Urethane Bushings on 1st Gen

[greencactus3]

Quote: Originally Posted by MadMikeZ28

Well I was wondering where you were going with this little tid bit of info when we are talking bushings here and not how some shocks obviously absorb bumps beter than others.

see the post i quoted. lt1s10 was comparing non comparable setups

[MadMikeZ28]

Quote: Originally Posted by lt1s10onair

just to throw in my 2 cents.... i have 2 ext. cab 2nd gens.... my bagged one, has shockwaves, 4 link and poly bushings, and it handles amazing...... my 2000 is static dropped 4/5, and it handles like a dead salmon lol.... the bushings are well worth the time and money

This looks as if he is just giving his expirience with poly bushing and included other info of his set up so the OP would know how he likes them. He also drives a second gen. He also has bags and 4 link. WTF

[greencactus3]

Quote: Originally Posted by MadMikeZ28

This looks as if he is just giving his expirience with poly bushing and included other info of his set up so the OP would know how he likes them. He also drives a second gen. He also has bags and 4 link. WTF

i dont understand... are you angry at me or him or something :confused:

[Bmanxer]

Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3

i dont understand... are you angry at me or him or something :confused:

I think it may be directed at you cactus

[phantom_mia]

im putting in my 2 cents for what its worth, ive got a 91 short cab/box it has the sport suspension package from the factory, ive replaced the control arm bushings with energy suspension systems poly urethene bushings and also the sway bar mounts and end links with the trany mount as well, i put rancho suspensions rs5000 shocks on it and it rides at stock height on 235 60 bfgoodrich radial ta's, i did the upgrade 8 years ago and the running joke about my noma is after youve stuffed yourself with thanksgiving day dinner if you want desert take a 20 minute ride in my truck and it will shake dinner down far enough to have seconds and desert. yea it doesnt handle bumps to well but on a smooth road its one of the best rides ive ever been in theres practically no suspension travel even when you push down on it but the weird thing is if you put 6 to 800 lbs of weight in the back you get a decent ride out of it. the tranny mount does get a little old with the vibrations after while. i hope this helps with your decision

[89-S-Dime]

Poly bushings work great on the swaybar, on control arms they kinda suck

[Bmanxer]

Quote: Originally Posted by phantom_mia

im putting in my 2 cents for what its worth, ive got a 91 short cab/box it has the sport suspension package from the factory, ive replaced the control arm bushings with energy suspension systems poly urethene bushings and also the sway bar mounts and end links with the trany mount as well, i put rancho suspensions rs5000 shocks on it and it rides at stock height on 235 60 bfgoodrich radial ta's, i did the upgrade 8 years ago and the running joke about my noma is after youve stuffed yourself with thanksgiving day dinner if you want desert take a 20 minute ride in my truck and it will shake dinner down far enough to have seconds and desert. yea it doesnt handle bumps to well but on a smooth road its one of the best rides ive ever been in theres practically no suspension travel even when you push down on it but the weird thing is if you put 6 to 800 lbs of weight in the back you get a decent ride out of it. the tranny mount does get a little old with the vibrations after while. i hope this helps with your decision

It does help and thanks for the input!!! So is the vibrations you are talking about attributed to the transmission mount passing driveline vibrations into the cab? Or is that the road itself passing them through the bushings you replaced all over the vehicle?

[Bmanxer]

Quote: Originally Posted by 89-S-Dime

Poly bushings work great on the swaybar, on control arms they kinda suck

Why would they suck on the control arms?

[phantom_mia]

its a combination of both but you really notice the vibrations get worst when you put a tranny mount in, the control arm and sway bar add some but its tollerable the tranny takes some getting use to, and 3 burnt rear tires later its not really softend up any

[Bmanxer]

Quote: Originally Posted by phantom_mia

its a combination of both but you really notice the vibrations get worst when you put a tranny mount in, the control arm and sway bar add some but its tollerable the tranny takes some getting use to, and 3 burnt rear tires later its not really softend up any

I hear ya. So do you think I should wait to put this in til AFTER my trip to VA from FL?

[1stGen4.3]

I would do all of the upgraded mounts except for the trans and motor, that will help your handling and won't drive you nuts with vibrations entering the cab. I run a poly mount on my Camaro and it puts tons of vibrations into the interior but that's more of a weekend only car, it's getting solid motor mounts soon so the vibration isn't an issue on it. You might also want to skip out on the body mounts, those will telegraph into your cab as well. I myself would go ahead and do the suspension parts and skip the motor, trans, and body mounts. This should be a good compromise between handling and road noise.

[phantom_mia]

yea i agree with 1stgen do the suspension mounts and leave the motor, trans and body to the race cars that only get driven on weekends. unless you like having your fillings replaced

[Bmanxer]

Damn, Ok so sounds like the tranny mount is out, cuz I want my truck to be both comfy and handle well, (it aint a racecar ) But ya'll really think the body mounts will be that bad? What do you suppose it would be like if I stuffed my seats full of premium padding and gel instead, to cancel out the vibrations coming through the body? I dropped about 200 on the kit and I'd like to use more than just half of it!

[phantom_mia]

stick the body mounts in and see how bad they are hell worst case you just remove them

[1stGen4.3]

Or stick the rest of the kit up on eBay, you can probably make quite a bit back selling it part by part. I don't think the body mounts would be so bad on the engine vibration because your rubber engine and trans mounts absorb alot of that, I think it would be noticeable on road noise telegraphing into the cab. I remember a guy swapping a diesel into a third gen camaro and had alot of trouble with the engine noise because the car was unibody and had no isolation from the engine/frame. You're doing pretty much the same thing here, allowing more of what happens to the frame to end up in the vehicle. As said before though, you might want to just give them a try; it's going to be up to the end user to judge.

[Bmanxer]

Hmmm throughout this install I'll also be completely sound dampening the ENTIRE interior of the dime. Firewall, roof, back wall, entire doors, floorboard, think that may insulate some of the body vibes?

[lt1s10onair]

if ur gonna do poly bushings, uid recommend doin the control arms, and sway bar.... as i previously stated, my bagged truck handles awesome with them, and i have absolutely no complaints about them.... probably because i didnt do body mounts, or motor mounts.... i have an lt1 with a .500+ lift cam, so ive got vibration (poly or no poly)....
and i understand that my 2 trucks are non-comparable, but i was giving a basis of comparison.... hope this helps

[Bmanxer]

Quote: Originally Posted by lt1s10onair

if ur gonna do poly bushings, uid recommend doin the control arms, and sway bar.... as i previously stated, my bagged truck handles awesome with them, and i have absolutely no complaints about them.... probably because i didnt do body mounts, or motor mounts.... i have an lt1 with a .500+ lift cam, so ive got vibration (poly or no poly)....
and i understand that my 2 trucks are non-comparable, but i was giving a basis of comparison.... hope this helps

It does help man thanks much for your input!!! I will roll with just the suspension first then if it doesn't ride too bad I'll test out the body mounts.

[Smith Kustoms]

Just wanted to clear this up..I am looking to replace my body mount bushings also...So no Ploy-urathane bushings, go rubber? Who makes them in the rubber...Just did a frame off. sandblasted and painted the frame looking to get body bushings soon so I can put my blazer body back onto the chassis...Thanks..

[92 s10 project]

You can go to LMC for the body bushings and I think you should be able to grab them at your local auto stores too. From what I have found cost is about the same between rubber and poly sets.

[Smith Kustoms]

How is the lmc set? I heard someone on here said that they had problems with them not fitting...

[Smith Kustoms]

How is the LMC set? I heard someone on here say they had problems with them not fitting right....