My rant.

[Long Roof]

It really pisses me off when people have an opinion on hydraulics when they've never dealt with them. People tell me how superior bags are, when they have never been around them either. I tell people I'm planning on putting hydraulics on my truck and they look at me like I'm stupid. People need to get educated or shut the hell up. Ok... I'm done.

[HighrollerII]

i prefer bags over hydros...i just like how a bag system operates over a hydro one and ive never owned a hydro setup, and prolly never will...plus i love the pppppshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sound when u lay it out ...cant get that from hydros

reguardless, i still respect the work that goes into both

[2 LayLo]

Ive never ran a juice set up but would like to...on 2 of my trucks ive went with air ride...Juice has came such a far away with the powerballs and new technology i see not one problem with a juice set up...

[Long Roof]

People just hear horror stories about hydros... But the samething can happen with bags. It just depends on the install. People assume its the install when it's bags and if its a problem with hydraulics its not the install it's just the hydraulics.

[purevil115]

ok I have riden in a older car with hydralics and it was really bouncy so I have been complaining about hydro since then. Please educate me about hydros and the correct way to make it work and perfrom well. that and hydro leaks suck(we had one) while my air leaks just leak out air and make a sound doesnt stain anything

[juiced93]

Quote: Originally Posted by purevil115

that and hydro leaks suck(we had one) while my air leaks just leak out air and make a sound doesnt stain anything

yeah but when juice leaks i know where it comes from when air leaks you look retarded listening for the leak

[ryan l]

all depends on how you set it up ive had both air and juice . both are good setups if built right . juice is ganster as shit nothing like a couple licks of the switch to get a couple feet of air .

[Slammed03]

Quote: Originally Posted by juiced93

yeah but when juice leaks i know where it comes from when air leaks you look retarded listening for the leak

yeh but at least with air bags there isnt a puddle of fluid when you got a leek so it doesnt get as messy...also i have see many hydro setups catch on fire but never seen bags catch on fire...but none the less i will juice a vehicle one day. i think hydros have its pros and cons but so do air...

[HighrollerII]

i too have heard of 2 hydro'd rides around here catching on fire

[juiced93]

Quote: Originally Posted by HighrollerII

i too have heard of 2 hydro'd rides around here catching on fire

nothing puts out a good hydro fire like ice cold mountian dew if you dont beleive me you can ask my boy brandon we where rollin 4 pumps on s-10s in the streets of charleston a few years back. Before draggin' was gettin big we were draggin' body rear quarters but still body.

[Slammed03]

Quote: Originally Posted by juiced93

nothing puts out a good hydro fire like ice cold mountian dew if you dont beleive me you can ask my boy brandon we where rollin 4 pumps on s-10s in the streets of charleston a few years back. Before draggin' was gettin big we were draggin' body rear quarters but still body.

hahaha...yeh but then when you get the fire out you have to clean up the sticky soda thats all over everything... IMO that would suck ass

[juiced93]

degresser and a pressure washer works great

[Independent]

Hydros are the better setup to me. I don't like the sound of bags, the sound of the compressors, etc. Hydraulics, set up correctly, can ride better than air, and more efficient. There should be no leaks in a properly maintained setup, and hydraulic fires are the result of beating up on your setup. Every setup should be built for the vehicle they are going on, and built specifically for whatever your intentions are.

[purevil115]

ok so please tell us what the correct setup for an s10 would be, nothing like hopping just simple things like up and down and side to side. Whats the best way to get it to ride soft and without any bounce and whats all the parts that go into this setup I dont know alot about hydro, lik etell me the parts and what they do

[AndrewH]

well with hydros you can be like 90% of the users are and and just follow everyone else and have old technology and inferior quality,or you can use your own ideas and ideas from other industries and actualy think of reasons why and how things will and can work. I dont think I've done a single install that was compleetly orthodox by hydro standards. thats why CCE has a bad rep in the lowrider world, they had some original ideas, and if they didnt come from the west coast, eveyone thinks its just dumb crap when it actually is technology worth using. People in the hydro world stumble across things like powerballs and acummulators like its the best thing ever, but if they would have looked into other industries a long time ago, the technology has always been there and should have been obvious. Thats the main lacking in the lowrider area of the auto customization field.

[Slammed03]

i thought cce had a good rep. in the lowrider world?...i'm bagged so i wouldnt know i have just always see thier shit on a lot of cars in lowrider mag. and on all the cars around here juiced but that could be because cool cars is here in ky...i donno..

[orangesonoma]

i have worked on both and love both...but both setups can go crazy wrong if done incorrect..

[5.74x4]

i'm on hydros and love them. i just got done redoingt he rear with a link and accumulators and although i havent put many miles on it yet i can tell it rides tons better and i still havent got the shocks installed.

[smoothsdime1998]

It really pisses me off when people have an opinion on hydraulics when they've never dealt with them. People tell me how superior bags are, when they have never been around them either. I tell people I'm planning on putting hydraulics on my truck and they look at me like I'm stupid. People need to get educated or shut the hell up. Ok... I'm done.

this is true, lowrider magazine got me into the scene im in today its my roots. yea i lean towards having bags today yea i guess im a trader or whatever but having them on a DD with many miles each day and all the technology behind these system designed specifically for the dime its way more convienent and i know someones going to disagree but cleaner install's result with bags for sure.

all in all i would pretty much rate them equal no matter what anyones say bags can do what hydro's can do and hydro's can do what bags do with both crucially needing a professional and or done correctly install to your specific needs.

so you can say your rant and what ever because when you have this guy who has admittedly not had much expereince with bags and can tell me how superior hydro's are you need to see our side also

Quote: Originally Posted by Independent

Hydros are the better setup to me. I don't like the sound of bags, the sound of the compressors, etc. Hydraulics, set up correctly, can ride better than air, and more efficient. There should be no leaks in a properly maintained setup, and hydraulic fires are the result of beating up on your setup. Every setup should be built for the vehicle they are going on, and built specifically for whatever your intentions are.

[AmDD]

around here everyone assumes i have hydros, its like no one even knows what bags are. its hydro this, hydro that.... kinda bugs me when i have to explain the differences all the time. i've never been in a s10 with hydros, but there are pro's and cons to both setups.

[70CHEVY327]

ok not to piss you off or any thing but people probly like bags cause there easy i under stand hydros i took a class in school they are a pain to figure out way to much math way to many thing to go wrong

now im not saying that there bad id never put them on my truck nor would i bag my truck i have a 4x4 even tho i have thought about it you could do some cool stuff with hydro when wheeling but there just something else to break

[smoothsdime1998]

lol too much math involved thats funny and both involve tons of math the only difference is how the suspension is activated. many use link type suspenion just like bags

[5.74x4]

LOL at the ''all the math'' to install hydros, if thats the case than i'm sure my truck will fall apart real soon because i suck at math.....lol.

But really there is just as much stuff to go wrong with a bag install as a juice install but if both are done with quality parts and the person has a general idea of what they are doing then any install should be dependable and problem free. I did my install on my truck and i wouldnt hesitate to drive it anywhere i wanted to go.

[Slammed83Mazda]

I have one question, in order to do a standing 3 wheel on juice dont you have to wrap your frame??? prevent it from twisting? Thats what I have been told and seen people do, and the average frame wrap around here is $1000 and up.

[lowcherrydime]

to the OP why get pissed off at what people say. do what you want with your truck.

[getto]

Quote: Originally Posted by Slammed83Mazda

I have one question, in order to do a standing 3 wheel on juice dont you have to wrap your frame??? prevent it from twisting? Thats what I have been told and seen people do, and the average frame wrap around here is $1000 and up.

yes and you could also incorperate a chain bridge, basicly limiting straps and for all the juice haters fvck off go bolt in a suicide doors 9000000000007834229 link with everything installed (not takin away from bags when done custom) especially if you are not experienced with both set ups go away, i took a perfectly functioning bag set up of my truck just to be back on juice

[smoothsdime1998]

blah blah blah damn you are ghetto

Quote: Originally Posted by getto

yes and you could also incorperate a chain bridge, basicly limiting straps and for all the juice haters fvck off go bolt in a suicide doors 9000000000007834229 link with everything installed (not takin away from bags when done custom) especially if you are not experienced with both set ups go away, i took a perfectly functioning bag set up of my truck just to be back on juice

[smoothsdime1998]

especially if your not experienced with either

Quote: Originally Posted by inprogress10

to the OP why get pissed off at what people say. do what you want with your truck.

[Slammed03]

Quote: Originally Posted by inprogress10

to the OP why get pissed off at what people say. do what you want with your truck.

its called an opinion...theres nothing you can do to stop someone from having one...just let it gooooooo...

[Slammed83Mazda]

Quote: Originally Posted by getto

yes and you could also incorperate a chain bridge, basicly limiting straps and for all the juice haters fvck off go bolt in a suicide doors 9000000000007834229 link with everything installed (not takin away from bags when done custom) especially if you are not experienced with both set ups go away, i took a perfectly functioning bag set up of my truck just to be back on juice

Thats my biggest thing with the whole juice vs air theory. You can get alot nastier with a bag setup for cheaper than you could with juice, sure doing a standing 3 wheel is nice, but you gotta keep in mind the frame tweaking if its not properly wrapped. But you could run cyclinders on a truck and do it also. Don't get me wrong I like juice and thats what I grew up around and thats the main reason why im even in this sport.

This thread could go on for years, I like both but overall on a daily vehicle I would suggest air.


And as far as the whole being custom thing, whats wrong with going and buying something thats been proven over and over again that will work efficiently and very easy to install ? I don't quite understand that perspective, I would rather see someone bolt something on that they know will work and not much work to get it installed, then welding some shit on and hacking it piece by piece and seeing it break and them possibly hurting thereselfs badly.

[getto]

Quote: Originally Posted by smoothsdime1998

especially if your not experienced with either

thays funny im in my 9th truck 1st 3 on juice, then 5 on air and now im back to juice so i might be a little more experienced then you are assuming, nonetheless the countless other rides ive done for other people, and not for nothing but this is AMERICA so ill say what i want, i also discounted all the people who do their OWN bag setups, i got out of my air cause its to generic and im not all that good at doing hydro set ups so im trying to learn but i like the fact that you cant open a magazine and order 75 different bolt on juice setups so it gives me a little more reason to do it, and its GETTO for a reason

[getto]

Quote: Originally Posted by Slammed83Mazda

Thats my biggest thing with the whole juice vs air theory. You can get alot nastier with a bag setup for cheaper than you could with juice, sure doing a standing 3 wheel is nice, but you gotta keep in mind the frame tweaking if its not properly wrapped. But you could run cyclinders on a truck and do it also. Don't get me wrong I like juice and thats what I grew up around and thats the main reason why im even in this sport.

This thread could go on for years, I like both but overall on a daily vehicle I would suggest