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Old 07-13-2014, 01:45 PM   #501
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thanks guys!!!! I'm lucky that Larry gave me all the flooring that he cut out when he was dropping the cab on the frame. so it'll just be a matter of laying the old pieces in and figuring out what is useless and what i can just trim.


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I only had about an hour to work on it so i figured i could slide this piece in and tack it in real fast. I'll come back next time and staighten the cuts out for the angled step pieces. I'm not sure if i should cut the floor further inward, or cut the cab part outward.

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cab outward, make sure your sill plates will still work to hold the carpet down.
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cab outward, make sure your sill plates will still work to hold the carpet down.
Ok. Thanks. I'll lay the sill plates in and draw a line so I know the farthest I can trim.
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yup you want to retain the stock sill plates if possible. Will make your life much easier when putting carpet in
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I had an hour to kill while my little guy was at camp so I drew out some lines to cut for the angled filler plates.


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Got a solid coupld hours work in on the truck. I got the sill plates cut and ready for the angled fillers and i made a box to tie in the floor over the middle body mount. it came out ok i guess, the welds look like crap across the top.










Theoretically i can make the filler pieces tomorrow and move onto the passenger side maybe sunday.
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i may be out on a limb here but is the underside of your floor rusty? if it is that is prolly why your welds are looking like that, that's thin metal to begin with. try just a brush or 2 with the wire brush under the weld and around your ground. reason i mainly know is cuz an old timer pro welder i know always makes sure both sides of his metal are just as clean.
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im not an old timer, but ive spent a lot of time behind a welder. Clean both sides, stuff that thin is going to pull contaminates from the bottom side as it pretty much burns through on each tac weld. You really should clean both sides a good bit way from the weld area on both sides on anything you weld.
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Thanks for the advise guys but it was mostly human error. I had the wire speed just a little too high. Went from 3.5 to 3 and they were much nicer. Amazingly, the underside of this cab is really clean.
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Damn I did not know about cleaning both sides. I am gonna try that next floor I work on for sure. Looking good dude. Moving at a good pace.
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made the angled fillers for the driver side.



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Daily progress for the win.
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angled fillers look so much better than a step. nice job.

and for cleaning both sides it does make a big difference. i didnt even think to clean the bottom side when doing my floor and had so many issues at first. i tried to tig weld it and it just kept spitting shit up on the tungsten so i went back to mig and it was still acting like i was welding greasy metal. what it does is pulls the paint and dirt/grease from the bottom side into the weld. also causing a weaker weld. once i realized my issue it was a night and day difference. nice call retro!
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Alright bud. Lets see some more tacking and filling.
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Alright bud. Lets see some more tacking and filling.

Had the worst luck this past week. I've been in refresher training for the past 5 days. In the past it's been a joke.....Coming in late and getting out early. Well of course this year i get the asst. director of training that's teaching the class. So it's at my building at 7am and leaving at 5pm. Which means i'm up at 4:30 am and i get home at 6. So today was the first day i had a chance to touch the truck and i only had about 2 hours to get anything done.

So basically i just cleaned up the cuts on the passenger side and got it ready to start on the fillers.





Nothing special. just nice straight lines to work with.
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Every little bit counts. Training and class owns me. Shit is crazy boring.
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Keep hitting it little by little and eventually it will be done
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Making progress.
Should have another filler done tomorrow too.





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fillers look good. i like the nice bent edge over but welding two pieces. home made brake?
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looking real good mikey
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fillers look good. i like the nice bent edge over butt welding two pieces. home made brake?
Thanks guys

i bought a brake from Harbor Freight. it's 30" wide and works great. 16g is about the max it will bend. i think theres a pic of it on the previous page.
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I think I catch more of this on fb than I do on here but its looking good and coming together. Keep it up man you'll have it together before you know it.
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i like the block of wood for a nice spacing, fillers look good. simple things help sooooooooooo much.
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It's slow and steady right now, but i'll take it. I've kinda given up on the "cranking the motor by september" goal. But it's ok.

Retro, those blocks are 3/4" which i figured is a good gap. i was gonna go a full inch, but i didn't want to give up too much.
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Hah. I was wondering about that block but forgot to ask. I approve of zip ties. Little bit at a time and it will get done. Gonna be badass!!!!!!!!!!!!
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updates bitches!!!!

So i wanted to throw a seat in to double check eveything. And i'm dead on on all 4 bolts. Also wanted to try to get the passengerside spaced up to match the driver side.







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nice man fillers in the back look great! i wana go for a ride in this thing when she's done. we will call it brake payment hahaha
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Sweet. This thing is moving right along. Bench or buckets the rear?
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nice man fillers in the back look great! i wana go for a ride in this thing when she's done. we will call it brake payment hahaha

You got it bro!!! Next summer definitely!!!!


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Sweet. This thing is moving right along. Bench or buckets the rear?
The stock bench is going back in the rear cause that section hasn't changed at all. If i measured correctly the driveshaft tunnel will come even with the stock rear floor section.


Does anyone know if someone makes an EGR blockoff plate? And if i have to make my own will a plasma cutter work on aluminum like it works on steel?
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Yes plasma works great on aluminum. Used it for the round cut out on my fan shroud with minimal slag.
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Yes plasma works great on aluminum. Used it for the round cut out on my fan shroud with minimal slag.

ok cool. just trying to figure out what i might do for the egr blockoff.
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the fillers look good mikey. will make life so much easier when you go to put carpet back in
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one more filler down





i was trying to figure out how to go further with one piece but there's a little step up on the stock floor and it just wasn't working out the way i liked. So the next piece will start with the little bump and continue to just short of the front seat bolt. hopefully i can make that piece thurs. i already have the template made so it shouldn't take me too long.
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ur welds have looked like they made a turn for the best, those tacks are looking great! please take into full consideration when doing seat mounts and seat belt mounts, welding fender washers to the floor or whatever necessary to beef them up.
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Good info. Get after it dude. I am wanting to work on anything so bad. This is keeping me going. haha.
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Still plugging away slowly but surely.
Got these 2 done and the last one for the seat basicaly figured out.
After this i can bang out nice big pieces like the floor pans and tranny tunnel!!!!

Retro, to address your concern, i'm going to come back later and add some 1/8" plate to the bottoms of all the new seat belt mounts. but i'll do that when i pull the cab, lay its back, and rhino line the bottom.





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Anyone remember how much space they left around the tranny when they did the tranny tunnel? 1"? More? Less? I want to leave enough room to get to the bell housing bolts so if i need to drop the tranny, i can do it without pulling the motor.
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between the bell housing bolts and being able to plug in the sensors i got away with 1 in. but haven't pulled the trans by itself, but at that point if you really did have a trans or motor prob and couldn't get to the bolts it really wouldn't be that big of a deal to unbolt the cab and front clip to jack it up a smidge to get to them, that's how i look at it.
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My tunnel is a little to tight to the trans. I could barley get the plug on the trans on the front passenger side sensor. I doubt i could pull my trans with out the motor but with a stripped motor and nothing really under the hood it would be easy to remove the dog house and pull the motor and trans together. I think I could do it in 2 hours easily with the little stuff needed to remove. My harness was planned for that too so it unplugs from the fuse box and computer then unhook the starter power and throttle cable and its ready to come out with the two motor bolts and one trans. Ive already thought about yanking it if you cant tell lol i want more power and an auto!!!
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i've been contemplating this idea....Making the tranny tunnel removable. That way i can hug the tranny as much as possible. and if i have to pull the tranny i can just pop the quarter turn fasteners and i can get to everything from inside the cab. instead of laying on my back struggling.
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not a bad idea
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Any updates on this beast?!
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I actually got alot done on it today. I started on the skeleton of the passenger floor pan. took me a little bit to picture how i wanted it but i think it should come out pretty good. And if i'm lucky enough i can cover most of it in one big piece and finish it off with a couple of little fillers.











I was hoping to get the whole passenger side done, but oh well.
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Looks great dude. I am gonna copy you when we do the floor on Lost Cause.
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Thanks. It's taking longer than I thought trying to keep the angles right and everything flat and level. Slightly more involved than I originally thought. Got a few more bars done last night. The wifey did alittle welding too.




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You gonna plug weld through the top or weld from the bottom to attach the sheetmetal? It always seems like it all takes forever to me to, lists and cross shit off so you feel like you are moving in the right direction all the time.
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You gonna plug weld through the top or weld from the bottom to attach the sheetmetal? It always seems like it all takes forever to me to, lists and cross shit off so you feel like you are moving in the right direction all the time.

I'm not sure yet. i'll probaby plug weld a handfull of spots to hold it down and keep it square. then i'll weld the rest underneath. I'm hoping to get th3e passenger side skeleton done this week if weather cooperates and nothing comes up.
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Good deal. Mine really took off after I finished my floor. Huge step.
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that's what i'm hoping. If i can do these floor pans in as big a piece in possible it'll obviously put a huge dent in this build.
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