-2008, 09:06 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by jeffery_843

i would like to see doug get a dominator and a denominator bag and cut them in half and do some testing on every part of the bag and find out just how much of the material is the "exact same". if doug would do some side by side comparisons and testing i would be down to donate a few bucks for stuff to be purchased and doug compensated for his time

Thanks man,

Off the bat I could tell you I would find the Rubber bellow and end caps to be different, the only think similar would be the end crimp design. because as Joe Said they are done on the same or (same style) machine lol

That would be an interesting test though.

I have the Dominator already sectioned so would just need to get a 'China bag' haha

So Joe if you read this, Send me an (air lift copy) and I will test it to see if in fact they are the SAME bag

hahaha

***droppedss*** · 08-22-2008, 09:48 AM

Hey here's a brilliant marketing technique. Lets slam, berate and insult the American population. Good one Sir Idiot. And then, wtf are you? A f*cking political cantidate? Take your "Ratical Tops" and go back to 1986.

Uhhh, it's BEEN brought, you've been emailed, you don't reply, you only speak through your idiot ramblings in magazines. Your way to YELLOW to reply to the real issues at hand. Like oh gee...I dunno...your shitass customer service and your clueless "tech" crew. Which have the combined IQ of a small donkey. Ya, your getting attention, negative attention, and your making your pathetic waste of a company look even worse!

***droppedss*** · 08-22-2008, 10:08 AM

BTW. I want a shirt in black XL. I will gladly pay $15 shipped for one!

Prime · 08-22-2008, 10:48 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_JEFF

The reason for those extra pages is the result of Joe throwing a hissyfit when MiniTruckin did a shop tour for us. Joe gave the poor mag guys hell that they did a shop tour for us instead of him. So this is how they make it up to him. By the way, the editors/photographers of the mags are awesome guys. It's the sales people and corporate big wigs that have their heads up their asses and do whatever it is that Joe wants. It's pretty pathetic. But the cool thing is that you, the consumers, don't fall for their load of crap.

Yeah I agree with you, all the guys I have met from the mags are great. But it is sad that the corporate side makes those decisions and runs those articles. I would not use their plug and play on a red wagon let alone a truck.

BTW if you make the shirt, don't forget about us full sized mini truckers. I'll take a xxl white one, just let me know how much and when they become available.

Draggin88 · 08-22-2008, 10:55 AM

$15 Shipped! I'll Take a large!

Corey@AirLift · 08-22-2008, 11:08 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by DJDAudio

Thanks man,

Off the bat I could tell you I would find the Rubber bellow and end caps to be different, the only think similar would be the end crimp design. because as Joe Said they are done on the same or (same style) machine lol

That would be an interesting test though.

I have the Dominator already sectioned so would just need to get a 'China bag' haha

So Joe if you read this, Send me an (air lift copy) and I will test it to see if in fact they are the SAME bag

hahaha

I will fund the entire test Doug.....

***droppedss*** · 08-22-2008, 11:21 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Corey@AirLift

I will fund the entire test Doug.....

And the plot thickens!

Draggin88 · 08-22-2008, 12:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Corey@AirLift

I will fund the entire test Doug.....

.

~~AVS_KRIS~~ · 08-22-2008, 12:18 PM

oh snaps....Corey speaks! lol

***Ricky*** · 08-22-2008, 12:36 PM

I LOVE COREY!!!!!

***DJDAudio*** · 08-22-2008, 01:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ricky

I LOVE COREY!!!!!

I will shoot you an E-mail

***droppedss*** · 08-22-2008, 01:35 PM

I dont think joe really has an idea how much HE messed up

jeffery_843 · 08-22-2008, 02:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by droppedss

I dont think joe really has an idea how much HE messed up

x2. its one thing to say that their stuff is from china too. i have never read avs or anyone say that that their stuff is 100% made and assembled in the usa. its another thing to make the claim that his bags are the EXACT same, same exact materials, same factory, same machine. the claim he's making would be like him saying that his bag and airlifts bag is the exact same other than the names on them

***sdime98*** · 08-22-2008, 02:28 PM

i wonder why aim never has booths set up at shows? lol.

***droppedss*** · 08-22-2008, 02:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by sdime98

i wonder why aim never has booths set up at shows? lol.

theyd prolly get torn up, yelled at screamed and then torch the booth

2000xcabhooptie · 08-22-2008, 02:34 PM

08-21-2008, 10:57 AM	#52
sparks017 Flat's Where It's At Age: 23 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 433 Location: pittsburgh/frostburg User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT What a paethic waste of life joe morrow is. All of this defamination that he is doing just shows that sooner or later shaim will come to an end. Hopefully sooner than later.
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08-21-2008, 01:40 PM	#53
Geat Registered User Age: 19 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,493 Location: Knoxville, TN User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT better yet, give those shirts out for free after you spend x amount of dollars, like you do with the other deal. I got my AVS digital gauges the other day...Kris told me wrong she said I would have them on Monday and I got them on Saturday (before monday)?!?!?! wtf is up with that? bahhaha
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08-21-2008, 01:48 PM	#54
~~AVS_KRIS~~ Kris Age: 23 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,179 Location: FRESNO,CA User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Sir, I am truly sorry you received your gauges earlier than expected LOL
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08-21-2008, 04:01 PM	#56
TuckaBlaze Stock tires with 5.7 Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,862 Location: Leesville, LA User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by Geat better yet, give those shirts out for free after you spend x amount of dollars, like you do with the other deal. I got my AVS digital gauges the other day...Kris told me wrong she said I would have them on Monday and I got them on Saturday (before monday)?!?!?! wtf is up with that? bahhaha Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_KRIS Sir, I am truly sorry you received your gauges earlier than expected LOL Quote: Originally Posted by droppedss ya, darn you and your crazy darn good customer service! hahahahaha I don't know about you, but that's funny right there.
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08-21-2008, 04:19 PM	#57
xloud9t5gmcsuvx Neighborhood Dragger Age: 22 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,904 Location: Cleveland User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT I want a shirt. Even though I haven't bought off AVS per say, I know they are good from Word of mouth and would have no problems or worries bying from them. I would never consider buying from SHAIM.
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08-21-2008, 04:24 PM	#58
JC98S10 Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 192 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by Noremac x2 i would much rather keep the money in this country.. X3 I'm actually looking into buying a set right now. Not to happy with the ones that came with my rollpan.
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08-21-2008, 04:29 PM	#59
bubbagt57 GAVE his truck to 96super Age: 19 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,241 Location: burtonsville, maryland User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT what he is doing is throwing shit and seeing what sticks its sad to see someone who had no better bussiness tatics than to talk trash about other companies its basiclly the equal of politics of becomeing the president...
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08-21-2008, 06:04 PM	#60
neo71665 4x4 v6 blazer Age: 29 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,842 Location: rison arkansas User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT I want one of those shirts
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08-21-2008, 06:12 PM	#61
TuckaBlaze Stock tires with 5.7 Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,862 Location: Leesville, LA User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_KRIS Sir, I am truly sorry you received your gauges earlier than expected LOL Get those shirts ready i want one!
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08-21-2008, 06:40 PM	#62
Draggin88 405AWDHP Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,877 Location: With your wife! User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT I want a shirt!
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08-21-2008, 07:20 PM	#63
Sunkin1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 84 Location: Canada User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Well my design is up for grabs if AVS wants to use it....pm me for the larger version......how many orders will it take to get printed?also... im gonna be making a new "support avs" banners....this bs has to stop...joes gotta learn the lesson.... Quote: Originally Posted by droppedss *dont try to fck the customer*, in the end they'll fck you. WE are the customer, and WE drive sales, not you. You need a reality check.
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08-21-2008, 08:03 PM	#64
Sunkin1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 84 Location: Canada User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT
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08-21-2008, 08:04 PM	#65
~~AVS_KRIS~~ Kris Age: 23 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,179 Location: FRESNO,CA User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT lol
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08-21-2008, 08:06 PM	#66
~~AVS_KRIS~~ Kris Age: 23 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,179 Location: FRESNO,CA User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT I will have em made by my own company...how much you guys willing to pay for the shirts?
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08-21-2008, 08:13 PM	#67
TuckaBlaze Stock tires with 5.7 Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,862 Location: Leesville, LA User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_KRIS I will have em made by my own company...how much you guys willing to pay for the shirts? 2 dalla!
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08-21-2008, 08:15 PM	#68
~~AVS_KRIS~~ Kris Age: 23 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,179 Location: FRESNO,CA User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by TuckaBlaze 2 dalla! I wish I could do it for that price
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08-21-2008, 08:16 PM	#69
Draggin88 405AWDHP Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,877 Location: With your wife! User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_KRIS I will have em made by my own company...how much you guys willing to pay for the shirts? 20 bones shipped!
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08-21-2008, 08:18 PM	#70
Noremac damned 4banger Age: 20 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5,648 Location: Jonesboro Arkansas User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by TuckaBlaze 2 dalla! tree dolla!!! lol, i buy one too!! kris, make up a support avs, kill shAIM sig and i will use it lmao.. as far as morrow.. fck him... i am gonna get a security system from you guys sooner or later..
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08-21-2008, 08:23 PM	#71
~~AVS_KRIS~~ Kris Age: 23 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,179 Location: FRESNO,CA User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT It would be very unprofessional for me to have a banner talking about a competitor. But the shirts on the other hand are harmless. $15 shipped?
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08-21-2008, 08:33 PM	#72
neo71665 4x4 v6 blazer Age: 29 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,842 Location: rison arkansas User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT $15, sold. I want a 1X and a 12 months
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08-21-2008, 09:57 PM	#73
Sunkin1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 84 Location: Canada User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Email sent!
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08-21-2008, 10:09 PM	#74
Noremac damned 4banger Age: 20 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5,648 Location: Jonesboro Arkansas User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_KRIS It would be very unprofessional for me to have a banner talking about a competitor. But the shirts on the other hand are harmless. $15 shipped? i want a 2x!!!!
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08-21-2008, 10:14 PM	#75
*sdime98* slowly, but surely. Age: 24 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 49,286 Location: Laurel Hill, NC User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT any black shirts?
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08-21-2008, 10:47 PM	#76
Sunkin1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 84 Location: Canada User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Not sure if they want to use black or not...but heres what it might look like....
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08-21-2008, 11:18 PM	#77
Tuteuk Bovine on NOS!! Age: 45 Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,194 Location: Cowtopia Prime User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_KRIS It would be very unprofessional for me to have a banner talking about a competitor. But the shirts on the other hand are harmless. $15 shipped? what about us Canadian cows........I might want 2...or maybe 4..if the price is right...moooo
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08-21-2008, 11:26 PM	#78
Tuteuk Bovine on NOS!! Age: 45 Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,194 Location: Cowtopia Prime User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT For those people who do not have a MT subscription.... This is part of the AD in Question If this is in bad taste or bad whatever please feel free to remove it, but I have posted it so we can all see the lies!!!!!
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08-21-2008, 11:29 PM	#79
AVdime Big Bully Age: 25 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,828 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by DJDAudio Wow, It always holds true when someone has struggled to stay afloat they reach a point they can no longer tread water on there own so they reach out and grab on to to anything large close buy to help pull them up, in turn they pull that thing down. This is so the mark of a failing company grabbing whatever floats by and trying to take it under simply to bring them selves back up above. My Family deals with Failing business on a regular basis, it will only get worse from here. I have a hard time believing that he is having a hrad time staying afloat. He has almost all his products made in china. And china specializes in large quantity runs. By looking at alot oh his products i can tell they are made large run pruduction style. I also frequent alot of hotrod,import car, import truck, fullsize forums all over the world. And alot of these guys run parts made by one of joes companies. Its sad fact, but he builds parts above and beyond the minitruck market. And those are the people buying the stuff, and those "scenes" are usually alot bigger than minitrucks and usually spend alot more money on builds.
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08-21-2008, 11:52 PM	#81
Sunkin1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 84 Location: Canada User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: I have a hard time believing that he is having a hrad time staying afloat. He has almost all his products made in china. And china specializes in large quantity runs. By looking at alot oh his products i can tell they are made large run pruduction style. I also frequent alot of hotrod,import car, import truck, fullsize forums all over the world. And alot of these guys run parts made by one of joes companies. Its sad fact, but he builds parts above and beyond the minitruck market. And those are the people buying the stuff, and those "scenes" are usually alot bigger than minitrucks and usually spend alot more money on builds. Very good points.....but now....do you think its fair that AVS is put on the spot because joe and all of his companies dont like the way AVS runs thier business?...and if he is doing so well in the other markets why make a big stink in this one....I think what things are coming down to is that there is no need to take it out on somebody else if your company isnt doing so well....and when the word LIE gets tossed around.....that would piss anybody off...like I said....AVS shouldnt have to explain thier way of business and its unfortunate that things have to be handled like this instead of just friendly competition....its hard not to think that things arent going good for him when he has to take things to this level thats all........ Last edited by Sunkin1 : 08-21-2008 at 11:55 PM.
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08-22-2008, 12:00 AM	#82
dimerunner88 whore turned lurker Age: 23 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 19,700 Location: Clay City,IN User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT i would buy one of the shirts
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08-22-2008, 12:02 AM	#83
AVdime Big Bully Age: 25 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,828 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT im not defending AIM or anything like that. Im just pointing out the big picture. That sure AIM is scum in the minitruck market, but not known that way in all the other markets yet. i have no idea the method behind his madness, tho. Also I havent purchased shit from AVS yet so i have no clue how good they really are
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08-22-2008, 12:42 AM	#84
jeffery_843 Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,404 Location: goose creek,sc User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT i would like to see doug get a dominator and a denominator bag and cut them in half and do some testing on every part of the bag and find out just how much of the material is the "exact same". if doug would do some side by side comparisons and testing i would be down to donate a few bucks for stuff to be purchased and doug compensated for his time
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08-22-2008, 10:48 AM	#88
Prime Ol' Sparky Age: 32 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 881 Location: Flatwoods User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by AVS_JEFF The reason for those extra pages is the result of Joe throwing a hissyfit when MiniTruckin did a shop tour for us. Joe gave the poor mag guys hell that they did a shop tour for us instead of him. So this is how they make it up to him. By the way, the editors/photographers of the mags are awesome guys. It's the sales people and corporate big wigs that have their heads up their asses and do whatever it is that Joe wants. It's pretty pathetic. But the cool thing is that you, the consumers, don't fall for their load of crap. Yeah I agree with you, all the guys I have met from the mags are great. But it is sad that the corporate side makes those decisions and runs those articles. I would not use their plug and play on a red wagon let alone a truck. BTW if you make the shirt, don't forget about us full sized mini truckers. I'll take a xxl white one, just let me know how much and when they become available.
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08-22-2008, 10:55 AM	#89
Draggin88 405AWDHP Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,877 Location: With your wife! User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT $15 Shipped! I'll Take a large!
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08-22-2008, 11:08 AM	#90
Corey@AirLift Registered User Age: 29 Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 210 Location: Lansing, MI User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by DJDAudio Thanks man, Off the bat I could tell you I would find the Rubber bellow and end caps to be different, the only think similar would be the end crimp design. because as Joe Said they are done on the same or (same style) machine lol That would be an interesting test though. I have the Dominator already sectioned so would just need to get a 'China bag' haha So Joe if you read this, Send me an (air lift copy) and I will test it to see if in fact they are the SAME bag hahaha I will fund the entire test Doug.....
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08-22-2008, 12:08 PM	#92
Draggin88 405AWDHP Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,877 Location: With your wife! User is: OffLine	Re: AVS slammed by AIM in new MT Quote: Originally Posted by Corey@AirLift I will fund the entire test Doug..... .
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