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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
i have a 99 blazer rear disc with a bad crown and pinion , i have a rear end from a 93 jimmy same ratio but it has drums , if i understand i can switch my discs over to the jimmy rear and everything bults up
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
I'm getting ready to do this swap very soon so how exactly to you connect the rear brake lines to the master cylinder?
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
Same way it's connected now. That said, we discovered in just swapping the parts over you will need to move the flanges in about 3/4" |
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NEVER2LOW
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
Stock Rear End with disc brake conversion & working e-brake.
If any one wants detailed instructions on how I did mine with a list of parts let me know. It cost around $300 for all parts except rotors and pads. ![]() ![]() |
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
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NEVER2LOW
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
This was done on a 1995 CHEVY S10 2.2
Parts 1. Brackets from www.scarebird.com $100 (you will have to drill your own holes in brackets to mount them to the rearend/axle flange) 2. 1979-1985 Cadillac Eldorado rear calipers/has e-brake lever on back of caliper to connect your lines to. (These are a little over $100 each new so I went with used and just cleaned them up) 3. 1994-1998 S10 4x4 front rotors (the axle shaft flange needs to be trimmed down to fit inside of rotors with about 0.010-0.045 clearance) 4. Braided lines with fittings to connect to calipers (factory lines can be used but I prefered braided) Instructions 1. Block front wheels and crack lugnuts loose on rear wheels. Jack up rear of truck and support it with jackstands. Remove wheels. 2. If your truck has C clip axle retainers then you will need to take of the rear differential cover (pumpkin cover) & drain fluid. Then remove center pin retaining bolt & center pin. Once you have the center pin out push your axle in to remove the C clips keeping it in place, once the clip is out the axle will pull right out. (make sure to watch your gears so that they don't fall out of place when doing this). Now if you have bolt in axles remove bolts then attach slide hammer and remove axle shafts. 3. Once the axles are out you will need to bring them to a machine shop and hace the axle flanges trimmed down to fit inside of 94-98 S10 4X4 front rotors with around 0.010-0.045 clearance. (I recommend replacing your wheel studs while axles are out. Replacement are a bit longer then your current ones if you need the couple extra threads) 4. Remove drums with all hardware, backing plate & disconnect brake lines and e-brake. 3. If your truck has C clip axle retainers then you will need to take of the rear differential cover (pumpkin cover) & drain fluid. Then remove center pin retaining bolt & center pin. Once you have the center pin out push your axle in to remove the C clips keeping it in place, once the clip is out the axle will pull right out. (make sure to watch your gears so that they don't fall out of place when doing this). Now if you have bolt in axles remove bolts then attach slide hammer and remove axle shafts. |
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NEVER2LOW
Age: 21
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
This was done on a 1995 CHEVY S10 2.2 with stock rear end.
Parts 1. Brackets from www.scarebird.com $100 (you will have to drill your own holes in brackets to mount them to the rear end/axle flange) 2. 1979-1985 Cadillac Eldorado rear calipers/has e-brake lever on back of caliper to connect your lines to. (These are a little over $100 each new so I went with used and just cleaned them up) 3. 1979-1985 Cadillac Eldorado rear caliper pads 4. 1994-1998 S10 4x4 front rotors (the axle shaft flange needs to be trimmed down to fit inside of rotors with about 0.010-0.045 clearance) 5. Axle seals which are around $5 each 6. Braided lines with fittings to connect to calipers (factory lines can be used but I preferred braided) 7. New wheel studs for the rear which I believe are $1-$2 each. (I recommend replacing while axles are out) Instructions 1. Block front wheels and crack lug nuts loose on rear wheels. Jack up rear of truck and support it with jack stands. Remove wheels. 2. If your truck has C clip axle retainers then you will need to take of the rear differential cover (pumpkin cover) & drain fluid. Then remove center pin retaining bolt & center pin. Once you have the center pin out push your axle in to remove the C clips keeping it in place, once the clip is out the axle will pull right out. (make sure to watch your gears so that they don't fall out of place when doing this). Now if you have bolt in axles remove bolts then attach slide hammer and remove axle shafts. 3. Once the axles are out you will need to bring them to a machine shop and have the axle flanges trimmed down to fit inside 94-98 S10 4X4 front rotors with around 0.010-0.045 clearance. (I recommend replacing your wheel studs while axles are out. Replacement studs from any automotive store are a bit longer then your current ones if you need the couple extra threads) 4. Remove drums with all hardware, backing plate, master wheel cylinder & disconnect brake lines and e-brake. 5. Replace your axle seals while the axles are out and check your bearings (replace bearings if needed). 6. Test fit your caliper bracket from www.scarebird.com. Drill any necessary holes in bracket to mount it securely to rear end. (I had to use a die grinder and take a bit out of the middle of the bracket to make it sit properly against the rear end before drilling necessary holes for mounting.) 7. Once bracket is mounted securely and axle seals are replaced then reinstall axles. Push axles all the way in & reinstall C clip then pull the axle out locking it in place. Install center pin and center pin bolt. 8. Make sure no debris went in the rear diff if left uncovered while axles where out getting machined. Reinstall rear differential cover and fill back up with 80W-90 gear lube (I used 80W-90 Vavoline Gear Lube) through fill plug located at the front right of the rear end (when looking at the back of it front right). Fill up to the bottom of the plug which I believe is around 2-2.5 qts. 9. Install rotors, calipers & pads. (Calipers are from the rear of a 1979-1985 Cadillac Eldorado and bolt right to brackets with factory caliper bolts) 10. You will need a longer E-brake cable if you are planning on using the e-brake. The cable connects to a e-brake lever on the rear of the calipers. 11. Reconnect brake lines and fill up the master cylinder then bleed the brakes. 12. Go for a test drive and make sure everything is working properly. Last edited by BusinessMan_24 : 12-07-2007 at 08:29 PM. |
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
I knew that this could be done without changing rearends, thanks guy for the post and so simple to follow. I didnt mind changing the rearend just thought it was a more of a PITA going to a junck yard looking for the right rearend and making sure the gears were the same, and being sure that you are not buying someone elses headache, ie: broken or worn out rear gears.
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
ok read whole thread and didn't see an answer to my question not saying it wasn't discussed but i missed it. anyway, i have a bent axle and i have swapped just the brakes from drum to disc with factory 8.5 rear. i have things spaced out and don't like it. i am going to order new axles and was wondereing if anyone knew exactly what the spacing is so i can just change the overall length of the new axles. like from flange to bearing. can someone help or is this a waste of time. if someone doesn't think this will work please let me know and why. thanks.
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
so i'm about to do this swap on a 00' 2wd s10, if i were to find a 00' Blazer rear end with disk brakes it should swap no problems or would their be extra work involved? sorry to ask a dumb question but this will have to be a weekend at the most and don't really want to get into it and not have everything i need. thank again all
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
I recently just got a G80 rear out of a 97 Old. Bravada AWD (im pretty sure bravadas come in AWD, as this was jsut a chassis, no body and i know it's a locked rear as i took it apart at my shop and replaced seals and cleaned everything up) but it is going into a 97 S10 Xcab 2wd, and ive heard that 4x4 blazer G80 rears are 2inches wider than my stock 2WD axel and im running the 1st Style ZQ8 wheel on my truck, will this become a problem? thanks.
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
I HAVE A '93 BRAVADA WITH REAR ABS & DRUMS (G80 / GT4) I HAVE A DISC REAR END (G80 / GT4) OUT OF A '98 BRAVADA WITH 4-WHEEL ABS. I NEED HELP WITH THE E-BRAKE CABLE ISSUE. |
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
My Other Question Is About The Booster.
The Rpo For The Booster In The '93 Is: Jm3 - Brake, 240mm Tandem, High Flow. The Rpo For The Booster In The '98 Is: Jc1 - Brake, "vac Power, 4-wheel Disc, 5,500lbs. What's The Difference, Which Is Better, Do I Need To Swap It Out? Also When I Do The Rear End Swap To Disc? |
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Age: 25
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
Very nice...I have a 99 S10 Xtreme and am looking to do this same kinda of conversion on the rear of my truck. I dont plan on replacing the entire rear end like you have, but I found a disc brake kit off of a 99 blazer that someone has for sale. However, my question is this. I can easily replace the drum brake set up for that of the disc brake set up as found on the blazer. It is a bolt on job. Once I have this done, I am thinking that replacing the proportioning valve at the master cylinder may be in line or using some sort of aftermarket valving to properly feed fluid to the discs at the rear. I dont think the stock wheel cylinders require as much pressure as the discs would. Any feedback on this or does anyone think that the stock proportional valve is adequate?
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Seasoned MiniTrucker
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
What's this about using Camaro/Firebird parts? Somebody mentioned a rear disc swap with parts from an F-body, but what do you need? Sounds like some 1/4" spacers for the backing plates, but what will fit? BTW-thanks for the "how to" with your method, BusinessMan. I'm still trying to weigh my options before I decide which route to take...
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Will work for turbo parts
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
Does anyone know if the blazer and the pickup parking brake cables are the same? Otherwise, do I need to find a different length intermediate cable for the parking brake? Mine didn't fit with the rear end cable from a blazer (Too short)
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brakes hate me
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
ext. cab= 4D Blazer reg cab long bed= ? crew cab= ? |
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Will work for turbo parts
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
The cables came off a 4 door blazer, and are going onto a long bed S10. The drum cables are the same between the shortcab and the long bed. They use a short piece of cable that goes between the cable that attaches right before the equalizer.
If they are not the same, does anyone have the part number so I can order new ones? Last edited by King_Ice_Flash2 : 03-01-2008 at 12:28 PM. |
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
I haven't figured the e-brake thing out either but i'm thinking of just taking the whole parking brake assembly from a 98+ camero and mocking it up to work with my x-cab.
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
are 7.5 axles and 8.5 axles the same? I have located a 7.5 disc rear out of a 99 blazer. i have a 8.5 in my 03 s10 now. wanting to upgrade the brakes on the 8.5 but dont want to be shimming the backing plate. if i could use the 7.5 axles in teh 8.5 rear then everything would be simple.
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
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I RIDE LO
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
I have a 97 2wd rearend in my truck with 3:08 gears and an open diff.
I bought an 01 2wd blazer rearend to put on my truck. it is a 3:42 gears with limited slip posi and disk brakes. How do i get the driveshaft from my 97 to bolt up to the 01 diff? My 97 diff: ![]() The 01 diff: ![]() thank you for the help. please answer asap as i have the truck apart right now and need to know... |
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Huge Ideas, Tiny Wallet
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
Well I'm not a pro on the subject, but it appears you'll have to unbolt the yoke off the new rear and swap your setup onto it. I don't know if unbolting the yoke may affect pinion settings but that looks like what must be done so your driveshaft and double universal setup will bolt up. Hopefully one of the other members who is in the know will chime in with a definite answer for you.
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I RIDE LO
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
yes, i believe you are correct. I went and stopped by my mechanic and he told me that you can swap the yokes. there is a crush sleeve in there and when you tighten the pinion seal you have to be very careful not to overtighten it. i am just going to take both rearends up to their shop tomorrow and he said he will swap them for me in 5 minutes... and he's not gonna charge me anything so that is a plus! I'll update after tomorrow. thanks for the answer!
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Huge Ideas, Tiny Wallet
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
No problem. I knew about the crush sleeve but I wasn't sure how loosening the pinion and retightening it would affect pinion depth setting.
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
DAMN GOOD THREAD gonna have to do this swap my self soon
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I RIDE LO
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
well i took the rearends to my mechanic today and he swapped the yokes, no problem at all. i bought a new pinion seal for it and he made sure to tighten it enough, but not overtighten it to crush that sleeve. so all is good! and the project continues!!!!
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
hey, does anyone know if a disk rear end from a second gen 2wd will fit in a drum 2wd first gen..(width,d-shaft issues, and leaf mount wise)
i need to get some better gears, and also would like disc brakes.. if it will fit, is there one i should look for thats stronger.. Last edited by jarrodh : 05-20-2008 at 02:43 AM. |
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
Hey guys I found this linky here that shows how to do it down to 1986 s10
http://www.locostusa.com/forums/view...296263 ffaa31 Best Regards and Always smiling Weldorguy |
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
yes i know for sure that a 2nd gen rear end will bolt right up to a first gen with no problems as long a the axel housings are the same i did this on my 90 blazer and it was cake just simply swap the whole deal
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
wishing there was somone with the mechanic skills close to me in cleveland i would love to do the swap for read disks i hate these drums but im not in any condition to do the work on top of not having any tools
I just had surgery on my Knee so could not do any of the work if there is anyone who might be intrested in the area that knows how to do this and might help and have tools I can pay a little money for the help and can help out with what i can anyone in the cleveland area that would be up for this perhaps |
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
why cant i see any pictures? |
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
ok so for my 2000 s10 pickup extended cab i would need the parking brake cables from a 4 door blazer?
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
ok question so iv been lookin into this and on the 4x4 rear discs the rotors are different than a 2wd rotor so if a 2wd rotor was used with all the 4x4 backing plates would the flange still need to be moved?
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
what are we talking about hear about backing plate
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
so i got the swap off a 8.5 rear im putting it on a 7.5 rear. how big of a spacer am i going to need to aline the caliper mount up right with the rotor. i made 1/4in thick spacers and now it looks like i need to make 3/8 spacer instead , am i right?
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
Why would the backing plate need to move back 3/4 inch? THERE is no need to cut , weld , or anything!!! The drum brake rearends are 48" backing plate to plate..With that said the disc rears are 48.5"...So about a 1/4" spacer needs to be made to line the caliper up with the rotor..check out this thread: http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f14/al...brakes-390664/ Oh and this thread needs to be cleaned up. There is a lot of wrong info in the earlier posts... |
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
maybe i didnt word it right i made that 1/4 spacer and it is not right it needs a 3/8 spacer to fit it just right
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
I have a 2002 S10 2 wheel drive 4.3l with stick shift and drum brakes, Would the rear axle out of a 2002 S10 that is 4 wheel drive 4.3l and automatic with disk brakes. bolt right up to my truck?
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
The 4WD rear is 4.5" wider than the 2wd 54.5"WMS rear...It will bolt in no problems but the 2wd offset wheels will stick out past the fender...
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
great write up.
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
any info on the ebrake situation?? getting ready to swap 2nd gen disc rear for stock 1st gen drum rear..
mine is a 1st gen 2dr blazer, disc rear is also a 2dr but 2nd gen blazer.. thanks-shane Last edited by killyaself : 10-02-2009 at 04:11 PM. |
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!
Just to recap here.. it would be okay to swap out a '96 S10 rear end with a 98+ 2wd Blazer rear end without any fitment issues? The truck is body dropped too, so I don't want a wider rear end.
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