systems

noom14921992 · 03-07-2009, 11:43 PM

i dont think any of this is fact but i wanted to ask you all. i have been working on a few different cars lately at work and have noticed that Chevy uses BOSE and ford uses/used MACH , Toyota uses JBL, jeep uses infinity, and so on. so what car company uses the best speakers. and what do you all like.

just wondering. thanks

pk designs · 03-08-2009, 12:06 AM

well first of all the stock systems are always weak doesn't matter what factory puts in there you can always improve

... but ...

i had bose in the blazer which i didn't find all that. The grand cherokee and pacifica cars i had used infinity once which i liked. I also used jbl's in my talon also had a few kicker subs in my cars and helped install into friends cars 2...

over all it's what ya prefer cause there a lot of good quality brands out there and i think it truely depends how much $$$ u wanna shell out

I personaly like infinity for speakers but prefer kicker for subwoofers and alpine for head units { just me} there are alot of ppl that like jbl setups i personaly had a bad experience with a set so i ain't gonna judge based on that ... but i also know a lot of ppl that where happy with mtx and sony combo's as well ...

if your lookin to put a system in a blazer, that isn't for heavy comp's and still allows ya for back trunk space; a set of 10" subs paired with some decent speakers should keep ya bumpin nicely...

ZR2Owner? · 03-31-2009, 10:11 PM

GM "bose" speakers are just delco brand.

Xenon4300 · 04-01-2009, 12:18 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ZR2Owner?

GM "bose" speakers are just delco brand.

No, BOSE is not delco. My speakers are BOSE and it was an upgrade. They are very good speakers and I always get comments on the bass when I turn it up, even though it's technically stock.

ZQ8 Blazer · 04-01-2009, 03:32 AM

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i dont think any of this is fact but i wanted to ask you all. i have been working on a few different cars lately at work and have noticed that Chevy uses BOSE and ford uses/used MACH , Toyota uses JBL, jeep uses infinity, and so on. so what car company uses the best speakers. and what do you all like. just wondering. thanks

I'd say the factory upgraded door speakers in most vehicles are the lowest line that that particular company makes, or better yet the company was contracted out to make a line of cheaper quality speakers for the car manufacturer. The car manufacturer just wants the name so it'll sell better.
Now my wifes car is a 08 Altima coupe, it has Bose speakers and I was really surprised, they're actually aftermarket quality the SQ is very desirable. If I were replacing them though I'd probably still get a different set as pk said "you can always improve" I've heard Bose in a GM vehicle and Infinity in a Grand Cherokee, they were a little better than stock, but nothing to have an orgasm over.

I've always used Pioneer door speakers due to quality/price factor, I'm not overally anal on SQ though, just want something clean and crisp. I also always used Audiobahn subs, they had a very tight deep bass sound and were quality built.

What I'd do is build a box that fits tightly up to the passengers side part of the cargo area and put one good 12" sub in it.

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No, BOSE is not delco. My speakers are BOSE and it was an upgrade. They are very good speakers and I always get comments on the bass when I turn it up, even though it's technically stock.

How the hell do you get comments on the bass a set of door speakers put out? They can't hit hard enough to put too much bass out, and if you have the bass knob turned up all the way then you're just going to blow your stock speakers up.

Xenon4300 · 04-01-2009, 03:53 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer

How the hell do you get comments on the bass a set of door speakers put out? They can't hit hard enough to put too much bass out, and if you have the bass knob turned up all the way then you're just going to blow your stock speakers up.

I get compliments from people in my car when the bass raddles everything... it is loud. I don't think it is only the door speakers, there is bass that comes from within under the console it seems.

kiwiblazer · 04-01-2009, 04:07 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by noom14921992

i dont think any of this is fact but i wanted to ask you all. i have been working on a few different cars lately at work and have noticed that Chevy uses BOSE and ford uses/used MACH , Toyota uses JBL, jeep uses infinity, and so on. so what car company uses the best speakers. and what do you all like.

just wondering. thanks

My Blazer has an AC Delco system. But then maybe it was what GM spec'd for the Japanese market since it needed to work in Japan. (or fitted to all RHD export vehicles). Here in New Zealand, we need to fit "band expanders" to get the stereo to work. Having said that the stereo quality IS poor.

ZQ8 Blazer · 04-01-2009, 02:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Xenon4300

I get compliments from people in my car when the bass raddles everything... it is loud. I don't think it is only the door speakers, there is bass that comes from within under the console it seems.

Yeah I forgot, the Trail Blazer and Envoy models have a 15" sub mounted underneath the center console between the seats.

Xenon4300 · 04-02-2009, 12:09 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer

Yeah I forgot, the Trail Blazer and Envoy models have a 15" sub mounted underneath the center console between the seats.

Really?

ZQ8 Blazer · 04-02-2009, 12:31 AM

Yeah, it's a Bose too, I think it's called the Bose "syphon-feel" or something like that, if it ever goes out I'd just get an aftermarket sub, they're friggin' expensive from GM.

K Dawg ONE · 04-02-2009, 10:37 AM

^^My Envoy didnt have a sub in the console...just the amp for the Bose system....

K Dawg ONE · 04-02-2009, 10:37 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer

Yeah, it's a Bose too, I think it's called the Bose "syphon-feel" or something like that, if it ever goes out I'd just get an aftermarket sub, they're friggin' expensive from GM.

Aprils fools?

siucsaluki11 · 04-06-2009, 04:09 PM

I now have all aftermarket in my blazer, alpine type s comps in the front doors (cheap but sound really nice) MTX coax in the rear (bought to replace blown factory speakers) alpine 4-ch amp (MRP-F300), JVC KD-AR8500 deck, Clarion subs and a kenwood class D amp. All is much louder (obviously) and clearer than a stock system. I noticed a big difference between just the MTX coaxials (which i had in all 4 doors for about a year) and stock speakers. Personally, ill never spend the money on an upgraded system from the factory. If i could id have them remove it and take some off the price of the car...too bad they dont do that...For the price of the bose system you can get a 4ch amp, better speakers and a wiring kit. The stuff really isnt that hard to install (shouldnt be telling people that since im MECP and looking for a job, lol).

ZQ8 Blazer · 04-06-2009, 05:23 PM

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Personally, ill never spend the money on an upgraded system from the factory.

But the factory Bose systems put out sooooooooooooo much bass! And don't forget about the 15" sub under the console, that really helps too...

But yeah you get way more bang for the buck with an aftermarket system vs. an inferior overpriced OEM one.

siucsaluki11 · 04-09-2009, 10:19 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer

But the factory Bose systems put out sooooooooooooo much bass! And don't forget about the 15" sub under the console, that really helps too...

But yeah you get way more bang for the buck with an aftermarket system vs. an inferior overpriced OEM one.

My parents have a new tahoe (think its an 08) and the factory bose system has decent bass. My 2 clarion 12s destroy it. Then again, im giving each one around 450w RMS and have them in a big ass ported box i made. You sure its a 15?

Xenon4300 · 04-09-2009, 03:38 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by siucsaluki11

My parents have a new tahoe (think its an 08) and the factory bose system has decent bass. My 2 clarion 12s destroy it. Then again, im giving each one around 450w RMS and have them in a big ass ported box i made. You sure its a 15?

No, I'm pretty sure he's just being an ass as usual because he has nothing better to do with his time.

siucsaluki11 · 04-09-2009, 05:59 PM

Ive noticed he doesnt always ha ve the most sunny disposition

ZQ8 Blazer · 04-09-2009, 06:12 PM

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No, I'm pretty sure he's just being an ass as usual because he has nothing better to do with his time.

just like you have nothing better to do than be an idiot?

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Ive noticed he doesnt always ha ve the most sunny disposition

I do, you're just reading the wrong posts that I make, I'm actually a pretty nice guy. I started out kidding with Xenon4300 in a thread a while back, but then he started acting like a "better than other people on here" asshole(not just to me, if he wants to think that about me I could give two shits) and I just don't go for people assuming that about others they know nothing about.

87c10slammer · 04-10-2009, 12:54 PM

awwll ... i missed this place... lol

siucsaluki11 · 04-10-2009, 07:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer

just like you have nothing better to do than be an idiot?

I do, you're just reading the wrong posts that I make, I'm actually a pretty nice guy. I started out kidding with Xenon4300 in a thread a while back, but then he started acting like a "better than other people on here" asshole(not just to me, if he wants to think that about me I could give two shits) and I just don't go for people assuming that about others they know nothing about.

guess i have then...lol...i mean, just going off the posts ive read...ya...sorry about that.

ZQ8 Blazer · 04-10-2009, 10:10 PM

eh that's ok everyone makes mistakes

old_skool_noma · 04-12-2009, 01:42 AM

also another thing that you will notice, on the "Upgraded" factory system, the amps that they come with have a ridiculously high THD level (total harmonic distortion), its about 10% as compared to a lot of aftermarket amps that have .02% or .5% is common, the highest ive really seen is 2% IIRC and thats probably slightly over rated and at a low impedence, even the cheap 70 watt visonik in my g/fs car only has .9% thd @4 ohms and thats pretty high. so, sure the factory upgrade systems are a step up from factory, but nothing that will blow you away, if you want a great sounding system, build it yourself

03-07-2009, 11:43 PM	#1
noom14921992 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 96 Location: User is: OffLine	systems i dont think any of this is fact but i wanted to ask you all. i have been working on a few different cars lately at work and have noticed that Chevy uses BOSE and ford uses/used MACH , Toyota uses JBL, jeep uses infinity, and so on. so what car company uses the best speakers. and what do you all like. just wondering. thanks
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03-08-2009, 12:06 AM	#2
pk designs Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 47 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: systems well first of all the stock systems are always weak doesn't matter what factory puts in there you can always improve ... but ... i had bose in the blazer which i didn't find all that. The grand cherokee and pacifica cars i had used infinity once which i liked. I also used jbl's in my talon also had a few kicker subs in my cars and helped install into friends cars 2... over all it's what ya prefer cause there a lot of good quality brands out there and i think it truely depends how much $$$ u wanna shell out I personaly like infinity for speakers but prefer kicker for subwoofers and alpine for head units { just me} there are alot of ppl that like jbl setups i personaly had a bad experience with a set so i ain't gonna judge based on that ... but i also know a lot of ppl that where happy with mtx and sony combo's as well ... if your lookin to put a system in a blazer, that isn't for heavy comp's and still allows ya for back trunk space; a set of 10" subs paired with some decent speakers should keep ya bumpin nicely...
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03-31-2009, 10:11 PM	#3
ZR2Owner? Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 37 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: systems GM "bose" speakers are just delco brand.
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04-01-2009, 12:18 AM	#4
Xenon4300 Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 204 Location: Arizona User is: OffLine	Re: systems Quote: Originally Posted by ZR2Owner? GM "bose" speakers are just delco brand. No, BOSE is not delco. My speakers are BOSE and it was an upgrade. They are very good speakers and I always get comments on the bass when I turn it up, even though it's technically stock.
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04-01-2009, 03:32 AM	#5
ZQ8 Blazer ZQ8 Blazer Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 8,723 Location: Western, Ky User is: OffLine	Re: systems Quote: i dont think any of this is fact but i wanted to ask you all. i have been working on a few different cars lately at work and have noticed that Chevy uses BOSE and ford uses/used MACH , Toyota uses JBL, jeep uses infinity, and so on. so what car company uses the best speakers. and what do you all like. just wondering. thanks I'd say the factory upgraded door speakers in most vehicles are the lowest line that that particular company makes, or better yet the company was contracted out to make a line of cheaper quality speakers for the car manufacturer. The car manufacturer just wants the name so it'll sell better. Now my wifes car is a 08 Altima coupe, it has Bose speakers and I was really surprised, they're actually aftermarket quality the SQ is very desirable. If I were replacing them though I'd probably still get a different set as pk said "you can always improve" I've heard Bose in a GM vehicle and Infinity in a Grand Cherokee, they were a little better than stock, but nothing to have an orgasm over. I've always used Pioneer door speakers due to quality/price factor, I'm not overally anal on SQ though, just want something clean and crisp. I also always used Audiobahn subs, they had a very tight deep bass sound and were quality built. What I'd do is build a box that fits tightly up to the passengers side part of the cargo area and put one good 12" sub in it. Quote: No, BOSE is not delco. My speakers are BOSE and it was an upgrade. They are very good speakers and I always get comments on the bass when I turn it up, even though it's technically stock. How the hell do you get comments on the bass a set of door speakers put out? They can't hit hard enough to put too much bass out, and if you have the bass knob turned up all the way then you're just going to blow your stock speakers up.
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04-01-2009, 03:53 AM	#6
Xenon4300 Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 204 Location: Arizona User is: OffLine	Re: systems Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer How the hell do you get comments on the bass a set of door speakers put out? They can't hit hard enough to put too much bass out, and if you have the bass knob turned up all the way then you're just going to blow your stock speakers up. I get compliments from people in my car when the bass raddles everything... it is loud. I don't think it is only the door speakers, there is bass that comes from within under the console it seems.
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04-01-2009, 04:07 AM	#7
kiwiblazer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 84 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: systems Quote: Originally Posted by noom14921992 i dont think any of this is fact but i wanted to ask you all. i have been working on a few different cars lately at work and have noticed that Chevy uses BOSE and ford uses/used MACH , Toyota uses JBL, jeep uses infinity, and so on. so what car company uses the best speakers. and what do you all like. just wondering. thanks My Blazer has an AC Delco system. But then maybe it was what GM spec'd for the Japanese market since it needed to work in Japan. (or fitted to all RHD export vehicles). Here in New Zealand, we need to fit "band expanders" to get the stereo to work. Having said that the stereo quality IS poor.
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04-01-2009, 02:57 PM	#8
ZQ8 Blazer ZQ8 Blazer Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 8,723 Location: Western, Ky User is: OffLine	Re: systems Quote: Originally Posted by Xenon4300 I get compliments from people in my car when the bass raddles everything... it is loud. I don't think it is only the door speakers, there is bass that comes from within under the console it seems. Yeah I forgot, the Trail Blazer and Envoy models have a 15" sub mounted underneath the center console between the seats.
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04-02-2009, 12:09 AM	#9
Xenon4300 Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 204 Location: Arizona User is: OffLine	Re: systems Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer Yeah I forgot, the Trail Blazer and Envoy models have a 15" sub mounted underneath the center console between the seats. Really?
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04-02-2009, 12:31 AM	#10
ZQ8 Blazer ZQ8 Blazer Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 8,723 Location: Western, Ky User is: OffLine	Re: systems Yeah, it's a Bose too, I think it's called the Bose "syphon-feel" or something like that, if it ever goes out I'd just get an aftermarket sub, they're friggin' expensive from GM.
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04-02-2009, 10:37 AM	#11
K Dawg ONE CDN 2WD 2Gen 4-Door! Age: 27 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,844 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: systems ^^My Envoy didnt have a sub in the console...just the amp for the Bose system....
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04-06-2009, 04:09 PM	#13
siucsaluki11 Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 20 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: systems I now have all aftermarket in my blazer, alpine type s comps in the front doors (cheap but sound really nice) MTX coax in the rear (bought to replace blown factory speakers) alpine 4-ch amp (MRP-F300), JVC KD-AR8500 deck, Clarion subs and a kenwood class D amp. All is much louder (obviously) and clearer than a stock system. I noticed a big difference between just the MTX coaxials (which i had in all 4 doors for about a year) and stock speakers. Personally, ill never spend the money on an upgraded system from the factory. If i could id have them remove it and take some off the price of the car...too bad they dont do that...For the price of the bose system you can get a 4ch amp, better speakers and a wiring kit. The stuff really isnt that hard to install (shouldnt be telling people that since im MECP and looking for a job, lol).
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04-06-2009, 05:23 PM	#14
ZQ8 Blazer ZQ8 Blazer Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 8,723 Location: Western, Ky User is: OffLine	Re: systems Quote: Personally, ill never spend the money on an upgraded system from the factory. But the factory Bose systems put out sooooooooooooo much bass! And don't forget about the 15" sub under the console, that really helps too... But yeah you get way more bang for the buck with an aftermarket system vs. an inferior overpriced OEM one.
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04-09-2009, 10:19 AM	#15
siucsaluki11 Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 20 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: systems Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer But the factory Bose systems put out sooooooooooooo much bass! And don't forget about the 15" sub under the console, that really helps too... But yeah you get way more bang for the buck with an aftermarket system vs. an inferior overpriced OEM one. My parents have a new tahoe (think its an 08) and the factory bose system has decent bass. My 2 clarion 12s destroy it. Then again, im giving each one around 450w RMS and have them in a big ass ported box i made. You sure its a 15?
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04-09-2009, 03:38 PM	#16
Xenon4300 Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 204 Location: Arizona User is: OffLine	Re: systems Quote: Originally Posted by siucsaluki11 My parents have a new tahoe (think its an 08) and the factory bose system has decent bass. My 2 clarion 12s destroy it. Then again, im giving each one around 450w RMS and have them in a big ass ported box i made. You sure its a 15? No, I'm pretty sure he's just being an ass as usual because he has nothing better to do with his time.
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04-09-2009, 05:59 PM	#17
siucsaluki11 Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 20 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: systems Ive noticed he doesnt always ha ve the most sunny disposition
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04-09-2009, 06:12 PM	#18
ZQ8 Blazer ZQ8 Blazer Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 8,723 Location: Western, Ky User is: OffLine	Re: systems Quote: No, I'm pretty sure he's just being an ass as usual because he has nothing better to do with his time. just like you have nothing better to do than be an idiot? Quote: Ive noticed he doesnt always ha ve the most sunny disposition I do, you're just reading the wrong posts that I make, I'm actually a pretty nice guy. I started out kidding with Xenon4300 in a thread a while back, but then he started acting like a "better than other people on here" asshole(not just to me, if he wants to think that about me I could give two shits) and I just don't go for people assuming that about others they know nothing about. Last edited by ZQ8 Blazer : 04-09-2009 at 06:13 PM.
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04-10-2009, 12:54 PM	#19
87c10slammer Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 391 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: systems awwll ... i missed this place... lol
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04-10-2009, 07:16 PM	#20
siucsaluki11 Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 20 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: systems Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer just like you have nothing better to do than be an idiot? I do, you're just reading the wrong posts that I make, I'm actually a pretty nice guy. I started out kidding with Xenon4300 in a thread a while back, but then he started acting like a "better than other people on here" asshole(not just to me, if he wants to think that about me I could give two shits) and I just don't go for people assuming that about others they know nothing about. guess i have then...lol...i mean, just going off the posts ive read...ya...sorry about that.
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04-10-2009, 10:10 PM	#21
ZQ8 Blazer ZQ8 Blazer Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 8,723 Location: Western, Ky User is: OffLine	Re: systems eh that's ok everyone makes mistakes
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04-12-2009, 01:42 AM	#22
old_skool_noma ... i dont know? Age: 21 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 7,244 Location: Heath/Newark, OH User is: OffLine	Re: systems also another thing that you will notice, on the "Upgraded" factory system, the amps that they come with have a ridiculously high THD level (total harmonic distortion), its about 10% as compared to a lot of aftermarket amps that have .02% or .5% is common, the highest ive really seen is 2% IIRC and thats probably slightly over rated and at a low impedence, even the cheap 70 watt visonik in my g/fs car only has .9% thd @4 ohms and thats pretty high. so, sure the factory upgrade systems are a step up from factory, but nothing that will blow you away, if you want a great sounding system, build it yourself
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