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Old 12-09-2007, 03:58 AM   #51
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

ok, it took me awhile to get back home, i spent all day at my moms house for a family function. anyways, here are some of the brackets i made.


upper link axle end:

lower link axle ends:

frame panhard bar mounts:

upper link frame mount:

i made different ones for the rear and front:

upper coil bucket:


lower coil bucket:


and of course my bitchen sq. tube adapting bushing ends from suicide doors:
Old 12-09-2007, 06:23 AM   #52
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Do you have access to a CNC table, or are you cutting all those out by hand?
Old 12-09-2007, 12:48 PM   #53
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

this thing is gonna kick some seriouse A$$!
Old 12-09-2007, 02:54 PM   #54
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Quote: Originally Posted by BlownDime
Do you have access to a CNC table, or are you cutting all those out by hand?
those were cut on a laser/turret table. i dont easily have access to a cnc table, but i do have laser and or turret.
Old 12-09-2007, 06:31 PM   #55
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

btw, does anyone want any of the stuff that came off my blazer? things like front and rear axles, all IFS stuff, bumpers and tires, etc? PM me if you do.
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Donahue,
Can you explain how you cut all those things. I'm not familiar with a "turrett table." and if you have pictures tha'd be great. Thanks man
Edit: One mor question- are all your links adjustable and if so- at what end are they adjustable?
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:08 AM   #57
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Quote: Originally Posted by gusdaman
Donahue,
Can you explain how you cut all those things. I'm not familiar with a "turrett table." and if you have pictures tha'd be great. Thanks man
Edit: One mor question- are all your links adjustable and if so- at what end are they adjustable?
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a turret is a machine that punches metal, usually holes and other shapes. a laser table cuts things out with a high power laser. this particular machine has both capabilities.

it is something similar to this (found on google), infact this may be the exact table.



as for the links, my lowers are non adjustable, and my uppers will have one adjustable end (axle end, adjustable length), and they will also be adjustable at the crossmember (up or down 1").
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

So you drew them up on AutoCAD or something and then just punched it into the computer on the turret/laser table and it basically makes them by itself??
And is that typical to make the uppers adjustable and keep the lowers at a set length or is it just personal preference?
By the way- the parts look great- and what are your plans for painting them? just spray bomb or are you gonna herculine ore somthing?
Thanks
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue
a turret is a machine that punches metal, usually holes and other shapes. a laser table cuts things out with a high power laser. this particular machine has both capabilities.

it is something similar to this (found on google), infact this may be the exact table.



as for the links, my lowers are non adjustable, and my uppers will have one adjustable end (axle end, adjustable length), and they will also be adjustable at the crossmember (up or down 1").
Note to self "need to add on to the garage for this,because me want"
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Quote: Originally Posted by gusdaman
So you drew them up on AutoCAD or something and then just punched it into the computer on the turret/laser table and it basically makes them by itself??
And is that typical to make the uppers adjustable and keep the lowers at a set length or is it just personal preference?
By the way- the parts look great- and what are your plans for painting them? just spray bomb or are you gonna herculine ore somthing?
Thanks
GUS
just regular paint, they still have to get welded to the frame. the link adjustability is more or less just a preference. it will only really be adjustable to dial in the caster/pinion angle once everything is in the ball park.

yes on the auto cad thing, though solid works was also used. then some of it had to be bent, that was done on a press brake.
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Quote: Originally Posted by 02ZQ
Note to self "need to add on to the garage for this,because me want"
that one is about a million dollars...

besides, you dont want this one. it really only does up to 3/16" well. anything over that and the laser cut looks bad (like on my parts).
Old 12-10-2007, 03:27 AM   #62
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Yea... youd have to take out a few mortgages for one of them bad boys...The local Vocational School has one of them.. you talk about some slick looking stuff... id sooo love to have access to one of them...

AutoCad is a kickass program....Its confusing as crap at first to figure out how to use.. If youve taken a course in school on how to use it your set...all this shit makes me want to go into machining now!...and not work on Airplanes...Errr... Don you disgust me with all these cool looking parts!...LOL J/K man...

Everythings lookin good.. Cant wait to see the finished product...
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

That's a pretty crazy machine. I use to run CNC plasma and laser tables.
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Quote: Originally Posted by BatwingZ
...AutoCad is a kickass program...
if by kickass you mean old and out dated then you are right. solid works is by far the program for fabrication these days.
Old 12-10-2007, 07:56 AM   #65
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue
a turret is a machine that punches metal, usually holes and other shapes. a laser table cuts things out with a high power laser. this particular machine has both capabilities.

it is something similar to this (found on google), infact this may be the exact table.



as for the links, my lowers are non adjustable, and my uppers will have one adjustable end (axle end, adjustable length), and they will also be adjustable at the crossmember (up or down 1").
Ahhhhh an Amada. Well that's at least what we call it here at the factory, "The Amada" - I've honestly never heard it called a turret. We have a completely separate laser cutting machine also about 3x the size of the Amada. Some cool toys that they don't let me play with...
Old 12-10-2007, 08:13 AM   #66
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue
if by kickass you mean old and out dated then you are right. solid works is by far the program for fabrication these days.

Ok so im outdated....LOL... Didnt know anything about Solid Works... and Now youve really got me thinking about going into the machining world ..
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue
that one is about a million dollars...

besides, you dont want this one. it really only does up to 3/16" well. anything over that and the laser cut looks bad (like on my parts).

Yeah I know and that sucks only 3/16.
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisInVT
Ahhhhh an Amada. Well that's at least what we call it here at the factory, "The Amada" - I've honestly never heard it called a turret. We have a completely separate laser cutting machine also about 3x the size of the Amada. Some cool toys that they don't let me play with...
at this shop we have probably 10 machines that are "amada's". we call it the apelio. there are about 5 turrents, and probably about 6 or 7 laser tables of various kinds. we also call the turrets punch presses some times.
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue
at this shop we have probably 10 machines that are "amada's". we call it the apelio. there are about 5 turrents, and probably about 6 or 7 laser tables of various kinds. we also call the turrets punch presses some times.
Shit man, where the hell do you work? We're a moderately big manufacturer and never have the need for THAT much equipment!
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Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisInVT
Shit man, where the hell do you work? We're a moderately big manufacturer and never have the need for THAT much equipment!
its where i used to work, pacific metal fabrication. my brother in law still works there. its about 200k-300k sq feet of shop. there are probably 10 or so press brakes, 6 or so lasers, 6 or so turrets, 2 robotic welders (what i used to run), about a dozen welding stations, a full machine shop with about a dozen CNC machines and a few lathes, that sort of thing, a full powder coating line, things like pem press, CNC tube benders, a dozen large to small saws, and probably anything else you can think of. its probably the largest shop on the west coast outside of LA. we made everything you could think of from server towers to lift kits. i know we do a lot of work for revtek, and we made all the road armor bumpers you see.
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

updates:

well, i got my ring gear back today from my dad's shop. i had it turned down about 3/4" all the way around. now i need to shave the bottom of my differential to take up all the room i just gave it. i am going to take off about 3" from the bottom of my 14b. here is the ring gear, before and after.

before:






after:






now before everyone questions this, i am fully aware of the risks, and how likely it is to break now. i am ok with that, and this is an experiment. if i do break this, i will have to replace my entire housing. and if it doesnt work, then i will just go back to the normal ring gear/housing.
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

why did you do that? i am not sure i understand why?
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue
its where i used to work, pacific metal fabrication. my brother in law still works there. its about 200k-300k sq feet of shop. there are probably 10 or so press brakes, 6 or so lasers, 6 or so turrets, 2 robotic welders (what i used to run), about a dozen welding stations, a full machine shop with about a dozen CNC machines and a few lathes, that sort of thing, a full powder coating line, things like pem press, CNC tube benders, a dozen large to small saws, and probably anything else you can think of. its probably the largest shop on the west coast outside of LA. we made everything you could think of from server towers to lift kits. i know we do a lot of work for revtek, and we made all the road armor bumpers you see.
Ohhh, well that would explain the need for all that!
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Quote: Originally Posted by 19914x4blazer
why did you do that? i am not sure i understand why?
for better ground clearance. the rear end i am going to use is notorious for having poor ground clearance. i am going to cut about 3" off the bottom, and then plate it so there is only about 1/8" between the ring gear and the plate. its going to be like stepping up 6" in tire size.
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue
for better ground clearance. the rear end i am going to use is notorious for having poor ground clearance. i am going to cut about 3" off the bottom, and then plate it so there is only about 1/8" between the ring gear and the plate. its going to be like stepping up 6" in tire size.
That's why the good Lord allowed us to invent Ford 9s.
I'm kidding, for the most part. It would almost assuredly be a more expensive route.
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Quote: Originally Posted by NC4x4
That's why the good Lord allowed us to invent Ford 9s.
I'm kidding, for the most part. It would almost assuredly be a more expensive route.
i will have better clearance than a ford 9"
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well, some guy just walked away with my old 32's. i got $80 for them. seems like the end of an era...
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue
i will have better clearance than a ford 9"
Eh, you'd be hard pressed to do so, and even if you do, you've likely just made a weaker ring and pinion than a lower geared 9".
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Quote: Originally Posted by NC4x4
Eh, you'd be hard pressed to do so, and even if you do, you've likely just made a weaker ring and pinion than a lower geared 9".
that is perhaps right, but i know i will probably have better clearance than a 9" because i get to control where the housing gets plated below the ring gear. and, ring and pinion aside, this will be a hell of a lot stronger than a 9. now factor in the ring and pinion, and i may have my achilles heel, but then again it may be still strong enough because of how beefy it was to begin with. you definitely have me beat in gearing though, 5.38 is the lowest you can get for a 14b.
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Re: 89 SFA buildup for rocks

NC, do you know how far your housing hangs down from the centerline? just curious. i should be right at 5"