4x4 blazer = canyon carver

ohsolos10 · 10-21-2007, 04:00 PM

well i have been tossing around the idea for a while now i want to get a 2 door 2nd gen 4x4 blazer lower it as much as possible and if possible use a bravada transfer case has anyone got any link to the transfer case swap? what is the lowest you can go and still retain all the front 4x4 part? fabing stuff up is not a problem just havent really played with 4x4's before but seems like it could be a fun project so links to parts pics anything really i want to do as much research as possible. i did find a link that had new control arms and removed the torsin bars and used coil overs so that helped

klensdime · 10-21-2007, 04:23 PM

bump b/c im lowering my 4x4 2dr soon. and wheres the coilover conversion link?

Criticalbeatdown95s · 10-21-2007, 04:24 PM

I've got a five/six and had to remove the halfshafts because of the high speed humming. So you'll want to go 3-4 in the front if you care about the 4wd.

ohsolos10 · 10-21-2007, 04:27 PM

http://www.raceprovenmotors.com/coilovers.html theres the link and what keeps you from going lower do the halfshafts bind is that the problem does anyone make a high angle halfshaft?

Mr Bravada · 10-21-2007, 10:57 PM

not that i have seen, check the sy/ty forums for aftermarket halfshafts.

ohsolos10 · 10-21-2007, 11:52 PM

is the 4x4 components the same on 2nd gens as first gens like control arms shafts ect.

Mr Bravada · 10-22-2007, 03:40 PM

i'm not sure, i have been reading that they are the same up till '98 but i am still searching on it

95xtreme · 10-22-2007, 03:55 PM

They are the same the only difference is sway bar mounts and 98& up spindles have the 2 piston brakes. As far as coil overs they can be bought at turbotime.com, raceprovenmotorsports.com so on and so forth.

Right now I am working on control arms for the coilover swap. rpm has some but they are pricey and not the best design appearance wise.
They will be ready around christmas.

Also I would use an astro van transfer case since it does not have the smarttrack system and 3/4 in the truck in the sig and has been running fine for 4 plus years.

ohsolos10 · 10-22-2007, 05:31 PM

you said rpm had some do you have a link to them i could not find them? what would your opinion be for the years to get 95-97 or 98 up its got to be 2 dr and its got to be 4x4? for what i want to build i know things like brakes and suspension are going to be a HUGE part of the build

ohsolos10 · 10-22-2007, 05:33 PM

and what are the causes for broke shafts if lowered to far and what could solve those problems custom made shafts notching frame ect???

95xtreme · 10-23-2007, 12:14 AM

http://www.raceprovenmotors.com/

95xtreme · 10-29-2007, 12:38 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ohsolos10

and what are the causes for broke shafts if lowered to far and what could solve those problems custom made shafts notching frame ect???

If you go coil oves which are the only way to go to make a true handling truck just set them up so the shaft is parallel to the lower control arm and the control arm should be parallel to the ground. I have an original 88 blazer passenger side cv shaft on my truck and the driver side has been replaced a couple times which I figured out this weekend was caused by the bushings on the diff going bad causing more front to back movement wearing out the joints. You can get a custom shaft made for 100-150 dollars.

95xtreme · 10-29-2007, 12:40 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ohsolos10

you said rpm had some do you have a link to them i could not find them? what would your opinion be for the years to get 95-97 or 98 up its got to be 2 dr and its got to be 4x4? for what i want to build i know things like brakes and suspension are going to be a HUGE part of the build

Well the 98 and up can come with rear disk brakes and the dual piston front brakes. But they are both pretty equal. depends what you find in good shape.

greencactus3 · 10-29-2007, 12:53 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 95xtreme

If you go coil oves which are the only way to go to make a true handling truck just set them up so the shaft is parallel to the lower control arm and the control arm should be parallel to the ground. I have an original 88 blazer passenger side cv shaft on my truck and the driver side has been replaced a couple times which I figured out this weekend was caused by the bushings on the diff going bad causing more front to back movement wearing out the joints. You can get a custom shaft made for 100-150 dollars.

95xtreme · 10-29-2007, 01:13 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3

Don't throw that up because you are sick of norcall ss or what ever if you read before saying anything you would see I was speaking about an AWD or 4wd setup since torsion bars are not meant for handling.

From switching to coil overs from torsion bars you sve weight and also eliminate a ton of body role..

I have torsion bars in my truck in the sig and what keeps it from truely handling well are the torsion bars since they are providing a ton of body roll.

You should do a little reading on syty.net since they are the same suspension designs and frame.

greencactus3 · 10-29-2007, 01:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 95xtreme

Don't throw that up because you are sick of norcall ss or what ever if you read before saying anything you would see I was speaking about an AWD or 4wd setup since torsion bars are not meant for handling.

From switching to coil overs from torsion bars you sve weight and also eliminate a ton of body role..

I have torsion bars in my truck in the sig and what keeps it from truely handling well are the torsion bars since they are providing a ton of body roll.

You should do a little reading on syty.net since they are the same suspension designs and frame.

lol
i just like using the smilies

95xtreme · 10-29-2007, 01:33 AM

oh because I agree coil overs are not always the only option but on 4wd they are about the only good option I have seen.

95xtreme · 10-31-2007, 03:13 PM

I just wanted to bump this thread to talk about half shafts.

After talking to a friend at a drive line shop and a automotive engineer we came to the conclusion the only reason the driver's side cv wears out is due to how it becomes parallel to the ground causing it stress because it is basically to long for the opening. I am having a slighty shorten half shaft made costing about 120 dollars(same as a new one) and going to see if that helps.

So hope this helps we shall see.

10-21-2007, 04:00 PM	#1
ohsolos10 sawzall's are cool Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,330 Location: holloman afb nm User is: OffLine	4x4 blazer = canyon carver well i have been tossing around the idea for a while now i want to get a 2 door 2nd gen 4x4 blazer lower it as much as possible and if possible use a bravada transfer case has anyone got any link to the transfer case swap? what is the lowest you can go and still retain all the front 4x4 part? fabing stuff up is not a problem just havent really played with 4x4's before but seems like it could be a fun project so links to parts pics anything really i want to do as much research as possible. i did find a link that had new control arms and removed the torsin bars and used coil overs so that helped Last edited by ohsolos10 : 10-21-2007 at 04:28 PM.
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10-21-2007, 04:23 PM	#2
klensdime Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 940 Location: Kutztown, East Burg User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver bump b/c im lowering my 4x4 2dr soon. and wheres the coilover conversion link?
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10-21-2007, 04:24 PM	#3
Criticalbeatdown95s Plan Havin MF Age: 30 Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,996 Location: Dirty Glove User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver I've got a five/six and had to remove the halfshafts because of the high speed humming. So you'll want to go 3-4 in the front if you care about the 4wd.
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10-21-2007, 04:27 PM	#4
ohsolos10 sawzall's are cool Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,330 Location: holloman afb nm User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver http://www.raceprovenmotors.com/coilovers.html theres the link and what keeps you from going lower do the halfshafts bind is that the problem does anyone make a high angle halfshaft?
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10-21-2007, 10:57 PM	#5
Mr Bravada graduated!!!! Age: 27 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,045 Location: Anchorage Ak User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver not that i have seen, check the sy/ty forums for aftermarket halfshafts.
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10-21-2007, 11:52 PM	#6
ohsolos10 sawzall's are cool Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,330 Location: holloman afb nm User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver is the 4x4 components the same on 2nd gens as first gens like control arms shafts ect.
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10-22-2007, 03:40 PM	#7
Mr Bravada graduated!!!! Age: 27 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,045 Location: Anchorage Ak User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver i'm not sure, i have been reading that they are the same up till '98 but i am still searching on it
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10-22-2007, 03:55 PM	#8
95xtreme Off Vanning. bbl Age: 23 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,510 Location: Fargo don't ya know User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver They are the same the only difference is sway bar mounts and 98& up spindles have the 2 piston brakes. As far as coil overs they can be bought at turbotime.com, raceprovenmotorsports.com so on and so forth. Right now I am working on control arms for the coilover swap. rpm has some but they are pricey and not the best design appearance wise. They will be ready around christmas. Also I would use an astro van transfer case since it does not have the smarttrack system and 3/4 in the truck in the sig and has been running fine for 4 plus years.
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10-22-2007, 05:31 PM	#9
ohsolos10 sawzall's are cool Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,330 Location: holloman afb nm User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver you said rpm had some do you have a link to them i could not find them? what would your opinion be for the years to get 95-97 or 98 up its got to be 2 dr and its got to be 4x4? for what i want to build i know things like brakes and suspension are going to be a HUGE part of the build
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10-22-2007, 05:33 PM	#10
ohsolos10 sawzall's are cool Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,330 Location: holloman afb nm User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver and what are the causes for broke shafts if lowered to far and what could solve those problems custom made shafts notching frame ect???
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10-23-2007, 12:14 AM	#11
95xtreme Off Vanning. bbl Age: 23 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,510 Location: Fargo don't ya know User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver http://www.raceprovenmotors.com/
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10-29-2007, 12:38 AM	#12
95xtreme Off Vanning. bbl Age: 23 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,510 Location: Fargo don't ya know User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver Quote: Originally Posted by ohsolos10 and what are the causes for broke shafts if lowered to far and what could solve those problems custom made shafts notching frame ect??? If you go coil oves which are the only way to go to make a true handling truck just set them up so the shaft is parallel to the lower control arm and the control arm should be parallel to the ground. I have an original 88 blazer passenger side cv shaft on my truck and the driver side has been replaced a couple times which I figured out this weekend was caused by the bushings on the diff going bad causing more front to back movement wearing out the joints. You can get a custom shaft made for 100-150 dollars.
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10-29-2007, 12:40 AM	#13
95xtreme Off Vanning. bbl Age: 23 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,510 Location: Fargo don't ya know User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver Quote: Originally Posted by ohsolos10 you said rpm had some do you have a link to them i could not find them? what would your opinion be for the years to get 95-97 or 98 up its got to be 2 dr and its got to be 4x4? for what i want to build i know things like brakes and suspension are going to be a HUGE part of the build Well the 98 and up can come with rear disk brakes and the dual piston front brakes. But they are both pretty equal. depends what you find in good shape.
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10-29-2007, 12:53 AM	#14
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,488 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver Quote: Originally Posted by 95xtreme If you go coil oves which are the only way to go to make a true handling truck just set them up so the shaft is parallel to the lower control arm and the control arm should be parallel to the ground. I have an original 88 blazer passenger side cv shaft on my truck and the driver side has been replaced a couple times which I figured out this weekend was caused by the bushings on the diff going bad causing more front to back movement wearing out the joints. You can get a custom shaft made for 100-150 dollars.
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10-29-2007, 01:13 AM	#15
95xtreme Off Vanning. bbl Age: 23 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,510 Location: Fargo don't ya know User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3 Don't throw that up because you are sick of norcall ss or what ever if you read before saying anything you would see I was speaking about an AWD or 4wd setup since torsion bars are not meant for handling. From switching to coil overs from torsion bars you sve weight and also eliminate a ton of body role.. I have torsion bars in my truck in the sig and what keeps it from truely handling well are the torsion bars since they are providing a ton of body roll. You should do a little reading on syty.net since they are the same suspension designs and frame.
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10-29-2007, 01:29 AM	#16
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,488 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver Quote: Originally Posted by 95xtreme Don't throw that up because you are sick of norcall ss or what ever if you read before saying anything you would see I was speaking about an AWD or 4wd setup since torsion bars are not meant for handling. From switching to coil overs from torsion bars you sve weight and also eliminate a ton of body role.. I have torsion bars in my truck in the sig and what keeps it from truely handling well are the torsion bars since they are providing a ton of body roll. You should do a little reading on syty.net since they are the same suspension designs and frame. lol i just like using the smilies
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10-29-2007, 01:33 AM	#17
95xtreme Off Vanning. bbl Age: 23 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,510 Location: Fargo don't ya know User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver oh because I agree coil overs are not always the only option but on 4wd they are about the only good option I have seen.
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10-31-2007, 03:13 PM	#18
95xtreme Off Vanning. bbl Age: 23 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,510 Location: Fargo don't ya know User is: OffLine	Re: 4x4 blazer = canyon carver I just wanted to bump this thread to talk about half shafts. After talking to a friend at a drive line shop and a automotive engineer we came to the conclusion the only reason the driver's side cv wears out is due to how it becomes parallel to the ground causing it stress because it is basically to long for the opening. I am having a slighty shorten half shaft made costing about 120 dollars(same as a new one) and going to see if that helps. So hope this helps we shall see.
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