"Brand New Tires" really 6 years old ???

[Stache]

Someone sent me this link:

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4826897

Any comments??

[terryl]

Yea, ain't that some BS! I saw this when it aired a couple of months ago. Went and checked mine and the wifey's tire and I did find one on hers that was 3 years older than the other three.

[Stache]

Checked my wifey's and her "Brand New" Cooper Cobra's (bought in April '08) have the date made code ground off cleaner than the serial # on a crack dealer's handgun.

Three of her snows were made in '04 (makes sense they were bought in Fall '05) but one also has the date made area ground smooth.

[nmitchell86]

I just figured out about this the hard way while on a trip from Key West, FL to WI. I had the tread come clean off the tires inner tube structure at 80MPH while pulling a trailer on I-75 north of Tampa FL.

I bought the set a year ago from COX CHEVY in Bradenton FL.

I'd like to take this moment to post A BIG F%CK YOU TO COX CHEVY IN BRADENTON FLORIDA!!!

If there is anyone on here who wants to defend COX CHEVY or works at COX CHEVY... F%CK YOU TOO.

The tire in question was really 6 years old another was 4 and the other two where 3. At the time of the event they had less than 9,000 miles on them and I rotated them at 6,000 miles. I always keep the pressure at 44 PSI as listed on the side of the tire.

When the event happened it causes a lot of damage to the bed floor and support rail. I almost whipped the trailer into some other cars. At first General/ Continental Tire would not do anything but I had all my paper work and questioned the shit out of there customer service people about their warrenty so now they sent me a claim report package. I reported all of this to my insurance company so if they dick me around (which I expect) then i'll sic the insurance company on them (which they said they would get them)

[Jess]

hmmm. my daily has 11 years old tires on it. the original wheels and tires from my 97.

[terryl]

Can you say POP!

[Gearstix]

EEEEEEkkkk...
Gunna check my BFGs before I gets them installed.

[Merritj2417]

i'm gonna check mine when i leave work this morning

[Dr.pRymer]

Just checked my nexans 44th week of 2007

[2k2indigoxtreme]

Quote: Originally Posted by nmitchell86

The tire in question was really 6 years old another was 4 and the other two where 3. At the time of the event they had less than 9,000 miles on them and I rotated them at 6,000 miles. I always keep the pressure at 44 PSI as listed on the side of the tire.

Not to harass you, i feel for your situation. But I work at a car dealership in service. I'll be the first to say, you should NOT follow the tire manufacturers psi setup. It CLEARLY states MAX pressure of 40-50 depending on the tire. If you are running 44psi in your tires, you are wearing them incorrectly. Check the VEHICLE manufacturers tire tag in the door for proper vehicle pressure rating. That would EASILY contribute to your blowout.

With that being said, I will tell you that we order tires from warehouses, we do not check the dates that they were produced as this is obviously not a very well known problem at the peon level in the industry. I could guarantee that we would send tires back, and now seeing this I will personally show our entire parts dept tomorrow. Thats ****ed up.

[Dans93PRO]

Thank you about the post up above I work for tire kingdom and trust me you do not want to put the MAX air pressure in the tires!!!! that really is " can you say POP" like he said put it to what it says in the owners manual or the tag in the door. I see that everyday, the funny thing is i have been telling this to people for years but since i sell them i dont have a clue what im talking about. but ya check your tires not every shop does it we checked our inventory and trust me tires fly off our shop all day everyday so we dont have that problem. i show people and they still dont buy new ones but all i can do is inform. later guys

[BTE]

Quote:

Not to harass you, i feel for your situation. But I work at a car dealership in service. I'll be the first to say, you should NOT follow the tire manufacturers psi setup. It CLEARLY states MAX pressure of 40-50 depending on the tire. If you are running 44psi in your tires, you are wearing them incorrectly. Check the VEHICLE manufacturers tire tag in the door for proper vehicle pressure rating. That would EASILY contribute to your blowout.

I agree, alot of people don't maintain their tires as they should. And poorly maintained tires are very dangerous. The majority of tire failures stem from improper/poor maintenance.
I used to work for a tire shop that dealt primarily with semi truck tires, and we had to check the date on each casing before it went in to be re-treaded. If they were older than a certain date, they were scrapped.

[Jess]

Quote: Originally Posted by terryl

Can you say POP!

are you refering to me ? if so, you DON'T know what you are talking about. i have had them on this truck for 4 years, and i run them at 40 psi. other than getting worn down(about 30% left), they are fine. but, these tires were not driven on for 11 years, they were in storage for many years, maybe 4-5 years. and YES, i DO KNOW what i am talking about.

now that i think about it. the back tires on my 97 are about 8 years old, about 8-10,000 miles on em. and are about 50% worn. other than that, they are fine. 100% garage kept.

[rmeitz167]

I have falken ziex 512's and i cant find a date on them? they were purchased from discount tire direct about a week ago, gonna get them mounted and balanced at the dealkership i work at, how can i find the number. It says made in japan would that have something to do with it?

[BTE]

I just checked my ziex 512's it should be right before it says made in Japan, the last 4 digits in the bubble.
Mine were made in the 7th and 8th weeks of 07

[terryl]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jess

are you refering to me ? if so, you DON'T know what you are talking about. i have had them on this truck for 4 years, and i run them at 40 psi. other than getting worn down(about 30% left), they are fine. but, these tires were not driven on for 11 years, they were in storage for many years, maybe 4-5 years. and YES, i DO KNOW what i am talking about.

now that i think about it. the back tires on my 97 are about 8 years old, about 8-10,000 miles on em. and are about 50% worn. other than that, they are fine. 100% garage kept.

Did you watch the ABC documentory in the first post? I can positively tell that it can happen. Not only can it happen, it did happen to me. I inherited a car from my grandmother when she pasted. She (like most older ladies) only drove it 2 miles to the store and hairdresser once a week. When I got the car, the tires had been on it 7-8 years and had less the 5000 miles on them! The car was always garaged. I drove it for one week before I blew the right front on the interstate at around 70. It also torn up the fender, but fortunately nothing else. The tires looked fine on the outside. So all I can say is it can happen. It did happen. And it could happen to you. Jess, I'm not trying to pick a fight, just telling you of my experience.

[2k2indigoxtreme]

Just an FYI as well, tires max pressure on the sidewall is about half if not 1/3 of its bursting pressure. I put 255 30 22 on my wheels this year, and the bead would not seat for the life of me. We filled that bitch to 100psi before it seated. Yes I know what I am doing also, so please dont run yo mouth lol. But really an overfilled tire will just make the tire wear irregularly and cause excess stress on the radial and fabric layers. it may stand up, it may slowly cause the rubber to seperate, ending in catastrophic failure of the tread.

[Jess]

Quote: Originally Posted by terryl

Did you watch the ABC documentory in the first post? I can positively tell that it can happen. Not only can it happen, it did happen to me. I inherited a car from my grandmother when she pasted. She (like most older ladies) only drove it 2 miles to the store and hairdresser once a week. When I got the car, the tires had been on it 7-8 years and had less the 5000 miles on them! The car was always garaged. I drove it for one week before I blew the right front on the interstate at around 70. It also torn up the fender, but fortunately nothing else. The tires looked fine on the outside. So all I can say is it can happen. It did happen. And it could happen to you. Jess, I'm not trying to pick a fight, just telling you of my experience.

i think that is a defect, and not caused by age. i have seen tires with 500 miles on em blow out.

and i have had to put 100 psi in a tire to get it to bead. but i did't stand close to it.

[terryl]

Could be a defect. But didn't blow the first 5000. These tires were on a full size car and running 32 lbs. I'm not one of those into running max pressure. Never know I guess.

[nmitchell86]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2k2indigoxtreme

Not to harass you, i feel for your situation. But I work at a car dealership in service. I'll be the first to say, you should NOT follow the tire manufacturers psi setup. It CLEARLY states MAX pressure of 40-50 depending on the tire. If you are running 44psi in your tires, you are wearing them incorrectly. Check the VEHICLE manufacturers tire tag in the door for proper vehicle pressure rating. That would EASILY contribute to your blowout.

With that being said, I will tell you that we order tires from warehouses, we do not check the dates that they were produced as this is obviously not a very well known problem at the peon level in the industry. I could guarantee that we would send tires back, and now seeing this I will personally show our entire parts dept tomorrow. Thats ****ed up.

When I bought the tires I was under the impression that they were bran new. According to the manf. they where bran new even though they where sitting on a shelf for 6 to 3 years. They said that there tires are new until put into service... even 6 years later.

It's funny the tire reads 44PSI and the door tag reads 35PSI Cold Tire. I never knew that!

So that brings me to my next question about all the "GREEN" advice about filling your tire to the tires PSI for better mileage. Which is better/ more correct?

Also my F - U to COX Chevy still stands. It's not to all the other Service Centers out there that I have done business with that have always provided great service and explained things to me, saved bad parts, showed me under my truck and things like that.

[2k2indigoxtreme]

The vehicle manufacturer specifically states that tire pressure per vehicle based on tread wear, fuel mileage, and load capacity/performance. Its is optimum per vehicle and the facotry tire size.

[ChrisInVT]

I have to fill two tires on my car to 50PSI so by the time I get out of work they'll be around 35-40 PSI, and by the next morning they'll be down to 20 and stay there... Brand new fvckin tires too (only been on the car for 5 months, and they were manufactured last year).

[2k2indigoxtreme]

Sweet, that means you have a leak, that does not really have much to do with your tire. I put a brand new Toyo on my 20, picked up a screw the same day. Tough luck

[ChrisInVT]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2k2indigoxtreme

that means you have a leak, that does not really have much to do with your tire

The tires that I had on the car before didn't leak at all, I even brought it back to the tire place and they cleaned the rims and re-seated the bead with the same issue still... Who knows...

[2k2indigoxtreme]

They check the core in the valve stem, or the valve stem seat? What kind of wheels do you have? These are all common problems.

[ChrisInVT]

All replaced I believe. I'm running stock wheels

[2k2indigoxtreme]

Even if they have been replaced, check the seat around the valve stem, it gets corroded internally and you need to take some thin fine strips of sand paper and smooth it out. Factory wheels oxidize heavily after the years, judging by your sig, your truck is 21 years old.

[ChrisInVT]

No, this is on my car

But I'll try and do that sometime.

[2k2indigoxtreme]

Haha good call

[pappie1]

wow....... they where not lieing about how you might have to hunt for them numbers! the blazer has cooper cobras. number was on the inside of the tire. All four match 49 week of 04 but ya...... had to do some crawling for a few numbers. Didn't even bothered looking at the s-10 cause its all kinds of laid out and I'm too lazy to run compressors.

I'm defently checking the snow rims for the s-10 tomorrow. Those got to be older than dirt

[roadlet_411]

I screwed up and put the original full-sized spare on my 1977 caprice a few years back... she let loose of almost all the tread at about 75 mph coming home one night. Luckily it was on the back and I just limped a bit until I found a place wide enough I could pull over and change it without getting run over, lol...