Am i doin this right?

[HelloS10]

im planning on juicing my truck hopefully just before spring break, i dont knw much but this is the setup i think is right for me:
- 2 pumps
- 4 batt (1 bay)
- 4 dumps
- 8 switch

i knw i should use accumulators for a smoothed ride but what determines how many i need? would i be fine with 2 accumulators?
also, i would be able to 3 wheel correct? just pump up, then dump one side?
any guide lines that i should knw about before juming into this? i will put a chain bridge for saftey. but i dont think 2 pumps is enough for hopping ? right or wrong?

I plan on ordering through showtime, has anyone dealed with them? what are some names i should look towards or stay way from?

you input is appreciated.

-brent

[Tandem-Madness]

Quote: Originally Posted by HelloS10

im planning on juicing my truck hopefully just before spring break, i dont knw much but this is the setup i think is right for me:
- 2 pumps
- 4 batt (1 bay)
- 4 dumps
- 8 switch

i knw i should use accumulators for a smoothed ride but what determines how many i need? would i be fine with 2 accumulators?
also, i would be able to 3 wheel correct? just pump up, then dump one side?
any guide lines that i should knw about before juming into this? i will put a chain bridge for saftey. but i dont think 2 pumps is enough for hopping ? right or wrong?

I plan on ordering through showtime, has anyone dealed with them? what are some names i should look towards or stay way from?

you input is appreciated.

-brent

Sounds like a good system. I would wire the batterys to 2 of the batterys to 24 volts, and the other 2 to 24 volts, then wire the 2 banks of 24 together going to the solenoids. It won't be as fast, but the bushings in the motors will last a lot longer (compaired to running 48 volts).

You should have an accumulator for each wheel, (or each dump, rather)...

You will be able to 3 wheel, while in motion. You won't be able to sit and hold it...and you can hop with 1 pump (most pumps on the market are 6000 psi pumps)... Height will be determined by what kind of springs you have. I can get about 6" on 4 rounds of 1/2 ton full size springs...but the stiffer the spring, the higher you can get, and the ride will be worse...

And you won't need a chain bridge with 2 pumps. That is when you have 2 pumps on the rear end, and you use the chain to lever the truck up to hold a 3 wheel.

Most of the product out there are all about the same. And everybody will argue who is the best and worst...

I personally like Pro Hopper. And there is no way in %#&& I would ever use Red's. (I used to be a dealer for them, and had major problems with thier junk...)

[HelloS10]

i drew this up real quick, not quite sure if this is what your saying?


ooops forgot attachment here it is:

[heresdamanladies]

i got reds and hyavent had any probs (only had the truck for 3 days ) Jason

[HelloS10]

i have another question..... with air bags you get better performance out of your bags if you install a more suitable suspention ( such as a 4 link) , but i am clueless upon hydrolics, i guess with hydraulics you can run drow over leaf like you can with bags but.... is there anything that would need to be worked on when installing the juice? i know of chain bridges (i dont need a chain bridge) but besides that?? can someone straiten this out for me?

[Zer0KlearancE]

I am not a expert on 4link vs 3link vs stock suspension etc. But I do know this, your rear suspension does matter when your doing any type of mobile suspension, your stock rear is going to constrict movement if you use it. I have a 2link with a location device (soon to be changed for a 4 link) the way it is right now I get about 8" of lift but the rear end doesn't like tilting much and the ride is horrid, also with the current 2 link setup I have my pinion angle is off and I get vibrations at 65mph+. Just thought I would throw my penny in there, go with a good rear end like a 4 link.

[RikuY]

Quote: Originally Posted by HelloS10

i have another question..... with air bags you get better performance out of your bags if you install a more suitable suspention ( such as a 4 link) , but i am clueless upon hydrolics, i guess with hydraulics you can run drow over leaf like you can with bags but.... is there anything that would need to be worked on when installing the juice? i know of chain bridges (i dont need a chain bridge) but besides that?? can someone straiten this out for me?

Just to add my $.02... A four link or 3-link is a good idea if your doing a lot of side-to-side or 3-wheel motion. The twisting of the leaf spring is the most damaging. If you just go up and down, the stock leaf(s) will be fine.
If you go to www.prohopper.com, there is a step-by-step tutorial on how to install juice in an s-10. It teaches you a lot about it if you haven't seen it before or haven't done any installations.
There are so many different ways to set-up a rear-end, you'll have to do some investigating and figure it out yourself. Go to a Lowrider show near you if at all possible, and ask questions.
The biggest differences are in what wheel sizes your going to run. If you do some 13's or 14's, the notch isn't necessary and you can weld everything onto the frame rails like in the prohopper tutorial. 17's and bigger, notch will be necessary and then your rear set-up will look like a bagged dragger. As in, monster notch, notch bridge, and your cylinder assembly built onto the bridge. There are other ways, but this should get you started.

[eacyde]

Quote: Originally Posted by HelloS10

im planning on juicing my truck hopefully just before spring break, i dont knw much but this is the setup i think is right for me:
- 2 pumps
- 4 batt (1 bay)
- 4 dumps
- 8 switch

i knw i should use accumulators for a smoothed ride but what determines how many i need? would i be fine with 2 accumulators?
also, i would be able to 3 wheel correct? just pump up, then dump one side?
any guide lines that i should knw about before juming into this? i will put a chain bridge for saftey. but i dont think 2 pumps is enough for hopping ? right or wrong?

I plan on ordering through showtime, has anyone dealed with them? what are some names i should look towards or stay way from?

you input is appreciated.

-brent

I dont really think accumulators are necessary unless you are running 2 ton hopping coils. My truck rides like a Caddillac and I dont have accumulators. IT is all in how you build it.

my $.02
Peace

[HelloS10]

eacyde, what are you running? and are you running it on your s10? i may hop from time to time to show off a little but im decided im just gonna stick with F/B then add a link and 1 more pump later on for S/S and standing 3wheel.

Brent

[eacyde]

Quote: Originally Posted by HelloS10

eacyde, what are you running? and are you running it on your s10? i may hop from time to time to show off a little but im decided im just gonna stick with F/B then add a link and 1 more pump later on for S/S and standing 3wheel.

Brent

2 pumps & 4 dumps gets you FBSS and moving 3-wheels. Thats what I am running in my Sonoma. As of now, I run 4-6volt batts to make 24VDC.I charge them maybe once a month It works well and is very streetable. And it rides nice, ask 02BLUEXTREME or CURBSIDE.

Check the links in my signature. the video of me hittin the switches gives you an idea, but the Batts were pretty dead so it is kind of slow.

Any other questions just holla

Peace

[HelloS10]

i want to be on the safe side so im gonna hold of on hitting side to side until i have the proper suspention.... i dont want to end up breaking someing while hitting switches

Brent

[eacyde]

Quote: Originally Posted by HelloS10

i want to be on the safe side so im gonna hold of on hitting side to side until i have the proper suspention.... i dont want to end up breaking someing while hitting switches

Brent

Never say never. once you hit some switches, you will want it to be better and faster. That means doing Sides. I have never broke anything doing a side. Leaf springs will not produce a kick ass side, but you can still do them without busting stuff.

[NoDime4myTime]

Quote: Originally Posted by eacyde

once you hit some switches, you will want it to be better and faster

for some people ya, in my case, the first time I hit a 3 was cool, the first time I ever hit a side doing 50 (left down) I damn near shit myself, and the first time I drug something.......it was over, no more clowning.

[HelloS10]

[EyePoppin]

Quote: Originally Posted by HelloS10

i have another question..... with air bags you get better performance out of your bags if you install a more suitable suspention ( such as a 4 link) , but i am clueless upon hydrolics, i guess with hydraulics you can run drow over leaf like you can with bags but.... is there anything that would need to be worked on when installing the juice? i know of chain bridges (i dont need a chain bridge) but besides that?? can someone straiten this out for me?

Why cant u run a 4 link with dros??

I did it...

[EyePoppin]

Quote: Originally Posted by HelloS10

im planning on juicing my truck hopefully just before spring break, i dont knw much but this is the setup i think is right for me:
- 2 pumps
- 4 batt (1 bay)
- 4 dumps
- 8 switch

i knw i should use accumulators for a smoothed ride but what determines how many i need? would i be fine with 2 accumulators?
also, i would be able to 3 wheel correct? just pump up, then dump one side?
any guide lines that i should knw about before juming into this? i will put a chain bridge for saftey. but i dont think 2 pumps is enough for hopping ? right or wrong?

I plan on ordering through showtime, has anyone dealed with them? what are some names i should look towards or stay way from?

you input is appreciated.

-brent

You shouldnt need accumulators unless u soild mount ure cylinders with no other spring there. Yes u will be able to three wheel, but u dont dump 1 side, u dump the opposite rear corner then the turn you are going to make i.e. (if you are going to make a left hand turn, dump ure right reat corner)
You dont need a chain bridge. I highly recommend not doing Dro over mono leaf, unless u are only going to do it for like 1 mth. i still would stear away from it. Get a 4 link, put the 4 link in at the same time as the dro's. u can hop with 2 pumps.

With Showtime, i have never dealt with them nor anyone who runs their products, I personally have never had a problem with CCE (www.coolcars.org) pumps and if u buy hijakker through them u get internal dumps (cleans up the pumps a lot not 4 other hoses sitting on top of the pumps).

I have a friend that is selling his dros right now actually if u want me to get ahold of him and see how much he wants for them. They were in satlled in a s10 but he took them out to sell the truck. If u want i can contact him, just shoot me a pm or email.

[HelloS10]

dont get me wrong, i didnt necessarily say you cant run a 4 link with droz, i was just wondering if there was a difference with running it with the two(bags or juice). i just figured they are two different things and may not be able to relate towards a 4link. thx

Brent