Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder

Kiko · 05-01-2008, 02:26 AM

I have gotten everything removed including the old cylinder but my problem is when i insert the new cylinder it will crank the truck and turn it off BUT it won't turn back to the lock position so i can remove the key. The cylinder is new and i can't figure out why it won't turn back. Has anybody else had trouble with the cylinder doing this? I was almost finished then thanks to this i got stopped in my tracks and now my truck is sitting half apart right now

bg's · 05-01-2008, 03:00 AM

Take a look at this diagram. You see the toothed shaft ?
It may be that it has moved passed it's stop and is getting
jammed. Also you'll want to make sure the steer wheel
lock shaft isn't causing any problems.

Kiko · 05-01-2008, 09:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by bg's

Take a look at this diagram. You see the toothed shaft ?
It may be that it has moved passed it's stop and is getting
jammed. Also you'll want to make sure the steer wheel
lock shaft isn't causing any problems.

Do you mean the actuator rack? How do i fix that? Do i just get the cover off and reposition the geared piece by hand?

MadMikeZ28 · 05-01-2008, 01:36 PM

You should not have had to remove anything to damage or take apart the actuator to get it miss located. Did you replace the key cylinder because of the very problem you are having now? If so then the actuator could be broken or the plastic gear. I have seen the actuator broken but never the plastic gear unless it was a theft. Or the spring for the lock rod could be broke and jambing it.
Or....
The ignition switch could be bad and causing it to jamb the rod that is attached to the actuator.
You should be able to feel the rod that rides on top of the steering colum tube from down below. As you turn the key to off is the rod bending/bulging?

***fetuss10*** · 05-02-2008, 04:27 AM

I'm going to sticky this. Thanks BG.

Kiko · 05-02-2008, 09:48 AM

Got it. I just took out the screws holding the column and messed with the actuator rack a little and re-set it.

aredcue55 · 06-04-2008, 12:35 PM

What was the orignal problem with the cylinder? On my 99 S10 the key now goes in the cylinder but it won"t turn the switch. It used to go with a little wiggle but now it won't move at all. Any tips or instructions on replacing would be very helpful.
THANKS

Kiko · 06-04-2008, 08:06 PM

My problem was that the cylinder would turn without a key. And considering i didn't have keys to my door locks that was a major problem.

TCossuto · 06-10-2008, 09:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kiko

My problem was that the cylinder would turn without a key. And considering i didn't have keys to my door locks that was a major problem.

psh I wish someone would steal my shit. I leave the keys in the truck 24/7 with windows open!

Kiko · 06-11-2008, 02:40 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by TCossuto

psh I wish someone would steal my shit. I leave the keys in the truck 24/7 with windows open!

If you don't want it i'd be more than happy to take it off your hands. Just give me your address and i'll come by with a trailer and tow it to my house

fordktpjoe · 06-14-2008, 12:21 AM

Mine works in every position except ACC. it just absolutely WILL NOT turn backward.

Kiko · 06-14-2008, 02:56 AM

Check the little gear inside where the cylinder goes. I had to mess with mine using a small flathead screwdriver to get it set back the way it needed to be.

A-cope · 07-03-2008, 09:32 PM

well on mine i just got a new battery and went to crank it up and it went one click forward, as it would if you only wanted to turn on the battery to listen to the radio without actually cranking the truck and wont move forwards or bacwards...and i dont know what to do

its an 88 model

awilkie · 07-05-2008, 01:00 AM

Isn't there a safety release switch behind the keyhole that needs to be hooked up properly to release the key to the position where you can take it out? I know my 88 has this.

A-cope · 07-06-2008, 12:33 AM

yea but it doesnt do anything..now i just need to know how to get the plastic off the steering column to replace it

Quote: Originally Posted by awilkie

Isn't there a safety release switch behind the keyhole that needs to be hooked up properly to release the key to the position where you can take it out? I know my 88 has this.

Golana · 10-26-2008, 10:54 PM

need images back up.

im having problems even getting to my ignition cyl, and a picture would probably help alot

Kiko · 10-27-2008, 02:25 AM

I'll try to get pictures up sometime tommorow after i get home from work and get done with my truck. Probably about 7pm. I think i have some on my laptop somewhere.

Golana · 10-27-2008, 09:07 AM

thats alright bro, i got it figured out. i could write a how-to on taking your column apart to get to the ignition cyl.

Jah · 11-05-2008, 03:06 PM

Kiko Im having the same problem , Im newer to s10s . Can ya explain for me a little better how you fixed your problem.

mike_pasara · 12-10-2008, 11:10 PM

I don't know it's the same issue but sometimes I have trouble trying to turn my ignition to the off position.

I'll turn the key to start the truck then release which sets it to the on position. 1 click back shuts the truck off but everything else stays on inside the truck then i have to fight to get it to click a 2nd time to shut it off. I hate it because it takes like 20 seconds to fight with it just to turn it off.

***fetuss10*** · 12-10-2008, 11:12 PM

actually yeah thats the start of showing its about to wear out completely. thats what mine did

mike_pasara · 12-10-2008, 11:37 PM

so what's the cost to fix this?

Kiko · 12-11-2008, 12:55 AM

About $20. The tools are free to rent so i don't factor them in.

roofer1011 · 04-05-2009, 02:22 PM

i just replaced the clutch and slave cyl and when i connected the battery the starter turns over in any ign switch position can some one please help me

Kiko · 04-06-2009, 12:53 AM

Replacing the clutch and slave cylinder shouldn't affect that...

Sounds like a wire is connected wrong.

emttravis · 07-04-2009, 02:39 PM

hi i am having a similar problem with my 93' 5speed i can turn it to on, start and off ok but i can not turn it back to acc. this is annoying because i don't like runing power to everything when i just want to listen to the radio.

MadMikeZ28 · 07-04-2009, 06:56 PM

Need to adjust the switch itself. Its located down towards the bottom of the column about 12" from the firewall on top of the tube. You will see a long flat plug for the turn siganl switch, the ignition switch is above that.

Since you can not get it into ACC you need to loosen the 5/16 (I think) bolts holding the switch on the left side and slid the switch up just a bit. Snug the bolts and try it.

Tarpon87 · 10-06-2009, 10:55 AM

Ive got a 92 S10, originially I was having the issue of not being able to get the truck to turn off or get my key out. Then for the last couple months it stopped being an issue. Now I cant get the the truck on, the ignition only turns about half way and then stops. I was also able to start the truck w/o a key. Is there an easy fix for this or a write up?
Thanks

05-01-2008, 02:26 AM	#1
Kiko Crazy for a square body Age: 22 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,819 Location: Mobile,Alabama User is: OffLine	Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder I have gotten everything removed including the old cylinder but my problem is when i insert the new cylinder it will crank the truck and turn it off BUT it won't turn back to the lock position so i can remove the key. The cylinder is new and i can't figure out why it won't turn back. Has anybody else had trouble with the cylinder doing this? I was almost finished then thanks to this i got stopped in my tracks and now my truck is sitting half apart right now
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05-01-2008, 03:00 AM	#2
bg's crap Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 8,096 Location: Who cares.. User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder Take a look at this diagram. You see the toothed shaft ? It may be that it has moved passed it's stop and is getting jammed. Also you'll want to make sure the steer wheel lock shaft isn't causing any problems.
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05-01-2008, 09:55 AM	#3
Kiko Crazy for a square body Age: 22 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,819 Location: Mobile,Alabama User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder Quote: Originally Posted by bg's Take a look at this diagram. You see the toothed shaft ? It may be that it has moved passed it's stop and is getting jammed. Also you'll want to make sure the steer wheel lock shaft isn't causing any problems. Do you mean the actuator rack? How do i fix that? Do i just get the cover off and reposition the geared piece by hand?
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05-01-2008, 01:36 PM	#4
MadMikeZ28 Stealin JTC's sandwichs Age: 41 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,416 Location: In jtc's basement eating the salami sandwich from his fridge User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder You should not have had to remove anything to damage or take apart the actuator to get it miss located. Did you replace the key cylinder because of the very problem you are having now? If so then the actuator could be broken or the plastic gear. I have seen the actuator broken but never the plastic gear unless it was a theft. Or the spring for the lock rod could be broke and jambing it. Or.... The ignition switch could be bad and causing it to jamb the rod that is attached to the actuator. You should be able to feel the rod that rides on top of the steering colum tube from down below. As you turn the key to off is the rod bending/bulging?
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05-02-2008, 09:48 AM	#6
Kiko Crazy for a square body Age: 22 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,819 Location: Mobile,Alabama User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder Got it. I just took out the screws holding the column and messed with the actuator rack a little and re-set it.
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06-04-2008, 12:35 PM	#7
aredcue55 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder What was the orignal problem with the cylinder? On my 99 S10 the key now goes in the cylinder but it won"t turn the switch. It used to go with a little wiggle but now it won't move at all. Any tips or instructions on replacing would be very helpful. THANKS
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06-04-2008, 08:06 PM	#8
Kiko Crazy for a square body Age: 22 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,819 Location: Mobile,Alabama User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder My problem was that the cylinder would turn without a key. And considering i didn't have keys to my door locks that was a major problem.
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06-10-2008, 09:31 PM	#9
TCossuto Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 752 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder Quote: Originally Posted by Kiko My problem was that the cylinder would turn without a key. And considering i didn't have keys to my door locks that was a major problem. psh I wish someone would steal my shit. I leave the keys in the truck 24/7 with windows open!
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06-11-2008, 02:40 AM	#10
Kiko Crazy for a square body Age: 22 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,819 Location: Mobile,Alabama User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder Quote: Originally Posted by TCossuto psh I wish someone would steal my shit. I leave the keys in the truck 24/7 with windows open! If you don't want it i'd be more than happy to take it off your hands. Just give me your address and i'll come by with a trailer and tow it to my house
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06-14-2008, 12:21 AM	#11
fordktpjoe Registered User Age: 44 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 106 Location: Bloomfield, Kentucky User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder Mine works in every position except ACC. it just absolutely WILL NOT turn backward.
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06-14-2008, 02:56 AM	#12
Kiko Crazy for a square body Age: 22 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,819 Location: Mobile,Alabama User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder Check the little gear inside where the cylinder goes. I had to mess with mine using a small flathead screwdriver to get it set back the way it needed to be.
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07-03-2008, 09:32 PM	#13
A-cope OL' COPE Age: 18 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3 Location: milton fl User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder well on mine i just got a new battery and went to crank it up and it went one click forward, as it would if you only wanted to turn on the battery to listen to the radio without actually cranking the truck and wont move forwards or bacwards...and i dont know what to do its an 88 model
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07-05-2008, 01:00 AM	#14
awilkie Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 81 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder Isn't there a safety release switch behind the keyhole that needs to be hooked up properly to release the key to the position where you can take it out? I know my 88 has this.
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07-06-2008, 12:33 AM	#15
A-cope OL' COPE Age: 18 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3 Location: milton fl User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder yea but it doesnt do anything..now i just need to know how to get the plastic off the steering column to replace it Quote: Originally Posted by awilkie Isn't there a safety release switch behind the keyhole that needs to be hooked up properly to release the key to the position where you can take it out? I know my 88 has this.
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10-26-2008, 10:54 PM	#16
Golana Truck #121616 Age: 23 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,800 Location: High River, Alberta User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder need images back up. im having problems even getting to my ignition cyl, and a picture would probably help alot
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10-27-2008, 02:25 AM	#17
Kiko Crazy for a square body Age: 22 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,819 Location: Mobile,Alabama User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder I'll try to get pictures up sometime tommorow after i get home from work and get done with my truck. Probably about 7pm. I think i have some on my laptop somewhere.
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10-27-2008, 09:07 AM	#18
Golana Truck #121616 Age: 23 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,800 Location: High River, Alberta User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder thats alright bro, i got it figured out. i could write a how-to on taking your column apart to get to the ignition cyl.
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11-05-2008, 03:06 PM	#19
Jah Banned Age: 27 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 353 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder Kiko Im having the same problem , Im newer to s10s . Can ya explain for me a little better how you fixed your problem.
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12-10-2008, 11:10 PM	#20
mike_pasara Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 22 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder I don't know it's the same issue but sometimes I have trouble trying to turn my ignition to the off position. I'll turn the key to start the truck then release which sets it to the on position. 1 click back shuts the truck off but everything else stays on inside the truck then i have to fight to get it to click a 2nd time to shut it off. I hate it because it takes like 20 seconds to fight with it just to turn it off.
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12-10-2008, 11:37 PM	#22
mike_pasara Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 22 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder so what's the cost to fix this?
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12-11-2008, 12:55 AM	#23
Kiko Crazy for a square body Age: 22 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,819 Location: Mobile,Alabama User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder About $20. The tools are free to rent so i don't factor them in.
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04-05-2009, 02:22 PM	#24
roofer1011 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder i just replaced the clutch and slave cyl and when i connected the battery the starter turns over in any ign switch position can some one please help me
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04-06-2009, 12:53 AM	#25
Kiko Crazy for a square body Age: 22 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,819 Location: Mobile,Alabama User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder Replacing the clutch and slave cylinder shouldn't affect that... Sounds like a wire is connected wrong.
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07-04-2009, 02:39 PM	#26
emttravis Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 49 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder hi i am having a similar problem with my 93' 5speed i can turn it to on, start and off ok but i can not turn it back to acc. this is annoying because i don't like runing power to everything when i just want to listen to the radio.
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07-04-2009, 06:56 PM	#27
MadMikeZ28 Stealin JTC's sandwichs Age: 41 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,416 Location: In jtc's basement eating the salami sandwich from his fridge User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder Need to adjust the switch itself. Its located down towards the bottom of the column about 12" from the firewall on top of the tube. You will see a long flat plug for the turn siganl switch, the ignition switch is above that. Since you can not get it into ACC you need to loosen the 5/16 (I think) bolts holding the switch on the left side and slid the switch up just a bit. Snug the bolts and try it.
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10-06-2009, 10:55 AM	#28
Tarpon87 Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Trouble replacing ignition lock cylinder Ive got a 92 S10, originially I was having the issue of not being able to get the truck to turn off or get my key out. Then for the last couple months it stopped being an issue. Now I cant get the the truck on, the ignition only turns about half way and then stops. I was also able to start the truck w/o a key. Is there an easy fix for this or a write up? Thanks
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