My Backhalf, and juice install......

5.74x4 · 01-28-2007, 08:48 PM

looks good man, will your design be kinda like running accumulators on a juiced truck? the bags allowing a ''cushion'' to absorb the roughness that hydraulics are soposed to be known for. i dont have accumulators on my truck and it rides better on cylinders than when it was a 5/6 static so i dont know if i will add them down the road or not. but anyways keep up the good work.

ZEROpsi · 01-28-2007, 10:04 PM

no auctually it will not function like that really. The air bag will function like a spring normally does in a hydro setup. But instead of having a 3/4 ton or 1/2 ton...or 1 ton.....i can adjust it to any spring rate i choose. An accumulator will have a nitrogen charge that will apply back pressure and instantly dampen the suspension.....

An airbag acts similar to a coil spring.

and an accumulator being applied acts similar to a shock.

just having the air bag with my setup will not let it function like an air bag, the air bag will just support the weight and absorb some of it......adding an accumulator will auctually dampen it and smooth it out.

I will also be running accumulators with this setup.

5.74x4 · 01-29-2007, 01:29 AM

makes sense to me now. i hope i get a chance to see it at a show some day. i don't think we live to far away from each other so maybe we'll attend a show together this season.

***DJDAudio*** · 01-29-2007, 08:01 AM

I like your tolerences man

Cool bags too.

ZEROpsi · 01-29-2007, 08:08 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 5.74x4

makes sense to me now. i hope i get a chance to see it at a show some day. i don't think we live to far away from each other so maybe we'll attend a show together this season.

yea, i dont go to that many shows. mainly because im usually workin in the garage on the truck.......but i will probably get to a few this year with everything hopefully. ITB will be one of them, as will Havok and the RA event.

got_u_sick · 01-29-2007, 08:58 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ZEROpsi

yea, i dont go to that many shows. mainly because im usually workin in the garage on the truck.......but i will probably get to a few this year with everything hopefully. ITB will be one of them, as will Havok and the RA event.

Looks insane! Pretty much some of the sickest frame work ive seen someone do. Looking foreward to seeing this thing at Havoc and ITB.

ZEROpsi · 01-29-2007, 11:21 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by got_u_sick

Looks insane! Pretty much some of the sickest frame work ive seen someone do. Looking foreward to seeing this thing at Havoc and ITB.

thanks

***orangesonoma*** · 03-01-2007, 12:29 PM

cleaned up...keep it clean guys...

ZEROpsi · 03-01-2007, 12:36 PM

Im not quite sure ware i left off on this last.......alot of my pics got deleted from the origional server....so here goes.....

update pics:

got the cantilever arms, and the bushings for the cantilever.

I machined the bushings for these myself. I bought a chunk of delrin materail, I used to use it alot at my old work for rod ends and what not, and they hold up very well, and last a looong time really, they are alot harder than polyurethane, but i think they will work well for what i want to do. I just cut them down to size and machined the lip on my lathe.

the brackets I designed on CAD and sent out to be lazer cut, they turned out great!

but, i should have the canti together this weekend!

eh, got some work done.

the hardest point is getting everything aligned properly so that it stays bind free through its entire travel arc. I probably had it set up with 30 different bar legnths and natural arc points, and in finally found what worked best. I also figured out a way to get a few extra inches of lift out of everything.....idk what i was thinking when i designed those brackets, but the center mount point should of been higher than the lift source mounting point.......so i fixed that and i will take care of that left over hole later.

I also got all my link bars and wishbone off the truck and offically cleaned and ready to drop off at chrome.....which is finally this week.

enjoi

chrome time!

pictures of the cantilever at full drop:

Pictures of 4" of lift at the cylinder = 10" of lift at the axle....

just overview pics of everything

ZEROpsi · 03-01-2007, 12:36 PM

the bender and stand.

BIGGERISBETTER · 03-01-2007, 12:37 PM

I saw some of the new stuff you did on your SSM and its looking killer. Great job man.

yeah... that stuff ^^ haha. I love the tube work around the rear end.. It all blends really well.

***orangesonoma*** · 03-01-2007, 12:43 PM

man that looks great...

TubbD · 03-01-2007, 12:57 PM

Wow!!!

jimluc · 03-01-2007, 03:53 PM

That is just crazy sickness right there.

P.S. Glad you're back

got_u_sick · 03-01-2007, 04:15 PM

Man ol man...that is some of the sickest shit I've seen. Awsome work, keep it up.

ZEROpsi · 03-01-2007, 07:35 PM

thanks guys

there will be an update this weekend, i cut out the entire cab floor and made it flat.....along with the firewall. I should be finishe dup with the skeleton and bracing of the cab floor this weekend.

pics will follow

BuiltNotBought99 · 03-01-2007, 08:17 PM

Man that is some awesome work bro. One or the cleanest setups i've ever seen.

2.2X-10 · 03-01-2007, 08:27 PM

thats is wild..props to you

genx-treme · 03-01-2007, 09:46 PM

Welcome back, and that's some killer work bro....welding all that tubing must have been a pain in the azz...it would have drove me nuts

NeverEnough188 · 03-02-2007, 01:05 AM

glad to have you back taylor

black_ice_02 · 03-02-2007, 11:29 AM

love the setup... keep it up man

JACKEL · 03-02-2007, 01:15 PM

Hats off to ya. Thats awesome shit.

jimhrabe · 03-02-2007, 01:24 PM

Good to see ya back I'm looking forward to some updates on this

fiveinchbodydrop · 03-03-2007, 07:48 AM

im ready to see thisthing in person at all those shows! looks killer man, im green with envy

Slammed83Mazda · 03-03-2007, 10:41 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by fiveinchbodydrop

im ready to see thisthing in person at all those shows! looks killer man, im green with envy

no shit.

Tubing work is incredible Im glad this thread is still going.

xbrightsidex · 03-03-2007, 12:52 PM

i'm really interested in this air springs and hydros setup. are you going to have a complete air management setup as well, or just going to fill with a show compressor. also, are you planning on air/hydro for the front too?

ZEROpsi · 03-03-2007, 02:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by xbrightsidex

i'm really interested in this air springs and hydros setup. are you going to have a complete air management setup as well, or just going to fill with a show compressor. also, are you planning on air/hydro for the front too?

yea, im doing the same setup up front also, with athe air/hydro setup.

i will not be having a complete air setup to control this, maily because i just dont have any room to put it on the frame anyware, I may possibly add a simple compressor to fill it to whatever psi i want, and then, use dump valves to adjust that when needed, but i wont have a tank, multipule compressors, and multipule valves and the whole deal. Maybee on my next project, and i can plan for the layout of everything, but on this ride its not gonna happen.

taylor

xbrightsidex · 03-03-2007, 02:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ZEROpsi

yea, im doing the same setup up front also, with athe air/hydro setup.

i will not be having a complete air setup to control this, maily because i just dont have any room to put it on the frame anyware, I may possibly add a simple compressor to fill it to whatever psi i want, and then, use dump valves to adjust that when needed, but i wont have a tank, multipule compressors, and multipule valves and the whole deal. Maybee on my next project, and i can plan for the layout of everything, but on this ride its not gonna happen.

taylor

awesome. that's what i was figuring, since those bags should probably never need more than 100 psi really. so just a compressor, a few check valves, and a couple dumps to make it a dump-only f/b. i sure hope you don't ever really plan on hopping with those bags on there though. they won't handle an immense amount of pressure... especially with that crimp ring style.

Mcfly Minis · 03-03-2007, 02:58 PM

Simply awesome fab work.

ZEROpsi · 03-03-2007, 07:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by xbrightsidex

awesome. that's what i was figuring, since those bags should probably never need more than 100 psi really. so just a compressor, a few check valves, and a couple dumps to make it a dump-only f/b. i sure hope you don't ever really plan on hopping with those bags on there though. they won't handle an immense amount of pressure... especially with that crimp ring style.

yea, im only running 24v so hopping wont be an issue. Im not much into that anyways.

Draggin97 · 03-03-2007, 08:25 PM

awesome work man! So i take it the bags are to dampen the hydro's? It looks like a real interesting setup.

ZEROpsi · 03-03-2007, 09:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Draggin97

awesome work man! So i take it the bags are to dampen the hydro's? It looks like a real interesting setup.

na, the bags dont really dampen anything. I mean, even in a nomal air bag setup, just throwing bags in it dosent dampen your ride at all, or smooth it out....adding shocks as well as bags does.

The bags act solely as an adjustable rate spring, instead of a fixed rate. That means i can tune the ride style to that particular day.....if im going to be at a show most the day, or just doing short cruises (which will be most the time) the bags will be filled with a higher psi, to get a more ridgid ride so i can ride o-so-superlow without having any floating, and keeping from bottoming out at all.....Or when im going to be going on a more casual ride, was i may not be driving slammed all the way thare, and may be at a more commor ride height, i will run a medium pressure in the bag, so that it will give me a softer spring rate and have s softer ride, and maybee alittle float.

I will also be running accumulators on this setup, and those will be what is dampening my ride.

greencactus3 · 03-03-2007, 10:03 PM

shit thats shexy.. i right click-saved a lot of them!! theyll be poping up in my screensaver every now and then

Draggin97 · 03-04-2007, 02:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ZEROpsi

na, the bags dont really dampen anything. I mean, even in a nomal air bag setup, just throwing bags in it dosent dampen your ride at all, or smooth it out....adding shocks as well as bags does.

The bags act solely as an adjustable rate spring, instead of a fixed rate. That means i can tune the ride style to that particular day.....if im going to be at a show most the day, or just doing short cruises (which will be most the time) the bags will be filled with a higher psi, to get a more ridgid ride so i can ride o-so-superlow without having any floating, and keeping from bottoming out at all.....Or when im going to be going on a more casual ride, was i may not be driving slammed all the way thare, and may be at a more commor ride height, i will run a medium pressure in the bag, so that it will give me a softer spring rate and have s softer ride, and maybee alittle float.

I will also be running accumulators on this setup, and those will be what is dampening my ride.

Thats really neat man, i do not know a thing about hydros but what you are saying makes sense. Keep up the killer work

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JMew03 · 03-04-2007, 04:33 PM

wow... thats look great

slam · 03-04-2007, 08:27 PM

Nice, and welcome back!

***Dragginbody*** · 03-05-2007, 03:04 PM

welcome back taylor. keep postin pics!

xtrmlow · 03-05-2007, 05:02 PM

yes more pics why dont you show everyone the new cab floor and bed??

ZEROpsi · 03-05-2007, 05:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by xtrmlow

yes more pics why dont you show everyone the new cab floor and bed??

lol

cus im SLOW!

haha, ill post some pics of the floor soon, i forget about pics on this site sometiems.

they will get posted tho!

tahnks guys

2 LayLo · 03-28-2007, 01:01 AM

Any progress with the chrome on this bad boy

lade-lo · 03-28-2007, 09:43 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ZEROpsi

the bender and stand.

where di you get that bender and how much was it?

JACKEL · 03-28-2007, 10:17 AM

Great question. I'd like to know also.

juiced93 · 03-28-2007, 10:27 AM

looking good taylor shits tits...

hell it almost looks as good as this...

ZEROpsi · 03-28-2007, 11:07 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 2 LayLo

Any progress with the chrome on this bad boy

update eh......

lol

got some update with chrome and what not.....I know its early in the game for chrome, but i wasnt planning on having the chromer get it done so fast......he quoted me a few months, and had it done in a few weeks lol....o well, it looks perty.

also, got most of my cab floor constrcted, and framed it. Im just bascly making a skeleton on the inside for it while its on the frame, then when i send the frame out for powdercoat, i will have a little more room in the garage and will beable to weld the rest of the floor up and put some sheetmetal on it and make the firewall and what not.....

ive gotte alittle work done in the past few weekends, i wish i had actually gotten more done, but ill take what i can get.

since i couldnt find a new bed in my price range....i had to try and salvage the one had. Word of advice, dont stand your bed up on end for any long amount of time....tweaking occurs, and it takes forever to get back to strait.

I knew i didnt want to run any sort of inside to my bed, just a tubing shell and mount it to the frame like that. On the top rails i just flushed up tubing to that when i filled the gap in with welds, it would smooth out flush with the bed top, and give it a nice rounded look on the top side.

again with this, i just want my basic frame installed, then when i take it off the truck and send the frame out for PC i can do all the final welding and tube placment everyware.

ZEROpsi · 03-28-2007, 11:10 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by lade-lo

where di you get that bender and how much was it?

the bender is a JD2 Model 3 bender. Its a great bender....with the dies and everything its about 800$ total, but worth every penny. Every bend on my truck was done with this bender.

At work we use a JD2 Model 4 bender. Its even more kick ass.

JD2 is the place to be when it comes to buying a bender, it really dont get much better for any other bender on the market for under 5k.

ZEROpsi · 03-28-2007, 11:11 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by NickZigaitis

Great question. I'd like to know also.

answered above....hope that helps.

I made the stand and hydro conversion from scrap parts i had around the garage......its much better than cranking it by hand lol

DarkGreen03 · 03-28-2007, 04:10 PM

I love the setup, the inside of the bed will look sick, and the chrome looks amazing. keep up the damn good work. I wanna see it come together.

xtrmlow · 03-28-2007, 06:51 PM

hell yea!! looks amazing!

2 LayLo · 03-28-2007, 11:57 PM

looks badass, chrome is amazing on there

JACKEL · 03-29-2007, 07:57 AM

I found that bender real easily on EBay. Not bad at all. I definitely have to keep that on my wish list.

01-28-2007, 08:48 PM	#201
5.74x4 Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 824 Location: corydon,indiana User is: Online	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... looks good man, will your design be kinda like running accumulators on a juiced truck? the bags allowing a ''cushion'' to absorb the roughness that hydraulics are soposed to be known for. i dont have accumulators on my truck and it rides better on cylinders than when it was a 5/6 static so i dont know if i will add them down the road or not. but anyways keep up the good work.
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01-28-2007, 10:04 PM	#202
ZEROpsi -MMW- Age: 28 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,434 Location: Mid - Michigan Area User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... no auctually it will not function like that really. The air bag will function like a spring normally does in a hydro setup. But instead of having a 3/4 ton or 1/2 ton...or 1 ton.....i can adjust it to any spring rate i choose. An accumulator will have a nitrogen charge that will apply back pressure and instantly dampen the suspension..... An airbag acts similar to a coil spring. and an accumulator being applied acts similar to a shock. just having the air bag with my setup will not let it function like an air bag, the air bag will just support the weight and absorb some of it......adding an accumulator will auctually dampen it and smooth it out. I will also be running accumulators with this setup. Last edited by ZEROpsi : 01-28-2007 at 10:09 PM. Reason: my dick feels like corn
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01-29-2007, 01:29 AM	#203
5.74x4 Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 824 Location: corydon,indiana User is: Online	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... makes sense to me now. i hope i get a chance to see it at a show some day. i don't think we live to far away from each other so maybe we'll attend a show together this season.
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01-29-2007, 08:08 AM	#205
ZEROpsi -MMW- Age: 28 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,434 Location: Mid - Michigan Area User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... Quote: Originally Posted by 5.74x4 makes sense to me now. i hope i get a chance to see it at a show some day. i don't think we live to far away from each other so maybe we'll attend a show together this season. yea, i dont go to that many shows. mainly because im usually workin in the garage on the truck.......but i will probably get to a few this year with everything hopefully. ITB will be one of them, as will Havok and the RA event.
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01-29-2007, 08:58 AM	#206
got_u_sick PUNISHING GROUNDS Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,348 Location: Kentucky User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... Quote: Originally Posted by ZEROpsi yea, i dont go to that many shows. mainly because im usually workin in the garage on the truck.......but i will probably get to a few this year with everything hopefully. ITB will be one of them, as will Havok and the RA event. Looks insane! Pretty much some of the sickest frame work ive seen someone do. Looking foreward to seeing this thing at Havoc and ITB.
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01-29-2007, 11:21 AM	#207
ZEROpsi -MMW- Age: 28 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,434 Location: Mid - Michigan Area User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... Quote: Originally Posted by got_u_sick Looks insane! Pretty much some of the sickest frame work ive seen someone do. Looking foreward to seeing this thing at Havoc and ITB. thanks
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03-01-2007, 12:29 PM	#208
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03-01-2007, 12:36 PM	#209
ZEROpsi -MMW- Age: 28 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,434 Location: Mid - Michigan Area User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... Im not quite sure ware i left off on this last.......alot of my pics got deleted from the origional server....so here goes..... update pics: got the cantilever arms, and the bushings for the cantilever. I machined the bushings for these myself. I bought a chunk of delrin materail, I used to use it alot at my old work for rod ends and what not, and they hold up very well, and last a looong time really, they are alot harder than polyurethane, but i think they will work well for what i want to do. I just cut them down to size and machined the lip on my lathe. the brackets I designed on CAD and sent out to be lazer cut, they turned out great! but, i should have the canti together this weekend! eh, got some work done. the hardest point is getting everything aligned properly so that it stays bind free through its entire travel arc. I probably had it set up with 30 different bar legnths and natural arc points, and in finally found what worked best. I also figured out a way to get a few extra inches of lift out of everything.....idk what i was thinking when i designed those brackets, but the center mount point should of been higher than the lift source mounting point.......so i fixed that and i will take care of that left over hole later. I also got all my link bars and wishbone off the truck and offically cleaned and ready to drop off at chrome.....which is finally this week. enjoi chrome time! pictures of the cantilever at full drop: Pictures of 4" of lift at the cylinder = 10" of lift at the axle.... just overview pics of everything
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03-01-2007, 12:36 PM	#210
ZEROpsi -MMW- Age: 28 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,434 Location: Mid - Michigan Area User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... the bender and stand.
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03-01-2007, 12:37 PM	#211
BIGGERISBETTER flat blue and layin frame Age: 25 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,871 Location: Bolivar, Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... I saw some of the new stuff you did on your SSM and its looking killer. Great job man. yeah... that stuff ^^ haha. I love the tube work around the rear end.. It all blends really well. Last edited by BIGGERISBETTER : 03-01-2007 at 12:42 PM.
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03-01-2007, 12:43 PM	#212
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03-01-2007, 12:57 PM	#213
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03-01-2007, 03:53 PM	#214
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03-01-2007, 04:15 PM	#215
got_u_sick PUNISHING GROUNDS Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,348 Location: Kentucky User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... Man ol man...that is some of the sickest shit I've seen. Awsome work, keep it up.
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03-01-2007, 07:35 PM	#216
ZEROpsi -MMW- Age: 28 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,434 Location: Mid - Michigan Area User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... thanks guys there will be an update this weekend, i cut out the entire cab floor and made it flat.....along with the firewall. I should be finishe dup with the skeleton and bracing of the cab floor this weekend. pics will follow
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03-01-2007, 08:17 PM	#217
BuiltNotBought99 Lay'd Age: 27 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,274 Location: SC User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... Man that is some awesome work bro. One or the cleanest setups i've ever seen.
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03-01-2007, 08:27 PM	#218
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03-01-2007, 09:46 PM	#219
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03-02-2007, 01:05 AM	#220
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03-02-2007, 11:29 AM	#221
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03-02-2007, 01:15 PM	#222
JACKEL I Like Fire....HaHaHa Age: 79 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,066 Location: God Damn Garage, STL User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... Hats off to ya. Thats awesome shit.
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03-02-2007, 01:24 PM	#223
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03-03-2007, 07:48 AM	#224
fiveinchbodydrop Registered User Age: 30 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,057 Location: mt.juliet, tn User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... im ready to see thisthing in person at all those shows! looks killer man, im green with envy
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03-03-2007, 10:41 AM	#225
Slammed83Mazda KentuckyMinis.com Age: 21 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,283 Location: louisville User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... Quote: Originally Posted by fiveinchbodydrop im ready to see thisthing in person at all those shows! looks killer man, im green with envy no shit. Tubing work is incredible Im glad this thread is still going.
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03-03-2007, 12:52 PM	#226
xbrightsidex dixie highway destroyer Age: 25 Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,418 Location: louisville, ky User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... i'm really interested in this air springs and hydros setup. are you going to have a complete air management setup as well, or just going to fill with a show compressor. also, are you planning on air/hydro for the front too?
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03-03-2007, 02:24 PM	#227
ZEROpsi -MMW- Age: 28 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,434 Location: Mid - Michigan Area User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... Quote: Originally Posted by xbrightsidex i'm really interested in this air springs and hydros setup. are you going to have a complete air management setup as well, or just going to fill with a show compressor. also, are you planning on air/hydro for the front too? yea, im doing the same setup up front also, with athe air/hydro setup. i will not be having a complete air setup to control this, maily because i just dont have any room to put it on the frame anyware, I may possibly add a simple compressor to fill it to whatever psi i want, and then, use dump valves to adjust that when needed, but i wont have a tank, multipule compressors, and multipule valves and the whole deal. Maybee on my next project, and i can plan for the layout of everything, but on this ride its not gonna happen. taylor
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03-03-2007, 02:33 PM	#228
xbrightsidex dixie highway destroyer Age: 25 Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,418 Location: louisville, ky User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... Quote: Originally Posted by ZEROpsi yea, im doing the same setup up front also, with athe air/hydro setup. i will not be having a complete air setup to control this, maily because i just dont have any room to put it on the frame anyware, I may possibly add a simple compressor to fill it to whatever psi i want, and then, use dump valves to adjust that when needed, but i wont have a tank, multipule compressors, and multipule valves and the whole deal. Maybee on my next project, and i can plan for the layout of everything, but on this ride its not gonna happen. taylor awesome. that's what i was figuring, since those bags should probably never need more than 100 psi really. so just a compressor, a few check valves, and a couple dumps to make it a dump-only f/b. i sure hope you don't ever really plan on hopping with those bags on there though. they won't handle an immense amount of pressure... especially with that crimp ring style.
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03-03-2007, 02:58 PM	#229
Mcfly Minis Mcfly Minis inc Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,967 Location: Rochester NY User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... Simply awesome fab work.
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03-03-2007, 07:26 PM	#230
ZEROpsi -MMW- Age: 28 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,434 Location: Mid - Michigan Area User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... Quote: Originally Posted by xbrightsidex awesome. that's what i was figuring, since those bags should probably never need more than 100 psi really. so just a compressor, a few check valves, and a couple dumps to make it a dump-only f/b. i sure hope you don't ever really plan on hopping with those bags on there though. they won't handle an immense amount of pressure... especially with that crimp ring style. yea, im only running 24v so hopping wont be an issue. Im not much into that anyways.
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03-03-2007, 08:25 PM	#231
Draggin97 stone the crow... Age: 26 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,943 Location: wichita kansas User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... awesome work man! So i take it the bags are to dampen the hydro's? It looks like a real interesting setup. Last edited by Draggin97 : 03-03-2007 at 08:27 PM.
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03-03-2007, 09:30 PM	#232
ZEROpsi -MMW- Age: 28 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,434 Location: Mid - Michigan Area User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... Quote: Originally Posted by Draggin97 awesome work man! So i take it the bags are to dampen the hydro's? It looks like a real interesting setup. na, the bags dont really dampen anything. I mean, even in a nomal air bag setup, just throwing bags in it dosent dampen your ride at all, or smooth it out....adding shocks as well as bags does. The bags act solely as an adjustable rate spring, instead of a fixed rate. That means i can tune the ride style to that particular day.....if im going to be at a show most the day, or just doing short cruises (which will be most the time) the bags will be filled with a higher psi, to get a more ridgid ride so i can ride o-so-superlow without having any floating, and keeping from bottoming out at all.....Or when im going to be going on a more casual ride, was i may not be driving slammed all the way thare, and may be at a more commor ride height, i will run a medium pressure in the bag, so that it will give me a softer spring rate and have s softer ride, and maybee alittle float. I will also be running accumulators on this setup, and those will be what is dampening my ride.
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03-03-2007, 10:03 PM	#233
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,509 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... shit thats shexy.. i right click-saved a lot of them!! theyll be poping up in my screensaver every now and then
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03-04-2007, 02:52 PM	#234
Draggin97 stone the crow... Age: 26 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,943 Location: wichita kansas User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... Quote: Originally Posted by ZEROpsi na, the bags dont really dampen anything. I mean, even in a nomal air bag setup, just throwing bags in it dosent dampen your ride at all, or smooth it out....adding shocks as well as bags does. The bags act solely as an adjustable rate spring, instead of a fixed rate. That means i can tune the ride style to that particular day.....if im going to be at a show most the day, or just doing short cruises (which will be most the time) the bags will be filled with a higher psi, to get a more ridgid ride so i can ride o-so-superlow without having any floating, and keeping from bottoming out at all.....Or when im going to be going on a more casual ride, was i may not be driving slammed all the way thare, and may be at a more commor ride height, i will run a medium pressure in the bag, so that it will give me a softer spring rate and have s softer ride, and maybee alittle float. I will also be running accumulators on this setup, and those will be what is dampening my ride. Thats really neat man, i do not know a thing about hydros but what you are saying makes sense. Keep up the killer work .
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03-04-2007, 04:33 PM	#235
JMew03 bodydropped on 22s! Age: 25 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,214 Location: DFW, TX User is: OffLine	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... wow... thats look great
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03-04-2007, 08:27 PM	#236
slam What to put here? Age: 69 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,554 Location: User is: Online	Re: My Backhalf, and juice install...... Nice, and welcome back!
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