Waylayed Chrome Booster/Master combo with 20s

[MeltingPlastic]

So i just ordered my waylayed chrome booster and master combo. Along with the Disc/Disc prop valve and the 2nd gen rod adapter. Along with going with the smaller booster i have all the parts to do a rear disc swap.

The problem i'm finding is that no one has really given a good overview of how they felt the performance was with booster and master as most responses are all over, some hate it some love it etc. What is everyone's experience with them and 20" billets? or anything comparable weight wise.

I know there's a thread about adjusting the booster rod to work with the stock master but does this need to be done when using both of waylayed's parts?

don't tell me to search.. i did... i'm just looking for straight answers not garbled posts

[iRIDElow]

im also interest in seeing some comments ive looked and cant find much of a solid answer either

thanks

[andocommando]

Quote: Originally Posted by MeltingPlastic

So i just ordered my waylayed chrome booster and master combo. Along with the Disc/Disc prop valve and the 2nd gen rod adapter. Along with going with the smaller booster i have all the parts to do a rear disc swap.

Thank you for your purchase

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The problem i'm finding is that no one has really given a good overview of how they felt the performance was with booster and master as most responses are all over, some hate it some love it etc. What is everyone's experience with them and 20" billets? or anything comparable weight wise.

i have 20x8.5 chrome wheels, a 98 xcab 4.3 auto. 5 link, SD amrs, about that heaviest you can get haha, And my booster stops fine. it did take some adjusting to get it there, but it does stop well enough for me. Does it stop like stock? no it doesnt, you do have to stand on it a little bit harder, and mine has yet to lock up the wheels, and i dont think it will, but ive put about 1,000 miles on it and the brakes have done just fine. sometimes in the mornings or when its the first time i go out, the first push is a little light and it takes a while to stop but after that it is fine. I think it is more of a problem with my whole system than the booster itself, as i have already fixed one vacuum leak and i do not have the vacuum box that is in the fender.
You usually ride back a few cars length from people anyway, so its not like im slamming on and locking up my brakes all the time, but the booster and master does its job for stopping my truck

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I know there's a thread about adjusting the booster rod to work with the stock master but does this need to be done when using both of waylayed's parts?

don't tell me to search.. i did... i'm just looking for straight answers not garbled posts

if you are talking about the adjustment on the engine bay side of the booster, then yes this will need to be adjusted until the nut is almost touching the master when you bolt it on. Youll need some pliers and a 8mm and heat it and bend the wrench to get it down in there. this took me a little bit before i get it to right where it needed to be.

if you bought the rod adapter from us, then that should just go right on the cab side of the booster. measure the distance on the stock booster, from the back of the booster until the center of the eyehole, and the make sure that is the same distance when you put the adapter on to our booster. and locktite would help as well as wrenchin it down so that it cant spin

[layNrkr]

just have to adapt they do just fine

[AVTekk]

It will def not stop as good as stock, the booster is just too small to provide enough pressure. It should stop 'ok' tho as long as the booster doesnt go bad. Not that Ive heard of his going bad, but I have one right now thats a 7" dual chrome booster and its bad.

[blazerxtreme18]

damn i was gunna swap to the waylayed booster but with a cpp master cylinder but how much worse does it stop...??

[AVTekk]

worse than stock! def wont be better thats for sure

[MeltingPlastic]

I'm not worried about pin point stopping... stopping in the truck with the 20s sucks as it is right now with the drum rear. so as long as it stops close to that i can deal. Its not daily driven but id still like to not have to worry if you catch my drift....

And yea i read the whole thing with the bending of the wrench.. guess i'll be picking up a cheap harbor freight wrong haha

[blazerxtreme18]

damn it seriously makes me doubt swapping out my booster if its not gunna stop for shit....i might just delete the abs and keep all my other stuff booster/master

[MeltingPlastic]

alfie if ur not going to be driving the blazer everyday i wouldn't worry... like i said, right now my truck stops like shit with the drum rear and 20s, i'm pretty sure itll prolly stop a little better once i put the disc rear and the prop valve in with this master/booster combo

[Geat]

IMO, I would go hydroboost. I have not lost any brake power, at times it takes a little bit more to push down at first, but I can lock my wheels up. 245/35/20

[goldenrider18]

yea i run with the waylayed booster and stock master with abs and i do have to stand on it at times bc were i live we have many idoits that like to slam on there brakes just so they dont hit a squirrel but mine stops decent defenitly way different from stock but i drive my truck dailey so it did take some getting used to

[goldenrider18]

Quote: Originally Posted by Geat

IMO, I would go hydroboost. I have not lost any brake power, at times it takes a little bit more to push down at first, but I can lock my wheels up. 245/35/20

yea r dodge has a hydro sometimes its hard to push but it stops un a dime

What did u get yours out of Geat

[AVTekk]

Should have got the JM5 first gen booster or hydra boost for sure.

[cpolaris502]

JM5 booster here. I didn't notice any difference from the stock one. That's what Id recommend for you, Alphie.

[Something Different]

Not a fan of the chrome booster yeah they look a little nicer under the hood but I have one in my bodied dime w / 18's and its terrible and has gone from bad to worse...I would def go w hydro booster

[MeltingPlastic]

welp too late now... if i don't like the feeling i'll pick up a JM5 booster..

[dirttysouth]

Quote: Originally Posted by MeltingPlastic

welp too late now... if i don't like the feeling i'll pick up a JM5 booster..

JM5 is even worse...only way you'll get better is hydro

[blazerxtreme18]

Quote: Originally Posted by cpolaris502

JM5 booster here. I didn't notice any difference from the stock one. That's what Id recommend for you, Alphie.

word im gunna wait till i see whats actually hitting when im aired out..if i hit my booster i will switch to the jm5 thanks cory...o yea its alfie lol you were close though..

[goldenrider18]

well i drive my friends s10 today and remebered how good mine used to break so im going to hydro

[GCash]

i've swaped out a waylayed booster for a jm5 unit on a customers truck and the customer noticed a big improvement so he has a waylayed booster for sale if anyone is interested

[n0sh0b0i]

So does this mean the Waylayedinc brake boosters doesn't do a good job stopping? I ordered a brake booster from them but haven't tried it out yet since I'm still trying to finish my bd... I have 20's and if it ain't gonna do a good job stopping, I'm gonna go a different route.

[goldenrider18]

if i didnt drive my truck everyday i would be fine with how it stops i mean it stops good but you have to stand on it to do so

[goldenrider18]

hey dirty south are yall still sellin those rod adapters

[AVTekk]

Quote: Originally Posted by dirttysouth

JM5 is even worse...only way you'll get better is hydro

Completely false information. A JM5 booster is a STOCK booster from the factory, they stop like stock, simple as that.

Quote: Originally Posted by n0sh0b0i

So does this mean the Waylayedinc brake boosters doesn't do a good job stopping?

Yes, but its not the 'waylayed' boosters, its all 7" boosters. There just isnt enough surface area in the diaphragms to provide the same stopping power as stock.

[cpolaris502]

Quote: Originally Posted by blazerxtreme18

word im gunna wait till i see whats actually hitting when im aired out..if i hit my booster i will switch to the jm5 thanks cory...o yea its alfie lol you were close though..

Gahhhh. Maybe next time lol.

[Aftershoxxx]

i've used the waylayed and the jm5 on my 94, the waylayed doesnt stop as good as my 03 no but with a lil adjustment i didnt notice any difference between it and the jm5. i still recommend it for people that dont wanna do hydroboost

[andocommando]

Quote: Originally Posted by n0sh0b0i

So does this mean the Waylayedinc brake boosters doesn't do a good job stopping? I ordered a brake booster from them but haven't tried it out yet since I'm still trying to finish my bd... I have 20's and if it ain't gonna do a good job stopping, I'm gonna go a different route.

it does a fine job stopping. like i said before, it doesnt stop like a factory brake boosters, its half the size, but when adjusted right it will stop an s10 just fine. only other thing with the same clearance would be a hydro boost, and its a bit more work, and can be more expensive

if they 7'' boosters were that bad, you wouldnt see 90% of hot rods running them, thing is they take the time to adjust them as where most minitruckers just throw them on there and expect them to work

[dirttysouth]

Quote: Originally Posted by AVTekk

Completely false information. A JM5 booster is a STOCK booster from the factory, they stop like stock, simple as that.

Thats just the feedback we have received from customers man

[dirttysouth]

Quote: Originally Posted by goldenrider18

hey dirty south are yall still sellin those rod adapters

Yes

[PinkNoma]

I run a JM5 with 20s. Other than having my stock eyelit welded onto it, it was a direct bolt on. It clears the tire by less than 1/2". Brakes good and you can order a fresh one from a parts store. I read around a little bit, and it seemed like the only way to go. I'm happy with it, and my daily driver (what I'm used to actually driving) is a bone stock 2nd gen.

[sadexcuse4s10]

my blue truck stopped fine with a single 7" diaphram and hotrod master cylinder. And i made sure to keep the vacuum ball, no sense in starving the booster of vacuum when it needs it.

20's and a 2.2 worked pretty well and would lock the tires up if i stood on it under 50 mph.




now i have a dual 7" with hotrod MC and 22's and i'm curious if the truck will stop well enough to drive with the weight of the wheels and smallblock. if not it's hydroboost time

[n0sh0b0i]

the only reason i am concerned is that I live on a steep hill and when i get done with my bd and run it, i don't want to be rolling down the hill with poor braking.

[beaniebmx]

lay it out and drag frame, youll stop faster

[Geat]

Quote: Originally Posted by beaniebmx

lay it out and drag frame, youll stop faster

haha no way. You would slide forever. Your tires can generate a lot more friction on the road.

[sadexcuse4s10]

true, drag that frame enough and it gets to be like a slick snowboard

[n0sh0b0i]

the hill is pretty steep and then intersects with the main road... a little 5 year old girl that used to live across the road from me rhode her bike down the hill and couldn't stop...its a good thing when she crossed the main road she didn't get swiped by a car...instead she went head on with a parked F-150tailgate and left a big dent in it...imagine if i had my truck and couldn't stop, i don't think there would be any way to avoid an oncoming car