Project: 1995 s10 SAS

Baggey22 · 08-20-2008, 05:49 PM

So my next step is getting my shocks mounted. I know Tim has his hoop things but what did others do? Also how'd you mount them TO the axle. I was thinking F250 towers but the dealer near me can't get them for some dumb ass reason. And the only place online I've been able to find them is at Parts Mike for like $17 each BEFORE shipping.
Anyone know where to get them cheaper?
Pictures would be good of mounting. Thanks

Tim99Zr2 · 08-20-2008, 06:11 PM

i used the stock shock tabs. on the axle.

hit up summit.?

Baggey22 · 08-20-2008, 06:35 PM

I cut the stock D30 tabs off when I was stripping the axle. I didn't like how low they hung.

Tim99Zr2 · 08-20-2008, 09:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22

I cut the stock D30 tabs off when I was stripping the axle. I didn't like how low they hung.

true, but so far that hasnt been an issuse for me. only time will tell.

Baggey22 · 08-20-2008, 10:08 PM

I ordered F250 shock towers off of a Ford Dealership web site for $11 a piece. They should be here either the beginning or middle of next week.

ChrisInVT · 08-21-2008, 10:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22

So my next step is getting my shocks mounted.

Your next step should be getting your damn 4WD to work, you can wheel without shocks

wrekd · 08-22-2008, 12:47 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisInVT

Your next step should be getting your damn 4WD to work, you can wheel without shocks

You can but its not good, especially if the truck starts axle wrapping or kicking out big boulders causing it to bounce. I just had it happen to me last week and it costed me a rear driveshaft.I have shocks on the back but there both blown out.

I was going up a loose hill(in 2 wheel drive like an idiot..lol) it started kicking out rocks axle wrapping and bouncing up and down very hard, and then I heard a a couple big Bangs. It sounded like I blew the ring and pinion at first cause i heard a couple of bangs, but the driveshaft mustve hit the floor a few times before it fell out of the slip yoke. My buddy jumped out and told me my driveshaft twisted in 2. Ive gone up this hill in 2wd a couple of times, but thats when my shocks were good. So yeah, shocks really do help out when it comes to that stuff.

Baggey22 · 08-22-2008, 07:06 AM

Getting 4wd is pretty easy. The drive shaft is all made up. All I have to do is get the transfer case yoke changed. If I get my shocks on I can take it to a mechanic and be like "hey take this off real quick" or find someone close with air tools.

ChrisInVT · 08-22-2008, 10:05 AM

Hey, I brought my air compressor and impact gun last time I was there

zhillz · 08-22-2008, 10:51 AM

How do you know what shocks to buy i still need to order some do they come in different lengths in incriments

Baggey22 · 08-22-2008, 09:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisInVT

Hey, I brought my air compressor and impact gun last time I was there

I know you did, you also came late at night so using tools that are loud wasn't a good idea. I'm gonna borrow my buddy's 19.2 Volt electric one. Maybe it'll work, if not once I get shocks on it I'll just bring it somewhere and ask to have them take it off real quick

Quote: Originally Posted by zhillz

How do you know what shocks to buy i still need to order some do they come in different lengths in incriments

Once the truck is on it's own feet you flex it out and see what your biggest compressed/extended measurements are. Then you find something that will work.

***Donahue*** · 08-23-2008, 01:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22

I know you did, you also came late at night so using tools that are loud wasn't a good idea. I'm gonna borrow my buddy's 19.2 Volt electric one. Maybe it'll work, if not once I get shocks on it I'll just bring it somewhere and ask to have them take it off real quick

Once the truck is on it's own feet you flex it out and see what your biggest compressed/extended measurements are. Then you find something that will work.

or you could do like i did and just get the longest shock you can find. then when you flex it out you can figure out how to mount it to make the travel work for you. FYI, i am running 13.5" travel Doetsch Tech 8000 series shocks and i am happy with them. they are fairly inexpensive too, $44.40 each right from doetsch http://www.shocksandsuspension.com/p...sp?item=3&dc=1

ChrisInVT · 08-23-2008, 02:54 PM

0o0o0o0o those are nice

Baggey22 · 08-24-2008, 02:52 AM

You know what else is nice? The BRAND NEW locker I just won on eBay! I got it for $193.33 shipped. It's a Detroit EZ Locker. I can't wait to put it in, so I'll have front Detroit and rear Trac-Lock.
I'm excited.

ChrisInVT · 08-24-2008, 10:25 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22

You know what else is nice?

You getting me my 8.8?

Baggey22 · 08-24-2008, 11:04 AM

My classes start up this week. If I don't have any plans this Friday I'm sure I can make a run out to Colchester and get one.
BTW if people can't figure it out from my post the locker is for the Dana 30.

ChrisInVT · 08-24-2008, 11:07 AM

Sweet

Baggey22 · 08-24-2008, 08:06 PM

So has anyone installed a Detriot EZ locker? Is it as EZ as the name sounds? I know it'll come with instructions but I just want to know if there's any weird problems that may come up while doing the install. Also don't forget my Dana 30 is from an 88 YJ so it has the auto disconnect.

***Donahue*** · 08-24-2008, 09:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22

So has anyone installed a Detriot EZ locker? Is it as EZ as the name sounds? I know it'll come with instructions but I just want to know if there's any weird problems that may come up while doing the install. Also don't forget my Dana 30 is from an 88 YJ so it has the auto disconnect.

its basically the same as a lockright.

Baggey22 · 08-31-2008, 08:23 PM

Update: Today some good progress was made. I had a buddy of mine come over and weld my perches on for me. He took almost two hours doing it and assured me that the welds would last longer than he would live. I also changed my front output yoke on the transfer case. So all that is left to do is wait for my shock mounts to come in then weld them on. THen it's TEST TIME! So here's hoping they come in SOON, I ordered them a few days ago.
Of course I'll have pictures a.s.a.p when the shocks are done.

ChrisInVT · 08-31-2008, 10:04 PM

2 hours to weld the perches? What was he using, a soldering gun?

zhillz · 08-31-2008, 10:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisInVT

2 hours to weld the perches? What was he using, a soldering gun?

im going to take that long because im measuring 342434134 times im scared im going to mess something up lol.

DieselS10 · 08-31-2008, 11:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by zhillz

im going to take that long because im measuring 342434134 times im scared im going to mess something up lol.

Nothin wrong with being thorough!

Baggey22 · 08-31-2008, 11:11 PM

It took that long for 2 reasons.
One: He's like 61 and kept saying he's "fat" so moving around was difficult
Two: for most of it the axle was under the truck, just not bolted in so that we could tack it to keep the caster angle correct.

I don't really care that it took a long time. It's DONE and that's all that matters to me. Now I'm just waiting on parts.

bubbagt57 · 09-01-2008, 10:28 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22

It took that long for 2 reasons.
One: He's like 61 and kept saying he's "fat" so moving around was difficult

Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22

and assured me that the welds would last longer than he would live.

hmm..... chris keep the welder handy

jk

ChrisInVT · 09-01-2008, 11:00 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by bubbagt57

hmm..... chris keep the welder handy

DUDE that's mean, very uncool.

Although I did LOL so hard it hurt

bubbagt57 · 09-01-2008, 11:02 AM

lol i wish the man a long wonderful life

Baggey22 · 09-01-2008, 11:08 AM

I do too. The story behind him is he's a guy that works at Bond Auto (a local auto parts store) Every time I go in there he makes some crack about how I'm causing trouble or "they gave me a day pass out of prison." So one day I brought in my square tube drive shaft to get the Ujoint replaced. I brought it in as a reference to make sure I got the right one. He looked at the welds my buddy Zach did and said how they sucked, and if I ever needed anything done better to let him know. So on Friday I went in and took him up on his offer and he said he'd come do it Sunday. So he did, and I'm very grateful he took his time out to come help me.
I will say though, I've never herd someone swear at a Dana 30 more than him in such a short amount of time. It was comical.

ChrisInVT · 09-01-2008, 11:10 AM

Ohhhh it was THAT guy?!?!

Man, I wish I was a fly on your truck; I'd love to hear some of the shit he was saying.

bubbagt57 · 09-01-2008, 11:13 AM

im taking he is quite a character?

Baggey22 · 09-01-2008, 11:14 AM

Yea, do you know Butch? That's who came here. He left me his electric impact gun so I could get my Tcase yoke done. It worked great! Now I have to return it. . . . .

ChrisInVT · 09-01-2008, 12:13 PM

On your way back home, get me an 8.8

08-20-2008, 05:49 PM	#751
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,080 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS So my next step is getting my shocks mounted. I know Tim has his hoop things but what did others do? Also how'd you mount them TO the axle. I was thinking F250 towers but the dealer near me can't get them for some dumb ass reason. And the only place online I've been able to find them is at Parts Mike for like $17 each BEFORE shipping. Anyone know where to get them cheaper? Pictures would be good of mounting. Thanks
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08-20-2008, 06:11 PM	#752
Tim99Zr2 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,161 Location: Reynoldsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS i used the stock shock tabs. on the axle. hit up summit.?
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08-20-2008, 06:35 PM	#753
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,080 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS I cut the stock D30 tabs off when I was stripping the axle. I didn't like how low they hung.
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08-20-2008, 09:54 PM	#754
Tim99Zr2 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,161 Location: Reynoldsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22 I cut the stock D30 tabs off when I was stripping the axle. I didn't like how low they hung. true, but so far that hasnt been an issuse for me. only time will tell.
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08-20-2008, 10:08 PM	#755
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,080 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS I ordered F250 shock towers off of a Ford Dealership web site for $11 a piece. They should be here either the beginning or middle of next week.
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08-21-2008, 10:27 PM	#756
ChrisInVT I Rather Be Wheelin' Age: 25 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,461 Location: The Woods, VT User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22 So my next step is getting my shocks mounted. Your next step should be getting your damn 4WD to work, you can wheel without shocks
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08-22-2008, 12:47 AM	#757
wrekd Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 985 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisInVT Your next step should be getting your damn 4WD to work, you can wheel without shocks You can but its not good, especially if the truck starts axle wrapping or kicking out big boulders causing it to bounce. I just had it happen to me last week and it costed me a rear driveshaft.I have shocks on the back but there both blown out. I was going up a loose hill(in 2 wheel drive like an idiot..lol) it started kicking out rocks axle wrapping and bouncing up and down very hard, and then I heard a a couple big Bangs. It sounded like I blew the ring and pinion at first cause i heard a couple of bangs, but the driveshaft mustve hit the floor a few times before it fell out of the slip yoke. My buddy jumped out and told me my driveshaft twisted in 2. Ive gone up this hill in 2wd a couple of times, but thats when my shocks were good. So yeah, shocks really do help out when it comes to that stuff.
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08-22-2008, 07:06 AM	#758
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,080 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Getting 4wd is pretty easy. The drive shaft is all made up. All I have to do is get the transfer case yoke changed. If I get my shocks on I can take it to a mechanic and be like "hey take this off real quick" or find someone close with air tools.
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08-22-2008, 10:05 AM	#759
ChrisInVT I Rather Be Wheelin' Age: 25 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,461 Location: The Woods, VT User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Hey, I brought my air compressor and impact gun last time I was there
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08-22-2008, 10:51 AM	#760
zhillz SAS inprogress Age: 19 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 298 Location: Florida User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS How do you know what shocks to buy i still need to order some do they come in different lengths in incriments
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08-22-2008, 09:48 PM	#761
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,080 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisInVT Hey, I brought my air compressor and impact gun last time I was there I know you did, you also came late at night so using tools that are loud wasn't a good idea. I'm gonna borrow my buddy's 19.2 Volt electric one. Maybe it'll work, if not once I get shocks on it I'll just bring it somewhere and ask to have them take it off real quick Quote: Originally Posted by zhillz How do you know what shocks to buy i still need to order some do they come in different lengths in incriments Once the truck is on it's own feet you flex it out and see what your biggest compressed/extended measurements are. Then you find something that will work.
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08-23-2008, 01:35 PM	#762
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,581 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22 I know you did, you also came late at night so using tools that are loud wasn't a good idea. I'm gonna borrow my buddy's 19.2 Volt electric one. Maybe it'll work, if not once I get shocks on it I'll just bring it somewhere and ask to have them take it off real quick Once the truck is on it's own feet you flex it out and see what your biggest compressed/extended measurements are. Then you find something that will work. or you could do like i did and just get the longest shock you can find. then when you flex it out you can figure out how to mount it to make the travel work for you. FYI, i am running 13.5" travel Doetsch Tech 8000 series shocks and i am happy with them. they are fairly inexpensive too, $44.40 each right from doetsch http://www.shocksandsuspension.com/p...sp?item=3&dc=1
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08-23-2008, 02:54 PM	#763
ChrisInVT I Rather Be Wheelin' Age: 25 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,461 Location: The Woods, VT User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS 0o0o0o0o those are nice
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08-24-2008, 02:52 AM	#764
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,080 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS You know what else is nice? The BRAND NEW locker I just won on eBay! I got it for $193.33 shipped. It's a Detroit EZ Locker. I can't wait to put it in, so I'll have front Detroit and rear Trac-Lock. I'm excited.
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08-24-2008, 10:25 AM	#765
ChrisInVT I Rather Be Wheelin' Age: 25 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,461 Location: The Woods, VT User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22 You know what else is nice? You getting me my 8.8?
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08-24-2008, 11:04 AM	#766
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,080 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS My classes start up this week. If I don't have any plans this Friday I'm sure I can make a run out to Colchester and get one. BTW if people can't figure it out from my post the locker is for the Dana 30.
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08-24-2008, 11:07 AM	#767
ChrisInVT I Rather Be Wheelin' Age: 25 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,461 Location: The Woods, VT User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Sweet
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08-24-2008, 08:06 PM	#768
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,080 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS So has anyone installed a Detriot EZ locker? Is it as EZ as the name sounds? I know it'll come with instructions but I just want to know if there's any weird problems that may come up while doing the install. Also don't forget my Dana 30 is from an 88 YJ so it has the auto disconnect.
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08-24-2008, 09:08 PM	#769
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,581 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22 So has anyone installed a Detriot EZ locker? Is it as EZ as the name sounds? I know it'll come with instructions but I just want to know if there's any weird problems that may come up while doing the install. Also don't forget my Dana 30 is from an 88 YJ so it has the auto disconnect. its basically the same as a lockright.
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08-31-2008, 08:23 PM	#770
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,080 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Update: Today some good progress was made. I had a buddy of mine come over and weld my perches on for me. He took almost two hours doing it and assured me that the welds would last longer than he would live. I also changed my front output yoke on the transfer case. So all that is left to do is wait for my shock mounts to come in then weld them on. THen it's TEST TIME! So here's hoping they come in SOON, I ordered them a few days ago. Of course I'll have pictures a.s.a.p when the shocks are done.
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08-31-2008, 10:04 PM	#771
ChrisInVT I Rather Be Wheelin' Age: 25 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,461 Location: The Woods, VT User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS 2 hours to weld the perches? What was he using, a soldering gun?
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08-31-2008, 10:08 PM	#772
zhillz SAS inprogress Age: 19 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 298 Location: Florida User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisInVT 2 hours to weld the perches? What was he using, a soldering gun? im going to take that long because im measuring 342434134 times im scared im going to mess something up lol.
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08-31-2008, 11:10 PM	#773
DieselS10 Slightly Over Built Age: 34 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,243 Location: Chelsea, OK User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by zhillz im going to take that long because im measuring 342434134 times im scared im going to mess something up lol. Nothin wrong with being thorough!
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08-31-2008, 11:11 PM	#774
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,080 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS It took that long for 2 reasons. One: He's like 61 and kept saying he's "fat" so moving around was difficult Two: for most of it the axle was under the truck, just not bolted in so that we could tack it to keep the caster angle correct. I don't really care that it took a long time. It's DONE and that's all that matters to me. Now I'm just waiting on parts.
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09-01-2008, 10:28 AM	#775
bubbagt57 Support 4WD Factory Age: 18 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 516 Location: burtonsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22 It took that long for 2 reasons. One: He's like 61 and kept saying he's "fat" so moving around was difficult Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22 and assured me that the welds would last longer than he would live. hmm..... chris keep the welder handy jk
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09-01-2008, 11:00 AM	#776
ChrisInVT I Rather Be Wheelin' Age: 25 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,461 Location: The Woods, VT User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by bubbagt57 hmm..... chris keep the welder handy DUDE that's mean, very uncool. Although I did LOL so hard it hurt
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09-01-2008, 11:02 AM	#777
bubbagt57 Support 4WD Factory Age: 18 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 516 Location: burtonsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS lol i wish the man a long wonderful life
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09-01-2008, 11:08 AM	#778
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,080 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS I do too. The story behind him is he's a guy that works at Bond Auto (a local auto parts store) Every time I go in there he makes some crack about how I'm causing trouble or "they gave me a day pass out of prison." So one day I brought in my square tube drive shaft to get the Ujoint replaced. I brought it in as a reference to make sure I got the right one. He looked at the welds my buddy Zach did and said how they sucked, and if I ever needed anything done better to let him know. So on Friday I went in and took him up on his offer and he said he'd come do it Sunday. So he did, and I'm very grateful he took his time out to come help me. I will say though, I've never herd someone swear at a Dana 30 more than him in such a short amount of time. It was comical.
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09-01-2008, 11:10 AM	#779
ChrisInVT I Rather Be Wheelin' Age: 25 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,461 Location: The Woods, VT User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Ohhhh it was THAT guy?!?! Man, I wish I was a fly on your truck; I'd love to hear some of the shit he was saying.
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09-01-2008, 11:13 AM	#780
bubbagt57 Support 4WD Factory Age: 18 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 516 Location: burtonsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS im taking he is quite a character?
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09-01-2008, 11:14 AM	#781
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,080 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Yea, do you know Butch? That's who came here. He left me his electric impact gun so I could get my Tcase yoke done. It worked great! Now I have to return it. . . . .
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09-01-2008, 12:13 PM	#782
ChrisInVT I Rather Be Wheelin' Age: 25 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,461 Location: The Woods, VT User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS On your way back home, get me an 8.8