Viair Is Awesome!!!

[blu99dime]

nice to see this is a sticky now. keep up the good work lance!

[Derek1387]

Lance, i called you thursday about my 460 stopping puttingo ut pressure... check your PM plz and let me know what you want me to do

[lowridinkid]

I always loved viair, until now. My new 480 crapped out after only a couple of days my other 2 year old 480 is still goin tho..

[lance_martz]

Quote: Originally Posted by lowridinkid

I always loved viair, until now. My new 480 crapped out after only a couple of days my other 2 year old 480 is still goin tho..

If its new, get me a copy of your receipt, and lets get it in for an inspection! There's no reason you shouldn't have a good, long service life from your VIAIR. Still, no one is perfect, and things can happen. -That's when the money you spent means most, when customer service takes over.

Please get a copy of your receipt to me, so I can issue you a return number and we can take a look into your issue.

[lance_martz]

Quote: Originally Posted by Derek1387

Lance, i called you thursday about my 460 stopping puttingo ut pressure... check your PM plz and let me know what you want me to do

PM relied to!

[lance_martz]

**replied**

[nolowis2low]

whats the chances on ure pressure switches going out? i was filling up my tank today and before i know it i was almost to 200psi! its only a 150psi switch.

[lance_martz]

Quote: Originally Posted by nolowis2low

whats the chances on ure pressure switches going out? i was filling up my tank today and before i know it i was almost to 200psi! its only a 150psi switch.

Its not normal, but it can happen.
You are using a safety valve on your tank aren't you?

If not, please get one!

On a 150 PSI system you should be using a 175 PSI safety valve.

[nolowis2low]

naw i have yet to get a safety valve, but i need one . i was trying to find one locally. but iam about to go drain my tank and fill it up to see what happens. let u know then.

[nolowis2low]

welp just filled it up, and still the same, had to stop it at 160. this just doesnt make sense to me.....iam confused, i thought if they failed it wouldnt turn the comps on at all.

[lance_martz]

Quote: Originally Posted by nolowis2low

welp just filled it up, and still the same, had to stop it at 160. this just doesnt make sense to me.....iam confused, i thought if they failed it wouldnt turn the comps on at all.

Keep running it... if you see 170 PSI and it doesn't shut down, then you'll need to check your setup, or replace your pressure switch. -Yes, they can fail "ON".

Typically, there is up to a 3% margin of error allowed in the pressure switch as well as air pressure gauges. That means there could be up to a 6% margin of error if they are both errant in one direction (up or down). In a 150 PSI gauge and pressure switch, 6% equals up to 4.5 PSI in either direction. I would still give it another 10 to 15 PSI on top of that to determine if there is truly a problem or not.

This one time run up to 170 PSI isn't going to damage your compressor.

[nolowis2low]

ill run it up to 170 to make shure, but whats it take to get a savety valve from ya?

[lance_martz]

Quote: Originally Posted by nolowis2low

ill run it up to 170 to make shure, but whats it take to get a savety valve from ya?

A phone call and a credit card.. They're about $6 plus shipping.

[nolowis2low]

ill try to give u a call when i wake in the morn. iam gonna need one for 175, and iam gonna go ahead and get the 205 for when i upgrade to the 480's. looks like the 492 is gonna be a little to much for me right now.

Also does the 480 have a larger leader hose than the 450?

[lance_martz]

Quote: Originally Posted by nolowis2low

iam gonna need one for 175, and iam gonna go ahead and get the 205 for when i upgrade to the 480's. looks like the 492 is gonna be a little to much for me right now.

You will want to use the 250 PSI safety valve for your 480Cs, blow off pressure of 205 PSI is too close to 200 PSI. You don't want your tank bleeding off all the time.

Quote: Originally Posted by nolowis2low

Also does the 480 have a larger leader hose than the 450?

Yes, 450C has a 1/4" NPT leader hose and the 480C has a 3/8" NPT leader hose.

[nolowis2low]

welp i ended up getting a switch off a customer at work. back to running safetly now. but now iam bedatting on getting another 5gal tank and a pair of 480's. running the 450's and 480's till 150psi and the 450's kick off and the 480's continue to 200psi.

think 12 gallons on 4 comps is to much? Prolly overkill on the number of comps. but id like very fast fill times.

[bagged-s106link]

i had a dual pack 480 that i bought at itb last year and i took all the stickers and warnings off of it and one went out the wires totally fried. i called you and you said ship it to u and we'll see...... i sent it on a thursday and monday i had the ups man stop at my house i was like no way that can't be my compressor and sure enough it was you guys ROCK i will never do business with any other compressor company as long as i have bags


dave

[leadsled2020]

hey lance I got a crappy leader hose on a 380 that I've had for a while now... whats it going to cost me to get a new one.... the crimped swivel fitting up by the head leaks and is bleeding pressure off the tank...

[Derek1387]

wanted to reitterate hoe much lance kicks ass You hooked me up lance. I appreciate it

viair for the MFin win!!!

[lance_martz]

Quote: Originally Posted by leadsled2020

hey lance I got a crappy leader hose on a 380 that I've had for a while now... whats it going to cost me to get a new one.... the crimped swivel fitting up by the head leaks and is bleeding pressure off the tank...

Please PM me your address, with a description of what happened.

[lance_martz]

Quote: Originally Posted by Derek1387

wanted to reitterate hoe much lance kicks ass You hooked me up lance. I appreciate it

viair for the MFin win!!!

I'm glad you are happy Derek, after all - that's what any company should strive to do. Thanks for trusting in VIAIR compressors to keep your air suspension setup working to your expectations.

[tyson_cbr]

hey lance my 380 takes rite around 15 min to pump 150psi into a 5 gal tank, plus every once in awhile the new leader hose i just bought likes to let the air go out of the filter hole of my compressor, i guess the check valve in it doesnt work sometimes cause when it happens it lets ALL my air out and i have to sit and wait 15 minutes for my comp to fill my tank to just 100 psi so i can get the truck off the ground. Slow comp and a bad leader hose is no fun, I got the hose from Suicidedoors.com brand new like 2 months ago. What should i do?

[lance_martz]

Quote: Originally Posted by tyson_cbr

hey lance my 380 takes rite around 15 min to pump 150psi into a 5 gal tank, plus every once in awhile the new leader hose i just bought likes to let the air go out of the filter hole of my compressor, i guess the check valve in it doesnt work sometimes cause when it happens it lets ALL my air out and i have to sit and wait 15 minutes for my comp to fill my tank to just 100 psi so i can get the truck off the ground. Slow comp and a bad leader hose is no fun, I got the hose from Suicidedoors.com brand new like 2 months ago. What should i do?

How old is the compressor itself? You should look into rebuilding the compressor. No leader hose is going to bring the performance back to that unit...

Do you have a receipt for the hose? If so, please email me a copy of it. (lancem@viaircorp.com). I don't mind replacing the hose, but I would like to see a copy of your receipt please.

[lance_martz]

Quote: Originally Posted by arickdm

Quote: Originally Posted by lance_martz

Quote: Originally Posted by arickdm

i need a rod and piston kit, cylinder wall, and leader hose with check valve for my viair 450c. could i order these parts from you? and how much would it be?

Before you order, I have to know some specific information about the pump, but I can get that from you when you call to order.

Okay thanks!
I will go ahead and order those parts then. What do I need to do?

Give me a call with a valid credit card number in hand to place the order. Parts must be shipped to your billing address.
Please remind me that you're from S10 Forum, since the prices I have provided are discounted as a courtesy from me. It helps to have your compressor with you when you call, since I will have to check a few things to determine the correct parts for your rebuild.

Arickdm - you are not accepting PM messages, or your in box is full. Hopefully you see this message.

[wileycoyote]

whats up lance, qucik question on a 480, my duals are filling my 8 gal from 165-200 in just over 3 minutes. could this be a bad check valve? am I able to take both off, run to tee, then water trap, and one check on take?? I want to run both compressors to one port, will this effect them bad, whats best way to do it so I dont hurt them. thanks for the help buddy.

JT

[lance_martz]

Quote: Originally Posted by wileycoyote

whats up lance, qucik question on a 480, my duals are filling my 8 gal from 165-200 in just over 3 minutes. could this be a bad check valve? am I able to take both off, run to tee, then water trap, and one check on take?? I want to run both compressors to one port, will this effect them bad, whats best way to do it so I dont hurt them. thanks for the help buddy.

JT

You may experience a slight reduction in flow if you T the compressors together, but it should not seriously affect performance. If you had a bad check valve, you would likely be blowing fuses.

How old are your compressors?
If it takes longer than it should to fill to a certain pressure, you may need a piston rebuild, as well as a new cylinder wall. Over time, the piston seal (which is a wear part) doesn't seal as well as it can, leading to a reduction in the amount of air that can be pumped at a time. Blow-by can be a result. Also, you will want to check your intake and exhaust valves for damage. Both can be replaced as well.

FYI -

480C Dual on an 8 gallon tank from 165-200 should take right around 2-1/2 to 3 minutes... Depending on the age and punishment you've given your pumps over time.

[wileycoyote]

FYI -

480C Dual on an 8 gallon tank from 165-200 should take right around 2-1/2 to 3 minutes... Depending on the age and punishment you've given your pumps over time.[/quote]


The compressors have only been on for about 2 months, from being brand new. I never blow fuses, maybe im just paranoid lol. Can the leader hose check valve go bad? Will removing it and running both the a tee hurt them before a check on the tank. Kinda hard to explain, just want to know if the pressure they put out will damage one another going to a tee without inline checks? Thanks agian lance

[Purplepimp]

About T-fittings
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f125/c...t-here-388350/

Oh and it doesn't say in that thread but if both compressors are connected straight to the tank the fill time would be about 2:19 FYI

[hamagc]

lol i always love looking through this thread. never do i see so many problems with certain parts but everyone so happy cause they have been taken care of in an amazing fashion.

A+, Lance, keep up the good work!

[tyson_cbr]

Quote: Originally Posted by lance_martz

How old is the compressor itself? You should look into rebuilding the compressor. No leader hose is going to bring the performance back to that unit...

Do you have a receipt for the hose? If so, please email me a copy of it. (lancem@viaircorp.com). I don't mind replacing the hose, but I would like to see a copy of your receipt please.

Well i might be able to fing the receipt, but i got it from suicidedoors.com but i may have lost the receipt not a big deal though just curious about what i should do with the comp, yeah it is kinda old so i guess ill buy a rebuild kit when i get the cash how much are they?

[lance_martz]

Tyson,

We don't sell an all-inclusive rebuild kit.
We sell individual repair parts. -This keeps you from spending more than you have to, and getting parts you really don't need. After you have done a tear down on the unit and take some photos - post them here so I can help you determine what you need to replace. -Then we'll know how much it will cost to repair it.

Don't worry, I take good care of S-10 Forum members on repair parts - ask anyone.

We'll get this sorted, no worries.

[tyson_cbr]

cool man when i get my new comp ill tear this one down and take some pics. I got another 380 coming and i wanna run a dual setup

[scootch]

hey lance, i talked to u a few months ago about some probs ive been having with my 380s. i have them mounted in my trunk and ive heard form some people that the check valves and lock open from heat and humidity here in houston. ive already replaced the complete leader hoses once and my question to you is will the heat actually affect them? my fill times are slow and the car leaks down horribly. if its at 200 psi at 12 am then when i come out to work at 730 its already leaked down to roughly 60psi. ive sprayed the whole system down with soapy water and havnt found leaks. would you say its probably the check valves again? is there a better after market check valve i can buy? im getting stressed out not being able to lift and go. thanx for your help sir.

[lance_martz]

scootch,

It could be, if you want to replace just the check valve - take a look at the SMC check valve. I've heard good things about them - but remember, nothing will last forever. I just hope it lasts longer for you.

How old are your replacement hoses/check valve?

[lance_martz]

Lots of PMs this morning!!!

All replied, thanks!

[scootch]

Quote: Originally Posted by lance_martz

scootch,

It could be, if you want to replace just the check valve - take a look at the SMC check valve. I've heard good things about them - but remember, nothing will last forever. I just hope it lasts longer for you.

How old are your replacement hoses/check valve?

i think i bought them back in nov. the compressors are only maybe a year and half old. ive heard the teflon in the SMCs have a hard time holding up. someone said i needed brass or something like that.

[scootch]

would you think something like this: 7768K22 from mcmaster carr would work?

[lance_martz]

This one sounds good, none of the others is tolerant enough to heat:

5010K62

HI-Temperature
Spring-Loaded Ball Check Valve W/Metal Seats,
Type 303 SS,
1/4" NPTF (Dryseal)Female
In stock at $59.22 Each

• Maximum Pressure: Brass: 2000 psi @ 400° F; Carbon Steel: 5000 psi @ 400° F; Type 303 Stainless Steel: 5000 psi @ 400° F
• Cracking Pressure: 1 to 2.5 psi
• Temperature Range: -14° to +400° F

[scootch]

good lord! lol wasnt really expecting to pay that much.

[lance_martz]

Quote: Originally Posted by scootch

good lord! lol wasnt really expecting to pay that much.

Did you see the prices of the other ones on that site?
Makes you wonder why they're so freakin' expensive!!!

[vio0633]

Lance...just giving you a heads up man that im moving out of FL here in a couple of weeks. I will try and call you about the rebuild parts for my 450's when I get to my new area.

[scootch]

well last time i bought the hoses i had bought an extra. i took loose the hoses at the tank to see if i could see anything inside that was causeing the checks to stay open and one of them broke apart when i tried to put them back on the tank. one went on no prob and as i was twisting the other one on, it snapped off at the treads. lucky i had a new hose sitting off to the side. i had to run over to wicked mayhem's pad to borrow another 1/4x1/2 bushing since i couldnt get the rest of the check/threads out of the one i had.

now it fill faster but ill let you know if its still leaking back through the heads. thanks for the help and yeah i saw all the prices on the others.

do you think maybe putting some cooling fans like the ones AZ has would help anything else?

[lance_martz]

Quote: Originally Posted by scootch

do you think maybe putting some cooling fans like the ones AZ has would help anything else?

Not one bit...

[scootch]

Quote: Originally Posted by lance_martz

Not one bit...

dang. sorry to keep askin questions, but do you think it would help if i mounted them underneath the car and got braided extension hoses to run into the trunk? im just trying to figure out what would be the best way to help keep them cooler. i know its hot inside the passenger dept i cant imagine how hot it gets in the trunk with no ventalation.

thanx for all your help

[lance_martz]

Quote: Originally Posted by scootch

dang. sorry to keep askin questions, but do you think it would help if i mounted them underneath the car and got braided extension hoses to run into the trunk? im just trying to figure out what would be the best way to help keep them cooler. i know its hot inside the passenger dept i cant imagine how hot it gets in the trunk with no ventalation.

thanx for all your help

As long as you remote mount the air filters in a location that is clean & dry - yes. In fact, I can't reiterate how important it is to keep debris and moisture out of your pumps at all times. It will definitely make them last longer and make rebuild intervals more spread out over time. -That's why the parts are included with every new VIAIR compressor intended for possible chassis mounting.

[bmeeks8]

Hey lance quick question for you. What is the advantage of running a pressure switch over a reg switch? I know what the pressure switch does but is it better for the compressor?

[scootch]

ok one more for you. my pressure switch was leaking from the gaps between the terminals and the plasticand it wasn't shutting the comps down like it should. so i replaced the pressure switch and they still are not shutting off like they used to. i can still flip my killswitch for them and they start right back up at 200 psi. could my relays be bad? is their a right and wrong way to wire to the terminals of the p switch? im starting to get super aggrivated with my set up. PLEASE HELP?!?!?!?!?! thanks in advance

[jwillie000]

hey lance dont know if you care or not but this dude is linking back to your site and not even running viars for sale .looks likem tho
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-2...fAccess ories

[lance_martz]

Quote: Originally Posted by bmeeks8

Hey lance quick question for you. What is the advantage of running a pressure switch over a reg switch? I know what the pressure switch does but is it better for the compressor?

A pressure switch will safely turn the compressor off, at a pre-determined pressure for you, whereas if you forget to turn off a manual switch - the compressor will never shut off and will continue to run until it fails, until it hits thermal overload, or the tank fails (which is a SURE WAY to get your attention)!

Running a pressure switch through a relay keeps the pressure switch from seeing high amp draw operation. Its just the best way to use a pneumatic system.

[lance_martz]

Quote: Originally Posted by scootch

ok one more for you. my pressure switch was leaking from the gaps between the terminals and the plasticand it wasn't shutting the comps down like it should. so i replaced the pressure switch and they still are not shutting off like they used to. i can still flip my killswitch for them and they start right back up at 200 psi. could my relays be bad? is their a right and wrong way to wire to the terminals of the p switch? im starting to get super aggrivated with my set up. PLEASE HELP?!?!?!?!?! thanks in advance

Check your relays for sure - something is either not wired correctly or has fused in a "connected" state.

There is no way to wire a VIAIR pressure switch incorrectly. Both terminals are "hot". -Now if the rest of your system is wired incorrectly - you're going to have problems with a system that does not operated as it should.