What would you do?

RikuY · 02-10-2004, 04:50 PM

I am looking for ideas for my truck. It's on bags now with some 18'&20's. I want to do some juice and serious juice at that. What kind of a set-up would you do. Money don't matter, but be realistic (as in no 20 pump set-ups). I need to three-wheel, and drag frame.

Already has monster notch in back.

What would the set-up be for 18's all the way around?

What would it be for 13X7's all the way around?

Let me have it...

Thanks to all the replies in advance...

neverfinished94 · 02-10-2004, 06:51 PM

a 4 pump 4 dump setup would be very clean and you would be able to do any move you wanted to. i would run at least 6 batteries but 8 if you had the room. i would stick with pro hopper or cce. i personally like pro hopper. havent had any experience with hi lo though. i saw a pic of someones setup on the forum and it was VERY clean. im sure if you looked thru the posts you would find it. lata

NoDime4myTime · 02-11-2004, 01:11 AM

4 pumps is a waste of money, you can do all the stuff with 3 that you can do with 4, save a couple pennies and room.

neverfinished94 · 02-11-2004, 08:28 PM

can you lift each individual corner?

NoDime4myTime · 02-12-2004, 02:52 AM

no, but you can set it up to lift individual fronts or backs, control of lifting individual corners is kinda retarted, either do a stand 3 or a standing dog leg.

RikuY · 02-12-2004, 10:17 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by NoDime4myTime

no, but you can set it up to lift individual fronts or backs, control of lifting individual corners is kinda retarted, either do a stand 3 or a standing dog leg.

Thanks for your input. Two pumps to the front is faster, given batteries are doubled. Also, I think I am going with four just to keep the one pump to the front from burning up. I am looking at it so I will not have to by a new motor in a couple of months. I hope this set-up will be robust enough to handle my switch-throwing...

For what it's worth. Some people do 4 or even 6 pumps to the front (6 or 8 pump set-ups) just to grill fools at red lights. I don't think 6 pumps is the way I am going to go, but seeing an S-10 do a four foot hop from rest is a jaw-dropping event no matter how you look at it.

Neverfinished,
Thnks for the help as well. 4 pumps is sounding right. What do you think, 12 batteries? or 16? I am getting serious about this, so I might as well do it right.

EyePoppin · 02-12-2004, 11:30 AM

I thnik someone is filling ure head with BS. All you need for your "Switch Throwing" is 2 pumps, u will have 3 wheel and u will need spindles to lay frame.

4 pumps is way over kill for what u want to do....but to each is his own, i say, unless u have an old skool low rider, 4 pumps if a waste of money and a waste of time,

Thetwiztidklown · 02-12-2004, 12:40 PM

i would go with a 4 pump setup like neverfinished94 said and i like pro-hopper to and know people who run cce and like it but most of it depends on the install if you run 4 pump and a chain bridge you can do a standing 3 three plus have side to side if you run a 3 pump 4 dump you can still do a standing three wheel but not side to side and a 2 pump you can only do three wheel if you drive in circle and dump one back wheel or less you do a 2 pump 8 dump setup which will give you all the moves of a 4 pump setup up its up to you what you want i run my setup 12 volts so i never charge batteries and dont have to worry to much about burning a motor up but you can buy a street charger if you dont want to charge batteries but i am not in to fast i have a 2 pump 4 dump setup with 2 switches and rides better then all my friends bags

RikuY · 02-12-2004, 04:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by EyePoppin

I thnik someone is filling ure head with BS. All you need for your "Switch Throwing" is 2 pumps, u will have 3 wheel and u will need spindles to lay frame.

4 pumps is way over kill for what u want to do....but to each is his own, i say, unless u have an old skool low rider, 4 pumps if a waste of money and a waste of time,

I already have the spindles as I drag frame now with my bags... I know what you're saying about the "need" 4 pumps, but I don't "need" any of this. Good lookin out though...

neverfinished94 · 02-12-2004, 09:24 PM

if it were my truck i would just run a 2/4 with 4 batteries. the guy said money's no object and he wants to do all the moves. that sounds like a 4/4 to me. if you want to hop then the more batt's the better. even with 8 batt's you're gonna be fast and hop. 16 batt's is crazy

LAID OUT CUSTOMS · 02-13-2004, 12:31 AM

Im not tryin to sound like a dick man but what does it matter what we would do its your truck do what you want to do.

hydraulics and bags are both the shit properly setup they can both ride great or hop 4' so when it comes down to it its your truck do what you want

RikuY · 02-13-2004, 10:47 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by LAID OUT CUSTOMS

Im not tryin to sound like a dick man but what does it matter what we would do its your truck do what you want to do.

hydraulics and bags are both the shit properly setup they can both ride great or hop 4' so when it comes down to it its your truck do what you want

You know... One of the great benefits of talking on a forum like this is to get ideas. More input and viewpoints into my head about my situation helps me see different things I would not have thought of on my own. This is why I posted a question like this. You don't sound like a dick, but if you don't want to answer the question, thanks for reading anyway.

Have a nice day...

Tandem-Madness · 02-14-2004, 08:13 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by EyePoppin

I thnik someone is filling ure head with BS. All you need for your "Switch Throwing" is 2 pumps, u will have 3 wheel and u will need spindles to lay frame.

Eyepopin, your sorta right. Yes with 2 pumps and 4 dumps, you will have the abilty to 3 wheel motion, but to have a standing 3 wheel, you need 3 pumps, with a chain bridge, or 4 pumps to control each wheel individually.

haktup · 02-19-2004, 11:53 AM

Not really you could do standing 3 with 2 pumps if you chain bridge it and set it up properly. However if money is not a problem I would go with 4 simply to keep things looking equal I would run no more than 8 batteries make sure to run prestolite blocks. I personally would only run 48 volts but you could run more I just don't like what higher voltage does to stuff start blowing solenoids and pump just not fun! and with 48 volts you can hop. but if you want big air run more.

haktup · 02-19-2004, 12:03 PM

OH YEAH just so you know just because you have 4 pumps doesn't mean you can stand 3 without a chain bridge I did a 99 extreme that stood three but not with out a chain I tryed all kinds of tricks just would not do it they rebuilt it a couple of winters ago using 2x6x1/4 square tube stands on it own now but wheigh 4 tons tanks aren't BUILT AS HEAVILY AS THIS DUDES TRUCK. All though he did inquire about body dropping it.

EyePoppin · 02-19-2004, 12:15 PM

RIKUY do u want to do a stand ing 3 wheel?

blazentrout · 02-20-2004, 07:20 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by haktup

OH YEAH just so you know just because you have 4 pumps doesn't mean you can stand 3 without a chain bridge I did a 99 extreme that stood three but not with out a chain I tryed all kinds of tricks just would not do it they rebuilt it a couple of winters ago using 2x6x1/4 square tube stands on it own now but wheigh 4 tons tanks aren't BUILT AS HEAVILY AS THIS DUDES TRUCK. All though he did inquire about body dropping it.

thats the one with eddy on the hood, correct? i am of the 4 pump/8 battery settup my self with every thing set as far back in the truck as you can.

RikuY · 02-20-2004, 10:13 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by EyePoppin

RIKUY do u want to do a stand ing 3 wheel?

Why yes... yes I do...
I just talked to my friend last night and we are ripping off the cab and bed and boxing in and reinforcing the entire frame rail. A couple of extra crossmembers are coming into play as well. You guys have started to sway my thinking though. I may finish my truck with Suicidedoors new cantilever kit for the S-10. I might have to go old skool Caddy for some juice.
I am still rocking my monoleaf set-up in the rear, but that is the only thing not done on my truck. That new kit should be nice from Suicidedoors. I am starting to like the idea of a finished truck and moving on to something else. That way, I will be down with air and juice...
Sounds good to me...

haktup · 02-23-2004, 01:20 PM

yes trout that is the truck all eight batteries when in the back it just did not want to stand.

02-10-2004, 04:50 PM	#1
RikuY Rollin Car Club Age: 31 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 214 Location: Ft. Myers, FL User is: OffLine	What would you do? I am looking for ideas for my truck. It's on bags now with some 18'&20's. I want to do some juice and serious juice at that. What kind of a set-up would you do. Money don't matter, but be realistic (as in no 20 pump set-ups). I need to three-wheel, and drag frame. Already has monster notch in back. What would the set-up be for 18's all the way around? What would it be for 13X7's all the way around? Let me have it... Thanks to all the replies in advance...
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02-10-2004, 06:51 PM	#2
neverfinished94 lays frame on 22's Age: 30 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,478 Location: tx User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? a 4 pump 4 dump setup would be very clean and you would be able to do any move you wanted to. i would run at least 6 batteries but 8 if you had the room. i would stick with pro hopper or cce. i personally like pro hopper. havent had any experience with hi lo though. i saw a pic of someones setup on the forum and it was VERY clean. im sure if you looked thru the posts you would find it. lata
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02-11-2004, 01:11 AM	#3
NoDime4myTime dont be a pussy Age: 26 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 315 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? 4 pumps is a waste of money, you can do all the stuff with 3 that you can do with 4, save a couple pennies and room.
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02-11-2004, 08:28 PM	#4
neverfinished94 lays frame on 22's Age: 30 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,478 Location: tx User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? can you lift each individual corner?
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02-12-2004, 02:52 AM	#5
NoDime4myTime dont be a pussy Age: 26 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 315 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? no, but you can set it up to lift individual fronts or backs, control of lifting individual corners is kinda retarted, either do a stand 3 or a standing dog leg.
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02-12-2004, 10:17 AM	#6
RikuY Rollin Car Club Age: 31 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 214 Location: Ft. Myers, FL User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? Quote: Originally Posted by NoDime4myTime no, but you can set it up to lift individual fronts or backs, control of lifting individual corners is kinda retarted, either do a stand 3 or a standing dog leg. Thanks for your input. Two pumps to the front is faster, given batteries are doubled. Also, I think I am going with four just to keep the one pump to the front from burning up. I am looking at it so I will not have to by a new motor in a couple of months. I hope this set-up will be robust enough to handle my switch-throwing... For what it's worth. Some people do 4 or even 6 pumps to the front (6 or 8 pump set-ups) just to grill fools at red lights. I don't think 6 pumps is the way I am going to go, but seeing an S-10 do a four foot hop from rest is a jaw-dropping event no matter how you look at it. Neverfinished, Thnks for the help as well. 4 pumps is sounding right. What do you think, 12 batteries? or 16? I am getting serious about this, so I might as well do it right.
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02-12-2004, 11:30 AM	#7
EyePoppin Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,825 Location: Grand Rapids, MI User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? I thnik someone is filling ure head with BS. All you need for your "Switch Throwing" is 2 pumps, u will have 3 wheel and u will need spindles to lay frame. 4 pumps is way over kill for what u want to do....but to each is his own, i say, unless u have an old skool low rider, 4 pumps if a waste of money and a waste of time, Last edited by EyePoppin : 02-12-2004 at 11:33 AM.
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02-12-2004, 12:40 PM	#8
Thetwiztidklown Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 55 Location: Cincinnati Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? i would go with a 4 pump setup like neverfinished94 said and i like pro-hopper to and know people who run cce and like it but most of it depends on the install if you run 4 pump and a chain bridge you can do a standing 3 three plus have side to side if you run a 3 pump 4 dump you can still do a standing three wheel but not side to side and a 2 pump you can only do three wheel if you drive in circle and dump one back wheel or less you do a 2 pump 8 dump setup which will give you all the moves of a 4 pump setup up its up to you what you want i run my setup 12 volts so i never charge batteries and dont have to worry to much about burning a motor up but you can buy a street charger if you dont want to charge batteries but i am not in to fast i have a 2 pump 4 dump setup with 2 switches and rides better then all my friends bags
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02-12-2004, 04:09 PM	#9
RikuY Rollin Car Club Age: 31 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 214 Location: Ft. Myers, FL User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? Quote: Originally Posted by EyePoppin I thnik someone is filling ure head with BS. All you need for your "Switch Throwing" is 2 pumps, u will have 3 wheel and u will need spindles to lay frame. 4 pumps is way over kill for what u want to do....but to each is his own, i say, unless u have an old skool low rider, 4 pumps if a waste of money and a waste of time, I already have the spindles as I drag frame now with my bags... I know what you're saying about the "need" 4 pumps, but I don't "need" any of this. Good lookin out though...
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02-12-2004, 09:24 PM	#10
neverfinished94 lays frame on 22's Age: 30 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,478 Location: tx User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? if it were my truck i would just run a 2/4 with 4 batteries. the guy said money's no object and he wants to do all the moves. that sounds like a 4/4 to me. if you want to hop then the more batt's the better. even with 8 batt's you're gonna be fast and hop. 16 batt's is crazy
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02-13-2004, 12:31 AM	#11
LAID OUT CUSTOMS Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? Im not tryin to sound like a dick man but what does it matter what we would do its your truck do what you want to do. hydraulics and bags are both the shit properly setup they can both ride great or hop 4' so when it comes down to it its your truck do what you want
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02-13-2004, 10:47 AM	#12
RikuY Rollin Car Club Age: 31 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 214 Location: Ft. Myers, FL User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? Quote: Originally Posted by LAID OUT CUSTOMS Im not tryin to sound like a dick man but what does it matter what we would do its your truck do what you want to do. hydraulics and bags are both the shit properly setup they can both ride great or hop 4' so when it comes down to it its your truck do what you want You know... One of the great benefits of talking on a forum like this is to get ideas. More input and viewpoints into my head about my situation helps me see different things I would not have thought of on my own. This is why I posted a question like this. You don't sound like a dick, but if you don't want to answer the question, thanks for reading anyway. Have a nice day...
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02-14-2004, 08:13 AM	#13
Tandem-Madness Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 185 Location: Ridgely, MD User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? Quote: Originally Posted by EyePoppin I thnik someone is filling ure head with BS. All you need for your "Switch Throwing" is 2 pumps, u will have 3 wheel and u will need spindles to lay frame. Eyepopin, your sorta right. Yes with 2 pumps and 4 dumps, you will have the abilty to 3 wheel motion, but to have a standing 3 wheel, you need 3 pumps, with a chain bridge, or 4 pumps to control each wheel individually.
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02-19-2004, 11:53 AM	#14
haktup not a such a fatso anymor Age: 35 Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 883 Location: grand rapids, mi User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? Not really you could do standing 3 with 2 pumps if you chain bridge it and set it up properly. However if money is not a problem I would go with 4 simply to keep things looking equal I would run no more than 8 batteries make sure to run prestolite blocks. I personally would only run 48 volts but you could run more I just don't like what higher voltage does to stuff start blowing solenoids and pump just not fun! and with 48 volts you can hop. but if you want big air run more.
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02-19-2004, 12:03 PM	#15
haktup not a such a fatso anymor Age: 35 Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 883 Location: grand rapids, mi User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? OH YEAH just so you know just because you have 4 pumps doesn't mean you can stand 3 without a chain bridge I did a 99 extreme that stood three but not with out a chain I tryed all kinds of tricks just would not do it they rebuilt it a couple of winters ago using 2x6x1/4 square tube stands on it own now but wheigh 4 tons tanks aren't BUILT AS HEAVILY AS THIS DUDES TRUCK. All though he did inquire about body dropping it.
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02-19-2004, 12:15 PM	#16
EyePoppin Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,825 Location: Grand Rapids, MI User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? RIKUY do u want to do a stand ing 3 wheel?
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02-20-2004, 07:20 AM	#17
blazentrout Mad man from michigan Age: 34 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 264 Location: grand rapids michigan User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? Quote: Originally Posted by haktup OH YEAH just so you know just because you have 4 pumps doesn't mean you can stand 3 without a chain bridge I did a 99 extreme that stood three but not with out a chain I tryed all kinds of tricks just would not do it they rebuilt it a couple of winters ago using 2x6x1/4 square tube stands on it own now but wheigh 4 tons tanks aren't BUILT AS HEAVILY AS THIS DUDES TRUCK. All though he did inquire about body dropping it. thats the one with eddy on the hood, correct? i am of the 4 pump/8 battery settup my self with every thing set as far back in the truck as you can.
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02-20-2004, 10:13 AM	#18
RikuY Rollin Car Club Age: 31 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 214 Location: Ft. Myers, FL User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? Quote: Originally Posted by EyePoppin RIKUY do u want to do a stand ing 3 wheel? Why yes... yes I do... I just talked to my friend last night and we are ripping off the cab and bed and boxing in and reinforcing the entire frame rail. A couple of extra crossmembers are coming into play as well. You guys have started to sway my thinking though. I may finish my truck with Suicidedoors new cantilever kit for the S-10. I might have to go old skool Caddy for some juice. I am still rocking my monoleaf set-up in the rear, but that is the only thing not done on my truck. That new kit should be nice from Suicidedoors. I am starting to like the idea of a finished truck and moving on to something else. That way, I will be down with air and juice... Sounds good to me...
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02-23-2004, 01:20 PM	#19
haktup not a such a fatso anymor Age: 35 Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 883 Location: grand rapids, mi User is: OffLine	Re: What would you do? yes trout that is the truck all eight batteries when in the back it just did not want to stand.
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