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Hi Guys
Just wondering if you could give me some help. The current glass rubber channels on my truck are cracked and I need to replace it as it causes the window guide to come out when I let the window down. I have tried LMC truck but they only make them for the newer models.
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In my last LMC catalog, they had them listed. Then I got my next mag maybe a month later and they were NOT in the catalog. Kinda ticked me off as I was going to make an order. Did you try calling them to see if they have any in stock?

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Yeah - I called them earlier today and they confirmed that they did not have them
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I got lucky enough to find a good one in a bad door behind my friend's shop. FREE!!!

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are you talking about the rubber strip that goes all around the window
area ? >




http://www.usa1industries.com/produc...roductid=16218

this might help if so.

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f135/h...window-465287/



the above is from Steel Rubber. They have the complete kit
to do both doors for around 145.00 ^

or if you just the belt line weatherstripping they have them for
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www.steelerubber.com
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Re: 91 S10 Door Glass run channel rubbers

if you cant find nice used ones or dealer NOS ones then youre stuck with new chinese crap made ones


and most options are $$$$ for these kind of parts


its difficult.


most of the trucks out there need these replaced,

but its too much trouble or $$ to do it



mine are beyond gone and shot, but im not gonna go and spend this kind of $$ for beat up work truck -with rusted out cab and beat doors- that runs great and strong every day- but that i dont know how long will go before blowing up

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i had an issue with the driver window coming off track. it was caused by the window guides being busted. it took me forever to find the correct name but they snap around the window. only two parts comes in a pair and is less then 8 bucks at autozone. hopefully that is the part your talking about. oh also they seem super easy to snap in but aren't unless it was just me haha
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I've replaced these on 3 of my dimes. I think this is what you're looking for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-94...item3f0a720595

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Thanks for all your help!
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FYI, Steele does NOT have the window channel/rubber kits ($145.00) described above altho listed in their catalog. They are out of stock and have no idea when or if they will get more in. Sorry. I tried to order some for myself. The set I got from LMC were junk. The guides will not hold the glass in the channel. If you don't mind holding/pushing down on the back of the glass while rolling down the window to keep it in the channel, then LMC's are just fine.
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^ Oh that's a bummer about Steele being out of stock. I should of jumped on
them when I had the chance a while ago. I need to do mine and looks like
I blew it.

^ Is it the clips that are crap that came with the LMC deal or the rubber channeling ?
I have a place down in FL that specializes in diff chips as they were the only people
who had the grill retention clips that hold the bottom to the rad support. They may
have a better quality clip for the windows if that's the problem.
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The black plastic channel clips are a PIA to install in the hole on the window. They have to 'pop' together. I use a small socket on one side of the glass (clip) while pushing very hard on the other side of the clip. You'll feel it pop into the hole, you just have to line them up correctly. I bought lots of them from Azone, there were 2 styles. One was JUNK, the other worked perfectly. Sorry, I don't remember which was which. They are cheap though, and you can return the ones that are useless. I did. They are in the "Help" section and are listed as GM window guide clips. The weather strips you are looking for are available on Ebay for reasonable pesos. Thry a search using window and door moldings and weatherstrip and window channel. They list them differently. IIRC, the window channel guide moldings are around $40 each. Somtimes there are lots of them listed, other times only a few listings. Somewhere I posted the complete process for replacement since i"ve done plenty.

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I bought window felts from jcwhitney with weatherstripping (8 pieces total) for 175
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A few years back, I was able to get the outer window scraper that's at the bottom
at a local GM dealer close to town. It wasn't cheap. I think it was either 40 or
60 as this dealer charges list. But it's still on and works great. Doesn't help much,
but it was avail back then. I don't know if it still is or not. This dealer is still showing parts
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http://www.gmpartscounter.com/partlo...layCatalogid=0

Boy, those window channels sure aren't cheap for OEM. Yikes. The inner and outer scrapers aren't
too bad though.

GM parts direct is showing parts as well. And is a bit cheaper for the channels, but not by much.

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...layCatalogid=0

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I did find this from Fairchild Ind. I believe kits are 150.00 and up.

http://fairchildind.thomasnet-naviga...042|1085|1139y

Can be had from here.

http://www.fastbodyparts.com/buy/?N=...evrolet&md=S10

Soffseal also has parts and carry upper end products.

www.soffseal.com
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i just purchased the set of channel seals and the lower felts for usa1 and they are a perfect fit. good quality parts and 5 star service
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Has anyone bought these on Ebay, are the the cheap over sea made junk? I contacted the company that is selling these on Ebay and the person was new and didn't know anything about the product just that is was available . The dealer wants nearly $200.00 a peice for these and if the aftermarket is making a good part that fits good I'm interested. Looks like you will need to transfer you metal slides from your old strips, and would hope the holes are pre-cut for the mounting of the metal guide strips, please someone post something on this, thanks, AL.
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I did find this from Fairchild Ind. I believe kits are 150.00 and up.

http://fairchildind.thomasnet-naviga...042|1085|1139y

Can be had from here.

http://www.fastbodyparts.com/buy/?N=...evrolet&md=S10

Soffseal also has parts and carry upper end products.

www.soffseal.com
The soft seal link for the 1st gen S 10 is http://www.soffseal.com/store/main.a...tail&item=9624 and has no pre-cut holes for the metal channels and cost $117.00 a pair, AL.
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i just purchased the set of channel seals and the lower felts for usa1 and they are a perfect fit. good quality parts and 5 star service
Is this what you bought? http://www.usa1industries.com/produc...8&cat=0&page=1 , AL.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/82-94-S-10-B...item3f0dcfe6b0

I bought these back in the fall and put them in my 89 not exactly perfect, but they do the job just fine. And it wasn't really that hard to do just time consuming.
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I bought these back in the fall and put them in my 89 not exactly perfect, but they do the job just fine. And it wasn't really that hard to do just time consuming.
I made many phone calls and most of these are imported. Soft Seal is out of stock, dealer wants $194.00, USA 1 is imprted, and one other one posted here doesn't sell to the public. What was wrong with the fit? AL.
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I made many phone calls and most of these are imported. Soft Seal is out of stock, dealer wants $194.00, USA 1 is imprted, and one other one posted here doesn't sell to the public. What was wrong with the fit? AL.
Where the stainless steel piece goes on the inside the hole didn't line up exactly right. I just moved it a little, test fit to get it right then punched the little points through and bent them over.
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Where the stainless steel piece goes on the inside the hole didn't line up exactly right. I just moved it a little, test fit to get it right then punched the little points through and bent them over.
If you get time post a picture of the installed part. I saw a few pictures on line and didn't look like the original at all. It's hard to believe one of the most popular trucks out there and NO ONE make a first class part other the a $200.00 per side run channel at the dealer? The Parts Place, I would have thought would offer (we don't make anything here in America any more) a nice first class part but after hearing about your install I may need to get screwed at the dealer, AL.
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It actually looks good, but I'll get some pics tomorrow.
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It actually looks good, but I'll get some pics tomorrow.
Thanks, I'll look for it. The one other thing is how well the top corner fit and how well the strip sat in the track, AL.
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Top corner was good, possibly could have been better if I took more time.
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Just in case anyone else needs them, I finally got mine from Steele, after a few months of "Back order madness". They are not cheap ($135.00 pair) but look like good quality. Haven't installed them yet, too damn cold to roll down windows anyway, but expect to soon.
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I'm in the process of getting a complete 6pc from Faichild Industries. It's hadr for me to buy thing because I'm a information nut and check into everything I buy, like feedback from buyers, prices, follow up, and quility of item. Soft Seal, and Steel Products have a good follow up and look out for there buyers and Fairchild Indutries is looking to be a good pick as well, I will report back, AL.
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I guess you don't need pics now
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I don't have anything yet and on the fence on sellers. Still interested in how yours turned out. I have other things going on with this truck like door pins and bushing, and the heated core, fun stuff, AL.
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By the way, if anyone is interested, there is a classic how to on doing the core
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Drivers side corner


Drivers side bottom


Drivers side front and top
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Excellent posting! This is very helpful in understanding what is needed to do the replacement with no surprizes! AL.
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Drivers side front and top
The channel strip looks pretty good! How well does the window travel? Did you replace both inside plastic slides? AL.
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No problems with the window travel, I reused the slides.
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A few years back, I was able to get the outer window scraper that's at the bottom
at a local GM dealer close to town. It wasn't cheap. I think it was either 40 or
60 as this dealer charges list. But it's still on and works great. Doesn't help much,
but it was avail back then. I don't know if it still is or not. This dealer is still showing parts
though.

http://www.gmpartscounter.com/partlo...layCatalogid=0

Boy, those window channels sure aren't cheap for OEM. Yikes. The inner and outer scrapers aren't
too bad though.

GM parts direct is showing parts as well. And is a bit cheaper for the channels, but not by much.

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...layCatalogid=0

So I would assume that the ones from GMPartsDirect and GM PartsCounter would be OEM and come with the stainless channel inserts??????
Anyone?

I have ones from RockAuto and they do not have the inserts and they are a PITA to swap over the inserts from the OEM ones... If the 2 listed above have the inserts, the extra $$$ is worth it ot me...

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If you are referring to the scrapers, it had the clips that push into the
door skins as they were Delco parts. I didn't buy the rubber window channels
for the doors. I replaced part 6 above.
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i got mine off ebay from 1AAuto for $110 and that came with both sides, inside and outside squegees, and channel runs. i was TOTALLY impressed with the quality and fitment. the runs fit the door tight in the corners and along the strights. the squegees needed to be lightly modded but work very well.

as for my guides, as long as you support on side firmly and tight to the hole the pin side will pop right in. i goofed my first one but the rest were a cinch after that.

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If you are referring to the scrapers, it had the clips that push into the
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for the doors. I replaced part 6 above.
Sorry, I failed to mention the illustration number in my previous post. I was referring to the door glass runs, illustration number 2. I was just thinking if they were OEM that they WOULD come with the metal inserts in them. For that price, I would assume they would, atleast.

Mine were from Rock Auto and did NOT come with the metal peices. I have to remove the metal pieces from the old OEM and swap them to the new channels.

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This is what I found over at gm parts direct. Type in your make, model, yr
and go to body > door> then page 10. It will list window channel and click
"view illustration" view num 2 and you'll see the channel. The listing is
for 1 side. I don't know if the metal runner comes with the rubber or not.

http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/catalog/frameset.cfm

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15960867 - Window channel Left, MSRP
Online Price $263.12 $161.45

15960868 - Window channel Right, MSRP
Online Price $266.80 $163.71
It's also listing a "belt with w strip" but no pic, so I assume its
for the scrapers.

Here's more..Scroll down to 017.

http://parts.nalleygmc.com/showAssem...roduct=2811728

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I went with Fairchild Industries and can say it looks to be very well made and vrey close to factory standards! I'll report back on how well it fits, AL.
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^ I am looking forward to your review.
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http://www.1aauto.com/1A/Weatherstri...11/360560/1985
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Here we go! The Fairchild Industries weather strip run channel was very well made and fit very well. The one thing that was not correct was the bottom lower corner that should have met the door window seal, was a 1/4" short (this is the 5/16" flap that borders the very outside edge and is
cosmetic). For anyone installing these run channel, relax first and have a cup of coffee first, it is a PITA job but very do-able. I will make another post on some tips that will help greatly via my experience, AL.
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^ Great. Looking forward to your tips, etc on the replacement.
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After removing the door glass and the old run channels, have the new run channels inside the house and warm. On cutting the holes in the rubber for the metal tracks I used a utility knife. With lining up the large square mounting hole up mark your run channel with a pen (make sure all your sharp mounting tabs are straight and the large square mounting hole is lined up) install the metal tracks and holding the area around the rubber around the tab at the same time bend the tabs over the same direction as before this make sure the metal channel is completly flat against the rubber run channel. I put a lilttle Armorall on the outsite of the run channel (helps the rubber slide). Insert both ends of the channel in the door (not pushed into track yet) then push the 90 degree corner in as a starter, leaving the remaining channel unattached. Make sure your mounting screw hole lines up at the top rear edge of the door, if okay finish installing the rear of the door frame. A tip on the installation of the rubber to keep the outside trim edge apart as working it around the door fram (careful not to cut the rubber moulding at the door frame. At this point the rubber moulding should not be attached on the front part of the door frame. Next set your forward run channel so the mounting screw holes line up and start at the bottom and work your way around to the rear corner of the door frame, hope this helps, AL.
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After removing the door glass and the old run channels, remove three screw retaining the plastic mirror cover (not needed to completly remove). Have the new run channels inside the house and warm. On cutting the holes in the rubber for the metal tracks I used a utility knife. With lining up the large square mounting hole up mark your run channel with a pen (make sure all your sharp mounting tabs are straight and the large square mounting hole is lined up) install the metal tracks and holding the area around the rubber around the tab at the same time bend the tabs over the same direction as before this make sure the metal channel is completly flat against the rubber run channel. I put a lilttle Armorall on the outsite of the run channel (helps the rubber slide). Insert both ends of the channel in the door frame (not pushed into track yet) then push the 90 degree corner in as a starter, leaving the remaining channel unattached. Make sure your mounting screw hole lines up at the top rear edge of the door, if okay finish installing the rear of the door frame. A tip on the installation of the rubber to keep the outside trim edge apart as working it around the door frame (careful not to cut the rubber moulding at the door frame. At this point the rubber moulding should not be attached on the front part of the door frame. Next set your forward run channel so the mounting screw holes line up and start at the bottom and work your way around to the rear corner of the door frame, hope this helps, AL.
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