Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings?

meyers2211 · 06-24-2008, 09:38 PM

exactly title. I've never seen them but i keep going through slave cylinders and i wonder if its cause i do not have a pilot

Petterle · 06-24-2008, 09:45 PM

im pretty sure all 5 or 6 speeds do, the one on my last truck was going bad i think.

tippmann243 · 06-25-2008, 07:39 AM

Every Manual Trans Has A Pilot Bearing Or Bushing

The Stunningman · 06-25-2008, 11:44 AM

I could see the vibration from the clutch locking off-center doing all kinds of damage. You absolutley need a pilot bushing.

meyers2211 · 06-25-2008, 06:24 PM

could be a good reason why i'm blowing slave cylinders, 500lbs of torque twists the input and starts rubbing on the slave

xtrememeasures10 · 06-25-2008, 07:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by meyers2211

could be a good reason why i'm blowing slave cylinders, 500lbs of torque twists the input and starts rubbing on the slave

get one in there quick dude. my transmission was destroyed by a bad pilot bearing.

meyers2211 · 06-25-2008, 09:38 PM

where did u get one, i think i will head to the dealership for this one

xtrememeasures10 · 06-26-2008, 12:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by meyers2211

where did u get one, i think i will head to the dealership for this one

came in the clutch kit. Youll need a puller to get it out.

tippmann243 · 06-26-2008, 09:05 PM

any parts store will ahve it

1fast4by · 06-26-2008, 09:08 PM

Yea, If you dont have one at all, Im surprised that thing lasted 2 miles

meyers2211 · 06-30-2008, 01:21 AM

it lasted for over 12k miles, and 3k of that at over 500lbs of torque when boosted..

I bought one today but its just a bushing, did u guys get a needle bearing unit or a solid steel bushing?

tippmann243 · 06-30-2008, 08:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by meyers2211

it lasted for over 12k miles, and 3k of that at over 500lbs of torque when boosted..

I bought one today but its just a bushing, did u guys get a needle bearing unit or a solid steel bushing?

**** pilot bearings those things are the biggest piece of shit ever invented.

get a BRASS pilot BUSHING and call it a day

The Stunningman · 06-30-2008, 09:56 PM

Theres also an adapter which GM calls an insert you will need if converting from a A/T engine.

The Stunningman · 06-30-2008, 10:50 PM

Funny thing on this subject though is I had a guy bring me his 2.5 S10 that he uses to pull all kinds of junk to the iron metal place to me to change the clutch about 2 months ago. He said it had just had a new clutch put in about a year before. Well I pulled the transmission and it lookied like someone had shaved their cat in side the bellhousing hairlike strands everywhere. The whole front of the disc was exposed to the rivets. It had an insert but no pilot bushing at all. I'm guessing the prior mechanic pulled it and forgot to replace it.

xtrememeasures10 · 07-03-2008, 02:31 PM

My pilot bearing is oil impregnated bronze. I dont think roller bearings are a great idea in that environment. Its too dirty and dusy with the clutch dust getting in there.

tippmann243 · 07-04-2008, 12:15 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by xtrememeasures10

My pilot bearing is oil impregnated bronze. I dont think roller bearings are a great idea in that environment. Its too dirty and dusy with the clutch dust getting in there.

ok lets set this straight

a pilot BUSHING is a solid chunk of brass or bronze

a pilot BEARING is a unit that has needle bearings in it. its an actual bearing where the two half's can spin seperatly

xtrememeasures10 · 07-04-2008, 01:37 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by tippmann243

ok lets set this straight

a pilot BUSHING is a solid chunk of brass or bronze

a pilot BEARING is a unit that has needle bearings in it. its an actual bearing where the two half's can spin seperatly

Thats just two different types of bearings. There are three different types, plain, ball and roller. Whats commonly known as a pilot bushing is infact a pilot bearing its a plain bearing. Just like crankshafts have plain bearings.

The oil impregnated bronze heats up and oil seeps out of the metal.

meyers2211 · 07-04-2008, 12:07 PM

ok well i went down to my local race shop and ordered a Ram Pilot bearing, which is roller bearings, for 18 bucks i get a good name so i threw the crappy bushing out

xtrememeasures10 · 07-04-2008, 11:50 PM

w/e works man there all going to eventually wear out. good luck. How'd you get the old one out? Mine was a pain in the ass to get out. I had to machine a puller.

Quote: Originally Posted by meyers2211

ok well i went down to my local race shop and ordered a Ram Pilot bearing, which is roller bearings, for 18 bucks i get a good name so i threw the crappy bushing out

meyers2211 · 07-07-2008, 07:29 PM

i never had one in there... ever, i've only had the truck for a little over a year...explains why the last owner went threw 2 transmissions.

i bought a moroso SBC one today, they never ordered my ram but swapped it out for a needle bearing moroso.

06-24-2008, 09:38 PM	#1
meyers2211 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,717 Location: Lindenhurst NY User is: Online	Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? exactly title. I've never seen them but i keep going through slave cylinders and i wonder if its cause i do not have a pilot
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06-24-2008, 09:45 PM	#2
Petterle I need a new truck! Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,319 Location: oakley, california User is: OffLine	Re: Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? im pretty sure all 5 or 6 speeds do, the one on my last truck was going bad i think.
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06-25-2008, 07:39 AM	#3
tippmann243 the youngest has been Age: 21 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,883 Location: FLORISSANT MO User is: OffLine	Re: Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? Every Manual Trans Has A Pilot Bearing Or Bushing
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06-25-2008, 11:44 AM	#4
The Stunningman V8 AWD member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,245 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? I could see the vibration from the clutch locking off-center doing all kinds of damage. You absolutley need a pilot bushing.
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06-25-2008, 06:24 PM	#5
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06-25-2008, 07:15 PM	#6
xtrememeasures10 Xtreme Measures Age: 22 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,378 Location: St Louis Area User is: OffLine	Re: Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? Quote: Originally Posted by meyers2211 could be a good reason why i'm blowing slave cylinders, 500lbs of torque twists the input and starts rubbing on the slave get one in there quick dude. my transmission was destroyed by a bad pilot bearing.
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06-26-2008, 12:32 PM	#8
xtrememeasures10 Xtreme Measures Age: 22 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,378 Location: St Louis Area User is: OffLine	Re: Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? Quote: Originally Posted by meyers2211 where did u get one, i think i will head to the dealership for this one came in the clutch kit. Youll need a puller to get it out.
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06-26-2008, 09:05 PM	#9
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06-26-2008, 09:08 PM	#10
1fast4by Buick drivin 4by draggin Age: 25 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,756 Location: Green Hills/Nashville User is: OffLine	Re: Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? Yea, If you dont have one at all, Im surprised that thing lasted 2 miles
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06-30-2008, 01:21 AM	#11
meyers2211 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,717 Location: Lindenhurst NY User is: Online	Re: Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? it lasted for over 12k miles, and 3k of that at over 500lbs of torque when boosted.. I bought one today but its just a bushing, did u guys get a needle bearing unit or a solid steel bushing?
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06-30-2008, 08:32 PM	#12
tippmann243 the youngest has been Age: 21 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,883 Location: FLORISSANT MO User is: OffLine	Re: Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? Quote: Originally Posted by meyers2211 it lasted for over 12k miles, and 3k of that at over 500lbs of torque when boosted.. I bought one today but its just a bushing, did u guys get a needle bearing unit or a solid steel bushing? **** pilot bearings those things are the biggest piece of shit ever invented. get a BRASS pilot BUSHING and call it a day
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06-30-2008, 09:56 PM	#13
The Stunningman V8 AWD member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,245 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? Theres also an adapter which GM calls an insert you will need if converting from a A/T engine.
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The Stunningman V8 AWD member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,245 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? Funny thing on this subject though is I had a guy bring me his 2.5 S10 that he uses to pull all kinds of junk to the iron metal place to me to change the clutch about 2 months ago. He said it had just had a new clutch put in about a year before. Well I pulled the transmission and it lookied like someone had shaved their cat in side the bellhousing hairlike strands everywhere. The whole front of the disc was exposed to the rivets. It had an insert but no pilot bushing at all. I'm guessing the prior mechanic pulled it and forgot to replace it.
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07-03-2008, 02:31 PM	#15
xtrememeasures10 Xtreme Measures Age: 22 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,378 Location: St Louis Area User is: OffLine	Re: Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? My pilot bearing is oil impregnated bronze. I dont think roller bearings are a great idea in that environment. Its too dirty and dusy with the clutch dust getting in there.
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07-04-2008, 12:15 AM	#16
tippmann243 the youngest has been Age: 21 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,883 Location: FLORISSANT MO User is: OffLine	Re: Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? Quote: Originally Posted by xtrememeasures10 My pilot bearing is oil impregnated bronze. I dont think roller bearings are a great idea in that environment. Its too dirty and dusy with the clutch dust getting in there. ok lets set this straight a pilot BUSHING is a solid chunk of brass or bronze a pilot BEARING is a unit that has needle bearings in it. its an actual bearing where the two half's can spin seperatly
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07-04-2008, 01:37 AM	#17
xtrememeasures10 Xtreme Measures Age: 22 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,378 Location: St Louis Area User is: OffLine	Re: Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? Quote: Originally Posted by tippmann243 ok lets set this straight a pilot BUSHING is a solid chunk of brass or bronze a pilot BEARING is a unit that has needle bearings in it. its an actual bearing where the two half's can spin seperatly Thats just two different types of bearings. There are three different types, plain, ball and roller. Whats commonly known as a pilot bushing is infact a pilot bearing its a plain bearing. Just like crankshafts have plain bearings. The oil impregnated bronze heats up and oil seeps out of the metal.
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07-04-2008, 12:07 PM	#18
meyers2211 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,717 Location: Lindenhurst NY User is: Online	Re: Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? ok well i went down to my local race shop and ordered a Ram Pilot bearing, which is roller bearings, for 18 bucks i get a good name so i threw the crappy bushing out
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xtrememeasures10 Xtreme Measures Age: 22 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,378 Location: St Louis Area User is: OffLine	Re: Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? w/e works man there all going to eventually wear out. good luck. How'd you get the old one out? Mine was a pain in the ass to get out. I had to machine a puller. Quote: Originally Posted by meyers2211 ok well i went down to my local race shop and ordered a Ram Pilot bearing, which is roller bearings, for 18 bucks i get a good name so i threw the crappy bushing out
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07-07-2008, 07:29 PM	#20
meyers2211 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,717 Location: Lindenhurst NY User is: Online	Re: Do nv3500 4.3l 5spd have pilot bearings? i never had one in there... ever, i've only had the truck for a little over a year...explains why the last owner went threw 2 transmissions. i bought a moroso SBC one today, they never ordered my ram but swapped it out for a needle bearing moroso.
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