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Extended cab or no cab.
Age: 24
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Location: Otsego, MN User is: OffLine |
*Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
I have read before about the oils that are passed through EDC's not being very compatable with the polycarbonate bowls of some water traps. It breaks them down over time.
Yesterday I exprierienced this for myself. My truck was parked at work all day in the sun (90* outside) and I had about 180psi in the tank. I came out after work and noticed I had 0 psi in the tank. When I got out I saw pieces of the water trap everywhere. It exploded! I don't know why it didn't just crack and leak but looking at the pictures, you can see the mes it made. The tabs that held the metal shield on were all bent too. This was on my truck for about 1.5 years. I bought a replacement to get the truck home but will be finding a metal one soon. Check it out. ![]() ![]()
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Ford guy stuck w/ chebby
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,053
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Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
the same thing for oil catch cans, guys are going out buying compressor air/water separators and they are not designed for this type of use! I wish you well on the fix and all. Love the blazer man.
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Registered User
Age: 29
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,051
Location: point pleasant wv User is: Online |
Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
a friend of mine had one of them do the same thing
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We Bend Stainless
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
Milton makes a really good 250 psi all metal one with 1/2" ports.
their part number is 1020-8 |
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 473
Location: Manhattan User is: OffLine |
Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
An dont forget.Anything w/ a sight gauge is most likely polycarbonate an will do the same thing.
Had this happen to me w/ a WATTS filter.Was pissing oil everywhere under pressure. Metal bowl an casing all the way. |
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I'm on a boat
Age: 25
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 10,029
Location: central AR User is: OffLine |
Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
We suggest the Rockstar ones be mounted as far away from the EDC as possible and havent had any trouble with them yet, but with this temperature well over the 100's I know its gonna be tough on all components
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,650
Location: NE, Arkansas User is: OffLine |
Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 473
Location: Manhattan User is: OffLine |
Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
thats why i run metal bowl.Live an learn the hard way
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Lifted 2wd & Bodied 4x4
Age: 27
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 13,302
Location: Cedar Lake, IN User is: OffLine |
Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
Just had this happen to me with mine... Rockstar 1/2" trap
Was gonna call WayLayed to see if there is any kind of warranty on it but it sounds like probably not. My tank stays at 200 and this morning all of a sudden there's a bang/hiss sound like a gunshot. I immediately knew it was my truck but thought it was a bag blown (which threw me for a total loop because I have Slam bags and they don't rub or anything). Turns out the bowl has a huge crack down one whole side of it Ando or Dirty... is there anything you guys can do about this? I do have an EDC but I have 6 feet of braided stainless line plus another 4-6 feet of regular airline before the trap, plus my truck has been lifted for over a month and a half and the compressor has maybe ran once every other week since my tank holds air and I don't drop it. So the actual fail today was most likely not related to excessive heat |
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Registered User
Age: 31
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 176
Location: Fairfield, OH User is: OffLine |
Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
I dont have a water trap on my EDC system.. but now I know what to get when I add one.
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Ridin' on Twankies
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 3,473
Location: Conyers Ga User is: OffLine |
Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
i have an SMC one under the hood of mine, the one that actually came with the airlift EDC kit.
It says clearly on the side, max pressure 145psi. I have a 135 psi pressure switch on mine, the EDC kit has been on the truck since like 2003. same water/oil trap, same bowl. Maybe you guys are running too much pressure through yours? just a thought. |
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Lifted 2wd & Bodied 4x4
Age: 27
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 13,302
Location: Cedar Lake, IN User is: OffLine |
Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
From what I found it doesn't seem that the SMC one uses a Polycarbonate bowl, but one made of either glass (doubt it) or some other type of plastic.
Either way, I'm sure it's a combination of the heat, pressure, and possibly reactive elements within the oil that cause the Poly bowls to fail Best bet is to just get an all-metal one. The Milton 1020-8 that J Drummond Service Inc recommended seems to be the best option |
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YOU ARE GAY
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,747
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Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
I had on do this but it was from the cold weather. I had it sitting in the parking lot at work in December and when the comps started pumping hot air bang it ****ing blew while I was driving down the road.
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We Bend Stainless
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,788
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Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
I went to the K Tool show last year after shopping for a water trap that was rated at 200 psi... The traps rated for that kind of pressure are well into the hundreds of dollars range and I didn't want to spend that. The guy at the Devil Biss booth recommended that I check out the Milton booth so I did. I spoke to the rep and he recommended their 1020-8, die cast aluminum bowl and told me that the pressure rating of 150psi only pertained to ones produced with a site glass. I ordered mine for around $35. In my eyes - die cast aluminum > poly/glass ability to stand up to heat/cold/oil... just my opinion... it's the trap to use.
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dickfore FTW!
Age: 29
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 7,020
Location: CT User is: Online |
Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
Are the Metal SMC alright to run. Ive got two on my setup. One under the hood and one on the tank. Overkill, possibly but ohwell
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Registered User
Age: 31
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 176
Location: Fairfield, OH User is: OffLine |
Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
My pressure switch comes on at 160 and below and kicks off at 190.. so maybe I shouldn't get a water trap unless I find one that can handle the pressure
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YOU ARE GAY
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,747
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Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 473
Location: Manhattan User is: OffLine |
Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
Yeah i had a WATTS metal bowl thinking i was good.It had what i thought was a glass sight guage.Nope dam poly,got hot an melted had oil pissing all over my engine conpartment. I ended up finding a metal bolt by Coilhouse rated to 350psi.I run my york at 300-325 sometimes a bit higher not a problem
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Registered Asshole
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,056
Location: Pittsburgh User is: OffLine |
Re: *Warning* to those with an EDC and plastic/polycarbonate water trap
some SMC's are all metal. qualityairride sells the all metal ones. grainger sells poly |
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