Sound like a fuel pump to you?

Kaznlilgreenmen · 09-24-2008, 09:17 PM

01 Jimmy..has trouble starting from time to time...it will just sit and crank and crank and crank even if i pump the gas while tryin...ill have to sit and wait a min and try again...sometimes it wont and sometimes it does...other times it will staul out again..and i already have replaced the fuel filter any ideas?

GeorgesBlazah · 09-25-2008, 11:45 AM

Do you hear the FP prime when it deos this?

SH-60B · 09-25-2008, 12:14 PM

It stalls right after starting or while driving?

lee-mill · 09-25-2008, 12:16 PM

x2 on the pump priming

and that pic=fail for not working

Kaznlilgreenmen · 09-25-2008, 01:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GeorgesBlazah

Do you hear the FP prime when it deos this?

You mean do i hear the fuel pump turn on with the key in the on position ..yes...thing is tho my filter was badly clogged (i bought the truck from a shady dealer I didn't know this at the time) and when i replaced it i could BARELY blow thru it so I'm afraid I put some stress on the fuel pump..

Kaznlilgreenmen · 09-25-2008, 01:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by SH-60B

It stalls right after starting or while driving?

Example.. drove from my house to the grocery store yesterday...picked up one thing got back in the truck...just kept cranking and cranking...started to turn over and was slightly sputtering and died back out. Waited a min or two tried again and just cranked and cranked...waited another min...she fired up with a little hesitation..

stv-lo · 09-25-2008, 02:08 PM

try checking the plugs n if it's not the plug then more than likely you need a new pump... pumping the gas will not do anything seeing as how it is fuel injected

Kaznlilgreenmen · 09-25-2008, 04:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by stv-lo

try checking the plugs n if it's not the plug then more than likely you need a new pump... pumping the gas will not do anything seeing as how it is fuel injected

ya got the pump today 190.00 ...not to bad in price..get to go home on my day off and do it

Kaznlilgreenmen · 09-25-2008, 05:59 PM

was pokin around and i read somewhere someone had the same problem as me almost and it was due to the paslock...now i find it wierd because sometimes when my situation happens i will lock the doors and close the driver so the security light goes on..then open it with the key not remote just the key so it turns off the security light and then sometimes it seems to help the starting...OR it just seems probable and its still the pump..any input?

Yogi · 09-28-2008, 01:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kaznlilgreenmen

was pokin around and i read somewhere someone had the same problem as me almost and it was due to the paslock...now i find it wierd because sometimes when my situation happens i will lock the doors and close the driver so the security light goes on..then open it with the key not remote just the key so it turns off the security light and then sometimes it seems to help the starting...OR it just seems probable and its still the pump..any input?

Passlock will normally let the motor start right up, run for a few seconds, then die, and the security light comes on. Yours sounds more like the fuel pump but run a pressure test to be sure.

Slow97S10 · 09-28-2008, 02:38 PM

DO all of the above first then do the fuel pump. Mine for some reason was a pain in the ass. Yesterday was the first time I have ever done one on a S10. Need any tips shoot me a PM and I will do whatever I can to help out.

Kaznlilgreenmen · 09-29-2008, 11:10 AM

Well I replaced it...wasnt too bad but my tank was a lil more full than I originally though it was (level sensor was shot too apparently) And she is running fine for now (knock on wood) hardest part was gettin the filler neck and over flow tube hooked back up...could only do it once the truck was half strapped back up...what a p.i.t.a.

The new pump came with like an upgraded wire harness it said "to allow more voltage blah blah something" thing is the harness had 4 wires all like 16 ga and only two wires off the truck were 16 the other two were like 18 ga..and the colors didnt even match up..only 3 did ya i know last one and last one...but you would think they would match up all four colors..SO goto fill it up and i put about a half a tank in it and it wasnt reading the gas...started drive and the fuel gauge on the cluster starts slowly going up.. instead of shooting right up like it should..

So either I got a shitty pump or something else is wrong..

Yogi · 09-29-2008, 12:22 PM

Sorry to hear about the problems with the gauge, but glad to hear that the pump has solved your other prob.

Good luck!

Slow97S10 · 09-29-2008, 12:36 PM

All my wires matched up except like you said some were a different gauge than others. I had not had a working gas gauge since I bought the truck (5 years ago) so I was happen when I saw mine working. Sorry yours isn't though.

Which pump did you go with?

andysutt · 09-29-2008, 12:47 PM

I was going to suggest beating on the bottom of the tank.

This has made mine start twice now for some reason. The pump was replaced before I bought it, and I think its going out, but its gotten me out of a bind and started.

So either 1) tanks full of crap and sucking it to the sock and hitting it shakes it loose or 2) somehow it causes the pump to start working. I hear it prime but didn't start.

I replaced my ECM, Cap/Rotor, crankshaft position sensor, ignition module and coil before i replaced the MAP sensor and this fixed my truck the first time. Now its died twice since and hitting the tank each time made it start

Kaznlilgreenmen · 09-29-2008, 03:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Slow97S10

All my wires matched up except like you said some were a different gauge than others. I had not had a working gas gauge since I bought the truck (5 years ago) so I was happen when I saw mine working. Sorry yours isn't though.

Which pump did you go with?

Um not sure of the name off hand got it from one of our distributors here at the shop.. haha its kinda working...just does not shoot up like it should when i put gas in it...just goes up slowly...I might try replacing my gas cap next...not sure...this truck has def been a venture this far.. almost to the point of me not wanting it

Kaznlilgreenmen · 09-29-2008, 03:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by andysutt

I was going to suggest beating on the bottom of the tank.

This has made mine start twice now for some reason. The pump was replaced before I bought it, and I think its going out, but its gotten me out of a bind and started.

So either 1) tanks full of crap and sucking it to the sock and hitting it shakes it loose or 2) somehow it causes the pump to start working. I hear it prime but didn't start.

I replaced my ECM, Cap/Rotor, crankshaft position sensor, ignition module and coil before i replaced the MAP sensor and this fixed my truck the first time. Now its died twice since and hitting the tank each time made it start

Ya i just went ahead and replaced it...tank was clean inside when I pulled the old pump tho.

09-24-2008, 09:17 PM	#1
Kaznlilgreenmen I piss excellence Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 850 Location: Springville Ny User is: OffLine	Sound like a fuel pump to you? 01 Jimmy..has trouble starting from time to time...it will just sit and crank and crank and crank even if i pump the gas while tryin...ill have to sit and wait a min and try again...sometimes it wont and sometimes it does...other times it will staul out again..and i already have replaced the fuel filter any ideas?
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09-25-2008, 11:45 AM	#2
GeorgesBlazah Slap my meat on your pita Age: 24 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,215 Location: south jersey User is: OffLine	Re: Sound like a fuel pump to you? Do you hear the FP prime when it deos this?
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09-25-2008, 12:14 PM	#3
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09-25-2008, 12:16 PM	#4
lee-mill where's my chippy? Age: 20 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,846 Location: staatsburg, ny User is: OffLine	Re: Sound like a fuel pump to you? x2 on the pump priming and that pic=fail for not working
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09-25-2008, 01:51 PM	#5
Kaznlilgreenmen I piss excellence Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 850 Location: Springville Ny User is: OffLine	Re: Sound like a fuel pump to you? Quote: Originally Posted by GeorgesBlazah Do you hear the FP prime when it deos this? You mean do i hear the fuel pump turn on with the key in the on position ..yes...thing is tho my filter was badly clogged (i bought the truck from a shady dealer I didn't know this at the time) and when i replaced it i could BARELY blow thru it so I'm afraid I put some stress on the fuel pump..
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09-25-2008, 01:53 PM	#6
Kaznlilgreenmen I piss excellence Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 850 Location: Springville Ny User is: OffLine	Re: Sound like a fuel pump to you? Quote: Originally Posted by SH-60B It stalls right after starting or while driving? Example.. drove from my house to the grocery store yesterday...picked up one thing got back in the truck...just kept cranking and cranking...started to turn over and was slightly sputtering and died back out. Waited a min or two tried again and just cranked and cranked...waited another min...she fired up with a little hesitation..
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09-25-2008, 02:08 PM	#7
stv-lo Useless Age: 22 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,496 Location: your mom... User is: Online	Re: Sound like a fuel pump to you? try checking the plugs n if it's not the plug then more than likely you need a new pump... pumping the gas will not do anything seeing as how it is fuel injected
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09-25-2008, 04:01 PM	#8
Kaznlilgreenmen I piss excellence Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 850 Location: Springville Ny User is: OffLine	Re: Sound like a fuel pump to you? Quote: Originally Posted by stv-lo try checking the plugs n if it's not the plug then more than likely you need a new pump... pumping the gas will not do anything seeing as how it is fuel injected ya got the pump today 190.00 ...not to bad in price..get to go home on my day off and do it
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09-25-2008, 05:59 PM	#9
Kaznlilgreenmen I piss excellence Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 850 Location: Springville Ny User is: OffLine	Re: Sound like a fuel pump to you? was pokin around and i read somewhere someone had the same problem as me almost and it was due to the paslock...now i find it wierd because sometimes when my situation happens i will lock the doors and close the driver so the security light goes on..then open it with the key not remote just the key so it turns off the security light and then sometimes it seems to help the starting...OR it just seems probable and its still the pump..any input?
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09-28-2008, 01:25 PM	#10
Yogi Registered (Ab) User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,093 Location: League City, TX (Houston) User is: OffLine	Re: Sound like a fuel pump to you? Quote: Originally Posted by Kaznlilgreenmen was pokin around and i read somewhere someone had the same problem as me almost and it was due to the paslock...now i find it wierd because sometimes when my situation happens i will lock the doors and close the driver so the security light goes on..then open it with the key not remote just the key so it turns off the security light and then sometimes it seems to help the starting...OR it just seems probable and its still the pump..any input? Passlock will normally let the motor start right up, run for a few seconds, then die, and the security light comes on. Yours sounds more like the fuel pump but run a pressure test to be sure.
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09-28-2008, 02:38 PM	#11
Slow97S10 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 61 Location: Dayton, Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Sound like a fuel pump to you? DO all of the above first then do the fuel pump. Mine for some reason was a pain in the ass. Yesterday was the first time I have ever done one on a S10. Need any tips shoot me a PM and I will do whatever I can to help out.
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09-29-2008, 11:10 AM	#12
Kaznlilgreenmen I piss excellence Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 850 Location: Springville Ny User is: OffLine	Re: Sound like a fuel pump to you? Well I replaced it...wasnt too bad but my tank was a lil more full than I originally though it was (level sensor was shot too apparently) And she is running fine for now (knock on wood) hardest part was gettin the filler neck and over flow tube hooked back up...could only do it once the truck was half strapped back up...what a p.i.t.a. The new pump came with like an upgraded wire harness it said "to allow more voltage blah blah something" thing is the harness had 4 wires all like 16 ga and only two wires off the truck were 16 the other two were like 18 ga..and the colors didnt even match up..only 3 did ya i know last one and last one...but you would think they would match up all four colors..SO goto fill it up and i put about a half a tank in it and it wasnt reading the gas...started drive and the fuel gauge on the cluster starts slowly going up.. instead of shooting right up like it should..So either I got a shitty pump or something else is wrong..
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09-29-2008, 12:22 PM	#13
Yogi Registered (Ab) User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,093 Location: League City, TX (Houston) User is: OffLine	Re: Sound like a fuel pump to you? Sorry to hear about the problems with the gauge, but glad to hear that the pump has solved your other prob. Good luck!
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09-29-2008, 12:36 PM	#14
Slow97S10 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 61 Location: Dayton, Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Sound like a fuel pump to you? All my wires matched up except like you said some were a different gauge than others. I had not had a working gas gauge since I bought the truck (5 years ago) so I was happen when I saw mine working. Sorry yours isn't though. Which pump did you go with?
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09-29-2008, 12:47 PM	#15
andysutt Lifts are for 4wds! Age: 26 Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,540 Location: Conway Arkansas User is: OffLine	Re: Sound like a fuel pump to you? I was going to suggest beating on the bottom of the tank. This has made mine start twice now for some reason. The pump was replaced before I bought it, and I think its going out, but its gotten me out of a bind and started. So either 1) tanks full of crap and sucking it to the sock and hitting it shakes it loose or 2) somehow it causes the pump to start working. I hear it prime but didn't start. I replaced my ECM, Cap/Rotor, crankshaft position sensor, ignition module and coil before i replaced the MAP sensor and this fixed my truck the first time. Now its died twice since and hitting the tank each time made it start
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09-29-2008, 03:25 PM	#16
Kaznlilgreenmen I piss excellence Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 850 Location: Springville Ny User is: OffLine	Re: Sound like a fuel pump to you? Quote: Originally Posted by Slow97S10 All my wires matched up except like you said some were a different gauge than others. I had not had a working gas gauge since I bought the truck (5 years ago) so I was happen when I saw mine working. Sorry yours isn't though. Which pump did you go with? Um not sure of the name off hand got it from one of our distributors here at the shop.. haha its kinda working...just does not shoot up like it should when i put gas in it...just goes up slowly...I might try replacing my gas cap next...not sure...this truck has def been a venture this far.. almost to the point of me not wanting it
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09-29-2008, 03:27 PM	#17
Kaznlilgreenmen I piss excellence Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 850 Location: Springville Ny User is: OffLine	Re: Sound like a fuel pump to you? Quote: Originally Posted by andysutt I was going to suggest beating on the bottom of the tank. This has made mine start twice now for some reason. The pump was replaced before I bought it, and I think its going out, but its gotten me out of a bind and started. So either 1) tanks full of crap and sucking it to the sock and hitting it shakes it loose or 2) somehow it causes the pump to start working. I hear it prime but didn't start. I replaced my ECM, Cap/Rotor, crankshaft position sensor, ignition module and coil before i replaced the MAP sensor and this fixed my truck the first time. Now its died twice since and hitting the tank each time made it start Ya i just went ahead and replaced it...tank was clean inside when I pulled the old pump tho.
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