s10 airbar?

[CubanSDime]

http://www.ridetech.com/products/Che...m-806-955.html

it says it allows up to 8 inches of drop without cutting the bed or notching the frame.

i wanna lay my 20's on a 35 series tire but i dont wanna cut the bed.
if i notch my frame with this kit will i be able to lay the back?

or better siad would there be a problem with using this kit on a c-notched frame?

[smoothsdime1998]

no, mod's will still be made to the bed(pumkin hole atleast) let alone the airbar it'self

[misteviouse]

dude... why????


it looks like a cheapy make system. not only that, but, it wont even lay the truck... the frame rails will still hit the axel... why bag it if u cant lay it?

[CubanSDime]

thats disappointing....

im set on bagging it without cutting the bed.
more then likely i'll end up notching my frame with this kit to get as low as i can without cutting the bed floor.

right now im only droped 4.5 inches in the rear and im tucking a good chunk of tire.

id say im about 3 quarters of a coke can away from laying frame so i gotta think im gonna be damn close to laying.

[smoothsdime1998]

that last 3/4 is the hardest part. djdaudio(doug) lays out 18's with a modded "bar" uncut bed... unlikley even with extensive modding for 20's

[misteviouse]

the only thing u can do. which i wouldnt recommend. is use a bag cup, and cut it in half, and cut the frame to the size of that bag cup... and weld that in there, that way you have a small notch for the axel, but even then its not going to be strong...

honestly, if i was u, i'd just cut the bed floor enough to get it to lay, then do a custom plate that will go perfectly over the c notch, and then perfectly over the differential hump and the cross member you put that goes across the c notch..

if you do it right you only have like, an inch or two above your stock bed floor...

[Juan@AirRideTech]

Quote: Originally Posted by misteviouse

dude... why????


it looks like a cheapy make system. not only that, but, it wont even lay the truck... the frame rails will still hit the axel... why bag it if u cant lay it?

Far from being a cheapy made system there is alot of design and engineering that go in to all of our kits and we always use quality components ask any one who is familiar with our products. As for not laying the vehicle out, the Air bar does what it is suppose to do get the vehicle low, on air suspension with out cutting through your frame or having to modify your bed... We offer the Roadgrater system for people who want to lay there dime on the ground and don't mind notching the frame or cutting the bed, there are all sorts of different reasons people use one air system over anouther and the ways they build there trucks... Keep in mind that not every one is building there truck to drag... As for the original question I would not recommend running a notch with the air bar, if you are wanting to notch the frame and wanting the truck to go lower the air bar may not be for you....

[smoothsdime1998]

bring back the original airbar!!!

[XtremeBowtie]

Quote: Originally Posted by misteviouse

dude... why????


it looks like a cheapy make system. not only that, but, it wont even lay the truck... the frame rails will still hit the axel... why bag it if u cant lay it?

Ssshhh...Do you hear that? I believe it's the Suicide Doors bandwagon again. All Aboard!!

[Juan@AirRideTech]

thought I would add this quote dirrect from the description from our website
"
Dragging the ground may be cool for some, but what about the customer who does NOT want to cut on their truck to make that happen? Or the customer who wants to retain full use of the bed? Or the customer who simply does not want their truck that darn low! This is the air suspension system for the S10 owner who DOES NOT want to cut up his truck.
It will provide up to 8" of drop WITHOUT cutting the frame-rail OR the bedfloor. This system requires NO welding or fabrication to install. In most applications, not even the EVAP canisters need to be moved."

[misteviouse]

i didnt build my truck to drag... infact, i have only dragged my truck twice in the three years its been bagged... but, why bag a truck that doesnt get any lower then lowering blocks?

[Juan@AirRideTech]

Quote: Originally Posted by misteviouse

i didnt build my truck to drag... infact, i have only dragged my truck twice in the three years its been bagged... but, why bag a truck that doesnt get any lower then lowering blocks?

see post # 7

[Scrat]

Quote: Originally Posted by misteviouse

i didnt build my truck to drag... infact, i have only dragged my truck twice in the three years its been bagged... but, why bag a truck that doesnt get any lower then lowering blocks?

i've seen a truck with an airbar and it sits pretty low, lower than any truck i seen with blocks. it was to low for normal driving.

[rockyroad217]

i like my airbar. lol

[redrider]

Quote: Originally Posted by misteviouse

i didnt build my truck to drag... infact, i have only dragged my truck twice in the three years its been bagged... but, why bag a truck that doesnt get any lower then lowering blocks?

y build a truck to lay frame if u arent going to drag it? cant stand people that are set towards laying there shit out on frame(thought this was a s10 site, not lay ur truck on frame or we hate on u type of site) and not open to other peoples' concerns with having to use their trucks for daily use to haul shit and what not, or dont have the tools to make their truck lay on the ground so bolt on is their route. Yes I have the air bar, with 2.25" notch, and a 1" lowering block and I love the setup.... would have liked the old air bar, but I make my shit work. Brackets to drag if i want, and my kit lays out on the ground without getting crushed. this whole shit of s10forum seems one sided on shit and that is, ur truck has gotta lay frame or its a waste of time to do air ride... I SAY FUCK HATERS on not laying out an air ride truck!!!

[SSdime22]

ok so after all, with the air bar on a second generation s10, with a bolt in c-notch (the notch that at no point fully seperates your chassis), and small tires (18's 215's for example) ...would have you pretty darn low...low enough that you could put drag brackets on it and maybe let some sparks fly or no way

[Drummer_Wes]

so you can use lowering blocks with this airbar to get it a little lower? i just dont want to cut my bed i use it too much

[Drummer_Wes]

o and where do you find such bolt in notch and you dont have to cut the bed for that right?

[xtremefour]

I have the air bar and I'm 50/50 with it. I was an easy install and works well, no real problems with it. I have had mine for about 4 years now and over the past winter both of my bottom shock mounts broke in 1/2 and will need to be rewelded up.

The other problem is that I was told to go ahead and get the bolt in C-Notches to go a little lower. Well I installed them and now my driveshaft hits the clam shell bracket and makes an awful noise if I go to low. So haveing the C-notches was just a wast of time for me.

Other wise the kit is till ok. I still wish that I would have waited and gotten something like the SD bolt on 3 link or 5 link


Matt

[SSdime22]

ya but that noise occurs if your moving with the rear fully aired out right?

[SoLowXtreme]

DjdAudio has the AirBar and he lays, i'm sure he'll chime in and say what needs to be done to lay with it

[rockyroad217]

he has the older airbar..cant do it with the new one

[SoLowXtreme]

Quote: Originally Posted by rockyroad217

he has the older airbar..cant do it with the new one

i dunno about that....i'm pretty sure the new can be modded, cuz i had it and 98layinframe had some ideas on how to make it lay out

[layinlow88]

raised bed floor??

[rockyroad217]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoLowXtreme

i dunno about that....i'm pretty sure the new can be modded, cuz i had it and 98layinframe had some ideas on how to make it lay out

im pretty sure you cant make it lay out unless you redesign the entire setup, cuz i wanted to make mine layout too

[Drummer_Wes]

where can you get a good notch

[rockyroad217]

mini notch from suicide doors

[DJDAudio]

First let me say AirRide make one top noth product!
Everything of theres I have ever used or tested has been 100% perfect.

Tons of engineering goes into all of there products.

For example,

I am running the first gen Airbar. I am running it way out of spec from what it was ever intended to be used.

I have drop blocks and F9000's on it and a 2.25" notch.

and it is well over 5 years old.

To boot. with the axle hitting the top of the 2.25" notch the diff is hitting the metal of the bed floor and pushing it up. (you will have to cut out the under bed brace.

EDIT:
and that is with 225/40/18's

[98layinframe]

Quote: Originally Posted by xtremefour

I have the air bar and I'm 50/50 with it. I was an easy install and works well, no real problems with it. I have had mine for about 4 years now and over the past winter both of my bottom shock mounts broke in 1/2 and will need to be rewelded up.

The other problem is that I was told to go ahead and get the bolt in C-Notches to go a little lower. Well I installed them and now my driveshaft hits the clam shell bracket and makes an awful noise if I go to low. So haveing the C-notches was just a wast of time for me.

Other wise the kit is till ok. I still wish that I would have waited and gotten something like the SD bolt on 3 link or 5 link


Matt

Dont know if you got your info from one of the many threads i posted up info in about modding this kit or not.. but either way that was allways one of the very first things mentioned in the info.. was how ya had to modify the gas tank member and the clam shell bracket to clear the driveshaft once the truck sits lower in the new notches.



And yeah i so wish ART would bring back the first gen air bar type link bar setup. Hell call it the Air Bar III. With only a few minor changes, they could fix all the wheel hop problems, pinion angle problems and also allow the owner the option to layout on a much taller tire later on down the road if he decided to end up notching the frame... all while remaining fully bolt on.

[xtremefour]

Do you have a link to where you show how to modify it? I was thinking of buying the Roadgrater gas tank member or Iwas going to cut out as much as I could and then see about it getting welded up.

Matt

I dont know how I missed your threads I know that I had done a lot of research at the time but somehow I missed that info.


Matt

[98layinframe]

nope i dont have a simple link to post up.. as i never made a thread about it, only posted in others threads when they asked questions.

If i knew someone localy with the setup, i could modify it and do a right up... but i dont

[rockyroad217]

you can fly down here and do mine