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Clutch master Line replacement!
So you want to relocate your clutch master cylinder but find the stock plastic line is holding you back?
Here’s a simple way around that which will allow you to swap over to a -3 line. I faced this problem after damaging my factory clutch line. I went to the dealership and they said they do not sell the line separately. I took this opportunity to research a fitting that would allow me to change over to an “AN” style fitting. I figured this would also be a great time to help others in their quest to relocate their clutch master for laying on big wheels and or body droppin. This set up cost me around $60 1. Time to locate the fittings. You’ll have to find these Russell fittings, part # 640281. They are labeled as, “Clutch fittings with quad rings: Chrysler/Jeep #3AN male flare” (Note; I ordered these from Summit racing and spent $20.39 + handling. I had to wait about a month and a half as these fittings fittings were on back order. Through my research I’ve found others using these and others saying they are always on backorder, so PLAN AHEAD) ![]() 2. If you have an older style slave such as the one posted below you’ll be fine, and lucky since these are externally mounted. This slave is going on my 94 S10 4cyl. Here’s a new slave, roll pin and the Russell fitting. ![]() 3. Push the fitting in and you’ll need to push hard, maybe use a vise to just apply enough pressure to compress the rubber seal allowing you to press in the roll pin. I also added a cotter pin for extra safety so the roll pin can not work its way out. I’m sure this is not needed, but it won’t hurt. ![]() 4. Don’t have a externally mounted slave? Well you’ll need to pull the transmission to access your slave which contains the throw out bearing as well. These are surely an interesting unit. You’ll need to remove the slave unit with the 2 10mm bolts and remove the line. If you have trouble getting the line off, simply tap out the roll pin and remove the slave unit. Also use a pick to remove the rubber o-ring if it does not come out. ![]() 5. Here’s a comparison of the Russell fitting and the fitting that was in the slave unit. (Note; I do not have a picture of the fitting in this slave since I’m not using this slave. I had it laying around and took it apart to compare and show the fittings are the same) ![]() 6. Now on to the clutch master cylinder. Just like the rest of the parts you’ll need to remove the stock roll pin and line. Make sure to use a small pick and remove the rubber o-ring as they seem to want to stay in. ![]() 7. Comparison between the Russell fitting and the stock line/fitting. ![]() 8. You’ll need to press the fitting into the clutch master enough to compress the rubber o-ring and press the roll pin in. Again I added a cotter pin to keep the roll pin safe. ![]() 9. So there you have it. You’ve pressed in both of your fittings and can now swap over to a -3 line. ![]() 10. There are companies such as Russell, Good Ridge, Earl’s, and Nitrous companies that offer pre-made lines to certain lengths with straight, 45* and 90* fittings or you can make your own as they supply -3 fittings and line. You’ll have to do some searching around. Try Summit Racing and Jegs for starters. They tend to carry a lot of these products. I personally found a Russell line at Summit. Part # 658190 which is, “Univ Stnls Hose Asmbly -3AN 4Ft, 90* to straight.($27.99 from Summit Racing) ![]() |
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Age: 23
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
This needs to be a sticky. its very helpful even if your not body dropped. i know a lot of people's line gets effed up and then you have to buy a whole new set up just to get another line.
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
woot!
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
I didn't know where to put this info. There was a thread in here a while back. I wrote it up as a how-to kinda thing. I know most people body dropping could use this as well as the baggin guys. Any mods, feel free to move it if needed.
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Trailors Are For Boats!
Age: 23
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
jeff pullin through again!!!
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
that helps me out so much. i moved my clutch under my dash and have been tryin to figure out what to do for a line. too bad for me though mine is a 96, so I guess i'll be pullin the tranny. great post
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
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Oh So Low
Age: 21
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
bad ass mod, i melted the plastic line after i put my headder on, and now that i have the one tied back it seems like the lines pinched, a deffinate must....
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Project FooldU
Age: 21
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
i have a 99 4-cyl...i havent been under my truck in a long time, but if im not mistaken, it has an external slave, correct? i would do anything not to have to pull that transmission
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Age: 27
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
good info indeed, but if you have a hose shop local, you can bring them the stock fittings and they can crimp on a stainless braided line. you would have to cut the plastic off them, underneath is just a barb fitting like any other.
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
NikeCheck246- Most likely you have the newer style. That one I pictured was off a 97 4cyl tranny. |
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
El Heffe Watson, have i told you lately....that i love you?
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Age: 27
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
most useful thread ive seen in here for months!!!! This is extremely helpful for alot of us! Love the idea of going to a braided line with AN fittings on it!
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
Nice write up, I too have just used hydraulic hose and hose clamps. It worked out fine, you just have to reuse the stock fittings and get a hose thats the same size of ID as the fittings.
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
I agree as well to reusing the stock fittings and taking it to a hydrolic hose shop for some new line or something crimped onto those. Its all about options and what will be easier for each application and person. |
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
hell frickin yea
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
Everyone Rep this man!
Don't forget the 'Rate me ' feature. |
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Masshole
Age: 24
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
thanks jeff, great info!
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
I started looking into some things. On the newer style slave thats mounted inside the tranny. The Gold tube appears to be some kind of check valve and or orfice. Theres no way I can test if this works. In my searching I haven't found any info reguarding this. LS1 and LT1 guys were doing these types of set ups and I do believe they have a similar slave. I have no idea if eliminateing this part will cause issues. If I had extra time, I'd rip down my tranny on my other truck and try. But way too many projects
Some other info I've found is a company called, www.mcleodind.com lists some fittings that are similar to the Russell, but bigger and or 90*. They list these 3 which I've referenced from another forum, 139026 ROLL PIN FITTING MALE TO AN4 MALE STRAIGHT 139027 ROLL PIN FITTING MALE TO AN4 MALE ELBO 139028 ROLL PIN FITTING MALE TO AN3 MALE ELBO The last part number should be a 90 which could be helpful for those needing a tight bend off the master. The 2 part numbers above were listed in a forum and this picture was added. (Picture taken from this thread, http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=606483) ![]() These 2 fittings use -4 line. BUT were said to cost $45 EACH! |
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The Werk Truck
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
Wow! Thanks man! My slave was getting really shady as of late. May hav eto order these now and get a head start on the rebuild!
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ohhhh yeahhhhh
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
i went thru 3 or 4 of those damn plastic lines, and Racerx10 is right, GM doesnt sell the plastic line by itself, you gotta buy a whole new clutch amster cyylinder which is 150 i believe. im def gonna have to invest in this cause im still skeptical about the damn line melting from the exhaust heat. even after i wrapped the exhaust and the clutch line in header wrap. great write up thanks a bunch
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The way of all flesh
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
^^^^^i have never melted my clutch line, even when i ran an open exhaust manifold
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
I recently replaced my slave cylinder. I couldnt get the transmission to line back up so I had to pull the motor bolt it together and slide them both back in . I really dont want to do that again. i got everything back together truck running pushed it out into the driveway to bleed the clutch and when i was pushing the piece back in where it seperates the damn thing broke. is there anyway I can get that pin out with out pulling everything back out again. any info would help alot i cant seem to get the right angle with anything to get it out. I was thinkming of just putting a coter pin in there to hold the new cylinder in. thanks
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
def great info here.
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
can anyone explain to me how to take the quick disconnect for the slave cylinder off? I have a 1996 2.2L
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
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Project FooldU
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Re: Clutch master Line replacement!
somebody help me out here...i went to my local parker store and they told me there was no way they can do it. whats up with that?
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