100% new to hydroz... how can they be mounted?

draggin_chevy · 07-16-2006, 07:12 PM

I'm trying to design a decent rear suspension and decided I wanted to go with hydraulics, but I'm stuck. What are the different ways that the cylinders can be mounted? It looks totally different than air springs that have bolt holes... I don't see any bolt holes on all of the clyinders I've looked at. Can the bodies be welded to, or would that destroy them?

I saw this picture in a thread in the baggin it forum when I was searching around (I know this is some sort of combo, but thats irrelevant, i'm only concerned with they hydro portion and how they mount):

From other pictures I've seen of cylinders, it appears that the person that installed those welded to the 'caps' of the cylinders, then threaded them back onto the cylinder body. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm trying to understand this so I can get this project in motion.

If anyone has any other good pictures of different mounting setups, please post 'em up or link me to them. Thanks!

skinnyg · 07-17-2006, 11:27 AM

www.layitlow.com should get you some basics

draggindimes · 07-28-2006, 02:25 PM

ok...uh. your gonna think im retarded but this is the only way i can figure out how to explain it. it is a hard concept to tell somebody so i thought id would tell you visually. please excuse the crude drawings

AssDragginSdime · 07-30-2006, 06:44 PM

generally you would put a coil between the sleeve and the cylinder for a better ride. allthough some put the coils at the bottom between the cylinder and axle.

but yea they just kinda sit in t here. They slide into the sleeve, which could be anything, a piece of tubing, a plate with a hole cut in it, or anything like that.. The sleeve is stationary, and would be welded to the frame in some way or another, so that it doesnt move. And the cylidner would slide in from the bottom.

Guanta · 08-01-2006, 04:23 PM

You Might Also Want To Get Some Power Balls For Your Rear Axel. And C-notch The Crap Out Of Your Frame.

zachmartin83 · 08-01-2006, 04:35 PM

the picture you showed is a hybrid suspension

draggindimes · 08-09-2006, 08:27 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Guanta

You Might Also Want To Get Some Power Balls For Your Rear Axel. And C-notch The Crap Out Of Your Frame.

why would you c notch the crap out of your frame? all you need is enough that the axle doesnt hit the bottom of it. a notch is a notch. i dont understand why people think you need a bigger notch with hydraulics. mine was small as crap and i had no issues what so ever with it. it layed out and it got lift. thats all you need

07-16-2006, 07:12 PM	#1
draggin_chevy Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6 Location: User is: OffLine	100% new to hydroz... how can they be mounted? I'm trying to design a decent rear suspension and decided I wanted to go with hydraulics, but I'm stuck. What are the different ways that the cylinders can be mounted? It looks totally different than air springs that have bolt holes... I don't see any bolt holes on all of the clyinders I've looked at. Can the bodies be welded to, or would that destroy them? I saw this picture in a thread in the baggin it forum when I was searching around (I know this is some sort of combo, but thats irrelevant, i'm only concerned with they hydro portion and how they mount): From other pictures I've seen of cylinders, it appears that the person that installed those welded to the 'caps' of the cylinders, then threaded them back onto the cylinder body. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm trying to understand this so I can get this project in motion. If anyone has any other good pictures of different mounting setups, please post 'em up or link me to them. Thanks!
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07-17-2006, 11:27 AM	#2
skinnyg Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,715 Location: Hagerstown, MD User is: OffLine	Re: 100% new to hydroz... how can they be mounted? www.layitlow.com should get you some basics
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07-28-2006, 02:25 PM	#3
draggindimes Registered User Age: 86 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 92 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 100% new to hydroz... how can they be mounted? ok...uh. your gonna think im retarded but this is the only way i can figure out how to explain it. it is a hard concept to tell somebody so i thought id would tell you visually. please excuse the crude drawings
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07-30-2006, 06:44 PM	#4
AssDragginSdime **** you Age: 22 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 8,479 Location: from the mean streets of southington, CT User is: OffLine	Re: 100% new to hydroz... how can they be mounted? generally you would put a coil between the sleeve and the cylinder for a better ride. allthough some put the coils at the bottom between the cylinder and axle. but yea they just kinda sit in t here. They slide into the sleeve, which could be anything, a piece of tubing, a plate with a hole cut in it, or anything like that.. The sleeve is stationary, and would be welded to the frame in some way or another, so that it doesnt move. And the cylidner would slide in from the bottom.
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08-01-2006, 04:23 PM	#5
Guanta Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 139 Location: Mississauga, ON User is: OffLine	Re: 100% new to hydroz... how can they be mounted? You Might Also Want To Get Some Power Balls For Your Rear Axel. And C-notch The Crap Out Of Your Frame.
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08-01-2006, 04:35 PM	#6
zachmartin83 tuckin' fx4 Age: 19 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,517 Location: western ky User is: OffLine	Re: 100% new to hydroz... how can they be mounted? the picture you showed is a hybrid suspension
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08-09-2006, 08:27 AM	#7
draggindimes Registered User Age: 86 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 92 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 100% new to hydroz... how can they be mounted? Quote: Originally Posted by Guanta You Might Also Want To Get Some Power Balls For Your Rear Axel. And C-notch The Crap Out Of Your Frame. why would you c notch the crap out of your frame? all you need is enough that the axle doesnt hit the bottom of it. a notch is a notch. i dont understand why people think you need a bigger notch with hydraulics. mine was small as crap and i had no issues what so ever with it. it layed out and it got lift. thats all you need
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