Update on my hydro install......new pics.

[ZEROpsi]

Ok, so ive been postin some pics of my recent hydro install on my truck, and also have been smoothing out the bed and re-sheetmetaling it. so lets recap.

This is the new suspension i did in the rear it consists of
6" Chrome Cylinders in front
10" Chrome Cylinders in rear
3/4 Ton Mini Coils/ With Custom Machined spring cups out of 3" Round Aluminum stock.
Tri-4 Link
Maltese Cross Pump Plates
Pro-Ball Setup on Axle.
Two Prohopper Pumps
Two Prohopper Dumps
Two Prohopper Accumulators
All Stainless Steel Braided Lines
All chrome plated fittings

Pics.




Ok now on to the bed. I re-sheet metald' the bed with 16gauge , installed trailer fenders for wheel tubs, smoothed the sides of the bed into the inside of the bed.

For the electrical side of my Hydro install i used the following:
4-Stinger Dry Cell batteries, Very small in size, but very powerfull, 1200CCA
All Chrome Street Charger. (charges my batteries while i drive)
All stinger Platinum connections
Stinger LED battery monitors, to show the voltage of each bank.
Stinger 0/1 gauge wire.
3 Accurate Selinoids per Pump.
Two Aluminum Quick Disconnect Switches, instead of them ugly pull apart cables that alot of people run.
Stinger Weather Proof Grommets
Finally i Sprayed a rhino liner in the bed to finish it off.

Pics


if you have any questions or comments please post, hate at your own will.

taylor

[ZEROpsi]

more pics

[neverfinished94]

thats one of the nicest setups i've ever seen. good job

[Baggd]

looks good.you using acqmulators?

[Baggd]

duhh just answered my own question. im retarded.

[NoDime4myTime]

2 dumps? meaning one per pump? you runnin a sway bar in the front to accomodate for the lean? looks clean.

[ZEROpsi]

Quote:

2 dumps? meaning one per pump? you runnin a sway bar in the front to accomodate for the lean? looks clean.

for sure, i wouldnt take my sway bar out if i were running 4 dumps, i just dont like the ride without it, and im not interested in sides and all that shieat. Im runnin one line up front to the cylinders then using a bulkhead on the firewall then branching to each cylinder from thare so each cylinder has the same amount of fluid on each side, to try to cut down on fluid transfer around corners.

taylor

[heresdamanladies]

looks real good good job

[blazentrout]

looks good. 2 ? do you have shocks on the back? why such heavy coils?

[EyePoppin]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZEROpsi

for sure, i wouldnt take my sway bar out if i were running 4 dumps, i just dont like the ride without it, and im not interested in sides and all that shieat. Im runnin one line up front to the cylinders then using a bulkhead on the firewall then branching to each cylinder from thare so each cylinder has the same amount of fluid on each side, to try to cut down on fluid transfer around corners.

taylor

U shouldnt have a problem with fluid transfer around corners, its not like u are going to be 1. 3 wheelin the corner, or 2. taking a corner at 50.

[ZEROpsi]

yea, i dont think i will have any problem with fluid transfer, i just wanted to eliminate it for the most part, just for a better overall ride.

Yea, and i dont think 3/4 ton is too stiff of a spring for the back of a s10, i mean, im only runnin half a stack on each side, and have quite a bit of extra weight in the bed now, like batteries and pumps, i think 3/4 is about right, cut in half of course. And no im not runnin shocks, just pumps/spring/accumulators.

taylor

[NoDime4myTime]

Quote: Originally Posted by EyePoppin

U shouldnt have a problem with fluid transfer around corners, its not like u are going to be 1. 3 wheelin the corner, or 2. taking a corner at 50.

without a swaybar it is a huge issue, by brother had a cutlass with 1 pump 1 dump to the front and 1 pump 1 dump the ass, and turning into a drive way at 2 mph the thing seriously hit a side pulling in to the driveway and had to be lifted all the way back up everytime he turned lol it sucked. sorry to hijack the thread.

[jaguarnoma]

cool!!!
nice set up

[EyePoppin]

Quote: Originally Posted by NoDime4myTime

without a swaybar it is a huge issue, by brother had a cutlass with 1 pump 1 dump to the front and 1 pump 1 dump the ass, and turning into a drive way at 2 mph the thing seriously hit a side pulling in to the driveway and had to be lifted all the way back up everytime he turned lol it sucked. sorry to hijack the thread.

I never had 1 pump 1 dump setup when i had dros, but now that i have bags, and i have F B when i turn a corner, i dont have a prob, prolly cuz i have a sway bar.

[blazentrout]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZEROpsi

yea, i dont think i will have any problem with fluid transfer, i just wanted to eliminate it for the most part, just for a better overall ride.

Yea, and i dont think 3/4 ton is too stiff of a spring for the back of a s10, i mean, im only runnin half a stack on each side, and have quite a bit of extra weight in the bed now, like batteries and pumps, i think 3/4 is about right, cut in half of course. And no im not runnin shocks, just pumps/spring/accumulators.

taylor

the only reson i asked is i was running 250lbs/in ones in mine compared to your 1500lbs/in ones you are running in yours, i would think it would want to bounce a lot more.

[heresdamanladies]

my sway bar is cut off i didnt do it though Jason

[HelloS10]

Zeropsi- how much does those street chargers run? how well do they work, for those who have run them?

[EyePoppin]

Quote: Originally Posted by blazentrout

the only reson i asked is i was running 250lbs/in ones in mine compared to your 1500lbs/in ones you are running in yours, i would think it would want to bounce a lot more.

Ure blaz rode good too. I thought, smack me if im wrong, if u have a 3/4 ton coil and u cut it, it makes it stiffer, like a 1 ton coil then....

*Eyepoppin gets ready for the smack in the back of the head

[heresdamanladies]

looks real good got a quick question though your running to grounds right so u got 2 banks of batteries?
so is it a 24 volt system am i right? how do you have the battery connected pos to neg right? thx jason

[EyePoppin]

If those are 12 volt batteries yes it is 2 banks of 24 volts.

[ZEROpsi]

yea them are 12v batteries, and i am running two 24v banks.

taylor

[haktup]

fluid transfer is a big problem with one dump on each. Kia's cavy proves that eyepoppin. I am going to help him add 2 more dumps before it goes back out..

[haktup]

sway bar should minimize that though.

[heresdamanladies]

cool thx

[neverfinished94]

zeropsi

whats the link to your cardomain page?

[blazentrout]

Quote: Originally Posted by EyePoppin

Ure blaz rode good too. I thought, smack me if im wrong, if u have a 3/4 ton coil and u cut it, it makes it stiffer, like a 1 ton coil then....

*Eyepoppin gets ready for the smack in the back of the head

this is a very good ?. what a lot of people think is when you cut a coil spring that it gets stiffer, this is not the case. all you did was remove stock which means that you have less coil hieght to asorb the bump in the road. it still takes the same lbs per inch to compress it 1"

[wmrodncustom]

i agree with you trout!! i know exactly what your saying. in most cases i run 1/4-1/2 ton coils in the back with as much coil for suspension absorbment as possible. a mini truck doesnt weigh in at 2 grand to the ass why set it up like it is? it will ride like shit. in taylors case he got accumulators which in turn will help get rid of that but again was pretty well pointless seens how its not on a strutted car. therefore wasted a couple hundred dollars... thereas didnt do too much home work.
hereby again running 2 dumps without a sway bar means total body roll around corners. and chances highly of risk of roll depending on speeds. meaning nothing to stabilize his ride. nothing i would take a ride in over 10mph.


hakt up.......if kia needs dumps still p/m me i have one delta with a check valve and if you have a spare stem, i have the rest for a second. willing to trade for 94 up dime body panels to get my 02 back out.

[ZEROpsi]

you must not of read the post above, i AM running a sway bar up front man, come on read a little here. And while were on the topic of body roll here, another way i am helping eliminate it is only running one line up to the front of the truck and at the firewall using a bulkhead and t'ing it thare with a line to each cylinder, tharefore cutting down on the abount of fluid there is to transfer between the cylinders.

But what your saying tho is that accumulators are only usefull on strutted vehicles????.....your gonna have to xplain that better. Because that whole post you posted above thare totally contradicts what the tech support at CCE told me, they reccomended that i do run 3/4 ton minicoils in the rear of my truck, as well as the accumulators to achieve the ride i was looking for. Maybee the they dont know what their talkin about tho, i guess. right?

taylor

[Layd Dly]

definatley pimp....way clean juice setup....thats exactly what i like to see not some crappy 2 am juice install...thats exactly how id run my ish coils and accums....only way to get a good ride...

[wmrodncustom]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZEROpsi

, another way i am helping eliminate it is only running one line up to the front of the truck and at the firewall using a bulkhead and t'ing it thare with a line to each cylinder, tharefore cutting down on the abount of fluid there is to transfer between the cylinders.

totally meaningless. all one dump front or back kits come this way. its great to hear your running a sway bay though.

Quote: Originally Posted by ZEROpsi

, But what your saying tho is that accumulators are only usefull on strutted vehicles????.....your gonna have to xplain that better. Because that whole post you posted above thare totally contradicts what the tech support at CCE told me, they reccomended that i do run 3/4 ton minicoils in the rear of my truck, as well as the accumulators to achieve the ride i was looking for. Maybee the they dont know what their talkin about tho, i guess. right?

taylor

I am stating this. yes the combo works.........my question to you is why? i didnt say there for only a strutted car. im saying they are worthess to something you can choose a proper spring rating on. if you chose the right spring rating. and had the right coil height. you would ride like stock in the rear. the 3/4 tons with no accumulator are going to ride like a brick. so you saved yourself the agony going with accumulators. now you could have never even used the spring or your extra cost mini coil over cups. now just because you talked to cool cars direct does not mean they will neccisarily feed you the right info. its called upselling. or excuse me upgrading. the only one down there that has it right is colin. that doesnt mean he wouldnt sell you accumulators. if i owned my own hydro company i would too. especially right now when the hydro demand is way down. its a shame you didnt purchase the 2 pump street kit all at once though you would have gotten all 4 dumps and saved approximately $200 on that alone.....making up for the cost of your accumulators. and there would never be a body roll factor in play. my question to you taylor, your going to run your sway bar and plan on laying body on 20's.....it can be done but have you done all the propper fabrication to your frame and your suspension components needed to make it actually happen?

[wmrodncustom]

Quote: Originally Posted by Layd Dly

thats exactly how id run my ish coils and accums....only way to get a good ride...

I challenge your statement there. is that proven or is that your opinion? I think there are a few on here that will back me on my statement about proper spring rate.

[Layd Dly]

purely an oppinion have u ever read my sig lately maybe you should check it out sometime.

[wmrodncustom]

Quote: Originally Posted by Layd Dly

purely an oppinion have u ever read my sig lately maybe you should check it out sometime.

good one just curious though as to why you would even consider running accumulators anyways when if you go with the right spring it will ride like stock? im just challenging your opinion just kind of curious why you would want to throw away a couple hundred when not really needed thats all?

[ZEROpsi]

Quote:

I am stating this. yes the combo works.........my question to you is why? i didnt say there for only a strutted car. im saying they are worthess to something you can choose a proper spring rating on. if you chose the right spring rating. and had the right coil height. you would ride like stock in the rear. the 3/4 tons with no accumulator are going to ride like a brick. so you saved yourself the agony going with accumulators. now you could have never even used the spring or your extra cost mini coil over cups. now just because you talked to cool cars direct does not mean they will neccisarily feed you the right info. its called upselling. or excuse me upgrading. the only one down there that has it right is colin. that doesnt mean he wouldnt sell you accumulators. if i owned my own hydro company i would too. especially right now when the hydro demand is way down. its a shame you didnt purchase the 2 pump street kit all at once though you would have gotten all 4 dumps and saved approximately $200 on that alone.....making up for the cost of your accumulators. and there would never be a body roll factor in play. my question to you taylor, your going to run your sway bar and plan on laying body on 20's.....it can be done but have you done all the propper fabrication to your frame and your suspension components needed to make it actually happen?

se now that whole up-selling deal would make sence, but the story is i called CCE tec support, but..........i wasnt purchasing CCE equipment, i got prohopper???. And yes, the kit i did order was a 4 dump kit, but the other two dumps are currently on my golf cart. (and she gets wiked air ) The bottom line i guess on this is, so we dont have to keep argueing here on who does their stuff perfect, cus this probably would go on forever, you do your things your way, and other people do it their way. What the fuk ever, wether CCE was trying to up-sell me prohopper equip or not, i trust their judgement.

Oh and the 20's are deff not going to happen this year, i just bought a new house a few months ago, (for the second time damnit) and i just bought a new truck last week, so the 20 fund dwindled away............unless you count the 20's on my new dodge pickup??? bot most the mods to the firewall and frame are allready done, i think all i would have left to do is rework my a-arms a little and relocate my clutch resivuar, but im just gonna stick with 18's for this year probably, if i can save enough over the summer i will.


taylor

[EyePoppin]

Quote: Originally Posted by wmrodncustom

I challenge your statement there. is that proven or is that your opinion? I think there are a few on here that will back me on my statement about proper spring rate.

In theory you are correct, there are also a few on here that will call you a tool also.

I can tell u the reason why he did it right now.

Because it is HIS truck.

I really hate how the same 2 people give taylor shit in every post that he posts here. This is not the place or the time for it. Please quit givin him shit, i dont feel like being a referee anymore.

[ZEROpsi]

yea, thats just how they are man, it will never change. I never follow them around and give them shit about what they post on other topics or anything, fuk im over the little beef thing we had goin on between us, i dont think they have quite gotten over it yet tho. wonder why?? oh well, what can ya do, some people never grow up.

taylor

[wmrodncustom]

never said i had any beef dude. I was purely asking questions thats all. If you ever have any questions or anything at all about soem things to lay your truck down on the ground with dubs just give me a shout. i'd be more than happy to offer any kind of help.

j.r. i am not going out and bashing taylor. i am helping him out by allowing him to know whats going to happen if this and that is or isnt done. how is that bashing on someone. when i said thats great he's going to run a sway bar..... how is that bashing him? when i said the accumulators will get rid of the harsh ride 3/4 ton springs give you this also isnt bashing on him.
so let it be known taylor. this is no beef. im merely trying to help you out. thats all.

j/r im going to say this nicely. lol suck it lol dont take it personal dude. that was a joke lol.

[NoDime4myTime]

Quote: Originally Posted by EyePoppin

I really hate how the same 2 people give taylor shit in every post that he posts here. This is not the place or the time for it. Please quit givin him shit, i dont feel like being a referee anymore.

I know your refering to me, read back, I am not giving him shit, or do I give him shit in all of his posts. I was just making sure he knew the outcome of running 1 dump to the front and 1 to the back. dont be a tool.

[EyePoppin]

Quote: Originally Posted by wmrodncustom

j/r im going to say this nicely. lol suck it lol dont take it personal dude. that was a joke lol.

I think u need to calm ure little attitude down.

[haktup]

let's calm down and knock off the hibity nibity jibity you know what I am saying? CASUE I DON"T hehehe

[haktup]

OH B.T.W. that is a very very clean looking set up I like it alot keep up the good work.

[wmrodncustom]

I didnt know i was being hostile? if anyone who is an outsider reads, it looks like im the one getting an additude pushed at. Im offering advice and being told off for doing so. so im going to say this. im not going to get involved in any topics any of you are in......j/r taylor, big j, trout. all of you seem to have some snowed in im mad at the world because i cannot do shit blues. so im out if i post in a thread or start a topic, i ask of all of you to stay out of mine no matter if you ahve something to say that would help me out. i dont need help from bad tempered people. just remember most of you are locals. on the net you can act like an ass, im an ass on the net and in person hehe.

[blazentrout]

Quote: Originally Posted by wmrodncustom

I didnt know i was being hostile? if anyone who is an outsider reads, it looks like im the one getting an additude pushed at. Im offering advice and being told off for doing so. so im going to say this. im not going to get involved in any topics any of you are in......j/r taylor, big j, trout. all of you seem to have some snowed in im mad at the world because i cannot do shit blues. so im out if i post in a thread or start a topic, i ask of all of you to stay out of mine no matter if you ahve something to say that would help me out. i dont need help from bad tempered people. just remember most of you are locals. on the net you can act like an ass, im an ass on the net and in person hehe.

dont get your panty's in a bind Rick.

[EyePoppin]

OKAY --
/rant

Rick i already explained my reasonings to you. I am not throwing just u attitude, When Big J was here and he was advertising ask him what i did to him. I dont pick favorites here. I just keep the place running smooth.

I am BY NO MEANS telling you to stop posing here in juicin it. I love that people are posting here, keep posting, keep threads alive, make new ones.

I will ask 1 last time to EVERYONE (Big J, Trout, Chad, Rick, Taylor, Rikuy, ETC ETC ETC) if you have a problem with a member please pm them, dont get it all in public so other people can feed the fire.

There were problems between Chad, Rick, and Taylor, i know that, hopefully it is all worked out so we dont need to keep doing all this bs.

Anyone who thinks i have an attitude, i am sorry, i do not have an attitude, i am just trying to keep this place clean and clear of BS.

/endrant

[7585]

Nice Rant and right on point. I agree and will try my best to keep it on topic and only help people if I can, not offer my useless point of view to someone just to post. Thank you...

[haktup]

wait wait wait I just wanted every one to calm down I never said anyones name! Let's not start bashing me normally I love a fight but I didn't want to see one with michigan folk. Also I don't have a problem WITH ANYONE! even if I am in a flame war it is just in fun I take non of it personal I mean come on it is just talk get over it.

[pOrk]

CRY?

Icebreaker - its a bad ass truck. It was last year when it was on air and it is this year on juice. He is running with 2 dumps. SWEEET!!! Its his truck and he is doing it the way he wants. AWESOME. Taylor is a pimp and all of you are his hoes.

Hit em up

[heresdamanladies]

hey any more progress? new pics or anything? thx Jason

[Dragginbody]

nice setup. more pics!

[low84s10]

I would like to see a bigger view of the rear setup with the powerballs. I have seen them on some the hydro sites but never really understood how to set them up.