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Old 03-25-2003, 07:31 PM   #1
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Zr2 Plow?

Im posting this here because you wouldnt plow with anything but a 4x4, move it if you like, but here goes. I have heard that the front end of the ZR2's arent strong enough to support the weight of a plow. What can be done to strengthen the front end? I realize there are light weight plows out there, but that is not the answer. I would like to know how to beef up the front end of my truck. Thanks guys. Always appreciated.
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Old 03-25-2003, 09:53 PM   #2
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Stiffer torsion bars will better support the weight, but their is still extra stress on the ball joints and steering components. A lightweight plow (like a SnowWave clear plow, much lighter than a full steel one) is definitly needed on a small truck like this. With a heavy plow you'll be replacing parts in no time, most guys running even 3/4 ton truck that plow a lot in the winter go through balljoints about once a year.
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So if I got some stiffer torsion bars that would help? Also, is there ANYTHING else that I could do? Even if its a bunch of little things, they would all add up to increase the strength. I understand that I should get the lightest plow I can get, and I plan to, (snoway) but Im just wondering if there is anything I can do to compensate even more. I want to make the front end as strong as I can, so please give me some input. thanks.
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Replace your balljoints with Moog Lifetimes, as well as your idler arm. They will probably still wear out, as they were not designed to live with hundreds of pounds extra hanging off the front of the truck.

Another good idea is taking the plow off when not needed. Many guys around here only throw their on when snow is called for (which seems to be daily). Other than that they just run around with the plow frame on so there isn't so much weight and aerodynamic drag.

If you really want to save the front of your truck, go buy an old beater plow truck and use that for pushing snow. There are often trucks around here with plows for under a grand. Fixing up the ZR2 with a plow will probably cost more than that.
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what else can I do to strengthen the front end? Someone has to know some tricks. Thanks.
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i wouldnt do that to a ZR2... just buy a Trackor... with a front in loader... 4x4 an you can push snow all day long and not spend so much money.... that is what i did. i have B7100HSD an that is what i moved snow with here. an all kinda of other things too..... make more money doing other things then moving snow...
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S104x41996, What is a Trackor? and how much does it cost? Would it cost less than a plow? I live in Ohio and the winters suck here. So Id like to be able to move snow easily...but what you say about "make money doing other things too" interests me. Id like some info. Thanks S104x41996
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F*ck, Im retarded. I think you meant TRACTOR...nevermind. I understand now. That is a little out of my price range at the moment. Thanks anyway for the suggestion.
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Ohio winters? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Sorry, I woke up to 14" of snow today, and it's still coming down like mad. Snowfall this year - 208 inches and counting. And this was a WEAK winter here. We average 250 inches of snowfall a year. From late January through the end of March there is almost always over 3 feet of snow on the ground, often over 4 feet. Ohio winters suck, that's like the tropics down there to me....

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yeah, thanks for making fun of ohio winters. thats really classy. fact is, michigan is only about 50 miles north of where I live...so I still get a he11 of a lot of snow. All that said...lets keep it simple...wolverines suck. GO BUCS! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Michigan may only be 50 miles north, but I am about 550 miles north. You know the little peninsula that stick out into Lake Superior? Yea, that's where my frozen ass lives. We get so much lake effect snow it isn't even funny. This winter was light because Superior actually froze 100% across! No moisture could get to the air. First time since 1978. It's cause of all the extra cold weather this winter, we went almost 3 straight weeks never seeing a temp above 0 F.
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DAMN, looks like you could use a 4x4. however, this post isnt about who's state is better, its about me trying to strengthen my front end. someone, please. you all have to know some tricks of the trade. thanks.
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Sorry bout getting off-track.

Like I said before, Moog ball joints, Moog idler arm, and stiffer torsion bars. The bars will keep the front end up with the extra weight of the plow, and the ball joints are just way stronger than stock.

Your problem won't really be that you will break things, you'll just wear out the ball joints and idler arm really fast because they are not as heavy duty as the ones on, say, a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup. I have heard of people adapting fullsize truck idler arms to work with the s-series for more beef there. Basically you would need one with EXACTLY the same length from the pivot to the center link too keep steering geometry correct. Other than that it would just be a few holes drilled in the frame if that end didn't line up with the stockers, no big deal.

As for balljoints, you are just kinda screwed there. They will wear out, although Moog offers a lifetime warrenty (I bet a plow would void it, but you might still be able to get it honored). There is still the pain of changing em every so often. My uncle plows for businesses as a side job and uses a 2001 Dodge 3/4 ton. Every spring he puts new ball joints on it, but he also puts a crap load of miles on it. I think he has already rolled 150,000 miles on it.

I am not really sure how the CV's will hold to the extra stress of pushing snow. I know they are roughly 25% smaller than those on a fullsize, so that's quite a strength reduction there!
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where would I go about finding stiffer torsion bars? What company makes them and roughly (or exactly, if you know) how much would they cost?
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Anyone know where I can get stiffer torsion bars for my truck? (2000 ZR2) Id like to know where and how much $$? Thank you.
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I believe there are optional stiffer bars offered from the factory.

You can also check with aftermarket suspension companies that make lifts for the ZR2, many come with new torsion bars that may be stiffer and I bet you could get seperatly. Also check with V-8 swap specialists, I imagine someone there would sell stiffer ones to deal with the weight of a smallblock.
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Sorry, I woke up to 14" of snow today, and it's still coming down like mad. Snowfall this year - 208 inches and counting. And this was a WEAK winter here. We average 250 inches of snowfall a year. From late January through the end of March there is almost always over 3 feet of snow on the ground, often over 4 feet. Ohio winters suck, that's like the tropics down there to me....




we went almost 3 straight weeks never seeing a temp above 0 F.
WOW, we had 2.08 inches of rain last year and it was 90*F today
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We can start another post entitled "meteorological phenomenon" if everyone wants to talk about the weather. this post is about ZR2's and plows. Thanks
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