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2000 s10 zr2 poor fuel economy

I own a 2000 chevy s10 zr2 automatic that is getting horrible gas mileage. the truck itself has 151k miles but has a used engine with 85k that has new plugs wires cap and rotor thermostat with new housing and water pump. It seems to be getting like 9 mpg and doesn't seem to be getting better mpg on the highway either. I've tried changing the tps sensor, recharging the k&n air intake, and cleaning the maf sensor. Is there anything else I can do that might fix the problem like a fuel filter or something else. the tranny seems to shift at higher rpm like 2500 and close to 3000 so idk if I need to get tranny work

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Re: 2000 s10 zr2 poor fuel economy

I'd bet tranny.............sorry. Mine shifts at 1800-1900 RPM yours sound really high

Why do you ask me what kind of mileage I get?

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I mean it only shifts high when i really try accelerating pretty hard at red lights. if i accelerate slow and smooth it shifts at like 1900 so I'm not sure. Should i do a tranny fluid and filter change?
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I would change the fuel filter first. It should be just before the driver rear tire on the frame rail. If you haven't already.

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trans sounds fine to me, change your fuel filter first and see if that helps. have you had it checked for codes? what does your temp guage say? if it doesn't get up to operating temp (or thinks it doesn't), the engine will stay in Open Loop mode which in turn would cause poor mileage.

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drive like a granny lol maybe it was geared down how big are your tires
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My trans was shifting way high and I thought it was going bad on me. Then one day my SES light came on and it was a TPS code. I replaced the TPS and it cured my problem. Can't say for sure yours is the same problem, but I posted my experience in case it may help.
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Yeah im definately gunna change the fuel filter soon. I already changed the TPS and it seemed to help alot but nothing very noticeable, i hope the TPS i bought isn't junk. As for gears I'm pretty sure its just stock 3.73 with 31in tires so I don't think its geared down too low. My truck might not be getting up to operating temp since it does seem like it stays cold, how would i fix the open loop mode problem?
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i would hook a scanner up to it if you can to see if in fact it isn't reaching temp. where does the needle on your temp guage sit? since you said you changed the t-stat, next step would be the temp sensor on the left side of the block.

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Temp should be just under 210. Just had this problem on my jimmy. Was only getting up to about 150 and 10mpg.

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Yeah I don't drive too far to school about 4 miles or so away and the temp seems to be only at 150 or so, so this is probably the problem. How would i fix this?
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Would a bad knock sensor be the problem?


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Temp sensor should fix it, not sure about the knock sensor. Why do you ask?

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Re: 2000 s10 zr2 poor fuel economy

ok when my truck was the warmest, the temp was about 170 or so. It was in between the 1/4 line and the half so I'm not sure if it's not warming up completely


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Might not be, teh needle should sit just under the half mark at 190*.

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I just bought my 96 ZR2 and it seems like the temp gage is right around 160. I am going to have to check it with the Laser because my first tank Fuel economy is about 14 around town.

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I just bought my 96 ZR2 and it seems like the temp gage is right around 160. I am going to have to check it with the Laser because my first tank Fuel economy is about 14 around town.
My old 99 had the same problem. Ended up being the t stat.
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This^^

Not getting up to proper temp will cause your engine to run in open loop mode. It tells the ECM to use different fuel trims which is what causes bad mileage. Don't trust the gauge, get a scanner with live data or like Zonk said, a laser is almost as good.

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I had a P0128 code yesterday and I bought a scanner with live data and found the engine max temp after 5 miles was 138 deg. A thermostat cured that problem. Now I'm at 190-195 according to the scanner.

I'm getting 13.4 mpg. I hope that goes up. But the heater works a lot better now
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Yeah i'll take 13.4 mpg any day lol how much was the scanner?


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The scanner was $100. It's on sale from $130 at Autozone. It's the actron CP9575 and has live data and it Internet upgradeable. I upgraded it just after I got it. Just needed to use my mini USB cable to connect it.

Autozone has a rewards card thing also. You get $10 credit for registering the card online (emailed to you in a couple of weeks) and after 5 $20 purchases you get $20 credit. After ball joints, water pump, window motor and rear brakes I easily got the credit. I used my credit when I got the scanner.

I could go to Autozone and use there scanner but that only gave me the codes. I needed a scanner that I could have with me and see the live data. They won't let you "borrow" theirs for that.

So now that I've got the scanner I'll probably not use it much, but I have it and when a code does come up it won't drive me crazy not knowing what it is waiting for Autozone to open and find out what it is.
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This^^

Not getting up to proper temp will cause your engine to run in open loop mode. It tells the ECM to use different fuel trims which is what causes bad mileage. Don't trust the gauge, get a scanner with live data or like Zonk said, a laser is almost as good.
Your exactly right about it staying in open loop getting poor fuel economy.
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Well anyone know of what and where the best and cheapest scanners are at?


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My truck does seem to be running really rich. When i start my truck up at like 730 am in cleve where its probably like 40 degrees in the morning and the exaust is smoking alot. I do run an open straight pipe with no muffler though.


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go and gut your cats! i was getting 10 miles to the gallon and every thing on the truck was fine so i decided to check the cat and it was clogged, so i gutted it and i get 17-20 now, try it.
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its not the trany, thats what i thought it was doing the same thing yours was doing Tshak2000zr2 and it was the cat now every things all good.
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Well anyone know of what and where the best and cheapest scanners are at?

I know this is a little late to answer your question, but I just found this. If I'd have known about it I would have gotten this instead of the one I got from Autozone. It does everything my scanner does and a lot more.


I'll be placing my order for this right after my next payday.

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go and gut your cats! i was getting 10 miles to the gallon and every thing on the truck was fine so i decided to check the cat and it was clogged, so i gutted it and i get 17-20 now, try it.
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its not the trany, thats what i thought it was doing the same thing yours was doing Tshak2000zr2 and it was the cat now every things all good.
In my experience, a plugged up cat usually results in a sudden extreme loss of power more-so than poor mileage. I am still willing to bet the OPs truck is not going into closed loop and since he did the t-stat along with everything else already, chances are it's the temp sensor.

OP - did changing your fuel filter make a difference? Also, if you haven't done a trans filter change, although it shouldn't effect this problem, it wouldn't hurt. Let us know how it goes

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my mechanic checked it out for codes and he said everything was reading perfect. I'm gunna calculate my mpg again and see if anything changed


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Another vote for t-stat. How old is it? I suggest replacing that and your rad cap.

Ideally this is the time for a coolant flush.

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The t-stat was replaced in October. I might flush the radiator soon and maybe trans fluid


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How's your mpg been lately? Doing a coolant system flush/clean might help get the truck up to proper temp better, I suggest putting green fluid in afterwards but make sure you get it good and clean.

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I got my Ultragage and my first tank with it went from 14 to 18.5 just by watching the instant fuel mileage. Not bad for an 85 dollar add on. Hooking up behind a big rig on the freeway makes really big numbers. You can see it drop when you move to the side. It lets you find where your truck likes to cruise at and sip gas.
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if the OP only drives 4 miles 1 wy to scholl his truck never goes into closed loop. he will get sucky gas mileage.

I used to live 1 mile from my highschool. my 94 (stock) would avg about 5-8 mpg. on the hwy it got 22 mpg.

so unless he moves further away from school or changes school he will not get good mpg. he doesn't do enough hwy for the truck to offset the short trip.

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I just calc the mpg, and I'm averaging 13.5 mixed driving. Wish it was higher, but hey it's winter time in Cleve


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That doesn't seem to far off normal, I average ~15 mixed driving.

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You said you changed the spark plugs...

With AC Delco correct? I've never seen any other brand other than factory brand work in gm vehicles very well.
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Dang, 13.5 in that little truck?

I'm getting 11.7 in my H2, which has the 6.0
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Re: 2000 s10 zr2 poor fuel economy

Hey Zonk, so are u happy with the ultragage? I'm thinking about buying one if ur mpg increase is legit


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