Bags And Hydros

SittinFrame · 07-26-2002, 03:12 AM

What is the differance between the two what are some up and down of each because I am considering ordering the complete speed bag kit from mic for 2 g's but they have a hydro kit for 1100 and I dont know what to do and also do I have to have a c-notch or a four link to be bagged and to lay frame?

HuTcH · 07-26-2002, 07:37 AM

big difference is thee airbag system is gonna ride a lot better for a decent riding hydro system yer gonna pay a lot more than 1100 and i think the airbag systems look cleaner on installation and no matter which way you go you are going to have to cut frame to lay as the axle will hit the frame before you lay so either a 4 link or a c notch is gonna be needed in the rear

***AVTekk*** · 07-26-2002, 03:23 PM

4 link is NOT needed for anything but to give better handling and eliminate wheel hop. you can lay out on leafs just fine, people do it all the time, its cheaper...

LowTech · 07-26-2002, 03:42 PM

Hydros leaky mess fluid all over when something breaks bahhhhhhhh....plus space for the extra power you will need to keep'em hopping....

HuTcH · 07-26-2002, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by LowTech
Hydros leaky mess fluid all over when something breaks bahhhhhhhh....plus space for the extra power you will need to keep'em hopping....

forgot the extra power and yeah hydraulic fluid everywhere is a bish and just no fun to mess with either

SittinFrame · 07-27-2002, 12:31 AM

I was planning on getting a c-notch and a 4-link.

IntenseMtrsprts7 · 07-27-2002, 01:17 AM

and with hydros, they can catch fire and many other things, theyre messier, more expensive in the long run in a lot of cases, and you have to buy expensive batteries and things like that...all in all i would go with air bags bro

one_low_s10 · 07-27-2002, 01:45 AM

man it all depends on how much you play with the dros, if you play with them every ***in time you see a person yeah your gonna break some thing, and oh yeah i've seen air compressors catch fire too, put it this way everything leaks just which would you rather work with air or oil???

Jonathon · 07-27-2002, 02:02 AM

get airbags

IntenseMtrsprts7 · 07-27-2002, 02:21 AM

psssssssssst........GET bags lol

SittinFrame · 07-27-2002, 12:46 PM

Yea I think I am going to go with fast bags from like mic or somthing like their speed bag kit it is 2g's but it comes with a big constant duty compressor and 8 valves but if I dont want the two front bags to be connected like sharing air how do I prevent this or what do I look for in a kit because a guy on here said that he could take off his sway bar and not of body roll because his two front bags arent connected.

IntenseMtrsprts7 · 07-27-2002, 04:20 PM

You can have an air tank for the front and an air tank for the back if you dont want front/rear to share. I thiknk what you are thinking of is when you have a front/back setup and you hit corners and all the air shifts to the opposite side, you won't have this with a fbss setup.

IntenseMtrsprts7 · 07-27-2002, 04:21 PM

Oh ya, and don't forget a shock relocator kit for your front setup.

webgator · 07-27-2002, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AVTekk
4 link is NOT needed for anything but to give better handling and eliminate wheel hop. you can lay out on leafs just fine, people do it all the time, its cheaper...

Are you talking doing a mono leaf setup then? Would you have to run blocks also to still lay frame, even if using a monster notch?

I-10 S-10 · 07-28-2002, 03:08 AM

if the kit comes with 8 valves that means u have 2 valves per bag. so if u want the front to have independent corners it will, and so will the back because each corner will have its own valves and will not be sharing air flow from a single valve or single set of valves.

I-10 S-10 · 07-28-2002, 03:20 AM

if the kit comes with 8 valves that means u have 2 valves per bag. so if u want the front to have independent corners it will, and so will the back because each corner will have its own valves and will not be sharing air flow from a single valve or single set of valves.

IntenseMtrsprts7 · 07-28-2002, 04:28 AM

To lay frame your gonna need mono leaf, 4" angled block and yes a big notch.

webgator · 07-28-2002, 05:20 AM

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Originally posted by IntenseMtrsprts7
To lay frame your gonna need mono leaf, 4" angled block and yes a big notch.

That's what I thought...

Thanks!

:thumbup:

JoshJPKustoms · 07-28-2002, 07:55 PM

You can lay a truck out fine without a 4link. I run a monoleaf setup on my s10... f,b air bag setup.. and a 7" notch..i just flipped my leafs upside downa and i lay out..i got 2" spindles in front, and bags in front also..4links are great for preventing wheel hop, and they give a smoother ride to your truck!

IntenseMtrsprts7 · 07-29-2002, 07:12 PM

they also look wicked as hell, and if u get a cantilever 4 link u can get 30+ inches of lift in the back

EyePoppin · 02-08-2004, 09:07 AM

Biggest differece IMO, one the suspension is based on air, the other hydraulic fluid / SAE oil.

neverfinished94 · 02-10-2004, 06:56 PM

i really wouldnt order anything from mic unless you like wasting your money. they are tons of awesome dealers on this forum. jason from suicidedoors (my personal favorite. thanks for everything j). larry from innovative air suspension (awesome guy. great prices and always there to help out) and matt from guage (good prices and s10 forum discount). cant go wrong with any of those guys. no one from mic even supports this site. ive also heard alot of bad stuff about mic

i dont have any experience with jp kustoms but i had heard good things about them too

NoDime4myTime · 02-11-2004, 01:16 AM

im sick of this topic,
pros: They Both kick ass
cons: they both suck when they break
pros: bitches look
cons: they both suck when they break
pros: you are adjustable
cons:......they both suck when they break
here is my advice
take 4 pieces of paper, write hydros on 2 and bags on 2, fold em, put em in a hat, pick one and buy it.
As long as your are adjustable who cares, they both kick ass......if done right.

RikuY · 02-11-2004, 10:04 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by NoDime4myTime

im sick of this topic,
pros: They Both kick ass
cons: they both suck when they break
pros: bitches look
cons: they both suck when they break
pros: you are adjustable
cons:......they both suck when they break
here is my advice
take 4 pieces of paper, write hydros on 2 and bags on 2, fold em, put em in a hat, pick one and buy it.
As long as your are adjustable who cares, they both kick ass......if done right.

NICE POST!

Couldn't have said it better myself...

slam-10 · 02-11-2004, 01:18 PM

mic is out of business anyways......and there are pros and cons to both, but it is all in personal preference....i swear i have said the exact same thing in 6 different threads this week..

07-26-2002, 03:12 AM	#1
SittinFrame CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS Age: 21 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 352 Location: Baltimore, Md. User is: OffLine	Bags And Hydros What is the differance between the two what are some up and down of each because I am considering ordering the complete speed bag kit from mic for 2 g's but they have a hydro kit for 1100 and I dont know what to do and also do I have to have a c-notch or a four link to be bagged and to lay frame?
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07-26-2002, 07:37 AM	#2
HuTcH Age: 31 Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 6,636 Location: Dallas, Texas User is: OffLine	big difference is thee airbag system is gonna ride a lot better for a decent riding hydro system yer gonna pay a lot more than 1100 and i think the airbag systems look cleaner on installation and no matter which way you go you are going to have to cut frame to lay as the axle will hit the frame before you lay so either a 4 link or a c notch is gonna be needed in the rear
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07-26-2002, 03:42 PM	#4
LowTech True Ambition Age: 31 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,563 Location: Plains,PA User is: OffLine	Least you for get Hydros leaky mess fluid all over when something breaks bahhhhhhhh....plus space for the extra power you will need to keep'em hopping....
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07-26-2002, 03:48 PM	#5
HuTcH Age: 31 Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 6,636 Location: Dallas, Texas User is: OffLine	Re: Least you for get Quote: Originally posted by LowTech Hydros leaky mess fluid all over when something breaks bahhhhhhhh....plus space for the extra power you will need to keep'em hopping.... forgot the extra power and yeah hydraulic fluid everywhere is a bish and just no fun to mess with either
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07-27-2002, 12:31 AM	#6
SittinFrame CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS Age: 21 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 352 Location: Baltimore, Md. User is: OffLine	Hey I was planning on getting a c-notch and a 4-link.
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07-27-2002, 01:17 AM	#7
IntenseMtrsprts7 Bolt-On Body Dropz Age: 22 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,739 Location: St. Louis Pavement User is: OffLine	and with hydros, they can catch fire and many other things, theyre messier, more expensive in the long run in a lot of cases, and you have to buy expensive batteries and things like that...all in all i would go with air bags bro
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07-27-2002, 01:45 AM	#8
one_low_s10 Yeah they 10's, but i keep um clean Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 52 Location: Conyers, GA User is: OffLine	man it all depends on how much you play with the dros, if you play with them every ***in time you see a person yeah your gonna break some thing, and oh yeah i've seen air compressors catch fire too, put it this way everything leaks just which would you rather work with air or oil???
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07-27-2002, 02:02 AM	#9
Jonathon Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 941 Location: User is: OffLine	get airbags
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07-27-2002, 02:21 AM	#10
IntenseMtrsprts7 Bolt-On Body Dropz Age: 22 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,739 Location: St. Louis Pavement User is: OffLine	psssssssssst........GET bags lol
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07-27-2002, 12:46 PM	#11
SittinFrame CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS Age: 21 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 352 Location: Baltimore, Md. User is: OffLine	Hey Yea I think I am going to go with fast bags from like mic or somthing like their speed bag kit it is 2g's but it comes with a big constant duty compressor and 8 valves but if I dont want the two front bags to be connected like sharing air how do I prevent this or what do I look for in a kit because a guy on here said that he could take off his sway bar and not of body roll because his two front bags arent connected.
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07-27-2002, 04:20 PM	#12
IntenseMtrsprts7 Bolt-On Body Dropz Age: 22 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,739 Location: St. Louis Pavement User is: OffLine	You can have an air tank for the front and an air tank for the back if you dont want front/rear to share. I thiknk what you are thinking of is when you have a front/back setup and you hit corners and all the air shifts to the opposite side, you won't have this with a fbss setup.
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07-27-2002, 04:21 PM	#13
IntenseMtrsprts7 Bolt-On Body Dropz Age: 22 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,739 Location: St. Louis Pavement User is: OffLine	Oh ya, and don't forget a shock relocator kit for your front setup.
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07-27-2002, 07:33 PM	#14
webgator Someday she'll be done! Age: 36 Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 829 Location: Jacksonville, FL User is: OffLine	Quote: Originally posted by AVTekk 4 link is NOT needed for anything but to give better handling and eliminate wheel hop. you can lay out on leafs just fine, people do it all the time, its cheaper... Are you talking doing a mono leaf setup then? Would you have to run blocks also to still lay frame, even if using a monster notch?
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07-28-2002, 03:08 AM	#15
I-10 S-10 Eksessiv Louisiana Age: 25 Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 243 Location: Lake Charles, LA User is: OffLine	if the kit comes with 8 valves that means u have 2 valves per bag. so if u want the front to have independent corners it will, and so will the back because each corner will have its own valves and will not be sharing air flow from a single valve or single set of valves.
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07-28-2002, 03:20 AM	#16
I-10 S-10 Eksessiv Louisiana Age: 25 Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 243 Location: Lake Charles, LA User is: OffLine	if the kit comes with 8 valves that means u have 2 valves per bag. so if u want the front to have independent corners it will, and so will the back because each corner will have its own valves and will not be sharing air flow from a single valve or single set of valves.
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07-28-2002, 04:28 AM	#17
IntenseMtrsprts7 Bolt-On Body Dropz Age: 22 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,739 Location: St. Louis Pavement User is: OffLine	To lay frame your gonna need mono leaf, 4" angled block and yes a big notch.
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07-28-2002, 05:20 AM	#18
webgator Someday she'll be done! Age: 36 Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 829 Location: Jacksonville, FL User is: OffLine	Quote: Originally posted by IntenseMtrsprts7 To lay frame your gonna need mono leaf, 4" angled block and yes a big notch. That's what I thought... Thanks! :thumbup:
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07-28-2002, 07:55 PM	#19
JoshJPKustoms Draggin body member Age: 23 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,142 Location: Minot North Dakota User is: OffLine	You can lay a truck out fine without a 4link. I run a monoleaf setup on my s10... f,b air bag setup.. and a 7" notch..i just flipped my leafs upside downa and i lay out..i got 2" spindles in front, and bags in front also..4links are great for preventing wheel hop, and they give a smoother ride to your truck!
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07-29-2002, 07:12 PM	#20
IntenseMtrsprts7 Bolt-On Body Dropz Age: 22 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,739 Location: St. Louis Pavement User is: OffLine	they also look wicked as hell, and if u get a cantilever 4 link u can get 30+ inches of lift in the back
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02-08-2004, 09:07 AM	#21
EyePoppin Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,825 Location: Grand Rapids, MI User is: OffLine	Re: Bags And Hydros Biggest differece IMO, one the suspension is based on air, the other hydraulic fluid / SAE oil.
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02-10-2004, 06:56 PM	#22
neverfinished94 lays frame on 22's Age: 30 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,478 Location: tx User is: OffLine	Re: Bags And Hydros i really wouldnt order anything from mic unless you like wasting your money. they are tons of awesome dealers on this forum. jason from suicidedoors (my personal favorite. thanks for everything j). larry from innovative air suspension (awesome guy. great prices and always there to help out) and matt from guage (good prices and s10 forum discount). cant go wrong with any of those guys. no one from mic even supports this site. ive also heard alot of bad stuff about mic i dont have any experience with jp kustoms but i had heard good things about them too
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02-11-2004, 01:16 AM	#23
NoDime4myTime dont be a pussy Age: 26 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 315 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Bags And Hydros im sick of this topic, pros: They Both kick ass cons: they both suck when they break pros: bitches look cons: they both suck when they break pros: you are adjustable cons:......they both suck when they break here is my advice take 4 pieces of paper, write hydros on 2 and bags on 2, fold em, put em in a hat, pick one and buy it. As long as your are adjustable who cares, they both kick ass......if done right.
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02-11-2004, 10:04 AM	#24
RikuY Rollin Car Club Age: 31 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 214 Location: Ft. Myers, FL User is: OffLine	Re: Bags And Hydros Quote: Originally Posted by NoDime4myTime im sick of this topic, pros: They Both kick ass cons: they both suck when they break pros: bitches look cons: they both suck when they break pros: you are adjustable cons:......they both suck when they break here is my advice take 4 pieces of paper, write hydros on 2 and bags on 2, fold em, put em in a hat, pick one and buy it. As long as your are adjustable who cares, they both kick ass......if done right. NICE POST! Couldn't have said it better myself...
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02-11-2004, 01:18 PM	#25
slam-10 Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,011 Location: south carolina User is: OffLine	Re: Bags And Hydros mic is out of business anyways......and there are pros and cons to both, but it is all in personal preference....i swear i have said the exact same thing in 6 different threads this week..
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