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Frame Laying Member
Age: 21
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,651
Location: Crest Hill,IL User is: OffLine ![]() |
Layin With a Sway bar.
There's been a bunch of talk about laying with a sway bar with shortend factory endlinks. i've heard of it, but never actually seen it done. I've read about the balljoint endlinks, but i was hoping to go a cheaper route. I have a ZQ8 Swaybar, and a 245/25/20 tire. i was playing around with it the other day with a stock endlink and it ended up bending and not laying out. I also have ART Lowers and all the way aired out, the angle of tab on the arm is completely different than the one on the sway bar layed, so do i just cut the tab off the arm and re angle it or am i gonna run into more issures. i just can't see a stock endlink workin smoothly
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SiK Intentions
Age: 100
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 643
Location: Nor Cal User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
My blazer is layd out in the front and I have my sway bar hooked with stock endlinks minus a 1/2".
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UNDER CONSTRUCTION
Age: 40
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,715
Location: San Jose,CA User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
when i had art arms i had to use hiem joints on the bottom mounted in a u shaped bracket and bushings on top. only way i could get it to work with out bending the end links.
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 285
Location: Shreveport User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
sway bars are for road racers, just get rid of it and loose all the hassel
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Center your wheels!
Age: 22
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,180
Location: Griffith, IN User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
245/25-20? New tire size?
![]() You'll have to go with the balljoint endlinks no matter what simply because of the completely different arcs of travel of the suspension vs. the sway bar ![]() |
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DeXtreme on 20/22's
Age: 21
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 3,220
Location: DFW, Texas User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
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Guru-of-Insurance-Wisdom
Age: 25
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,065
Location: Lancaster, CA - Southern California User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
keep the stock endlinks and with a zq8 swaybar i was able to flip it on my truck and lay without it binding or bending. flip your swaybar and see what happens.
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Frame Laying Member
Age: 21
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,651
Location: Crest Hill,IL User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
I'll flip it and give it a try.
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Frame Laying Member
Age: 21
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,651
Location: Crest Hill,IL User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
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Frame Laying Member
Age: 21
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,651
Location: Crest Hill,IL User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
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Registered User
Age: 20
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 159
Location: Newark, DE User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
Is driving that bad without the sway bar? I still have the front but no rear... I can definatly tell that the rear is not there.
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Center your wheels!
Age: 22
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,180
Location: Griffith, IN User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
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Guru-of-Insurance-Wisdom
Age: 25
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,065
Location: Lancaster, CA - Southern California User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
you know i took mine off after a long time of swearing by it. you can tell the difference when you make turns and on the freeway but just coasting down the street there is really no difference.
obviously with the swaybar on sides are very limited so it all ends up as personal preference as to what you want to do. mine is still off but once i'm done with everything i want to do with it i am thinking about throwing it back on. less sides for a little better handling. but i don't know yet, i'm waiting to weld my shocks on to see what that does for handling. |
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Bagged
Age: 20
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,876
Location: Canal Fulton Ohio User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
I am going to keep it, its not like its that much work. Why sacrafice it especially if hitting sides isnt your thing (I could care less about them).
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formyadidas!!!
Age: 22
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 13,150
Location: Hell User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
I Need To Find My Sway Bar, Body Roll Ftl
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Whood'a Thought
Age: 20
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,560
Location: Durant,OK User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
Pics?
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xtremefour
Age: 27
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,680
Location: cleveland User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
If you flip the sway bar you wont be able to lay out, it will bind. I use my swaybar with poly busings and shortened shafts. I can't remember but it was like 1/2 or a ful 1" i cust off, i also had to use grade 8 bolts. My stock bolts bent after awhile.
I love my swaybar helps the truck handle great. I had relocated my shocks when i first did my set up and I did not like the ride. Its all personal pref i guess.. Matt |
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Guru-of-Insurance-Wisdom
Age: 25
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,065
Location: Lancaster, CA - Southern California User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
i believe for the flipping trick to work you need the zq8 swaybar. stock endlink, nothing cut and i layed no problem. does make a difference for ride quality but i ended up ditching mine so i could play. i'll most likely put it back on. |
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This is doo doo baby!
Age: 18
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,745
Location: Marrietta/Lawrenceville, GA User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
still have mine, but i'll probably take it off later so i can hit mad sides yo!
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Hoods are overrated
Age: 25
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 9,096
Location: Lexington, NC User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
i shortened the stock endlinks on my blue truck by cutting the center tube in 1/2 and getting a shorter bolt.
worked great with stock arms and 225/35/20 tires |
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Disturbed Image Trucks
Age: 22
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,101
Location: Southington, CT User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
you definitely want to flip it and shorten the links
Last edited by lowdime96 : 04-17-2008 at 07:54 PM. |
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Dime Bagged
Age: 27
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 146
Location: Wood River,IL User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
put mine back on i didnt have to flip it like a read some people doing it body rolled pretty bad,here are some pics of what i made up with the heim joints
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Kurrupted Kreations
Age: 23
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,088
Location: Tulare, Ca User is: Online ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
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Bagged
Age: 20
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,876
Location: Canal Fulton Ohio User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
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Frame Laying Member
Age: 21
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,651
Location: Crest Hill,IL User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
x2 on the spring pocket.
and that's something i will deff. look into doing if the flipping thing dosen't work. where'd you get the heim joint from? |
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Frame Laying Member
Age: 21
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,651
Location: Crest Hill,IL User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
Trial 1
Flipped Swaybar, stock end links about 1/2-1in from laying ![]() Swaybar hit the frame ![]() Trail 2 Shortend endlinks about 3/4in ![]() ![]() ![]() It lays, i'm just concerned about the angle of the endlink, how long before that snaps? and the there's no bushing on the bottom one becasue menards didn't have long enough bolts. i have to cut them off every time i take the endlinks off. let me know what you think but im leaning the the heim joint idea. Last edited by GCash : 04-18-2008 at 12:57 PM. |
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Guru-of-Insurance-Wisdom
Age: 25
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,065
Location: Lancaster, CA - Southern California User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
crappy pics but it gives you an idea.
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bellcranks no more
Age: 20
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 22,184
Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine ![]() ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
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Guru-of-Insurance-Wisdom
Age: 25
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,065
Location: Lancaster, CA - Southern California User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
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Dime Bagged
Age: 27
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 146
Location: Wood River,IL User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
i got my heim joints from grainger they were pretty cheap they were the 3/8-24
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Disturbed Image Trucks
Age: 22
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,101
Location: Southington, CT User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
balljoints ftw
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Frame Laying Member
Age: 21
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,651
Location: Crest Hill,IL User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Layin With a Sway bar.
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