airbar question...slam

[mike_xtreme]

i have a question.
i have a 2000 xtreme with the airbar.
im wondering if i can somehow run slam bags instead of the crappy sleeve bags?
ive heard of people doing that.
but idk, i wanna ask the experts.
and if can run slams, is there anything i would need?
let me know
thanks


and another qusetion, is it safe to just cut the frame enought to go lower.
like put no notches, and just cut the frame 2 inches so the rear end clears?

[HondaGuy]

Quote: Originally Posted by mike_xtreme

i have a question.
i have a 2000 xtreme with the airbar.
im wondering if i can somehow run slam bags instead of the crappy sleeve bags?
ive heard of people doing that.
but idk, i wanna ask the experts.
and if can run slams, is there anything i would need?
let me know
thanks


and another qusetion, is it safe to just cut the frame enought to go lower.
like put no notches, and just cut the frame 2 inches so the rear end clears?

My brother has the airbar and his sleeve bags aren't crappy. They work well imo. I'm not sure about putting slams on it, someone else will have to answer that.

I wouldn't cut the frame without at least putting in a bolt in C-notch.

[smoothsdime1998]

its not going to be worth it the sleeves will ride better. no its definatly not safe to just cut the frame.

[marolf101x]

Air bags:
You can run Slams on the rear of your dime, but the ride will be harsh. We use sleeve style air springs as they have the correct spring rate to lift the vehicle and provide a a nice ride.

Take a look at the front and rear suspensions. The front uses double A-arms with the bag in the middle (between the frame and the spindle) creating a motion ratio (between 1.6:1 and 2:1 depending). The rear suspension places the bags right behind the rear end and provides a motion ratio of almost 1:1. So if you put double convoluted air springs on the rear, the spring rate will be very high, and a rough ride will result.

C-notch:
You'll notice the frame is shaped like a "C". If you cut the bottom out, and do not weld in new metal, you end up with an upside down "L". If you cut all the side out you have a "-". This will decrease the strength of the frame, and it will be more likely to bend and break at this point.

[rockyroad217]

and to add to marolf101x's input..if you notch it, you're driveshaft is probly gonna hit the gastank crossmember

[SSdime22]

with the airbar and a 2.25'' bolt in c-notch ur driveshaft hits the gastank crossmember?

[BaggedXMAN]

doesnt ur xtreme lay kit with the air bar in the rear?

[rockyroad217]

Quote: Originally Posted by SSdime22

with the airbar and a 2.25'' bolt in c-notch ur driveshaft hits the gastank crossmember?

more than likely..mines close already and i dont even have a notch

[BaggedXMAN]

with a raised gas tank member and a mini c-notch ur driveshaft should clear right?

[BaggedXMAN]

and will slam bags drop you lower then the sleeve bags will? or dont the bag got anything to do with it?

[rockyroad217]

the bag has nothing to do with how low it will go..with the airbar, the axle hits the frame and wont go any lower..and you would have to fab up a mount for the wishbone if you tried to run a raised gastank crossmember