Truck arm?

Buddha.. · 09-24-2008, 06:12 AM

Sorry if this has been done to death but is anyone running a truck arm setup on a S10?

greencactus3 · 09-24-2008, 01:53 PM

never seen one yet, but 2links a plenty

Buddha.. · 09-24-2008, 03:27 PM

http://www.hotrodstohell.net/truckar...karm_index.htm

Hmm.

greencactus3 · 09-24-2008, 04:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Buddha..

http://www.hotrodstohell.net/truckar...karm_index.htm

Hmm.

pretty much no specifications listed on there, and it claims it handles corners, launches, and ride quality all at the same time. since that is pretty much impossible to achieve all at the same time, especially at their cost, you hafta wonder.... was there any r&d put into this? or is it just a 2link with a marketing gimmick?

Buddha.. · 09-24-2008, 06:00 PM

They list a price?

dart_06 · 09-24-2008, 06:20 PM

interesting..

ka_jd7and1 · 09-24-2008, 06:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Buddha..

They list a price?

Just the crossmember is $250....

circa · 09-24-2008, 07:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3

pretty much no specifications listed on there, and it claims it handles corners, launches, and ride quality all at the same time. since that is pretty much impossible to achieve all at the same time, especially at their cost, you hafta wonder.... was there any r&d put into this? or is it just a 2link with a marketing gimmick?

I bought one for the s10, have yet to weld it up and install.

Steve himself did the R&D (i think some others too).. not to mention its in alot of racecars.... but truckarms seemed to be loved or hated, no inbetween feelings. Most of the "haters" have never ran a truckarm besides in their 73 pickup. The coils can easily be changed for tuning spring rates. I think the QA1 shocks have been made specially for HTH.

it looks to be a very easy setup to bag too! but im more into going fast and out handling that M5 that is sneaky up behind me...

greencactus3 · 09-24-2008, 08:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ka_jd7and1

Just the crossmember is $250....

aha. my bad then. i do not know price then.
but you'd think they'd give a lot more info/spec on their setup if they were serious.
bar material/thickness, length, etc etc

Buddha.. · 09-24-2008, 10:33 PM

Quote:

We are selling those for 1895.00 + shipping,that is 100.00 of our regular price. Steve

Good lord, back to the drawing board for me.

S15vortecpwr · 09-24-2008, 11:30 PM

for 2 grand i could modify a factory truck arm setup for a s10, since they are fairly easy to get.

1/4milecrazy · 09-24-2008, 11:47 PM

these systems do not look like they are designed to be used in air suspension systems or anything you are looking to get any kind of tavel out of. although the cental mounting points of the bars will allow a lot more articulation than a standard 2 link/ladder bar set-up, but this kit looks well designed and looks to be a race only set up. Nascar uses a 2 link based system in the back, so did GM back in the 60s and it worked fairly well for the time, considering.

ill tell you this much, i never seen this setup before but if i was gonna build an S-10 with handling in mind this setup would definately be considered

i love

Buddha.. · 09-25-2008, 01:43 AM

I wish I had the money for it but I paid almost that much for the my truck.

circa · 09-25-2008, 03:59 PM

Other options would be a modified three link or a angled arm setup. You could just make up your own truck arms. There are a few website about how people did their truck arms, on different vehicles.

circa · 09-25-2008, 05:38 PM

also someone did like a trailing arm/coilovers on an s10 has his own website about how he did it, pretty cool but the arms are too short for me

Buddha.. · 09-25-2008, 07:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by circa

also someone did like a trailing arm/coilovers on an s10 has his own website about how he did it, pretty cool but the arms are too short for me

Link?

greencactus3 · 09-26-2008, 12:47 AM

hmmm short arms ......

Buddha.. · 09-26-2008, 02:32 AM

Googleing 'truck arm S10" now brings up this page as it's first web address.

That's how much info there is on the subject...

circa · 09-26-2008, 03:55 AM

ha! i didnt know steve made a kit for the s10's
i think he said mine was the first...

and... ta da here is the link
http://projects10.freeservers.com/coiloverrear.html

like i said the arm's are fairly short, mounting in the leaf spring mount.
where as my HTH kit are probably double that.

ZZ4Blazer · 09-28-2008, 04:25 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by circa

I bought one for the s10, have yet to weld it up and install.

Steve himself did the R&D (i think some others too).. not to mention its in alot of racecars.... but truckarms seemed to be loved or hated, no inbetween feelings. Most of the "haters" have never ran a truckarm besides in their 73 pickup. The coils can easily be changed for tuning spring rates. I think the QA1 shocks have been made specially for HTH.

it looks to be a very easy setup to bag too! but im more into going fast and out handling that M5 that is sneaky up behind me...

Interested in seeing finished product. I talked to them years ago, and they said they could build an s10 kit, but didnt have anything on the site yet like they do now.

How much welding is involved with the install? Did it come with install instructions/any pics?

greencactus3 · 09-29-2008, 11:37 PM

im sorry, but that damper angle is horrid

87wildside · 09-29-2008, 11:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3

im sorry, but that damper angle is horrid

As is the whole setup. I doesn't even have a PHB

circa · 09-30-2008, 03:03 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 87wildside

As is the whole setup. I doesn't even have a PHB

ya there is? panhard bar? its the second to last and last picture in that link. it's not a very good one... but its the whole concept. how much did he say he made it all for... 125$?

Quote: Originally Posted by ZZ4Blazer

Interested in seeing finished product. I talked to them years ago, and they said they could build an s10 kit, but didnt have anything on the site yet like they do now.

How much welding is involved with the install? Did it come with install instructions/any pics?

no instructions. Locate your axle. have to box the frame in certain areas for support or box your whole frame. you have to weld in that cross member, 4 supports for it. You have to weld in the spring cross member. Weld in the Panhard bar mount.

its not ALOT of welding but it is welding.... which i have yet to get started. BAH.

87wildside · 09-30-2008, 10:25 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by circa

ya there is? panhard bar? its the second to last and last picture in that link. it's not a very good one... but its the whole concept. how much did he say he made it all for... 125$?

The page must not have loaded completely when I first looked.

Quote: Originally Posted by circa

its not ALOT of welding but it is welding.... which i have yet to get started. BAH.

So when are you going to start welding it in? I've been following your truck for some time.

circa · 09-30-2008, 03:23 PM

im cleaning up my work area to get myself situated and ready to do the work. Im still waiting on a t56 from sixspeedsinc

i should get started hopefully within a month. unless my other truck gives me more problems

Buddha.. · 09-30-2008, 06:30 PM

Does that crossmember work on a stock truck? I mean wouldn't the gas tank get in the way?

circa · 09-30-2008, 07:30 PM

Crossmember, to be mounted needs the frame boxed. I wouldnt put it in trusting the stock frame untouched. It's not wide enough anyways.
yup the gas tank will be in the way.

09-24-2008, 06:12 AM	#1
Buddha.. Happy with ugly truck Age: 23 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 313 Location: Little Falls, MN User is: OffLine	Truck arm? Sorry if this has been done to death but is anyone running a truck arm setup on a S10?
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09-24-2008, 01:53 PM	#2
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 21 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,004 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? never seen one yet, but 2links a plenty
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09-24-2008, 03:27 PM	#3
Buddha.. Happy with ugly truck Age: 23 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 313 Location: Little Falls, MN User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? http://www.hotrodstohell.net/truckar...karm_index.htm Hmm.
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09-24-2008, 04:10 PM	#4
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 21 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,004 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? Quote: Originally Posted by Buddha.. http://www.hotrodstohell.net/truckar...karm_index.htm Hmm. pretty much no specifications listed on there, and it claims it handles corners, launches, and ride quality all at the same time. since that is pretty much impossible to achieve all at the same time, especially at their cost, you hafta wonder.... was there any r&d put into this? or is it just a 2link with a marketing gimmick?
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09-24-2008, 06:00 PM	#5
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09-24-2008, 06:20 PM	#6
dart_06 live.. die.. nN get drunk Age: 21 Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,043 Location: orlando fl User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? interesting..
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09-24-2008, 06:24 PM	#7
ka_jd7and1 Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,181 Location: Bakersfield, CA User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? Quote: Originally Posted by Buddha.. They list a price? Just the crossmember is $250....
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09-24-2008, 07:01 PM	#8
circa ɹǝsnqɐ p&# Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,009 Location: Puyallup, Wa User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3 pretty much no specifications listed on there, and it claims it handles corners, launches, and ride quality all at the same time. since that is pretty much impossible to achieve all at the same time, especially at their cost, you hafta wonder.... was there any r&d put into this? or is it just a 2link with a marketing gimmick? I bought one for the s10, have yet to weld it up and install. Steve himself did the R&D (i think some others too).. not to mention its in alot of racecars.... but truckarms seemed to be loved or hated, no inbetween feelings. Most of the "haters" have never ran a truckarm besides in their 73 pickup. The coils can easily be changed for tuning spring rates. I think the QA1 shocks have been made specially for HTH. it looks to be a very easy setup to bag too! but im more into going fast and out handling that M5 that is sneaky up behind me...
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09-24-2008, 08:42 PM	#9
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 21 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,004 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? Quote: Originally Posted by ka_jd7and1 Just the crossmember is $250.... aha. my bad then. i do not know price then. but you'd think they'd give a lot more info/spec on their setup if they were serious. bar material/thickness, length, etc etc
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09-24-2008, 10:33 PM	#10
Buddha.. Happy with ugly truck Age: 23 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 313 Location: Little Falls, MN User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? Quote: We are selling those for 1895.00 + shipping,that is 100.00 of our regular price. Steve Good lord, back to the drawing board for me. Last edited by Buddha.. : 09-24-2008 at 10:37 PM.
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09-24-2008, 11:30 PM	#11
S15vortecpwr goin broke but n style Age: 28 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,463 Location: Alabama User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? for 2 grand i could modify a factory truck arm setup for a s10, since they are fairly easy to get.
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1/4milecrazy SK NJ chapter VP Age: 32 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,153 Location: New Fucking Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? these systems do not look like they are designed to be used in air suspension systems or anything you are looking to get any kind of tavel out of. although the cental mounting points of the bars will allow a lot more articulation than a standard 2 link/ladder bar set-up, but this kit looks well designed and looks to be a race only set up. Nascar uses a 2 link based system in the back, so did GM back in the 60s and it worked fairly well for the time, considering. ill tell you this much, i never seen this setup before but if i was gonna build an S-10 with handling in mind this setup would definately be considered i love
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09-25-2008, 01:43 AM	#13
Buddha.. Happy with ugly truck Age: 23 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 313 Location: Little Falls, MN User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? I wish I had the money for it but I paid almost that much for the my truck.
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09-25-2008, 03:59 PM	#14
circa ɹǝsnqɐ p&# Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,009 Location: Puyallup, Wa User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? Other options would be a modified three link or a angled arm setup. You could just make up your own truck arms. There are a few website about how people did their truck arms, on different vehicles. Last edited by circa : 09-25-2008 at 04:00 PM. Reason: think i got stupid reading it the first time.
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09-25-2008, 05:38 PM	#15
circa ɹǝsnqɐ p&# Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,009 Location: Puyallup, Wa User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? also someone did like a trailing arm/coilovers on an s10 has his own website about how he did it, pretty cool but the arms are too short for me
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09-25-2008, 07:22 PM	#16
Buddha.. Happy with ugly truck Age: 23 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 313 Location: Little Falls, MN User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? Quote: Originally Posted by circa also someone did like a trailing arm/coilovers on an s10 has his own website about how he did it, pretty cool but the arms are too short for me Link?
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greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 21 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,004 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? hmmm short arms ......
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Buddha.. Happy with ugly truck Age: 23 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 313 Location: Little Falls, MN User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? Googleing 'truck arm S10" now brings up this page as it's first web address. That's how much info there is on the subject...
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09-26-2008, 03:55 AM	#19
circa ɹǝsnqɐ p&# Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,009 Location: Puyallup, Wa User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? ha! i didnt know steve made a kit for the s10's i think he said mine was the first... and... ta da here is the link http://projects10.freeservers.com/coiloverrear.html like i said the arm's are fairly short, mounting in the leaf spring mount. where as my HTH kit are probably double that.
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09-28-2008, 04:25 AM	#20
ZZ4Blazer Getting faster Age: 27 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,124 Location: Akron, Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? Quote: Originally Posted by circa I bought one for the s10, have yet to weld it up and install. Steve himself did the R&D (i think some others too).. not to mention its in alot of racecars.... but truckarms seemed to be loved or hated, no inbetween feelings. Most of the "haters" have never ran a truckarm besides in their 73 pickup. The coils can easily be changed for tuning spring rates. I think the QA1 shocks have been made specially for HTH. it looks to be a very easy setup to bag too! but im more into going fast and out handling that M5 that is sneaky up behind me... Interested in seeing finished product. I talked to them years ago, and they said they could build an s10 kit, but didnt have anything on the site yet like they do now. How much welding is involved with the install? Did it come with install instructions/any pics?
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87wildside Registered User Age: 32 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 439 Location: Newark DE User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3 im sorry, but that damper angle is horrid As is the whole setup. I doesn't even have a PHB
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circa ɹǝsnqɐ p&# Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,009 Location: Puyallup, Wa User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? Quote: Originally Posted by 87wildside As is the whole setup. I doesn't even have a PHB ya there is? panhard bar? its the second to last and last picture in that link. it's not a very good one... but its the whole concept. how much did he say he made it all for... 125$? Quote: Originally Posted by ZZ4Blazer Interested in seeing finished product. I talked to them years ago, and they said they could build an s10 kit, but didnt have anything on the site yet like they do now. How much welding is involved with the install? Did it come with install instructions/any pics? no instructions. Locate your axle. have to box the frame in certain areas for support or box your whole frame. you have to weld in that cross member, 4 supports for it. You have to weld in the spring cross member. Weld in the Panhard bar mount. its not ALOT of welding but it is welding.... which i have yet to get started. BAH.
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87wildside Registered User Age: 32 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 439 Location: Newark DE User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? Quote: Originally Posted by circa ya there is? panhard bar? its the second to last and last picture in that link. it's not a very good one... but its the whole concept. how much did he say he made it all for... 125$? The page must not have loaded completely when I first looked. Quote: Originally Posted by circa its not ALOT of welding but it is welding.... which i have yet to get started. BAH. So when are you going to start welding it in? I've been following your truck for some time.
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Buddha.. Happy with ugly truck Age: 23 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 313 Location: Little Falls, MN User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? Does that crossmember work on a stock truck? I mean wouldn't the gas tank get in the way?
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09-30-2008, 07:30 PM	#27
circa ɹǝsnqɐ p&# Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,009 Location: Puyallup, Wa User is: OffLine	Re: Truck arm? Crossmember, to be mounted needs the frame boxed. I wouldnt put it in trusting the stock frame untouched. It's not wide enough anyways. yup the gas tank will be in the way. Last edited by circa : 09-30-2008 at 07:31 PM.
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