what engines will bolt up to the t-5?

luckyducky199 · 11-01-2009, 02:15 PM

Ok i have a 1993 2.8 5 speed s10. the 2.8 just isn't cutting it any more.
i really don't want to do a 350 swap. i want something that will get decent gas mileage have good torque and be easy enough for a cave man to swap in.
I just need to know what engines will bolt up no problem to my t-5?

Maverick2664 · 11-01-2009, 02:28 PM

the t5 came behind the small blocks in the third gen camaros/firebird/etc, so anything with the old small block bellhousing bolt pattern it should bolt up to

4.3, 305, 327, 350, 383, 400

luckyducky199 · 11-02-2009, 03:44 PM

so if i got the same (or close) 4.3 and the engine mounts could i possibly just swap it easy peasy. what all would i need from a donor vehicle or junkyard.

Maverick2664 · 11-02-2009, 07:50 PM

more or less yeah, anything you find is going to be tbi, which means youll need the computer and harness for the engine youre swapping in, so like you said, a complete donor vehicle will make this much easier, dont try to use any of your existing 2.8 wiring, it wont work

i know you said you didnt want a 350 swap, which i assume you mean v8's in general... but take into consideration a tpi 305 out of a camaro/firebird.. its not uncommon to see those get 20 mpg, and being a tpi they make great down low torque which you said you were after, and as long as you have a donor car to pull it from, it would not be any different than the 4.3 swap youre talking about

food for thought

luckyducky199 · 11-02-2009, 07:55 PM

the 305 was actually something i was thinking about. one of my dads friends just swapped out his 305 for a 350 in his camaro. but it is in parts and has no harness with it. what would i need to get the 305 running in my truck with the t-5?
would i need custom motor mounts or special harness? how hard is it to shoe horn a v8 in these trucks?

mostizzle · 11-02-2009, 09:51 PM

gm never produced a 383. any gm 383 is a stroked 350

Maverick2664 · 11-02-2009, 11:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mostizzle

gm never produced a 383. any gm 383 is a stroked 350

youre telling me like i dont know that? i built the one thats in my truck... i listed it because its becoming a common enough engine and "383" is thrown around a lot anymore, to someone that may not know that a 383 is made from a 350 block and doesnt see it listed could assume that it wont work, i almost wrote 377 too but hardly anyone destrokes a 400 it seems

im just covering all the bases

mostizzle · 11-03-2009, 12:26 AM

i'm just sayin 355,377,383 they're all basically a 350 in case the OP doesn't know. simmer down now lol and i wasn't directing the post towards you i was just stating a fact,sorry man

03blazer · 11-03-2009, 01:23 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by mostizzle

i'm just sayin 355,377,383 they're all basically a 350 in case the OP doesn't know. simmer down now lol and i wasn't directing the post towards you i was just stating a fact,sorry man

Actually a 377 uses a 400 block... just throwing that out there...

mostizzle · 11-03-2009, 06:51 PM

a 400 and a 350 block are essentially the same as far as outside architecture and dimensions tho correct? a chevy small blocks a chevy small block really if one fits they all fit

Maverick2664 · 11-03-2009, 07:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mostizzle

a 400 and a 350 block are essentially the same as far as outside architecture and dimensions tho correct? a chevy small blocks a chevy small block really if one fits they all fit

as far as bolting to transmissions and bolting to engine mounts yes, its the same as a 350, but externally the 400's are slightly different than the 350's, for instance, a 400 has 3 freeze plugs on each side of the block, any other small block only has 2

SH-60B · 11-03-2009, 09:47 PM

The 2.8 doesn't have the smallblock bolt pattern, It's a 60* V6 and the smallblocks are 90*V8, so, no smallblock is going to bolt up to your T5 unless you get a bell housing for a small block.

A 3.4 will bolt to it.

Maverick2664 · 11-04-2009, 12:36 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by SH-60B

The 2.8 doesn't have the smallblock bolt pattern, It's a 60* V6 and the smallblocks are 90*V8, so, no smallblock is going to bolt up to your T5 unless you get a bell housing for a small block.

A 3.4 will bolt to it.

i was wondering about that myself, i wasnt sure what family the 2.8s were... so the t5 that he has, has a different bellhousing than the t5's in the camaros?

SH-60B · 11-04-2009, 06:14 PM

Camaros had both 60* V6s and 90* V8s. It depends on the motor. IDK if the tranny itself is the same (kinda doubt it), but the bellhousing is different. 2.8L is from the 60* family - a norrow bolt pattern, 4.3L and all smallblocks are 90* - a much wider pattern.

11-01-2009, 02:15 PM	#1
luckyducky199 Registered User Age: 17 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 68 Location: User is: OffLine	what engines will bolt up to the t-5? Ok i have a 1993 2.8 5 speed s10. the 2.8 just isn't cutting it any more. i really don't want to do a 350 swap. i want something that will get decent gas mileage have good torque and be easy enough for a cave man to swap in. I just need to know what engines will bolt up no problem to my t-5?
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11-01-2009, 02:28 PM	#2
Maverick2664 Heavy Metal Body Man Age: 25 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,846 Location: Erie PA User is: OffLine	Re: what engines will bolt up to the t-5? the t5 came behind the small blocks in the third gen camaros/firebird/etc, so anything with the old small block bellhousing bolt pattern it should bolt up to 4.3, 305, 327, 350, 383, 400
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11-02-2009, 03:44 PM	#3
luckyducky199 Registered User Age: 17 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 68 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: what engines will bolt up to the t-5? so if i got the same (or close) 4.3 and the engine mounts could i possibly just swap it easy peasy. what all would i need from a donor vehicle or junkyard.
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11-02-2009, 07:50 PM	#4
Maverick2664 Heavy Metal Body Man Age: 25 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,846 Location: Erie PA User is: OffLine	Re: what engines will bolt up to the t-5? more or less yeah, anything you find is going to be tbi, which means youll need the computer and harness for the engine youre swapping in, so like you said, a complete donor vehicle will make this much easier, dont try to use any of your existing 2.8 wiring, it wont work i know you said you didnt want a 350 swap, which i assume you mean v8's in general... but take into consideration a tpi 305 out of a camaro/firebird.. its not uncommon to see those get 20 mpg, and being a tpi they make great down low torque which you said you were after, and as long as you have a donor car to pull it from, it would not be any different than the 4.3 swap youre talking about food for thought
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11-02-2009, 07:55 PM	#5
luckyducky199 Registered User Age: 17 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 68 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: what engines will bolt up to the t-5? the 305 was actually something i was thinking about. one of my dads friends just swapped out his 305 for a 350 in his camaro. but it is in parts and has no harness with it. what would i need to get the 305 running in my truck with the t-5? would i need custom motor mounts or special harness? how hard is it to shoe horn a v8 in these trucks?
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11-02-2009, 09:51 PM	#6
mostizzle You...Tonight Age: 32 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 804 Location: St.Clair Shores,MI. User is: OffLine	Re: what engines will bolt up to the t-5? gm never produced a 383. any gm 383 is a stroked 350
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11-02-2009, 11:11 PM	#7
Maverick2664 Heavy Metal Body Man Age: 25 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,846 Location: Erie PA User is: OffLine	Re: what engines will bolt up to the t-5? Quote: Originally Posted by mostizzle gm never produced a 383. any gm 383 is a stroked 350 youre telling me like i dont know that? i built the one thats in my truck... i listed it because its becoming a common enough engine and "383" is thrown around a lot anymore, to someone that may not know that a 383 is made from a 350 block and doesnt see it listed could assume that it wont work, i almost wrote 377 too but hardly anyone destrokes a 400 it seems im just covering all the bases
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11-03-2009, 12:26 AM	#8
mostizzle You...Tonight Age: 32 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 804 Location: St.Clair Shores,MI. User is: OffLine	Re: what engines will bolt up to the t-5? i'm just sayin 355,377,383 they're all basically a 350 in case the OP doesn't know. simmer down now lol and i wasn't directing the post towards you i was just stating a fact,sorry man
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11-03-2009, 01:23 AM	#9
03blazer Gettin' ready for V8! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 338 Location: Gulfport, MS User is: OffLine	Re: what engines will bolt up to the t-5? Quote: Originally Posted by mostizzle i'm just sayin 355,377,383 they're all basically a 350 in case the OP doesn't know. simmer down now lol and i wasn't directing the post towards you i was just stating a fact,sorry man Actually a 377 uses a 400 block... just throwing that out there...
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11-03-2009, 06:51 PM	#10
mostizzle You...Tonight Age: 32 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 804 Location: St.Clair Shores,MI. User is: OffLine	Re: what engines will bolt up to the t-5? a 400 and a 350 block are essentially the same as far as outside architecture and dimensions tho correct? a chevy small blocks a chevy small block really if one fits they all fit
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11-03-2009, 07:41 PM	#11
Maverick2664 Heavy Metal Body Man Age: 25 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,846 Location: Erie PA User is: OffLine	Re: what engines will bolt up to the t-5? Quote: Originally Posted by mostizzle a 400 and a 350 block are essentially the same as far as outside architecture and dimensions tho correct? a chevy small blocks a chevy small block really if one fits they all fit as far as bolting to transmissions and bolting to engine mounts yes, its the same as a 350, but externally the 400's are slightly different than the 350's, for instance, a 400 has 3 freeze plugs on each side of the block, any other small block only has 2
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11-03-2009, 09:47 PM	#12
SH-60B Registered Neanderthal Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,335 Location: Meriden/CT/USA User is: OffLine	Re: what engines will bolt up to the t-5? The 2.8 doesn't have the smallblock bolt pattern, It's a 60* V6 and the smallblocks are 90V8, so, no smallblock is going to bolt up to your T5 unless you get a bell housing for a small block. A 3.4 will bolt to it. Last edited by SH-60B : 11-03-2009 at 09:48 PM.*
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11-04-2009, 12:36 AM	#13
Maverick2664 Heavy Metal Body Man Age: 25 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,846 Location: Erie PA User is: OffLine	Re: what engines will bolt up to the t-5? Quote: Originally Posted by SH-60B The 2.8 doesn't have the smallblock bolt pattern, It's a 60* V6 and the smallblocks are 90*V8, so, no smallblock is going to bolt up to your T5 unless you get a bell housing for a small block. A 3.4 will bolt to it. i was wondering about that myself, i wasnt sure what family the 2.8s were... so the t5 that he has, has a different bellhousing than the t5's in the camaros?
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11-04-2009, 06:14 PM	#14
SH-60B Registered Neanderthal Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,335 Location: Meriden/CT/USA User is: OffLine	Re: what engines will bolt up to the t-5? Camaros had both 60* V6s and 90* V8s. It depends on the motor. IDK if the tranny itself is the same (kinda doubt it), but the bellhousing is different. 2.8L is from the 60* family - a norrow bolt pattern, 4.3L and all smallblocks are 90* - a much wider pattern.
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