Envoy HID replacement (please help)

brandonb85 · 07-29-2007, 11:58 PM

I have had a HID bulb out on my 1998 Envoy for quite some time now, and finally the second has gone. I have been driving with just the high beams and been pulled over three times. One more is my last(so the local PD says) They are saying it will be $600 to fix. I dont want to pay that much nor do I want to drive at night and get a ticket. Is it possible to replace with normal jimmy headlights? or could you use less watt bulbs in the highbeams and drive like that for now? Let me know. OR a complete fix on the HID's. Thanks in advance.

Brandon

travy · 07-30-2007, 09:45 AM

what kind does your the 98 envoys use? d1r ones?

samandjen1 · 07-30-2007, 10:19 AM

Envoys use D2S

You have to buy GM bulbs or replace the bulbs and ignitors with after market. GM have a special connectors. If you want the colors to match you need to do both side at the same time.

brandonb85 · 07-30-2007, 03:08 PM

How will i know if it is the bulb itself or the ballast? Thanks in advance.

samandjen1 · 07-30-2007, 03:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by brandonb85

How will i know if it is the bulb itself or the ballast? Thanks in advance.

pull the bulb out and see if its black.

jwood562 · 07-30-2007, 10:38 PM

im confused. d2s bulbs look different to me. i thought they used d1s OEM because the silver box on the back of the bulb and the ballast connectors.

i did my envoy conversion and used d2s bulbs but i had to make a braket to hold the bulbs in and i used oem lexus ballasts.

could you also clear something else up. all the research i did always stated that the "S" at the end of the bulb (d1s, d2s) were always for projectors and the "r" bulbs (d1r,d2r) were for relector housings. hwy does the envoy use a "s" bulb in a reflector housing?

samandjen1 · 07-31-2007, 12:27 AM

S is for headlight with built in shield ( envoy has a built in shield)

R is for headlight without built in shield

S/R has nothing to do with the silver box on OEM GM HID

jwood562 · 07-31-2007, 02:48 AM

cool that makes sense for the shield.

i know the R/S has nothing to do with the silver box but the 1/2 does... D1R and D2R. the D1R has the silver box and D2R dfoes not.

the envoy has the silver box so i thought it was D1S.

travy · 07-31-2007, 09:48 AM

Yeah, I didn't know if envoys switched some time between d1r/s to d2r/s

samandjen1 · 07-31-2007, 04:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by travy

Yeah, I didn't know if envoys switched some time between d1r/s to d2r/s

I have D2S in mine now and the are aftermarket Phillips bulbs, and there is no silver ignitor box

jwood562 · 07-31-2007, 06:58 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by samandjen1

I have D2S in mine now and the are aftermarket Phillips bulbs, and there is no silver ignitor box

what ballasts do you have and how is the bulb held into the headlight?Oem gm ballasts have the d1 connection. is your whole set up non- gm?

the oem bulbs utilize the silver box with tabs to screw it down to the headlight.

samandjen1 · 07-31-2007, 09:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by jwood562

what ballasts do you have and how is the bulb held into the headlight?Oem gm ballasts have the d1 connection. is your whole set up non- gm?

the oem bulbs utilize the silver box with tabs to screw it down to the headlight.

phillips bulbs and ballasts. i made a custom bracket to hold the bulb in.

Headlights are 2000 GMC Envoy HID

jwood562 · 08-01-2007, 02:35 AM

ok that makes more sense then because i did the exact same thing. i used lexus ballasts and d2s bulbs and custom brackets to hold the bulbs.

to help the original poster.... is it safe to say that from the factory envoys came with d1s bulbs.

BudRacing · 08-02-2007, 06:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by brandonb85

Is it possible to replace with normal jimmy headlights? or could you use less watt bulbs in the highbeams and drive like that for now? Let me know. OR a complete fix on the HID's. Thanks in advance.

Brandon

Until you get it fixed you could stick some electrical tape on your headlight right in front of the high beam bulb, just enough to keep the beam out of people's eyes.

samandjen1 · 08-03-2007, 11:58 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by BudRacing

Until you get it fixed you could stick some electrical tape on your headlight right in front of the high beam bulb, just enough to keep the beam out of people's eyes.

Just use the adjusting screw to aim the headlights down.

BudRacing · 08-04-2007, 12:06 AM

I'd rather pull some tape than readjust my headlights.

samandjen1 · 08-05-2007, 12:34 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by BudRacing

I'd rather pull some tape than readjust my headlights.

ok, just hope the heat from the headlights doesnt bake onto the lense and ruin them.

Goran · 08-07-2007, 10:17 AM

The bulbs don't come out... atleast mine didn't...

Cheapest way is buy a complete aftermarket conversion kit... pull out all the GM crap and put in aftermarket setup!! It cost me $260 Canadian for 2 complete bulbs/brackets/igniters etc... fab up a little bracket to keep the bulb in, and you're good to go...

hope this helps...

07-29-2007, 11:58 PM	#1
brandonb85 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4 Location: User is: OffLine	Envoy HID replacement (please help) I have had a HID bulb out on my 1998 Envoy for quite some time now, and finally the second has gone. I have been driving with just the high beams and been pulled over three times. One more is my last(so the local PD says) They are saying it will be $600 to fix. I dont want to pay that much nor do I want to drive at night and get a ticket. Is it possible to replace with normal jimmy headlights? or could you use less watt bulbs in the highbeams and drive like that for now? Let me know. OR a complete fix on the HID's. Thanks in advance. Brandon
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07-30-2007, 09:45 AM	#2
travy Megabyte Age: 23 Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,656 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) what kind does your the 98 envoys use? d1r ones?
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07-30-2007, 10:19 AM	#3
samandjen1 Polishing Guru Age: 36 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,785 Location: South Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) Envoys use D2S You have to buy GM bulbs or replace the bulbs and ignitors with after market. GM have a special connectors. If you want the colors to match you need to do both side at the same time.
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07-30-2007, 03:08 PM	#4
brandonb85 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) How will i know if it is the bulb itself or the ballast? Thanks in advance.
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07-30-2007, 03:16 PM	#5
samandjen1 Polishing Guru Age: 36 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,785 Location: South Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) Quote: Originally Posted by brandonb85 How will i know if it is the bulb itself or the ballast? Thanks in advance. pull the bulb out and see if its black.
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07-30-2007, 10:38 PM	#6
jwood562 Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 595 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) im confused. d2s bulbs look different to me. i thought they used d1s OEM because the silver box on the back of the bulb and the ballast connectors. i did my envoy conversion and used d2s bulbs but i had to make a braket to hold the bulbs in and i used oem lexus ballasts. could you also clear something else up. all the research i did always stated that the "S" at the end of the bulb (d1s, d2s) were always for projectors and the "r" bulbs (d1r,d2r) were for relector housings. hwy does the envoy use a "s" bulb in a reflector housing?
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07-31-2007, 12:27 AM	#7
samandjen1 Polishing Guru Age: 36 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,785 Location: South Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) S is for headlight with built in shield ( envoy has a built in shield) R is for headlight without built in shield S/R has nothing to do with the silver box on OEM GM HID
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07-31-2007, 02:48 AM	#8
jwood562 Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 595 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) cool that makes sense for the shield. i know the R/S has nothing to do with the silver box but the 1/2 does... D1R and D2R. the D1R has the silver box and D2R dfoes not. the envoy has the silver box so i thought it was D1S.
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07-31-2007, 09:48 AM	#9
travy Megabyte Age: 23 Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,656 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) Yeah, I didn't know if envoys switched some time between d1r/s to d2r/s
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07-31-2007, 04:52 PM	#10
samandjen1 Polishing Guru Age: 36 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,785 Location: South Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) Quote: Originally Posted by travy Yeah, I didn't know if envoys switched some time between d1r/s to d2r/s I have D2S in mine now and the are aftermarket Phillips bulbs, and there is no silver ignitor box
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07-31-2007, 06:58 PM	#11
jwood562 Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 595 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) Quote: Originally Posted by samandjen1 I have D2S in mine now and the are aftermarket Phillips bulbs, and there is no silver ignitor box what ballasts do you have and how is the bulb held into the headlight?Oem gm ballasts have the d1 connection. is your whole set up non- gm? the oem bulbs utilize the silver box with tabs to screw it down to the headlight.
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07-31-2007, 09:00 PM	#12
samandjen1 Polishing Guru Age: 36 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,785 Location: South Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) Quote: Originally Posted by jwood562 what ballasts do you have and how is the bulb held into the headlight?Oem gm ballasts have the d1 connection. is your whole set up non- gm? the oem bulbs utilize the silver box with tabs to screw it down to the headlight. phillips bulbs and ballasts. i made a custom bracket to hold the bulb in. Headlights are 2000 GMC Envoy HID
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08-01-2007, 02:35 AM	#13
jwood562 Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 595 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) ok that makes more sense then because i did the exact same thing. i used lexus ballasts and d2s bulbs and custom brackets to hold the bulbs. to help the original poster.... is it safe to say that from the factory envoys came with d1s bulbs.
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08-02-2007, 06:28 PM	#14
BudRacing Molon Labe Age: 23 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,924 Location: Statesboro, Ga User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) Quote: Originally Posted by brandonb85 Is it possible to replace with normal jimmy headlights? or could you use less watt bulbs in the highbeams and drive like that for now? Let me know. OR a complete fix on the HID's. Thanks in advance. Brandon Until you get it fixed you could stick some electrical tape on your headlight right in front of the high beam bulb, just enough to keep the beam out of people's eyes.
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08-03-2007, 11:58 AM	#15
samandjen1 Polishing Guru Age: 36 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,785 Location: South Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) Quote: Originally Posted by BudRacing Until you get it fixed you could stick some electrical tape on your headlight right in front of the high beam bulb, just enough to keep the beam out of people's eyes. Just use the adjusting screw to aim the headlights down.
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08-04-2007, 12:06 AM	#16
BudRacing Molon Labe Age: 23 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,924 Location: Statesboro, Ga User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) I'd rather pull some tape than readjust my headlights.
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08-05-2007, 12:34 AM	#17
samandjen1 Polishing Guru Age: 36 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,785 Location: South Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) Quote: Originally Posted by BudRacing I'd rather pull some tape than readjust my headlights. ok, just hope the heat from the headlights doesnt bake onto the lense and ruin them.
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08-07-2007, 10:17 AM	#18
Goran Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 191 Location: Ontario User is: OffLine	Re: Envoy HID replacement (please help) The bulbs don't come out... atleast mine didn't... Cheapest way is buy a complete aftermarket conversion kit... pull out all the GM crap and put in aftermarket setup!! It cost me $260 Canadian for 2 complete bulbs/brackets/igniters etc... fab up a little bracket to keep the bulb in, and you're good to go... hope this helps...
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