Question before I order, again

Forklift · 08-20-2008, 02:26 PM

So if I order the bolt-on axle mounts for the S-10, how long of a lower bar will I need to order? I know the first time I got them they were 24", but those links I left in LA as they were really rusted from the flooding and years of sitting after the first guy to try the 4-link failed. Anyway, heres the pics of what I was left with, can I salvage them and reinforce them later? or cut it all loose and start over? I know I need to cut loose the bag mounts if you can see them in the pics. He tried to weld them to the parts where the frame and front gas tank mount meet. He also burnt through the body support for clearance, which aint so bad I guess. Im trying to save some money as I need to rebuild the tranny still and Ive already bought one cantilever 4-link already and the wife doesnt like spending money on this. This is the way I had to drive this thing home, with the 4-link bolted in and had to go back and redo the leafs and shocks, it was a rough ride if I remember rightTo tell you the truth, I forgot about all this stuff that was already welded in and done! I guess I dont need that 10 bolt bolt-in really.

Opinions?

Forklift · 08-20-2008, 02:37 PM

ok, upon a little further investigation by me and a yard stick
As it sits right now the lowers are about 26" and the uppers are 20" where the mounts sit for now. Good, bad, replace it all?

***Ricky*** · 08-20-2008, 04:14 PM

I Would Start Over & Cut It All Out..that's Me Tho...

TUCNRIM88 · 08-20-2008, 04:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ricky

I Would Start Over & Cut It All Out..that's Me Tho...

yeah im with folowing that advice. also i think ill get a mohawk.

Forklift · 08-21-2008, 03:01 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ricky

I Would Start Over & Cut It All Out..that's Me Tho...

so if i do the bolt-ins what length do my lowers need to be to bolt the front to my stock leaf perches?

***Ricky*** · 08-21-2008, 09:56 AM

You really don't want those bolted to the hangers in the factory spot. The front of the bar will be hanging to low & could drag off...

Forklift · 08-21-2008, 11:05 AM

not on a blazer, it sits up on the side of the frame

***Ricky*** · 08-21-2008, 01:10 PM

ahh..then yes you can go from there, or check out the 4 door Blazer Dave (AVtekk) did.

Forklift · 08-27-2008, 02:16 PM

ok, so I spent some time under it and put some thought into it. Im thinking of doing the bolt-on axle brackets, something around a 25" lower adjustable bar, 26" or so rear square bar with a bag mount on top of it, the round upper bag bracket with the bolts of the bag mostly bolted to the frame, but add supports, and then figure out the uppers later. I measured and sure enough the support above the rear end will have to go and get redone, but theres no way Id do the bolt-on diff bracket as it would go WAY too high. Id like my floor to be a close to the one that AVTEKK did as possible as I still need to make room for tanks, 4 12s and 3 amps

Forklift · 08-27-2008, 02:38 PM

heres what Im thinking for rear bag placement. It clears the tank the upper will dam near just need some holes drilled and to be supported for extra strength at the upper bag mount

Forklift · 08-27-2008, 02:55 PM

I guess I should have said that I will want the rear bars to bolt into the stock rear leaf locations, using the rear shackle as a dog bone to give the swing needed to articulate right

Forklift · 08-28-2008, 11:00 AM

come on guys, ideas?

***AVTekk*** · 08-29-2008, 12:29 AM

you def do not want the shackle to be on the frame in a lift bar setup, you want it to be on the axle, otherwise while the axle travels in its arc, it will pull and push the bag forwards and rearwards out of alignment, putting heavy stress and wear on the bag.

Forklift · 08-29-2008, 01:23 AM

ok, so reverse the link in my paint pic right?

Forklift · 08-29-2008, 01:56 AM

Heres idea 2, like this?

V8Blaze · 08-29-2008, 04:51 PM

yep that will work, its an idea ive been kicking around for my 2 door. You will probably need to either run a slight bend in your lift bars *like the bolt on backhalf* or lower the rear mounting point of the lift bar so the bag isnt at such extreme angles at all times

Forklift · 08-29-2008, 11:40 PM

got this today, FREE!

V8Blaze · 08-30-2008, 01:37 AM

free stuff is always good, i know i was stoked when my freebie lower control arms came in

Forklift · 09-09-2008, 01:19 PM

Ok, well I ordered! I got my buddy sending me my 4-link I left in LA. Got the left bar axle brackets, under frame 4-link mounts, bolts, and a bunch of tabs to replace all that stuff in the pics and reinstall the link as well as 2 new ones to make this thing lay out. Next step, the tranny
heres the links hes sending me. I dont know why I left them in LA, I guess it was all the rust on them ,but he cleaned them up for me! Yes those brackets are coming off! thats how the guy tried to install them.

***AVTekk*** · 09-10-2008, 12:08 AM

damn those brackets would have never worked, you always want the bag as centered over the bar as possible!

Forklift · 09-10-2008, 12:30 AM

your telling me and of course you saw the rest. I dont know what happened with this build. The guy that did all this had built a body dropped Hardbody Nissan with a SR20 DET engine and matching 6-speed tranny straight outta Japan with a 300Z independent rearend and Caddy lights. Katrina gave it about 7 foot of water so he had to start over or it might be in the mags by now.

Forklift · 09-15-2008, 10:42 PM

I might cut the floor tomorrow if Im not as sick as I think I might be (sick now and getting worse). Im now wondering if I should cut the floor, do a bigger notch and than the 4-link, or can I do the link first? Right now its got a standard bolt-in blazer notch and I dont know if thats going to limit the design of the rear arms for when I go to put some 20s on it later (dont tell the wife) and notch it to lay out.

08-20-2008, 02:26 PM	#1
Forklift Its that dam ADD! Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,533 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Question before I order, again So if I order the bolt-on axle mounts for the S-10, how long of a lower bar will I need to order? I know the first time I got them they were 24", but those links I left in LA as they were really rusted from the flooding and years of sitting after the first guy to try the 4-link failed. Anyway, heres the pics of what I was left with, can I salvage them and reinforce them later? or cut it all loose and start over? I know I need to cut loose the bag mounts if you can see them in the pics. He tried to weld them to the parts where the frame and front gas tank mount meet. He also burnt through the body support for clearance, which aint so bad I guess. Im trying to save some money as I need to rebuild the tranny still and Ive already bought one cantilever 4-link already and the wife doesnt like spending money on this. This is the way I had to drive this thing home, with the 4-link bolted in and had to go back and redo the leafs and shocks, it was a rough ride if I remember rightTo tell you the truth, I forgot about all this stuff that was already welded in and done! I guess I dont need that 10 bolt bolt-in really. Opinions? Last edited by Forklift : 08-20-2008 at 02:31 PM.
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08-20-2008, 02:37 PM	#2
Forklift Its that dam ADD! Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,533 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again ok, upon a little further investigation by me and a yard stick As it sits right now the lowers are about 26" and the uppers are 20" where the mounts sit for now. Good, bad, replace it all?
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08-20-2008, 04:14 PM	#3
*Ricky* Join the revolution Age: 95 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,287 Location: princeton,in. User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again I Would Start Over & Cut It All Out..that's Me Tho...
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08-20-2008, 04:27 PM	#4
TUCNRIM88 Registered User Age: 33 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,193 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again Quote: Originally Posted by Ricky I Would Start Over & Cut It All Out..that's Me Tho... yeah im with folowing that advice. also i think ill get a mohawk.
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08-21-2008, 03:01 AM	#5
Forklift Its that dam ADD! Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,533 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again Quote: Originally Posted by Ricky I Would Start Over & Cut It All Out..that's Me Tho... so if i do the bolt-ins what length do my lowers need to be to bolt the front to my stock leaf perches?
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08-21-2008, 09:56 AM	#6
*Ricky* Join the revolution Age: 95 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,287 Location: princeton,in. User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again You really don't want those bolted to the hangers in the factory spot. The front of the bar will be hanging to low & could drag off...
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08-21-2008, 11:05 AM	#7
Forklift Its that dam ADD! Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,533 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again not on a blazer, it sits up on the side of the frame
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08-21-2008, 01:10 PM	#8
*Ricky* Join the revolution Age: 95 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,287 Location: princeton,in. User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again ahh..then yes you can go from there, or check out the 4 door Blazer Dave (AVtekk) did.
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08-27-2008, 02:16 PM	#9
Forklift Its that dam ADD! Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,533 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again ok, so I spent some time under it and put some thought into it. Im thinking of doing the bolt-on axle brackets, something around a 25" lower adjustable bar, 26" or so rear square bar with a bag mount on top of it, the round upper bag bracket with the bolts of the bag mostly bolted to the frame, but add supports, and then figure out the uppers later. I measured and sure enough the support above the rear end will have to go and get redone, but theres no way Id do the bolt-on diff bracket as it would go WAY too high. Id like my floor to be a close to the one that AVTEKK did as possible as I still need to make room for tanks, 4 12s and 3 amps
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08-27-2008, 02:38 PM	#10
Forklift Its that dam ADD! Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,533 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again heres what Im thinking for rear bag placement. It clears the tank the upper will dam near just need some holes drilled and to be supported for extra strength at the upper bag mount
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08-27-2008, 02:55 PM	#11
Forklift Its that dam ADD! Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,533 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again I guess I should have said that I will want the rear bars to bolt into the stock rear leaf locations, using the rear shackle as a dog bone to give the swing needed to articulate right
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08-28-2008, 11:00 AM	#12
Forklift Its that dam ADD! Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,533 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again come on guys, ideas?
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08-29-2008, 01:23 AM	#14
Forklift Its that dam ADD! Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,533 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again ok, so reverse the link in my paint pic right?
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08-29-2008, 01:56 AM	#15
Forklift Its that dam ADD! Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,533 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again Heres idea 2, like this?
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08-29-2008, 04:51 PM	#16
V8Blaze V8 with bags Age: 23 Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,186 Location: baton rouge, LA User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again yep that will work, its an idea ive been kicking around for my 2 door. You will probably need to either run a slight bend in your lift bars like the bolt on backhalf or lower the rear mounting point of the lift bar so the bag isnt at such extreme angles at all times
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08-29-2008, 11:40 PM	#17
Forklift Its that dam ADD! Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,533 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again got this today, FREE!
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08-30-2008, 01:37 AM	#18
V8Blaze V8 with bags Age: 23 Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,186 Location: baton rouge, LA User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again free stuff is always good, i know i was stoked when my freebie lower control arms came in
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09-09-2008, 01:19 PM	#19
Forklift Its that dam ADD! Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,533 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again Ok, well I ordered! I got my buddy sending me my 4-link I left in LA. Got the left bar axle brackets, under frame 4-link mounts, bolts, and a bunch of tabs to replace all that stuff in the pics and reinstall the link as well as 2 new ones to make this thing lay out. Next step, the tranny heres the links hes sending me. I dont know why I left them in LA, I guess it was all the rust on them ,but he cleaned them up for me! Yes those brackets are coming off! thats how the guy tried to install them. Last edited by Forklift : 09-09-2008 at 01:25 PM.
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09-10-2008, 12:30 AM	#21
Forklift Its that dam ADD! Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,533 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again your telling me and of course you saw the rest. I dont know what happened with this build. The guy that did all this had built a body dropped Hardbody Nissan with a SR20 DET engine and matching 6-speed tranny straight outta Japan with a 300Z independent rearend and Caddy lights. Katrina gave it about 7 foot of water so he had to start over or it might be in the mags by now.
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09-15-2008, 10:42 PM	#22
Forklift Its that dam ADD! Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,533 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Question before I order, again I might cut the floor tomorrow if Im not as sick as I think I might be (sick now and getting worse). Im now wondering if I should cut the floor, do a bigger notch and than the 4-link, or can I do the link first? Right now its got a standard bolt-in blazer notch and I dont know if thats going to limit the design of the rear arms for when I go to put some 20s on it later (dont tell the wife) and notch it to lay out.
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