C5 Z06 Vette Brakes

BLACKZQ8stepside · 06-29-2008, 03:03 PM

I finally have my front brakes done, they work really well

BLACKZQ8stepside · 06-29-2008, 03:09 PM

And I want to give a big thanks to Bad94 for providing the brackets, Tobin Knighton from Kore3 for the custom SS brake hoses, GeorgesBlazah for the Hawk Brake pads and Dennis Aker for the mock up parts in the early stages of the project

jakethegriff · 06-29-2008, 03:15 PM

wow! they look great, I'm in the works of building my set up right now, i'll be doing all four wheels, where did you get your calipers from?

greencactus3 · 06-29-2008, 03:23 PM

looks good
which spindle is that?

BLACKZQ8stepside · 06-29-2008, 03:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by jakethegriff

wow! they look great, I'm in the works of building my set up right now, i'll be doing all four wheels, where did you get your calipers from?

Thanks,...I'm doing all 4 as well, I have an 8.5" Blazer rear end with discs in my basement ready to go in,....

calipers were found on ebay, but there are lots of places that sell them, including Kore3, expect to pay around $100 each

BLACKZQ8stepside · 06-29-2008, 08:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3

looks good
which spindle is that?

thanks, the spindle is 2wd Blazer

King_Ice_Flash2 · 06-29-2008, 09:02 PM

Would he be interested in selling the brackets?

BLACKZQ8stepside · 06-29-2008, 09:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by King_Ice_Flash2

Would he be interested in selling the brackets?

I think he probably would, he sold them to me. PM him and ask about C5 brake conversion brackets, tell him BLACKZQ8stepside sent you

dhernandez123 · 06-29-2008, 09:10 PM

[quote=BLACKZQ8stepside;5372841]I finally have my front brakes done, they work really well

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are they selling kits for a first gen?

greencactus3 · 06-29-2008, 09:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by dhernandez123

are they selling kits for a first gen?

same thing between first and second gens.

i can mill brackets easy if you give me dimensions of what you need.

BLACKZQ8stepside · 06-29-2008, 09:26 PM

[quote=dhernandez123;5373658]

Quote: Originally Posted by BLACKZQ8stepside

I finally have my front brakes done, they work really well

[/qu
are they selling kits for a first gen?

It's not really a kit, you just buy the brackets and all the parts and put them together, most expensive part of the swap is converting to 98+ blazer hubs and spindles

ohsolos10 · 06-29-2008, 09:29 PM

are your rotors installed backwards in the pic with out the wheel they look right but the others they look backwards

dhernandez123 · 06-29-2008, 09:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3

same thing between first and second gens.

i can mill brackets easy if you give me dimensions of what you need.

what am i measuring?

dhernandez123 · 06-29-2008, 09:32 PM

[quote=BLACKZQ8stepside;5373714]

Quote: Originally Posted by dhernandez123

It's not really a kit, you just buy the brackets and all the parts and put them together, most expensive part of the swap is converting to 98+ blazer hubs and spindles

do i have to update to a 98+ hubs?

1BadElky · 06-29-2008, 09:53 PM

what prop valve and MC will you be running after the rear swap?

BLACKZQ8stepside · 06-29-2008, 10:00 PM

[quote=dhernandez123;5373732]

Quote: Originally Posted by BLACKZQ8stepside

do i have to update to a 98+ hubs?

for this swap, yes,...the bracket only works with 98+ blazer spindles

BLACKZQ8stepside · 06-29-2008, 10:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1BadElky

what prop valve and MC will you be running after the rear swap?

not sure about that, I guess I'll do the back and see how things go. I'll probably do a little more research on the subject, maybe checkout some the Vette forums

greencactus3 · 06-29-2008, 10:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by dhernandez123

what am i measuring?

everything. i can make what you tell me to, or you can send me all the parts and i can design a bracket that works.

Quote: Originally Posted by dhernandez123

do i have to update to a 98+ hubs?

it makes it a shitton easier. otherwise you need to turn down the stock rotors and use that as a hub

BLACKZQ8stepside · 06-29-2008, 10:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ohsolos10

are your rotors installed backwards in the pic with out the wheel they look right but the others they look backwards

According to the rotor instructions, the pic without the wheel is wrong, I ended up double checking the instructions, and changed them after the pic was taken, but yeah, I've had a few people tell me the way the instructions show is wrong

s10cyncrvr · 06-29-2008, 10:14 PM

They look great. Do you know what coating is on the rotors? They're shiney.

BLACKZQ8stepside · 06-29-2008, 10:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by s10cyncrvr

They look great. Do you know what coating is on the rotors? They're shiney.

Thanks, they're nickel plated

01cherryreds10 · 06-29-2008, 10:52 PM

Gorgeous!

Along with the brackets for the caliper coversion, doesn't Bad94 also make the hubs that will work with drop spindles? I've tried getting ahold of him and I also tried emailing Ed Miller and I didn't get anything back

Those are the 14" rotors correct?

BLACKZQ8stepside · 06-29-2008, 11:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 01cherryreds10

Gorgeous!

Along with the brackets for the caliper coversion, doesn't Bad94 also make the hubs that will work with drop spindles? I've tried getting ahold of him and I also tried emailing Ed Miller and I didn't get anything back

Those are the 14" rotors correct?

I could be wrong about this, but I don't think S10 spindles will work with this conversion, keep trying Bad94, he's responded to all my PMs,...and the rotors are 13"

01cherryreds10 · 06-29-2008, 11:22 PM

Aha, thank you. I've heard that it will work with 2" drop S10 spindles, and that it won't. I'll try getting in contact with him again. I'll be doing the C5 calipers with 12" discs to fit the ZQ8 wheels.

ohsolos10 · 06-29-2008, 11:30 PM

Which direction should the discs rotate?
It is a popular misconception that the slots or drillings in a disc determine the direction of rotation. In truth, for an internally vented disc, the geometry of the vanes dictates the direction of rotation. There are three vane types in use:

* Straight
* Pillar vane (comprised of many small posts)
* Curved vane

The first two vane types are non-directional, and can be used on either side of the vehicle. The curved vane disc, however, is directional. A curved vane disc must be installed with the vanes running back from the inside to outside diameters in the direction of rotation. Please see figure. Orienting the disc in the manner creates a centrifugal pump. The rotation of the disc causes air to be pumped from the center of the disc, through the vanes, and out through the outside diameter of the disc. This greatly enhances the disc's ability to dissipate heat.

Additionally, all of Brembo's slotted discs are directional as well, regardless of the vane geometry. The discs should be installed such that the end of the slot nearest the outer edge of the disc contacts the pad first. Please see figure.

thats from the brembo site after i saw it i did some reasearch

jakethegriff · 06-29-2008, 11:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BLACKZQ8stepside

Thanks,...I'm doing all 4 as well, I have an 8.5" Blazer rear end with discs in my basement ready to go in,....

calipers were found on ebay, but there are lots of places that sell them, including Kore3, expect to pay around $100 each

cool, that's where i was planning buying mine as well. hope they end up looking somewhat close to yours. I love them on there

01cherryreds10 · 06-29-2008, 11:52 PM

If you check out some Corvette forums guys have them for sale for like $80 a piece.

dhernandez123 · 06-30-2008, 02:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BLACKZQ8stepside

I could be wrong about this, but I don't think S10 spindles will work with this conversion, keep trying Bad94, he's responded to all my PMs,...and the rotors are 13"

sorry to bug. but could i get a parts list of all i need and should do to make this conversion? i have a first gen 91 s10 4.3? thanks for the help.

dhernandez123 · 06-30-2008, 03:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3

everything. i can make what you tell me to, or you can send me all the parts and i can design a bracket that works.

it makes it a shitton easier. otherwise you need to turn down the stock rotors and use that as a hub

ok so lets say i wanted to do that exact swap? i have 18 inch irocs so i dont think clearance would be a problem? i have no idea what the bracket looks like pm me? and how much are we talking about with the brackets

greencactus3 · 06-30-2008, 05:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by dhernandez123

ok so lets say i wanted to do that exact swap? i have 18 inch irocs so i dont think clearance would be a problem? i have no idea what the bracket looks like pm me? and how much are we talking about with the brackets

dude, ive never done this exact conversion before either.
im just saying i have the capabilities of making the bracket.

Bad94 · 06-30-2008, 10:21 PM

Glad to see you got ur set up on.

I have done C5 set up on reg s-10 2" spindle and 98 up blazer 2" drop spindle.

Im working on stock spindle C5 set up, and C6 ZO6 set ups.

Also as for rotor, i have been told that the pic with out the wheel is right and the others are wrong.

06-29-2008, 03:03 PM	#1
BLACKZQ8stepside STPSYDR Age: 43 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,469 Location: Rockford, Illinois User is: OffLine	C5 Z06 Vette Brakes I finally have my front brakes done, they work really well
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06-29-2008, 03:09 PM	#2
BLACKZQ8stepside STPSYDR Age: 43 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,469 Location: Rockford, Illinois User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes And I want to give a big thanks to Bad94 for providing the brackets, Tobin Knighton from Kore3 for the custom SS brake hoses, GeorgesBlazah for the Hawk Brake pads and Dennis Aker for the mock up parts in the early stages of the project
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06-29-2008, 03:15 PM	#3
jakethegriff + + + + + + + + Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 17,060 Location: Minneapolis, MN User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes wow! they look great, I'm in the works of building my set up right now, i'll be doing all four wheels, where did you get your calipers from?
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06-29-2008, 03:23 PM	#4
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06-29-2008, 03:23 PM	#5
BLACKZQ8stepside STPSYDR Age: 43 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,469 Location: Rockford, Illinois User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Quote: Originally Posted by jakethegriff wow! they look great, I'm in the works of building my set up right now, i'll be doing all four wheels, where did you get your calipers from? Thanks,...I'm doing all 4 as well, I have an 8.5" Blazer rear end with discs in my basement ready to go in,.... calipers were found on ebay, but there are lots of places that sell them, including Kore3, expect to pay around $100 each Last edited by BLACKZQ8stepside : 06-29-2008 at 03:25 PM.
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06-29-2008, 08:43 PM	#6
BLACKZQ8stepside STPSYDR Age: 43 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,469 Location: Rockford, Illinois User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3 looks good which spindle is that? thanks, the spindle is 2wd Blazer
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06-29-2008, 09:02 PM	#7
King_Ice_Flash2 Will work for turbo parts Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,897 Location: SE, WI User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Would he be interested in selling the brackets?
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06-29-2008, 09:06 PM	#8
BLACKZQ8stepside STPSYDR Age: 43 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,469 Location: Rockford, Illinois User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Quote: Originally Posted by King_Ice_Flash2 Would he be interested in selling the brackets? I think he probably would, he sold them to me. PM him and ask about C5 brake conversion brackets, tell him BLACKZQ8stepside sent you
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06-29-2008, 09:10 PM	#9
dhernandez123 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 189 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes [quote=BLACKZQ8stepside;5372841]I finally have my front brakes done, they work really well [/qu are they selling kits for a first gen?
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06-29-2008, 09:23 PM	#10
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 20 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 22,461 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Quote: Originally Posted by dhernandez123 are they selling kits for a first gen? same thing between first and second gens. i can mill brackets easy if you give me dimensions of what you need.
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06-29-2008, 09:26 PM	#11
BLACKZQ8stepside STPSYDR Age: 43 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,469 Location: Rockford, Illinois User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes [quote=dhernandez123;5373658] Quote: Originally Posted by BLACKZQ8stepside I finally have my front brakes done, they work really well [/qu are they selling kits for a first gen? It's not really a kit, you just buy the brackets and all the parts and put them together, most expensive part of the swap is converting to 98+ blazer hubs and spindles
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06-29-2008, 09:29 PM	#12
ohsolos10 sawzall's are cool Age: 31 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,303 Location: holloman afb nm User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes are your rotors installed backwards in the pic with out the wheel they look right but the others they look backwards
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06-29-2008, 09:31 PM	#13
dhernandez123 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 189 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3 same thing between first and second gens. i can mill brackets easy if you give me dimensions of what you need. what am i measuring?
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06-29-2008, 09:32 PM	#14
dhernandez123 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 189 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes [quote=BLACKZQ8stepside;5373714] Quote: Originally Posted by dhernandez123 It's not really a kit, you just buy the brackets and all the parts and put them together, most expensive part of the swap is converting to 98+ blazer hubs and spindles do i have to update to a 98+ hubs?
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06-29-2008, 09:53 PM	#15
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06-29-2008, 10:00 PM	#16
BLACKZQ8stepside STPSYDR Age: 43 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,469 Location: Rockford, Illinois User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes [quote=dhernandez123;5373732] Quote: Originally Posted by BLACKZQ8stepside do i have to update to a 98+ hubs? for this swap, yes,...the bracket only works with 98+ blazer spindles
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06-29-2008, 10:03 PM	#17
BLACKZQ8stepside STPSYDR Age: 43 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,469 Location: Rockford, Illinois User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Quote: Originally Posted by 1BadElky what prop valve and MC will you be running after the rear swap? not sure about that, I guess I'll do the back and see how things go. I'll probably do a little more research on the subject, maybe checkout some the Vette forums
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06-29-2008, 10:05 PM	#18
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 20 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 22,461 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Quote: Originally Posted by dhernandez123 what am i measuring? everything. i can make what you tell me to, or you can send me all the parts and i can design a bracket that works. Quote: Originally Posted by dhernandez123 do i have to update to a 98+ hubs? it makes it a shitton easier. otherwise you need to turn down the stock rotors and use that as a hub
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06-29-2008, 10:12 PM	#19
BLACKZQ8stepside STPSYDR Age: 43 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,469 Location: Rockford, Illinois User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Quote: Originally Posted by ohsolos10 are your rotors installed backwards in the pic with out the wheel they look right but the others they look backwards According to the rotor instructions, the pic without the wheel is wrong, I ended up double checking the instructions, and changed them after the pic was taken, but yeah, I've had a few people tell me the way the instructions show is wrong
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06-29-2008, 10:14 PM	#20
s10cyncrvr Canyon Carver Age: 28 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,723 Location: Columbia, IL User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes They look great. Do you know what coating is on the rotors? They're shiney.
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06-29-2008, 10:26 PM	#21
BLACKZQ8stepside STPSYDR Age: 43 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,469 Location: Rockford, Illinois User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Quote: Originally Posted by s10cyncrvr They look great. Do you know what coating is on the rotors? They're shiney. Thanks, they're nickel plated
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06-29-2008, 10:52 PM	#22
01cherryreds10 Wanna see some magic? Age: 18 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,210 Location: Illinois User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Gorgeous! Along with the brackets for the caliper coversion, doesn't Bad94 also make the hubs that will work with drop spindles? I've tried getting ahold of him and I also tried emailing Ed Miller and I didn't get anything back Those are the 14" rotors correct?
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06-29-2008, 11:08 PM	#23
BLACKZQ8stepside STPSYDR Age: 43 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,469 Location: Rockford, Illinois User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Quote: Originally Posted by 01cherryreds10 Gorgeous! Along with the brackets for the caliper coversion, doesn't Bad94 also make the hubs that will work with drop spindles? I've tried getting ahold of him and I also tried emailing Ed Miller and I didn't get anything back Those are the 14" rotors correct? I could be wrong about this, but I don't think S10 spindles will work with this conversion, keep trying Bad94, he's responded to all my PMs,...and the rotors are 13"
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06-29-2008, 11:22 PM	#24
01cherryreds10 Wanna see some magic? Age: 18 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,210 Location: Illinois User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Aha, thank you. I've heard that it will work with 2" drop S10 spindles, and that it won't. I'll try getting in contact with him again. I'll be doing the C5 calipers with 12" discs to fit the ZQ8 wheels.
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06-29-2008, 11:30 PM	#25
ohsolos10 sawzall's are cool Age: 31 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,303 Location: holloman afb nm User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Which direction should the discs rotate? It is a popular misconception that the slots or drillings in a disc determine the direction of rotation. In truth, for an internally vented disc, the geometry of the vanes dictates the direction of rotation. There are three vane types in use: * Straight * Pillar vane (comprised of many small posts) * Curved vane The first two vane types are non-directional, and can be used on either side of the vehicle. The curved vane disc, however, is directional. A curved vane disc must be installed with the vanes running back from the inside to outside diameters in the direction of rotation. Please see figure. Orienting the disc in the manner creates a centrifugal pump. The rotation of the disc causes air to be pumped from the center of the disc, through the vanes, and out through the outside diameter of the disc. This greatly enhances the disc's ability to dissipate heat. Additionally, all of Brembo's slotted discs are directional as well, regardless of the vane geometry. The discs should be installed such that the end of the slot nearest the outer edge of the disc contacts the pad first. Please see figure. thats from the brembo site after i saw it i did some reasearch
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06-29-2008, 11:39 PM	#26
jakethegriff + + + + + + + + Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 17,060 Location: Minneapolis, MN User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Quote: Originally Posted by BLACKZQ8stepside Thanks,...I'm doing all 4 as well, I have an 8.5" Blazer rear end with discs in my basement ready to go in,.... calipers were found on ebay, but there are lots of places that sell them, including Kore3, expect to pay around $100 each cool, that's where i was planning buying mine as well. hope they end up looking somewhat close to yours. I love them on there
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06-29-2008, 11:52 PM	#27
01cherryreds10 Wanna see some magic? Age: 18 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,210 Location: Illinois User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes If you check out some Corvette forums guys have them for sale for like $80 a piece.
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06-30-2008, 02:46 PM	#28
dhernandez123 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 189 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Quote: Originally Posted by BLACKZQ8stepside I could be wrong about this, but I don't think S10 spindles will work with this conversion, keep trying Bad94, he's responded to all my PMs,...and the rotors are 13" sorry to bug. but could i get a parts list of all i need and should do to make this conversion? i have a first gen 91 s10 4.3? thanks for the help.
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06-30-2008, 03:24 PM	#29
dhernandez123 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 189 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3 everything. i can make what you tell me to, or you can send me all the parts and i can design a bracket that works. it makes it a shitton easier. otherwise you need to turn down the stock rotors and use that as a hub ok so lets say i wanted to do that exact swap? i have 18 inch irocs so i dont think clearance would be a problem? i have no idea what the bracket looks like pm me? and how much are we talking about with the brackets
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06-30-2008, 05:42 PM	#30
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 20 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 22,461 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Quote: Originally Posted by dhernandez123 ok so lets say i wanted to do that exact swap? i have 18 inch irocs so i dont think clearance would be a problem? i have no idea what the bracket looks like pm me? and how much are we talking about with the brackets dude, ive never done this exact conversion before either. im just saying i have the capabilities of making the bracket.
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06-30-2008, 10:21 PM	#31
Bad94 Static> Bags Age: 23 Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,576 Location: Cincy User is: OffLine	Re: C5 Z06 Vette Brakes Glad to see you got ur set up on. I have done C5 set up on reg s-10 2" spindle and 98 up blazer 2" drop spindle. Im working on stock spindle C5 set up, and C6 ZO6 set ups. Also as for rotor, i have been told that the pic with out the wheel is right and the others are wrong.
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