All disc brakes?

scrubbn_azzphalt · 02-23-2009, 09:14 PM

I got an 01' S10 and I'm wanting to run disc brakes
in the rear. I was just wondering if I could steal them
off a 4x4 s10 and slap them on the rear? Or any
other ideas.

Petro · 02-23-2009, 09:31 PM

If it your truck is 4x4 then yes...but if it 2x4 no...

BillsDuster · 02-23-2009, 09:51 PM

I believe the only real difference between the 2wd and 4wd rear brakes is the rotors. The calipers and brackets are the same that I have found, i would think the axle flange would be the same. I have all the parts off a 4wd blazer (calipers/ caliper brackets/ and the axle flanges) that I'm going to put on the rear of my 98 s10 here in a couple weeks when we install my locker. I'll let you know how the install goes and if i have to fab anything. I should take pics and do a write up this gets asked enough as it is.

Petro · 02-23-2009, 10:13 PM

yep x2

danssoslow · 02-23-2009, 10:49 PM

For a 2wd, the simplest thing would be to swap in a Blazer setup with discs, wouldn't it?

1BadElky · 02-23-2009, 11:17 PM

did we ever oficially decide a 1/4" spacer is needed?

scrubbn_azzphalt · 02-24-2009, 12:00 PM

Ohh sorry guys, its a 2x4. I heard about that blazer
swap (98+), do I just take those off and bolt em on?

Petro · 02-24-2009, 12:04 PM

if your truck is 2x4 then make sure you get the setup off a 2x4...the 4x4 rotors are different...but YES a 2x4 disc setup off a blazer will bolt up to your truck....but you will need 1/4" spacers for the bracket because the disc brake rears are 48.5 from backing plate to backing plate...and the drum rears are 48" ....that's the reason for the 1/4" spacers on each side....

scrubbn_azzphalt · 02-24-2009, 12:21 PM

Cool bro, dude thanks for the help Petro, ill end up going to the
junkyard and gettin one this week. Is it hard to do the lines and shit!

Petro · 02-24-2009, 07:40 PM

If your truck is ext cab...then try to get the setup off a 4 door blazer.. so the e-brake cables will be long enough...if your's is a standard cab then just grab from a 2 door blazer.... you will have to adjust the e-brake cables to get them right....but if you know how to turn a wrench you'll figure it out...You'll have to take the cover off the differential to slide the axles out to get to the caliper bracket...and about the brake lines just take whole brake line off the axle housing and the clamps it'll make it easier......

here is a pic of the axle flange so that you'll know the exact measurements for those spacers to put between the flange and bracket..

Petro · 02-24-2009, 07:51 PM

sorry about it being a small pic..for some reason I can't get it bigger... but the measurements are : 3.125 , 2.4375 , 2.625 you just have to look closely...sorry again

Kovz · 02-24-2009, 08:02 PM

I swapped rearends on my truck. I have a 97' 2wd S10. I swapped it out for an 01' 2wd blazer. I swapped the whole rear because the gearing in my was 3:08 originally and the new one was 3:42's.
I had to change the yoke on the diff because my driveshaft was different on the u-joints so I used the one from my old rear on the new one. Had to buy a new crush sleeve for it as well and tighten it down to the proper torque setting.

This is the important part, so pay attention:
You factory ABS unit is programmed to send 10psi to the rear drum brakes and 2psi to the front disc brakes. You are going to need a proportioning valve to correct this. I took out my whole ABS unit because it got in the way of laying frame, but I added in a proportioning valve for disc/disc. You can get these from www.waylayedinc.com.
If you don't put one of these in, you will wear down your rear brakes much faster than the front.

I also sent out my ECU to be reprogrammed by Wait4mePerformanc.com. He was able to correct my speedometer for the new gearing, and different size wheels I was running. Also had him do a few other things for me like firmer shift points, remove top speed limiter, etc...

Petro · 02-24-2009, 08:12 PM

You won't need a new proportioning valve...some trucks came with them some did not..Your rear brakes will not wear down faster than your fronts seeing as how rears only do about 30% of total braking...No need to worry about your abs unit..

scrubbn_azzphalt · 02-25-2009, 11:49 AM

I have 4.10 gears (GT5) and my bro got me a rearend with 3.73 gears,Im planning on swapping the entire rear end over, will these run good with a 4cyl?

Petro · 02-25-2009, 11:52 AM

Yeah no problem...But this affects a few things... engine RPMs , speedometer , shift points , ....

greencactus3 · 02-25-2009, 12:38 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Petro

You won't need a new proportioning valve...some trucks came with them some did not..Your rear brakes will not wear down faster than your fronts seeing as how rears only do about 30% of total braking...No need to worry about your abs unit..

if you are saying a prop valve is not necessary, that is only if you have a working ABS unit

Petro · 02-25-2009, 12:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3

if you are saying a prop valve is not necessary, that is only if you have a working ABS unit

Correct

Kovz · 02-25-2009, 02:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Petro

Yeah no problem...But this affects a few things... engine RPMs , speedometer , shift points , ....

That is where Wait4MePerformance can help! $85 dollars and I sent out my ECU and had it back 7 days later. Or spend $159 for a new one.

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f107/m...ce-pcm-305176/

And you are both correct about the prop valve. Only reason I put one in is because I took my ABS out...

Petro · 02-25-2009, 07:34 PM

Kovz34 so they just reflash it with your new specs?? All for $85?? Thanks for the reference...

Kovz · 02-25-2009, 08:35 PM

Petro, that's correct. Read through that thread. Lots of good info. I had them remove my ABS code (since I deleted ABS), remove the code for throwing a check engine light because I got rid of my cat, remove top speed limiter, remove 75% of torque management, and set my speedo for the new gears and different sized wheels. I should have more power AND save 2mpg.
I haven't had a chance to use mine yet though since the truck is away for winter. I look forward to writing my review soon, as everyone else has given excellent reviews!

BillsDuster · 02-26-2009, 05:33 PM

Ok guys I have some more info on the swap.

I picked up some new two wheel drive rotors for the rear brake swap today.

The parts I have are:

Axle flanges off a 2 door 4wd blazer
Rear Calipers and brackets off a 4 door 4wd blazer
And 2wd rear rotors

I mocked up the rotor and caliper on one side of my 95 s10. My 95 doesn't have a bed on it and it is in the garage so I figured why not try it out.

I took the diff cover off, took the spiders out and slid the axle out of the tube.

I then unbolted the backing plate and got the drum brake stuff out of my way.

At first i tried bolting the flange that the caliper mounts to straight on the end of the axle. When I put the axle back in, put the rotor on, and tried to put the caliper on it wasn't happening. The caliper bracket was touching the out side of the brake rotor.

I then took it back apart and used some 1/8th inch thick washers doubled up between the end of the axle flange and the axle. With it spaced 1/4 of an inch and reinstalled the caliper bracket was nearly rubbing the inside of the rotor, there was maybe 1/16th of an inch clearance.

Lastly, I took it back apart and only spaced the flange 1/8th of an inch with a single washer on each bolt. This time with everything reinstalled the rotor was right where it should be between both sides of the caliper bracket, with plenty of clearance.

SO from what I delt with on the 95 s10 drum rear axle, I found the best spacing for the flange that goes on the axle to be 1/8th of an inch. 1/4th of an inch would work also but the clearance would kinda tight on the inside of the rotor.

I think I'll shoot some pics of it and do some sort or write up before I install the parts on my daily driver, which will hopefully be soon.

Petro · 02-26-2009, 05:50 PM

You put the washers inbetween the axle flange and axle??? I don't get it... Or inbetween the axle flange and bracket??

BillsDuster · 02-26-2009, 06:29 PM

I put them between axle and the backing plate that the caliper bracket bolts to. Hopefully this clears up your question.

This thing, spacers went between this and axle...whats the real name of it anyway, backing plate?

End result.

Petro · 02-26-2009, 06:33 PM

Great job man....yeah it's just called the caliper bracket...Also an original idea with the washers as spacers..looks great man..

BillsDuster · 02-26-2009, 10:06 PM

I'm going to cut out a one piece spacer out of some 1/8th inch sheet steel I have. The washers were only for measuring purposes as they were 1/8th inch thick and easy to come by in my tool box. I'm sure one washer spacing on each bolt wouldn't have any negitive effects on the brakes, i just like the idea of a single plate spacer.

bryanatc · 02-26-2009, 10:13 PM

I found this also......

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f14/ho...y-step-386740/

Petro · 02-26-2009, 10:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bryanatc

I found this also......

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f14/ho...y-step-386740/

Yeah but no parking brake and you could this conversion for less and have a parking brake..

bryanatc · 02-26-2009, 10:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Petro

Yeah but no parking brake and you could this conversion for less and have a parking brake..

good point...What parking brake would you get for a regular cab?

BillsDuster · 02-26-2009, 10:33 PM

I seen that write up also, Thats not a bad way to do it either. One of these days I'm gonna go out to the junkyard and snag the park brake cables and park brake shoes off the blazer I took the calipers off. That way I will still have a working parking brake, I need to have it working for launching my boat. I fish alot during the summer.

I got the calipers for 10 bucks each, and the brackets for 5 bucks each. So before I got the rotors I had 30 dollars in it. Including the rotors (25 each new) I have $80 into it. The guy at the junkyard said I can get the e brake cables and park brake shoes for ten bucks, I just need to get them.

Petro · 02-26-2009, 10:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bryanatc

good point...What parking brake would you get for a regular cab?

Off a 2 door blazer should work well but like I said before you'll have to atach and adjust...It is all a bolt on swap in terms of everything bolts right up with no need of major modifications...I.E.no need for different/new prop valves , ABS still functions properly , no welding , cutting and so on.... But you will have to adjust the cables and what not..

1BadElky · 02-26-2009, 11:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bryanatc

I found this also......

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f14/ho...y-step-386740/

I saw that thread, and politely stayed out of it, but I thinkk this is a very poor setup. I would rather have drums

Petro · 02-26-2009, 11:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1BadElky

I saw that thread, and politely stayed out of it, but I thinkk this is a very poor setup. I would rather have drums

Which one?? The weld on brackets with no parking brake??

1BadElky · 02-26-2009, 11:15 PM

very helpful info by the way, bill. please post the 1 piece spacer as well. I plan to use this setup.

1BadElky · 02-26-2009, 11:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Petro

Which one?? The weld on brackets with no parking brake??

ya.

Petro · 02-26-2009, 11:19 PM

I know you wanted a pic of the ones BillsDuster is going to make but here is a pic til then...notice how they can fit into the back side of the bracket

1BadElky · 02-26-2009, 11:56 PM

very nice, are those for sale on ebay? and are they 1/8"?

BillsDuster · 02-27-2009, 12:04 AM

That's exactly the idea I had in mind for a spacer.

Petro · 02-27-2009, 07:51 AM

The whole setup is..He doesn't sell just the spacers...And they are 1/4"..But they can be easily made..I don't have this setup on my truck..I'm wanting to do the C6 Z06 setup

1BadElky · 02-27-2009, 01:56 PM

this guy made shims out of an old backing plate: http://v8s10.org/forum/viewtopic.php...=blazer+brakes

he used 4wd parts, but the spacer required is the same.

1BadElky · 02-28-2009, 05:15 PM

I've made a discovery... 94-96 caprices use rear discs, and have the same 4-bolt housing end as late model s10s.

of course the caprice has a 5x5" bolt circle versus our 5x4-3/4" bolt circle, so the rotors would have to be redrilled.... unless you could use a 98-05 blazer rotor with the caprice caliper and backing plate. both rotors are 11.61" in diameter, the only problem may be with the drum-type parking brake not being compatible between the 2 vehicles.

the reason I am saying this is because the caprice backing plate would not require a spacer as the blazer part does.... at least I think.

anyone know if the parts interchange?

Petro · 02-28-2009, 05:28 PM

Well I do know on the blazers the drum style parking brake is 190mm....Would you know if the rotors are the same thickness? Do you have a pic/diagram of the axle flange for the caprice?Why wouldn't the caprice's caliper bracket not need a spacer?? Just questions not sarcasm..

1BadElky · 02-28-2009, 05:52 PM

I read that the distance is the same from the wheel mounting surface to the housing end regardless of brake type. I do not know the inner diameter or thickness though. I'm trying to find more info.

Petro · 02-28-2009, 06:02 PM

The axle flange offset is the same on caprices and blazers regardless of brake type?
An example of difference in axle flange offset for those who can't visualize.
Drum Rears
axle> [----] <axle flange

Disc Rears
axle> [---] <axle flange

Notice how the Drum Rear has 4 dashs and the Disc Rear only has 3...As I said just an example for those who don't understand...

chargedextreme · 03-02-2009, 02:07 AM

i had to do a 3/8 spacer on mine to make it fit just right it may because when i snaped my rear axle i got a rear axle housing from a junk yard off a 1995 s10 2wd and built it

1BadElky · 03-02-2009, 10:26 AM

do the 08-02 F-body rear discs require a spacer on a drum rear axle housing? if they don't, then it would not be possible to use them on a blazer rear end, correct?

BTE · 03-03-2009, 01:20 AM

So I have been reading and I hear that to go from 2wd drums to 2wd discs, that you need to space them out or you need to move your axle flange inward and reweld it. Which one is it?
I bought a set off of a 2000 2wd blazer for my 2001 s10

chargedextreme · 03-03-2009, 02:18 AM

you would be better off making a spacer i had to make a 3/8 spacer but every one on here is trying to say 1/4

Petro · 03-03-2009, 09:40 AM

If you cut 1/4" off and then welded the axle flange back on then you would just need a LARGER spacer. The distance from the axle flange to the axle hub would be greater thus a longer spacer. BillsDuster said he only needed 1/8" ..Chargedextreme says he only needed 3/8".... So anywhere from 1/8" to 1/4" but the fact is you will need to space the caliper bracket out from the axle flange.

llorracs93s10 · 03-03-2009, 11:37 AM

i guess iam too late but i will throw mine intot he mix. 93s10 w/ a 02 2wd s10blazer rear. Swapped the whole 7.5 rear for the new 8.5 rear and everything bolted right up. Fit like a glove. The ebrake cable was the biggest PITA with the swap in my opinion.

chargedextreme · 03-03-2009, 11:39 AM

didnt need to shorten your drive shaft?

02-23-2009, 09:14 PM	#1
scrubbn_azzphalt Registered User Age: 18 Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 60 Location: Orlando/407turf User is: OffLine	All disc brakes? I got an 01' S10 and I'm wanting to run disc brakes in the rear. I was just wondering if I could steal them off a 4x4 s10 and slap them on the rear? Or any other ideas.
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02-23-2009, 09:31 PM	#2
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,540 Location: Savannah, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? If it your truck is 4x4 then yes...but if it 2x4 no...
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02-23-2009, 09:51 PM	#3
BillsDuster Riding High 2wd Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 833 Location: Muskegon, MI User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? I believe the only real difference between the 2wd and 4wd rear brakes is the rotors. The calipers and brackets are the same that I have found, i would think the axle flange would be the same. I have all the parts off a 4wd blazer (calipers/ caliper brackets/ and the axle flanges) that I'm going to put on the rear of my 98 s10 here in a couple weeks when we install my locker. I'll let you know how the install goes and if i have to fab anything. I should take pics and do a write up this gets asked enough as it is.
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02-23-2009, 10:13 PM	#4
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,540 Location: Savannah, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? yep x2
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02-23-2009, 10:49 PM	#5
danssoslow NOS make light brighter! Age: 34 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,148 Location: Louisville, KY User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? For a 2wd, the simplest thing would be to swap in a Blazer setup with discs, wouldn't it?
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02-23-2009, 11:17 PM	#6
1BadElky brakes hate me Age: 19 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,521 Location: Albany, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? did we ever oficially decide a 1/4" spacer is needed?
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02-24-2009, 12:00 PM	#7
scrubbn_azzphalt Registered User Age: 18 Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 60 Location: Orlando/407turf User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? Ohh sorry guys, its a 2x4. I heard about that blazer swap (98+), do I just take those off and bolt em on?
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02-24-2009, 12:04 PM	#8
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,540 Location: Savannah, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? if your truck is 2x4 then make sure you get the setup off a 2x4...the 4x4 rotors are different...but YES a 2x4 disc setup off a blazer will bolt up to your truck....but you will need 1/4" spacers for the bracket because the disc brake rears are 48.5 from backing plate to backing plate...and the drum rears are 48" ....that's the reason for the 1/4" spacers on each side....
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02-24-2009, 12:21 PM	#9
scrubbn_azzphalt Registered User Age: 18 Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 60 Location: Orlando/407turf User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? Cool bro, dude thanks for the help Petro, ill end up going to the junkyard and gettin one this week. Is it hard to do the lines and shit!
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02-24-2009, 07:40 PM	#10
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,540 Location: Savannah, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? If your truck is ext cab...then try to get the setup off a 4 door blazer.. so the e-brake cables will be long enough...if your's is a standard cab then just grab from a 2 door blazer.... you will have to adjust the e-brake cables to get them right....but if you know how to turn a wrench you'll figure it out...You'll have to take the cover off the differential to slide the axles out to get to the caliper bracket...and about the brake lines just take whole brake line off the axle housing and the clamps it'll make it easier...... here is a pic of the axle flange so that you'll know the exact measurements for those spacers to put between the flange and bracket.. Last edited by Petro : 02-24-2009 at 07:47 PM.
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02-24-2009, 07:51 PM	#11
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,540 Location: Savannah, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? sorry about it being a small pic..for some reason I can't get it bigger... but the measurements are : 3.125 , 2.4375 , 2.625 you just have to look closely...sorry again Last edited by Petro : 02-24-2009 at 07:54 PM.
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02-24-2009, 08:02 PM	#12
Kovz I RIDE LO Age: 24 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,220 Location: Pittsburgh, PA / Youngstown, OH User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? I swapped rearends on my truck. I have a 97' 2wd S10. I swapped it out for an 01' 2wd blazer. I swapped the whole rear because the gearing in my was 3:08 originally and the new one was 3:42's. I had to change the yoke on the diff because my driveshaft was different on the u-joints so I used the one from my old rear on the new one. Had to buy a new crush sleeve for it as well and tighten it down to the proper torque setting. This is the important part, so pay attention: You factory ABS unit is programmed to send 10psi to the rear drum brakes and 2psi to the front disc brakes. You are going to need a proportioning valve to correct this. I took out my whole ABS unit because it got in the way of laying frame, but I added in a proportioning valve for disc/disc. You can get these from www.waylayedinc.com. If you don't put one of these in, you will wear down your rear brakes much faster than the front. I also sent out my ECU to be reprogrammed by Wait4mePerformanc.com. He was able to correct my speedometer for the new gearing, and different size wheels I was running. Also had him do a few other things for me like firmer shift points, remove top speed limiter, etc... Last edited by Kovz : 02-24-2009 at 08:04 PM.
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02-24-2009, 08:12 PM	#13
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,540 Location: Savannah, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? You won't need a new proportioning valve...some trucks came with them some did not..Your rear brakes will not wear down faster than your fronts seeing as how rears only do about 30% of total braking...No need to worry about your abs unit..
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02-25-2009, 11:49 AM	#14
scrubbn_azzphalt Registered User Age: 18 Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 60 Location: Orlando/407turf User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? I have 4.10 gears (GT5) and my bro got me a rearend with 3.73 gears,Im planning on swapping the entire rear end over, will these run good with a 4cyl?
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02-25-2009, 11:52 AM	#15
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,540 Location: Savannah, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? Yeah no problem...But this affects a few things... engine RPMs , speedometer , shift points , ....
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02-25-2009, 12:38 PM	#16
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,488 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? Quote: Originally Posted by Petro You won't need a new proportioning valve...some trucks came with them some did not..Your rear brakes will not wear down faster than your fronts seeing as how rears only do about 30% of total braking...No need to worry about your abs unit.. if you are saying a prop valve is not necessary, that is only if you have a working ABS unit
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02-25-2009, 12:51 PM	#17
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,540 Location: Savannah, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3 if you are saying a prop valve is not necessary, that is only if you have a working ABS unit Correct
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02-25-2009, 02:11 PM	#18
Kovz I RIDE LO Age: 24 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,220 Location: Pittsburgh, PA / Youngstown, OH User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? Quote: Originally Posted by Petro Yeah no problem...But this affects a few things... engine RPMs , speedometer , shift points , .... That is where Wait4MePerformance can help! $85 dollars and I sent out my ECU and had it back 7 days later. Or spend $159 for a new one. http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f107/m...ce-pcm-305176/ And you are both correct about the prop valve. Only reason I put one in is because I took my ABS out...
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02-25-2009, 07:34 PM	#19
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,540 Location: Savannah, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? Kovz34 so they just reflash it with your new specs?? All for $85?? Thanks for the reference...
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02-25-2009, 08:35 PM	#20
Kovz I RIDE LO Age: 24 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,220 Location: Pittsburgh, PA / Youngstown, OH User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? Petro, that's correct. Read through that thread. Lots of good info. I had them remove my ABS code (since I deleted ABS), remove the code for throwing a check engine light because I got rid of my cat, remove top speed limiter, remove 75% of torque management, and set my speedo for the new gears and different sized wheels. I should have more power AND save 2mpg. I haven't had a chance to use mine yet though since the truck is away for winter. I look forward to writing my review soon, as everyone else has given excellent reviews!
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02-26-2009, 05:33 PM	#21
BillsDuster Riding High 2wd Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 833 Location: Muskegon, MI User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? Ok guys I have some more info on the swap. I picked up some new two wheel drive rotors for the rear brake swap today. The parts I have are: Axle flanges off a 2 door 4wd blazer Rear Calipers and brackets off a 4 door 4wd blazer And 2wd rear rotors I mocked up the rotor and caliper on one side of my 95 s10. My 95 doesn't have a bed on it and it is in the garage so I figured why not try it out. I took the diff cover off, took the spiders out and slid the axle out of the tube. I then unbolted the backing plate and got the drum brake stuff out of my way. At first i tried bolting the flange that the caliper mounts to straight on the end of the axle. When I put the axle back in, put the rotor on, and tried to put the caliper on it wasn't happening. The caliper bracket was touching the out side of the brake rotor. I then took it back apart and used some 1/8th inch thick washers doubled up between the end of the axle flange and the axle. With it spaced 1/4 of an inch and reinstalled the caliper bracket was nearly rubbing the inside of the rotor, there was maybe 1/16th of an inch clearance. Lastly, I took it back apart and only spaced the flange 1/8th of an inch with a single washer on each bolt. This time with everything reinstalled the rotor was right where it should be between both sides of the caliper bracket, with plenty of clearance. SO from what I delt with on the 95 s10 drum rear axle, I found the best spacing for the flange that goes on the axle to be 1/8th of an inch. 1/4th of an inch would work also but the clearance would kinda tight on the inside of the rotor. I think I'll shoot some pics of it and do some sort or write up before I install the parts on my daily driver, which will hopefully be soon.
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02-26-2009, 05:50 PM	#22
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,540 Location: Savannah, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? You put the washers inbetween the axle flange and axle??? I don't get it... Or inbetween the axle flange and bracket??
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02-26-2009, 06:29 PM	#23
BillsDuster Riding High 2wd Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 833 Location: Muskegon, MI User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? I put them between axle and the backing plate that the caliper bracket bolts to. Hopefully this clears up your question. This thing, spacers went between this and axle...whats the real name of it anyway, backing plate? End result.
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02-26-2009, 06:33 PM	#24
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,540 Location: Savannah, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? Great job man....yeah it's just called the caliper bracket...Also an original idea with the washers as spacers..looks great man..
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02-26-2009, 10:06 PM	#25
BillsDuster Riding High 2wd Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 833 Location: Muskegon, MI User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? I'm going to cut out a one piece spacer out of some 1/8th inch sheet steel I have. The washers were only for measuring purposes as they were 1/8th inch thick and easy to come by in my tool box. I'm sure one washer spacing on each bolt wouldn't have any negitive effects on the brakes, i just like the idea of a single plate spacer.
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02-26-2009, 10:13 PM	#26
bryanatc Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 123 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? I found this also...... http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f14/ho...y-step-386740/
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02-26-2009, 10:16 PM	#27
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,540 Location: Savannah, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? Quote: Originally Posted by bryanatc I found this also...... http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f14/ho...y-step-386740/ Yeah but no parking brake and you could this conversion for less and have a parking brake..
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02-26-2009, 10:19 PM	#28
bryanatc Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 123 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? Quote: Originally Posted by Petro Yeah but no parking brake and you could this conversion for less and have a parking brake.. good point...What parking brake would you get for a regular cab?
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02-26-2009, 10:33 PM	#29
BillsDuster Riding High 2wd Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 833 Location: Muskegon, MI User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? I seen that write up also, Thats not a bad way to do it either. One of these days I'm gonna go out to the junkyard and snag the park brake cables and park brake shoes off the blazer I took the calipers off. That way I will still have a working parking brake, I need to have it working for launching my boat. I fish alot during the summer. I got the calipers for 10 bucks each, and the brackets for 5 bucks each. So before I got the rotors I had 30 dollars in it. Including the rotors (25 each new) I have $80 into it. The guy at the junkyard said I can get the e brake cables and park brake shoes for ten bucks, I just need to get them.
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02-26-2009, 10:51 PM	#30
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,540 Location: Savannah, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? Quote: Originally Posted by bryanatc good point...What parking brake would you get for a regular cab? Off a 2 door blazer should work well but like I said before you'll have to atach and adjust...It is all a bolt on swap in terms of everything bolts right up with no need of major modifications...I.E.no need for different/new prop valves , ABS still functions properly , no welding , cutting and so on.... But you will have to adjust the cables and what not..
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02-26-2009, 11:12 PM	#31
1BadElky brakes hate me Age: 19 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,521 Location: Albany, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? Quote: Originally Posted by bryanatc I found this also...... http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f14/ho...y-step-386740/ I saw that thread, and politely stayed out of it, but I thinkk this is a very poor setup. I would rather have drums
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02-26-2009, 11:15 PM	#32
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,540 Location: Savannah, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? Quote: Originally Posted by 1BadElky I saw that thread, and politely stayed out of it, but I thinkk this is a very poor setup. I would rather have drums Which one?? The weld on brackets with no parking brake??
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02-26-2009, 11:15 PM	#33
1BadElky brakes hate me Age: 19 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,521 Location: Albany, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? very helpful info by the way, bill. please post the 1 piece spacer as well. I plan to use this setup.
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02-26-2009, 11:19 PM	#35
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,540 Location: Savannah, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? I know you wanted a pic of the ones BillsDuster is going to make but here is a pic til then...notice how they can fit into the back side of the bracket
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02-26-2009, 11:56 PM	#36
1BadElky brakes hate me Age: 19 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,521 Location: Albany, GA User is: OffLine	Re: All disc brakes? very nice, are those for sale on ebay? and are they 1/8"?
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