Project: 1995 s10 SAS

Tim99Zr2 · 08-02-2008, 01:09 PM

hell yea! looks good. im going to work on mine soon!

crazy91s10 · 08-02-2008, 02:10 PM

holy shit... bout damn time. how long have we waited for these pics???!!! looks great man! those 34s look small on there... wish i could see that truck in person!

wrekd · 08-02-2008, 02:53 PM

Looks good Baggey. Now wheres the flex pics

ChrisInVT · 08-02-2008, 03:13 PM

That tire on the RH side of the first picture is the same trad of the tires I'll be getting

And why is your truck leaning? is it just the picture?

***Donahue*** · 08-02-2008, 03:59 PM

now its time to take the BL out

Baggey22 · 08-02-2008, 04:03 PM

That is the same tread as what you'll be getting Chris.
Flex pix will be coming soon.
I was thinking about taking the BL off, we'll see though.
The lean is half the truck and half the driveway. It leans a little but it's not terrible.

4wdjoey · 08-02-2008, 04:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22

Here you go sluts, ENJOY!

I didn't get to drive the truck around much because the tranny is being retarded.

How much clearance do you have under the front shackles?

Baggey22 · 08-02-2008, 05:02 PM

I haven't actually measured how much clearance I have. They do hang kinda low. I plan to move the frame mount and put a smaller shackle on it soon.

ChrisInVT · 08-02-2008, 05:11 PM

Sweet!

And I 2nd the body lift removal motion.

Have you thought about putting the shackles on the front like Jeeps do? Those shackles do hang down very low.

Baggey22 · 08-02-2008, 05:18 PM

Putting the shackles on the front would require a lot of modification. Once I put the shorter shackles on it'll be better.

Geoff03 · 08-02-2008, 09:33 PM

paint your frame son

wrekd · 08-02-2008, 11:14 PM

Baggey, whats your spring perch width? Is there any way you can inboard the shackles instead of putting them right underneath the frame?

***Donahue*** · 08-02-2008, 11:25 PM

read this thread:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=652426

Tim99Zr2 · 08-02-2008, 11:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd

Baggey, whats your spring perch width? Is there any way you can inboard the shackles instead of putting them right underneath the frame?

he is prob 31" CTC of the springs. mine are inboard some?

***Donahue*** · 08-02-2008, 11:35 PM

some, but not enough to clear the drivers side frame rail, at least not on my truck. mine are at 31.5" and my pass side one could go higher, but my drivers side frame rail stick in farther about 2".

Tim99Zr2 · 08-02-2008, 11:37 PM

i dont think mine is the same frame.. are they donahue?? i forget.

wrekd · 08-02-2008, 11:41 PM

Wow. I didnt think the Dana 30 had that wide of a perch width. Mine is at 31.5" CTC and thats fullwidth. Mine are also inboarded with the shackle about 2 inches up in the frame

***Donahue*** · 08-02-2008, 11:47 PM

second and first gen frames are not the same, but they are similar. the z frame however may actually be symmetrical side to side unlike the regular 4x4's.

wreckd, did you have to modify the frame at all to mount them higher?

edit: also, YJ 30's have that perch width. CJ's do not, they are like 27". 70's ford, and chevy share the same width as well as scout and waggys, and dodge is just 1" wider at 32.5". 85-99 (or whenever the superduty took over) it was 36" or 36.5" and the superduties are a whopping 39" CTC.

wrekd · 08-02-2008, 11:58 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

read this thread:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=652426

Pretty cool idea, but I wouldnt run them.

wrekd · 08-03-2008, 12:03 AM

[quote=Donahue;5464310]\

wreckd, did you have to modify the frame at all to mount them higher?
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No. I had 1" of clearence on each side between the frame and shackle mount. I put the bolt in from the inside, toward the frame, pushed it in til i could get the nut on, and then just ground down the bolt until it cleared without hitting the frame.

Did that make sense?

***Donahue*** · 08-03-2008, 12:16 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

wreckd, did you have to modify the frame at all to mount them higher?

No. I had 1" of clearence on each side between the frame and shackle mount. I put the bolt in from the inside, toward the frame, pushed it in til i could get the nut on, and then just ground down the bolt until it cleared without hitting the frame.
Did that make sense?

did you inboard past 31.5"? or are your frame rails symmetrical?

wrekd · 08-03-2008, 12:23 AM

I know I didnt have to go past 31.5". But I'm not 100% sure theyre symmetrical. I think they are but I'll have to check tomorrow.

***Donahue*** · 08-03-2008, 12:26 AM

get pics too if you could, i would be interested.

Tim99Zr2 · 08-03-2008, 12:28 AM

yea, mine are symmetrical

wrekd · 08-03-2008, 12:29 AM

Yeah so are mine. i just went out and checked. Curiosity got the best of me

DieselS10 · 08-03-2008, 12:30 AM

Looks good baggey!

***Donahue*** · 08-03-2008, 12:31 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd

Yeah so are mine. i just went out and checked. Curiosity got the best of me

was yours a 2wd originally?

wrekd · 08-03-2008, 12:34 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

was yours a 2wd originally?

No it was a 4x4. I went and took a pic of it. So it'll be up in a few mins.

wrekd · 08-03-2008, 12:40 AM

Ok here it is. Its not a pretty mount, but it gets the job done

Tim99Zr2 · 08-03-2008, 12:43 AM

i dont see a tailgate....

wrekd · 08-03-2008, 12:45 AM

Tailgates are overrated

***Donahue*** · 08-03-2008, 01:07 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd

Ok here it is. Its not a pretty mount, but it gets the job done

that is not really any different than mine, how about the other side?

wrekd · 08-03-2008, 02:24 AM

Its exactly the same

08-02-2008, 01:09 PM	#601
Tim99Zr2 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,161 Location: Reynoldsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS hell yea! looks good. im going to work on mine soon!
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08-02-2008, 02:10 PM	#602
crazy91s10 Registered Asshole Age: 23 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,004 Location: Moscow, PA / Mansfield, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS holy shit... bout damn time. how long have we waited for these pics???!!! looks great man! those 34s look small on there... wish i could see that truck in person!
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08-02-2008, 02:53 PM	#603
wrekd Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 985 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Looks good Baggey. Now wheres the flex pics
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08-02-2008, 03:13 PM	#604
ChrisInVT I Rather Be Wheelin' Age: 25 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,461 Location: The Woods, VT User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS That tire on the RH side of the first picture is the same trad of the tires I'll be getting And why is your truck leaning? is it just the picture?
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08-02-2008, 03:59 PM	#605
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,581 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS now its time to take the BL out
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08-02-2008, 04:03 PM	#606
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,080 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS That is the same tread as what you'll be getting Chris. Flex pix will be coming soon. I was thinking about taking the BL off, we'll see though. The lean is half the truck and half the driveway. It leans a little but it's not terrible.
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08-02-2008, 04:10 PM	#607
4wdjoey Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 260 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22 Here you go sluts, ENJOY! I didn't get to drive the truck around much because the tranny is being retarded. How much clearance do you have under the front shackles?
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08-02-2008, 05:02 PM	#608
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,080 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS I haven't actually measured how much clearance I have. They do hang kinda low. I plan to move the frame mount and put a smaller shackle on it soon.
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08-02-2008, 05:11 PM	#609
ChrisInVT I Rather Be Wheelin' Age: 25 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,461 Location: The Woods, VT User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Sweet! And I 2nd the body lift removal motion. Have you thought about putting the shackles on the front like Jeeps do? Those shackles do hang down very low.
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08-02-2008, 05:18 PM	#610
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,080 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Putting the shackles on the front would require a lot of modification. Once I put the shorter shackles on it'll be better.
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08-02-2008, 09:33 PM	#611
Geoff03 got SFA? Age: 23 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,256 Location: St. Louis User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS paint your frame son
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08-02-2008, 11:14 PM	#612
wrekd Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 985 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Baggey, whats your spring perch width? Is there any way you can inboard the shackles instead of putting them right underneath the frame?
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08-02-2008, 11:25 PM	#613
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,581 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS read this thread: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=652426
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08-02-2008, 11:27 PM	#614
Tim99Zr2 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,161 Location: Reynoldsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd Baggey, whats your spring perch width? Is there any way you can inboard the shackles instead of putting them right underneath the frame? he is prob 31" CTC of the springs. mine are inboard some?
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08-02-2008, 11:35 PM	#615
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,581 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS some, but not enough to clear the drivers side frame rail, at least not on my truck. mine are at 31.5" and my pass side one could go higher, but my drivers side frame rail stick in farther about 2".
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08-02-2008, 11:37 PM	#616
Tim99Zr2 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,161 Location: Reynoldsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS i dont think mine is the same frame.. are they donahue?? i forget.
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08-02-2008, 11:41 PM	#617
wrekd Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 985 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Wow. I didnt think the Dana 30 had that wide of a perch width. Mine is at 31.5" CTC and thats fullwidth. Mine are also inboarded with the shackle about 2 inches up in the frame
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08-02-2008, 11:47 PM	#618
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,581 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS second and first gen frames are not the same, but they are similar. the z frame however may actually be symmetrical side to side unlike the regular 4x4's. wreckd, did you have to modify the frame at all to mount them higher? edit: also, YJ 30's have that perch width. CJ's do not, they are like 27". 70's ford, and chevy share the same width as well as scout and waggys, and dodge is just 1" wider at 32.5". 85-99 (or whenever the superduty took over) it was 36" or 36.5" and the superduties are a whopping 39" CTC. Last edited by Donahue : 08-02-2008 at 11:50 PM.
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08-02-2008, 11:58 PM	#619
wrekd Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 985 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue read this thread: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=652426 Pretty cool idea, but I wouldnt run them.
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08-03-2008, 12:03 AM	#620
wrekd Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 985 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS [quote=Donahue;5464310]\ wreckd, did you have to modify the frame at all to mount them higher? quote] No. I had 1" of clearence on each side between the frame and shackle mount. I put the bolt in from the inside, toward the frame, pushed it in til i could get the nut on, and then just ground down the bolt until it cleared without hitting the frame. Did that make sense?
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08-03-2008, 12:16 AM	#621
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,581 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue wreckd, did you have to modify the frame at all to mount them higher? No. I had 1" of clearence on each side between the frame and shackle mount. I put the bolt in from the inside, toward the frame, pushed it in til i could get the nut on, and then just ground down the bolt until it cleared without hitting the frame. Did that make sense? did you inboard past 31.5"? or are your frame rails symmetrical?
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08-03-2008, 12:23 AM	#622
wrekd Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 985 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS I know I didnt have to go past 31.5". But I'm not 100% sure theyre symmetrical. I think they are but I'll have to check tomorrow.
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08-03-2008, 12:26 AM	#623
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,581 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS get pics too if you could, i would be interested.
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08-03-2008, 12:28 AM	#624
Tim99Zr2 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,161 Location: Reynoldsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS yea, mine are symmetrical
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08-03-2008, 12:29 AM	#625
wrekd Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 985 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Yeah so are mine. i just went out and checked. Curiosity got the best of me
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08-03-2008, 12:30 AM	#626
DieselS10 Slightly Over Built Age: 34 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,243 Location: Chelsea, OK User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Looks good baggey!
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08-03-2008, 12:31 AM	#627
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,581 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd Yeah so are mine. i just went out and checked. Curiosity got the best of me was yours a 2wd originally?
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08-03-2008, 12:34 AM	#628
wrekd Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 985 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue was yours a 2wd originally? No it was a 4x4. I went and took a pic of it. So it'll be up in a few mins.
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08-03-2008, 12:40 AM	#629
wrekd Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 985 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Ok here it is. Its not a pretty mount, but it gets the job done
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08-03-2008, 12:43 AM	#630
Tim99Zr2 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,161 Location: Reynoldsville User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS i dont see a tailgate....
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08-03-2008, 12:45 AM	#631
wrekd Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 985 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Tailgates are overrated
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08-03-2008, 01:07 AM	#632
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,581 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd Ok here it is. Its not a pretty mount, but it gets the job done that is not really any different than mine, how about the other side?
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08-03-2008, 02:24 AM	#633
wrekd Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 985 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS Its exactly the same
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