Project: 1995 s10 SAS

Baggey22 · 03-04-2008, 10:09 PM

Wow you all got busy today. I appreciate everyone's concern for my safety in rolling the truck over. I do plan on putting slightly longer shackles on it to get a better angle, I just had the stock ones so I just used them to save a little money for the time being. I'm thinking like 1-1.5" over stock, anyone have suggestions?
And yes tfpets there IS a bushing in the shackle hangers. Those are shackle mounts from SKY.

Tim99Zr2 · 03-04-2008, 10:11 PM

will a longer shackle help your problem out? i didnt think it would. but then again i dont know anything

***Donahue*** · 03-04-2008, 10:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2

will a longer shackle help your problem out? i didnt think it would. but then again i dont know anything

it will force the spring eye to go lower, making the shackle angle less severe.

***Donahue*** · 03-04-2008, 10:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

it will force the spring eye to go lower, making the shackle angle less severe.

i forgot to mention that with that spring, could use one of my shackles

Tim99Zr2 · 03-04-2008, 10:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

it will force the spring eye to go lower, making the shackle angle less severe.

eh i guess that makes sense.

soooo maybe i could find softer springs, and run a longer shackle... hmmmm

tfpets · 03-04-2008, 10:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22

And yes tfpets there IS a bushing in the shackle hangers. Those are shackle mounts from SKY.

Cool, I might have to look into those for my brothers...Not sure if he wants bushing in shackle or bushing in hanger but those are nice looking peices!

Baggey22 · 03-04-2008, 10:19 PM

You could use the extra ones I have Tim

And I once I figure out my length for shackles I may be hitting you up for shackles Donahue

Heres a picture of what they look like without bushings, they are amazing btw

***Donahue*** · 03-04-2008, 10:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by tfpets

Cool, I might have to look into those for my brothers...Not sure if he wants bushing in shackle or bushing in hanger but those are nice looking peices!

go with a bushing in hanger. its much easier to adjust the length of the shackle if needed.

tfpets · 03-04-2008, 10:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

i forgot to mention that with that spring, could use one of my shackles

Shameless plug!! LOL...but yeah thats a good idea!!

Tim99Zr2 · 03-04-2008, 10:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22

You could use the extra ones I have Tim

why do i want more s10 springs?

im thinkin yj or tk springs?

***Donahue*** · 03-04-2008, 10:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by tfpets

Shameless plug!! LOL...but yeah thats a good idea!!

Baggey22 · 03-05-2008, 09:19 AM

The deal may be sealed when I need them if I get promised some of the little rivet on logos. I could put one on my hood as a hood ornament like old Cadillacs used to do

lifted2wds10 · 03-05-2008, 10:28 AM

Those shackles would work, I put 3 inch drop shackles for a 1/2 ton chevy. they work great. i had the same extreme shackle angle you have and as soon as i put the longer ones on there, it corrected the problem.

lifted2wds10 · 03-05-2008, 10:52 AM

Here are the pics of my shock mounts like I promised. Like i said, I don't like them and need to change them. Now with that said, you can obviously tell where the shocks run into coil buckets. Hooray!!

and here are my shackles for you viewing pleasure. hope it helped. oh and excellent choice on front springs.

ChrisInVT · 03-05-2008, 11:43 AM

What's with the bungee cord?

Tim99Zr2 · 03-05-2008, 11:44 AM

looks like its keeping the slack out of his limit chain?

tfpets · 03-05-2008, 01:37 PM

Hey Baggey! Just wondering how long it took you to get the steering bracket from JB?? and lifted2wds10 you need to get in touch so we can go wheeling some time!! We could have a local crew of SAS s10s in town!! That would be a cool picture!!

Baggey22 · 03-05-2008, 02:10 PM

tfpets: It didn't take long. I think it was like 5 or 6 business days. The shipping was really good.
Lifted2wd: What did you do for a front drive shaft? I'll be needing one soon. Also how much longer over stock are your front shackles?

sapperb · 03-05-2008, 03:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Storm

nice ride, i have similar roll bars on my truck, i welded 2 extra light brackets on it

Curious!! Is that a roll bar or light bar???

Baggey22 · 03-05-2008, 06:48 PM

Mine is a light bar only, it's not attached to the frame at all

Baggey22 · 03-06-2008, 12:37 PM

So I know Tim did a PTO drive shaft for his swap, what did/are other people doing? I'm hoping to get this done by the end of the month so that when "mud season" starts I'll be ready.
Yes in Vermont we have mud season, it's amazing.

ChrisInVT · 03-06-2008, 12:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22

Yes in Vermont we have mud season, it's amazing.

Next month it should be here!!!

You need to wander out my way, the Connecticut river floods into all the local farm fields. Makes for some fun water fording and mud slinging fun!

When I first got my truck I went through a farm field so full of water that it was coming over the hood. I was surprised I didn't hydrolock the engine with the ghetto air filter and stock fan setup

Had to go through it to get to the mud - it was hella fun. My brother tried in his Cherokee and got stuck the day before when there was less water. He attempted to that day but it wouldn't make it far enough. That's when I decided it might actually be worth it to put some money into the truck.

sapperb · 03-06-2008, 01:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22

Mine is a light bar only, it's not attached to the frame at all

Yep, alot of people confuse those as roll bars.

lifted2wds10 · 03-06-2008, 08:54 PM

tfpets: yes we do where do you live? that would be sweet.

baggey:

My front shaft is basically a modified jeep front shaft. It has 1310 u joints like a jeep, but i had my driveshaft guy build it with .120" wall tubing and he put a full size bronco slip yoke in there. it extends out a little more than the jeep unit.

And my shackles are 6.5" long bolt center to bolt center. Like i said i used chevy lowering shackles and lopped the bottom set of holes off so they are not quite as long as they could have been. as far as how much longer, just measure the ones you have and note the difference.

Geoff03 · 03-06-2008, 10:40 PM

i run a stock s10 front shaft. fits in fine

Tim99Zr2 · 03-06-2008, 10:58 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Geoff03

i run a stock s10 front shaft. fits in fine

mine didnt have any slip in it. do first gen ones?

***Donahue*** · 03-06-2008, 11:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2

mine didnt have any slip in it. do first gen ones?

yes, all the ones with a fixed yoke like in the picture above.

Tim99Zr2 · 03-06-2008, 11:20 PM

lucky you. mines gay

***Donahue*** · 03-06-2008, 11:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2

lucky you. mines gay

i know, its double ghey with the push button crap

Baggey22 · 03-06-2008, 11:45 PM

I had the same drive shaft you do Tim. How did you get it out of the T case? Mine wouldn't come out easily so we just cut it and said "F it I'll do it later"

Tim99Zr2 · 03-07-2008, 08:16 AM

smack it with a hammer, it has a retaining clip in it. it will eventually come off. i then threw the clip away

Geoff03 · 03-07-2008, 08:18 AM

we used a big screwdriver as a pry bar to get it off my friends truck

03-04-2008, 10:09 PM	#101
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,541 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Wow you all got busy today. I appreciate everyone's concern for my safety in rolling the truck over. I do plan on putting slightly longer shackles on it to get a better angle, I just had the stock ones so I just used them to save a little money for the time being. I'm thinking like 1-1.5" over stock, anyone have suggestions? And yes tfpets there IS a bushing in the shackle hangers. Those are shackle mounts from SKY.
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03-04-2008, 10:11 PM	#102
Tim99Zr2 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,331 Location: Reynoldsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS will a longer shackle help your problem out? i didnt think it would. but then again i dont know anything
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03-04-2008, 10:13 PM	#103
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,025 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2 will a longer shackle help your problem out? i didnt think it would. but then again i dont know anything it will force the spring eye to go lower, making the shackle angle less severe.
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03-04-2008, 10:14 PM	#104
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,025 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue it will force the spring eye to go lower, making the shackle angle less severe. i forgot to mention that with that spring, could use one of my shackles
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03-04-2008, 10:15 PM	#105
Tim99Zr2 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,331 Location: Reynoldsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue it will force the spring eye to go lower, making the shackle angle less severe. eh i guess that makes sense. soooo maybe i could find softer springs, and run a longer shackle... hmmmm
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03-04-2008, 10:18 PM	#106
tfpets 2UP1DOWN Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 510 Location: Northern California User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22 And yes tfpets there IS a bushing in the shackle hangers. Those are shackle mounts from SKY. Cool, I might have to look into those for my brothers...Not sure if he wants bushing in shackle or bushing in hanger but those are nice looking peices!
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03-04-2008, 10:19 PM	#107
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,541 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS You could use the extra ones I have Tim And I once I figure out my length for shackles I may be hitting you up for shackles Donahue Heres a picture of what they look like without bushings, they are amazing btw Last edited by Baggey22 : 03-04-2008 at 10:20 PM.
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03-04-2008, 10:19 PM	#108
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,025 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by tfpets Cool, I might have to look into those for my brothers...Not sure if he wants bushing in shackle or bushing in hanger but those are nice looking peices! go with a bushing in hanger. its much easier to adjust the length of the shackle if needed.
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03-04-2008, 10:19 PM	#109
tfpets 2UP1DOWN Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 510 Location: Northern California User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue i forgot to mention that with that spring, could use one of my shackles Shameless plug!! LOL...but yeah thats a good idea!!
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03-04-2008, 10:21 PM	#110
Tim99Zr2 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,331 Location: Reynoldsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22 You could use the extra ones I have Tim why do i want more s10 springs? im thinkin yj or tk springs?
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03-04-2008, 10:24 PM	#111
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,025 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by tfpets Shameless plug!! LOL...but yeah thats a good idea!!
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03-05-2008, 09:19 AM	#112
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,541 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS The deal may be sealed when I need them if I get promised some of the little rivet on logos. I could put one on my hood as a hood ornament like old Cadillacs used to do
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03-05-2008, 10:28 AM	#113
lifted2wds10 RRAARR!!!! Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 222 Location: Chico, CA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Those shackles would work, I put 3 inch drop shackles for a 1/2 ton chevy. they work great. i had the same extreme shackle angle you have and as soon as i put the longer ones on there, it corrected the problem.
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03-05-2008, 10:52 AM	#114
lifted2wds10 RRAARR!!!! Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 222 Location: Chico, CA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Here are the pics of my shock mounts like I promised. Like i said, I don't like them and need to change them. Now with that said, you can obviously tell where the shocks run into coil buckets. Hooray!! and here are my shackles for you viewing pleasure. hope it helped. oh and excellent choice on front springs.
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03-05-2008, 11:43 AM	#115
ChrisInVT Got lights? Age: 24 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,763 Location: The Woods, VT User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS What's with the bungee cord?
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03-05-2008, 11:44 AM	#116
Tim99Zr2 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,331 Location: Reynoldsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS looks like its keeping the slack out of his limit chain?
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03-05-2008, 01:37 PM	#117
tfpets 2UP1DOWN Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 510 Location: Northern California User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Hey Baggey! Just wondering how long it took you to get the steering bracket from JB?? and lifted2wds10 you need to get in touch so we can go wheeling some time!! We could have a local crew of SAS s10s in town!! That would be a cool picture!!
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03-05-2008, 02:10 PM	#118
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,541 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS tfpets: It didn't take long. I think it was like 5 or 6 business days. The shipping was really good. Lifted2wd: What did you do for a front drive shaft? I'll be needing one soon. Also how much longer over stock are your front shackles? Last edited by Baggey22 : 03-05-2008 at 02:30 PM.
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03-05-2008, 03:15 PM	#119
sapperb Prerunner Madness Age: 47 Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 222 Location: Cali, High Dezert User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Storm nice ride, i have similar roll bars on my truck, i welded 2 extra light brackets on it Curious!! Is that a roll bar or light bar???
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03-05-2008, 06:48 PM	#120
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,541 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Mine is a light bar only, it's not attached to the frame at all
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03-06-2008, 12:37 PM	#121
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,541 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS So I know Tim did a PTO drive shaft for his swap, what did/are other people doing? I'm hoping to get this done by the end of the month so that when "mud season" starts I'll be ready. Yes in Vermont we have mud season, it's amazing.
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03-06-2008, 12:49 PM	#122
ChrisInVT Got lights? Age: 24 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,763 Location: The Woods, VT User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22 Yes in Vermont we have mud season, it's amazing. Next month it should be here!!! You need to wander out my way, the Connecticut river floods into all the local farm fields. Makes for some fun water fording and mud slinging fun! When I first got my truck I went through a farm field so full of water that it was coming over the hood. I was surprised I didn't hydrolock the engine with the ghetto air filter and stock fan setup Had to go through it to get to the mud - it was hella fun. My brother tried in his Cherokee and got stuck the day before when there was less water. He attempted to that day but it wouldn't make it far enough. That's when I decided it might actually be worth it to put some money into the truck. Last edited by ChrisInVT : 03-06-2008 at 12:51 PM.
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03-06-2008, 01:00 PM	#123
sapperb Prerunner Madness Age: 47 Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 222 Location: Cali, High Dezert User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22 Mine is a light bar only, it's not attached to the frame at all Yep, alot of people confuse those as roll bars.
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03-06-2008, 08:54 PM	#124
lifted2wds10 RRAARR!!!! Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 222 Location: Chico, CA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS tfpets: yes we do where do you live? that would be sweet. baggey: My front shaft is basically a modified jeep front shaft. It has 1310 u joints like a jeep, but i had my driveshaft guy build it with .120" wall tubing and he put a full size bronco slip yoke in there. it extends out a little more than the jeep unit. And my shackles are 6.5" long bolt center to bolt center. Like i said i used chevy lowering shackles and lopped the bottom set of holes off so they are not quite as long as they could have been. as far as how much longer, just measure the ones you have and note the difference.
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03-06-2008, 10:40 PM	#125
Geoff03 got SFA? Age: 23 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 885 Location: St. Louis User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS i run a stock s10 front shaft. fits in fine
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03-06-2008, 10:58 PM	#126
Tim99Zr2 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,331 Location: Reynoldsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Geoff03 i run a stock s10 front shaft. fits in fine mine didnt have any slip in it. do first gen ones?
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03-06-2008, 11:13 PM	#127
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,025 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2 mine didnt have any slip in it. do first gen ones? yes, all the ones with a fixed yoke like in the picture above.
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03-06-2008, 11:20 PM	#128
Tim99Zr2 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,331 Location: Reynoldsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS lucky you. mines gay
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03-06-2008, 11:45 PM	#129
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,025 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2 lucky you. mines gay i know, its double ghey with the push button crap
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03-06-2008, 11:45 PM	#130
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,541 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS I had the same drive shaft you do Tim. How did you get it out of the T case? Mine wouldn't come out easily so we just cut it and said "F it I'll do it later"
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03-07-2008, 08:16 AM	#131
Tim99Zr2 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,331 Location: Reynoldsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS smack it with a hammer, it has a retaining clip in it. it will eventually come off. i then threw the clip away
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03-07-2008, 08:18 AM	#132
Geoff03 got SFA? Age: 23 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 885 Location: St. Louis User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS we used a big screwdriver as a pry bar to get it off my friends truck
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