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I <3 SPARKS
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
looks good how long are your lowers and where are your uppers going to mount?
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
i never measured the bars. i just gave byondsic the frame to axle measurements. he factored in the tab length and went from there i guess. I'd say 28" maybe? Uppers are the same lengh, they may need to be shortened a bit. Uppers will most likely be going to a crossmember thats not built yet. we will get the lowers in place today and see where we are at.
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www.illconformity.com
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
Got a lot done today... and its looking so badass!!!
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
Good progress so far guys, lookin good! Can't wait to see it this summer.
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2legit2quit
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
ok, we got the lower bars tacked in. a set ride height at about 5" off the ground, since i usually cruise pretty low. the bars are at a bit of an angle to the frame at this height. hopefully its OK though.
![]() got the stock mounts cut off the frame. the motor is just stitting there, not in place. my adapters are offset, which makes squaring it up a bitch, since they are meant to offset the motor 3/8" to the passenger side. anyways, the motor sits about 2.5" lower then before like this, which is good news. i'll probably notch a bit of the x-member since its pretty close to the pan now. ![]() I'm gonna use shanes mounts (not offset) to square the motor up with, hopefully tomorrow if i can. then we're going to tack the stock mounts to the crossmember, pull the motor and drill some holes so we can bolt them up. trans angle will be 4' down. we tacked the axle to the frame once we had it all centered up and angled properly. so now it will stay stationary at ride height while we weld up the rest of the 4 link. ![]() this is how i wanted to do the uppers (not on the driveshaft, but angled towards the center area there. but its not going to work. the rear section is too narrow to get a good angle on the bars without shoretening them up alot. so tomorrow i am getting a piece of tube bent hopefully to weld across the cast section and the bars will come out from the center of the dif. ![]() |
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
Lookin awsome joel I'll Prob Be there tommorow If your working
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
looks killer man cant wait to see it done.
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
Ya the bars pointing down at ride height is fine. However the bar angles in that pic are no good, you dont ever want the uppers to be pointing up while the lowers are pointing down. I know theyre just sitting on the shaft in that pic but its just a heads up. Make sure when you make the bars permanant, theyre either parallel to each other or better yet the uppers are pointing down slightly when compared to the lowers. Also the engine is offset from the center of the truck from the factory, usually about 1/2". |
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www.illconformity.com
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
iLLblazer typing:
no worries, the bars will be set parallel to each other at ride height. its just sitting on there in the pic... so the motor should be offset 1/2" to the passenger side from factory? good to know. does the transmission mount get centered though, or should it be offset as well? |
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Registered User
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
dammit boy looking tight, i gotta come check it out sooon, HAPPY BDAY !!!, cause i forgot to call you today.
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
werd i just like to make sure or at least give others who are payin attn a heads up... its not that it 'should' be offset but it is from the factory, so that may be why your measurements may have looked off. you can center it if you wish with no problems but my GM datasheets show the centerline of the engine being 12mm (.47") over to the pass side.
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
hey bro what size tubbing you gonna use for the tranny crossmember.
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2legit2quit
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
crossmember is 2x3 with 3" tube going through it for the exhaust. didn't get it quite done today though:
![]() got some tube bent to run the upper bars off of, and used a couple extra pieces to add a bit of strength where the rear rails join up. I'm getting some more done to make another crossmember to mount the uppers too soon. ![]() |
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
Some bad ass work got done today!!! diggin it!!!
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
jeez, all this tube work and no comments? ah well, hopefully some more will get done today, but shanes weder is acting up apparentley, so we need to get that sorted out.
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Hell Yeah I Drag!!
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
Sorry man forgot to post after i looked at it. It looks killer man. Your definetly making some head way towards getting it done as a rolling chassis for the summer.
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
damn man been away from the forum a couple days...looks for killer...cant wait to see it done...im still trying to get my blazer done
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
Looks PIMP. Keep up the good work
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
looks good man, what are ya bending it with?
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I <3 SPARKS
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
Sick
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
cmon dont kid yerself..
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2legit2quit
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
k trans crossmember is almost done. we have to make a new longer mounting tab in the middle because we decided to move it back a bit on the frame to mount it on a flat surface, (it was overlapping part of the 3/16 boxing before) this thing was shanes baby and he did an awesome job.
![]() the tubing was bent by another local shop here. shane hasn't found a good spot, or the time to set his up yet. ![]() the upper bars and crossmember are not welded in yet. crossmember is just tacked. we are having an issue getting the anlge of the bars to match the lowers. they are angled down towards the front more. this pic will show how much... ![]() will this be an issue? i know avtekk posted that the uppers could be angled up more then the lowers...but more angled towards the front ot back of the truck? i think longer tabs to mount to the crossmember may pretty much fix this if necessary. heres a shot from the back for kicks. ![]() |
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
that crossmember is gold...
the whole thing is all coming together nicely... each and everytime ya work on it... well done J-Roc! |
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
looks sweet
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Center your wheels!
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
if you mount the upper bars directly to the pig of the rearend instead of on that bar that goes higher than the pig it should fix your angle problem.
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www.illconformity.com
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
but i could be wrong. |
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2legit2quit
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
Make longer front mount tabs for the upper bars...
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Center your wheels!
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
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2legit2quit
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
then the bars will be running under the frame rails and will hit the frame...
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I <3 SPARKS
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
yeah.. longer front tabs and shorter rear tabs.
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
hows the pinion angle change throughout your usuable travel? it its only a few degrees then id leave the bars. but ifs its a lot then rasie the front tabs up a bit so the upper bars are a little less angled when compared to the lowers. but check the pinion because if its ok then i wouldnt move em.
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2legit2quit
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
k cool. i did not check yet cause i didn't want to weld the bars if for sure they were no good. i will tack in the mounts and give it a shot this weekend hopefully.
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Hell Yeah I Drag!!
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
It's always better to have the upper bars tilting slightly down ward towards the front of the truck. Usually a degree is enough to help with pinion angle change. How many degrees different are they from one another.
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2legit2quit
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
8-10
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Hell Yeah I Drag!!
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
Not gonna sugar coat it for ya . Your more then likely going to have to change that to about 2-3 at the most. Especially with the amount of lift your going to be getting. 8-10 will throw the pinion angle out by a fair bit over a decent amount of travel. Give it a try though it can't hurt for the time it takes to tack the bars in. What i would do is run another piece of tube parralell to the one they are already mounted on about one two inches higher or whatever it takes. Don't just use longer tabs it won't look right at all. By the way tranny crossmember looks killer.
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2legit2quit
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
yeah i considered adding a couple extra pieces higher up, but that means shortening the bars, not a huge deal, i was just trying to avoid doing it. whats the best way? cut off the welded end and re notch and weld it? or cut off the threaded end and re thread the inside?
adding longer tabs will also out the bars above the rails, which sucks, cuz then i am building my floor around the bars. |
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Hell Yeah I Drag!!
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
It's up to you as far as shortening the bars. If you have the tap you can cut the threaded end off and rethread it or if not and you have access to coping them you can cut off the endlink cope the tube and re-tig on the endlink.
Both are about the same amount of work. |
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2legit2quit
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
alrighty, we'll see how she goes.
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Hell Yeah I Drag!!
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
Let me know if you need a hand. If worse comes to worse send the bars back to me unmodified and let me know a length and i'll send you another set right away. You tell me what length and i'll ship them off that night
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
lookin good bro
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2legit2quit
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
ya 8-10 is a bit much. but watch when you go changing things, you dont want the bar lengths too different from each other either..
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2legit2quit
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
ok put the angle finder on the dif today and checked the pinion throughout suspension travel. I can get 12" of lift before the driveshaft hits the frame. layed out, pinion is 0 degrees, ride height is 2, and at 12" lift its 3 degrees. is this OK?
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2legit2quit
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
here are some pics from today. there is a fullsize in the shop for a full bag install on 20s. we got the box off and shane welded the sideplates for the notch in. the guy is using the KP 6 link on it, bolt on, but i was pretty impressed with the quality of it. some of the brackets will just get welded anyways.
my truck has been given the boot outside for now. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Anybody got 20's?
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
Looks awesome man. You are getting me motivated. One question though. What is the purpose of that stacked metal on the tranny tailshaft?
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
looks good man... why not notch that lower crossmember to allow the driveshaft to clear a few more inches. although 12" is alot of lift you dont want the driveshaft rubbing at full lift when your riding around. again looks great!
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2legit2quit
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
i honestly have no clue. its my buddies transmission out of his astro van. some sort of vibration dampner maybe? its friggin weird.
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2legit2quit
Age: 24
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Re: Blazer SFBD Progress
once i get the rest of the rear suspension, i will determine whether or not to notch it/cut it out. dont want to do it if i don't need to though. but i think i will. i have some ideas brewing in my melon. ![]() |
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