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Cool Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

Well I got the new rear end in! I had wanted disc brakes for a long time, I came across a good deal on a g80 (limited slip posi) rear w/ disc brakes from a 99 blazer. It only had 33k on the rear and I got it for $180.00 bux! YAY.... So I finally get around to installing it this weekend with the help of Grappler...(Thanx once again bud)...

The install is fairly straight forward: (see notes at the end of this page): So I started by picking up the rear at my local wrecking yard. It's been sitting in mud for almost a year (the back end of the blazer it was on had no wheels and it's a messy yard)...

Here is the rear...As you can see there is a lot of surface rust...



Fortunatly the emergency brake shoes were in good shape as seen here...


Grappler taking a break before the installation... (see ending notes)



The dust shields were toast (rusted and bent) so I pulled the diff cover, then the axels and put new ones on.. In this pic you can see on the left side how bad they were banged up... on the right side I had already removed the dust shield...I also took the opprotunity to change the diff fluid... Sprayed out the casing with 2 cans of brake clean, let dry, then added Valvoline Durablend (dino/synthetic mix) 80/90 weight gear oil.



I used a wire wheel on an air rotary tool to get any scaling and debri (i.e mud) off of the casing. I then used a spray on rust inhibitor/converter/primer and let it sit overnight. (actually a couple of days because I couldn't get back to it). I then put on 2 coats of Rustolium Black w/ hammered finish on to it. This gives the benifit of being less rusty later on (gads I hate salt) and it actually looks good. I may do my whole frame in the stuff.

Here's a pic of it when it was half painted. You can see on the right the finished product while on the left it's still bare. Definatly an improvement.



I then cleaned up the calipers. Ground out the dirt and grease on the calipers themselves (aluminum, not iron, very light weight!) then cleaned and painted the actual caliper frame in the same color as I painted the rear itself.

In this pic I had test fitted the newly cut rotors and the calipers.... They came out very well...



rear side...



Once the new rear was finally ready for installation we of course had to pull the old one... This was simply a matter of diconnecting the vent hose, brake line T, emergency brake lines, u-bolts, drive shaft. Remember when you pull the u-joint, run some tape around both the end caps so they don't fall off when manuervering the shaft around.


Then we jacked it up and slid it out lengthwise....

My baby don't got back...



Here is the old rear in all it's glory (and salt)



Installtion is the same as extraction, just in reverse....

Grappler taking a break before the installation...



Without Caliper but with caliper frame: Note.. I took the opprotunity to install red polyeurethayne bushings on my swaybar to replace the OEM 10 year old rubber bushings....



With full caliper installed.


Angle 2


Finally when you've reattached all your brake lines, simply bleed all the air out of the calipers and lines. Test drive, enjoy!!!!



Some notes and conclusions:

Overall this is not a difficult swap. If I had been less concerned about the type of rear I was getting (g80) there is actually an easier way to do this. The above will work on 84 to current... This will also work... If you want to add OEM stock disc brakes to your EXISTING drum rear without changing the whole rear you would only need the following....

All 98 and up parts (these will work all the way down to 86)

Backing plates (27.00 per side )
Calipers (30.00)
Caliper frames (20.00)
Pads ($20.00)
Discs (36.00 per side at advance auto parts)
OR a loaded caliper from Advance autoparts (includes frame, pads, calipers, bolts, et-al)
Stock bolts
Dust shields (12.00 per side at the dealer)
Brake lines to the caliper...($15.00 each)

Simply remove your old shoes and the backing plates, install the new backing plates then the calipers, etc... Bleed and go...


EMERGENCY BRAKE INSTALLATION..

From the center of the body you will see a bracket where your pedal cable and your ebrake cables. From the bracket to the backing plates, those 2 cables will need to be replaced ($23.00 per side at the dealer) as the drum style has different ends and won't work with the new setup.. (This is only for 95 to current, 94 and below have a completely different cabling system so you would have to figure out on your own on how to go about making the ebrake work)



Definatly better stopping power than with my drums, the overall upgrade was well worth it. Overall time was about 4 hours (this included breaks and what not)
Old 02-27-2005, 11:17 PM   #2
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

great man, that lt1 needs to slow down faster, thanks
I need to go pillage soem yards for a g80 soon , like before I start attaching the 4 link
Old 02-27-2005, 11:29 PM   #3
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

gezz, whos that lazy bum helpin you?! need to get him off his fat arse and get some work done! now if only the swap went as easily as this write up did!
Old 02-27-2005, 11:32 PM   #4
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

Quote: Originally Posted by Grappler
gezz, whos that lazy bum helpin you?! need to get him off his fat arse and get some work done! now if only the swap went as easily as this write up did!

All told it was fairly easy (with the exception of the razor blade in your shoulder...and me whacking you in the head with the jack handle! And I keep wanting to work on your swaps dammit!
Old 02-27-2005, 11:44 PM   #5
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swaps? im not doing no stinking swaps. just need a job i get paid the same at and work less.. so i can get my bills paid and get out to clean the garage and get some decent progress done on them.
yeah the razor blade did suck!
Old 02-27-2005, 11:48 PM   #6
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

Quote: Originally Posted by Grappler
swaps? im not doing no stinking swaps. just need a job i get paid the same at and work less.. so i can get my bills paid and get out to clean the garage and get some decent progress done on them.
yeah the razor blade did suck!

Become a male prostitute... Cmon, afterall you love to whore yourself for parts!!!
Old 02-27-2005, 11:50 PM   #7
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ill remember that the next time you need to work out of my garage.. who the whore is for what..
Old 02-27-2005, 11:53 PM   #8
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

Quote: Originally Posted by Grappler
ill remember that the next time you need to work out of my garage.. who the whore is for what..

I'll just send "you know who" to move in with you...

But let me say, for the record, I have always appreciated any help you've given me, be it advice or physical help...

k, back to the cracks... giggidy giggidy giggidy
Old 02-28-2005, 12:12 AM   #9
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

nice rick............ look andy is alive... wholey hell
Old 02-28-2005, 06:14 AM   #10
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

Quote: Originally Posted by Park Style
nice rick............ look andy is alive... wholey hell
I prefer to call him...."Undead"...
Old 02-28-2005, 07:44 PM   #11
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

this should proolly be inthe how to section shouldnt it?? very good swap instructions tho, makes me wanna swap my rear end
Old 02-28-2005, 07:46 PM   #12
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

nice work man
Old 08-13-2005, 06:37 PM   #13
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

I Guess I'll give this a try. I need to get the truck on the road again. I guess I get any axle w/ drums and just swap my discs equipment over to it.
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

are there any codes on the rears themselves that can give me the ratio of the rear?
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

nevermind i just searched and i guess there isnt
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

off hand do u guys know if the rear like the one u picked up is the same length as one under a pickup? I am looking to swap my rear out of my 98 pickup for a g80 rear with discs out of a blazer.....

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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

I think the 2wd rears are 2" shorter than a 4wd rear, other than that 2wd ones are the same.
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

Quote: Originally Posted by Chris H.
off hand do u guys know if the rear like the one u picked up is the same length as one under a pickup? I am looking to swap my rear out of my 98 pickup for a g80 rear with discs out of a blazer.....

Thanks
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If your moving from a 4x4 s10 to blazer or vice versa they're the same length, same for the 2wd to 2wd 4x4 length is longer and the mounting points are different...
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

Quote: Originally Posted by Chris H.
off hand do u guys know if the rear like the one u picked up is the same length as one under a pickup? I am looking to swap my rear out of my 98 pickup for a g80 rear with discs out of a blazer.....

Thanks
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Also if U are lucky enuf to get a 8.5 rear outta a Blazer the rear is about an inch longer where it attaches to the driveshaft. So U will need a shorter drive shaft, or get yours shortened.
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

Why is this not a sticky? I will be doing this soon, thanks rlith, your how tos have helped me with a few things. Do you need brake lines from a 98+ or will the 94-97 brake lines work?
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

Quote: Originally Posted by Watrboy821
Why is this not a sticky? I will be doing this soon, thanks rlith, your how tos have helped me with a few things. Do you need brake lines from a 98+ or will the 94-97 brake lines work?
Best to get the lines from the donor.
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

alright thanks a lot
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

Found my 3.73 rear today in my dad's pile of s10 stuff. I now have it all(well i gotta get calipers but i have cores). I should have it done soon and I will post pictures up on my car domain.
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

got my new calipers and painted up my brackets. The pads are rusty but rather than buy new pads i used some that we had lying around. I will have pics of my rear when i clean it up and paint it tomorrow. And on saturday i am doing the swap so i will have pics.

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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

Will the directions for the drum to disc swap (with the axle that is under the truck) work with the 8.5 too? Just curious. I may get around to doing that one of these days.
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

the calipers on an 8.5in rear are the same calipers that are on a 7.5in rear. I know this because i have a couple 8.5in rears sitting around. The brake change should be any different.

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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

Quote: Originally Posted by Watrboy821
the calipers on an 8.5in rear are the same calipers that are on a 7.5in rear. I know this because i have a couple 8.5in rears sitting around. The brake change should be any different.
I meant to say shouldn't be any different
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

if you buy all the disc parts and bolt them to a drum rearend how does the e brake work? is the existing shoe setup compatible with the new rotors?
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

Quote: Originally Posted by teamfu_az
if you buy all the disc parts and bolt them to a drum rearend how does the e brake work? is the existing shoe setup compatible with the new rotors?
We found out after this how-to was done that the flange on the axeltube has to be moved 3/4" back for the bolt on to work... And weather you do it that way or thw whole rear end swap, you just need the cable from the driver door back..
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

not to be a bug since im new but can anyone post pics of a brake swap instead of a rearend swap. i dont care what car the parts are from as long as ist oem bolt on ill do it. i get smokin deals on replacement parts and i like to keep it cheap. thx in advance
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Re: Drum to Disc brake rear end swap how-to!

Quote: Originally Posted by teamfu_az
not to be a bug since im new but can anyone post pics of a brake swap instead of a rearend swap. i dont care what car the parts are from as long as ist oem bolt on ill do it. i get smokin deals on replacement parts and i like to keep it cheap. thx in advance
As I said above, in order to even atempt to do it that way you will need to move the flange for the baking plate back 3/4" and reweld it...