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Old 02-16-2013, 04:28 PM   #1
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Hey guys. I've got a 98 ex cab which I've owned since 2000. Right now it's dropped 5/6 running all belltech parts. Spindles, springs, leaf springs, and blocks. Love the ride. I've finally, after 8 years of static, ordered all my stuff for bagging the front. My question is, can I use my nitro drop 2 shocks that are on the front now with my bag setup? I'll be running the sd front special with Dominator 2500's and the weld in relocation kit. Current tire size is 225/60/15 on 7" wheels. This is my daily, so what ever shock will give the best ride, that's what I want.
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Quote: Originally Posted by DfntPntbll
Hey guys. I've got a 98 ex cab which I've owned since 2000. Right now it's dropped 5/6 running all belltech parts. Spindles, springs, leaf springs, and blocks. Love the ride. I've finally, after 8 years of static, ordered all my stuff for bagging the front. My question is, can I use my nitro drop 2 shocks that are on the front now with my bag setup? I'll be running the sd front special with Dominator 2500's and the weld in relocation kit. Current tire size is 225/60/15 on 7" wheels. This is my daily, so what ever shock will give the best ride, that's what I want.

they will be fine. as long as they are still good. just make sure they are able to fully compress before welding anything.
when i did my shocks. i bottomed them out, released an inch. and thats where i set them with the truck on the ground.
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With the lower shock bolt in the LCA? Or did you fab a bracket?
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lower shock mount will bolt in the lower control arm, you need a stud.

lika so

http://thorbros.com/shock-relocating...ck-stud-button
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That's the kit I was referring to. I wasn't sure if I needed to make a bracket to put the bolt through or not. Thanks.
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One more question for you guys. With my current tire size in front (225/60/15), what will I most likely need to do to lay frame? Stock uppers and lowers with power performance ball joints and 2" spindles.
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On my truck with 225/55/16's I had to flatten the hump on the stock lower control arm, and I had to ever so slightly beat back the firewall at the very top of the wheel arch. I THINK you will be ok with stock upper arms. I had to use tubular uppers to clear my v8 and headers. Your tire size is almost identical to mine.
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Cool. Thanks.
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Quote: Originally Posted by DfntPntbll
One more question for you guys. With my current tire size in front (225/60/15), what will I most likely need to do to lay frame? Stock uppers and lowers with power performance ball joints and 2" spindles.
just to be safe. Get yourself a set of the super travel ball joint made by Power performance (now Proforged) for your upper arms instead. I just dont like the idea of a stock upper balljoint trying to make that kind of angle laying out.
And if you ever go with a bigger wheel/tire combo these ball joints on your stock upper control arms will lay up to a 22" wheel/tire with drop spindles and modified lowers or tubular lowers
http://qualityairride.com/control-ar...el-ball-joints
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You think the lowers will be ok?
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Quote: Originally Posted by DfntPntbll
You think the lowers will be ok?
yup as long as you dehump them. I had dehumped lowers on my truck with 22's for a little while with PP ball joints and never had an issue
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I've got pp bjs on my uppers and lowers, but I don't think they are extended travel.
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nope. they aren't. lol. add another $100 to the bill. looks like I'll lay on inner fender for a while until I get all the stuff to lay frame.
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Quote: Originally Posted by DfntPntbll
I've got pp bjs on my uppers and lowers, but I don't think they are extended travel.
Theyre worth it and like i said if you ever decide to get big wheels you can still use those stock upper arms and the super travel bj's to lay them
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sweet. i'll look into getting them. Now gauge fittings,... I have 2 KP dual needles and 1 KP single in a 3 gauge pillar pod from glowshift. The gauges have male ends on them and I'm not sure what size they are. I want to use 1/8" PTC fittings, so do I need 1/4" NPT female or 1/8" NPT female?
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1/4 NPT ( female ) and 1/8 line connection
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http://www.newmaticsinc.com/Famale_f...s_p/109559.htm
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Yep. I purchased 5 yesterday. thanks for all the input guys.
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Sunny at newmatics just informed me that the fittings should actually be 1/8" npt female to 1/8" line. He saw that I had ordered the gauges through him and emailed me to notify me that he is correcting the order. This is exactly why I will keep going to him for my parts from here on out.
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ya know. i knew something was off a bit there. I should have mentioned the gauge fittings come in either 1/8" or 1/4" per the size of your gauges so youll need to check them
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Overall tire height needs to be under 24" I think to lay if I remember correctly. With drop spindles
But you will need to dehump the lowers, notch the lower bracket just a bit and remove frame that stops the lower from rising up. Also you will need to notch the frame for the tie rod so it doesn't bottom out on the frame as well. Or you can get a set of no notch tie rod ends.

I'm in the process of bagging my truck now. I have 18"s and people say s10 will lay with those with the inner fenders in. That's hog wash. I have to trim inside my fenders as well to get to the frame along with everything I just mentioned above. You can look at my build and see where I'm at on the pockets.
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Ok, I want to make sure I have what I need. 8 gauge wire should be fine to run my compressor right? Or should I use 6 to the fuse and distribution block (planning to get another comp later), then 8 to the compressor(s)?
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I ran 4 ga. I think most do just to be safe.
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id run 4ga 2 the block them 8ga to each but i over kill all the time
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Hell I ran 2 gauge from the battery to an 80amp relay. Can never be too careful right?
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yea plus if you need power for something else small you can grab it there
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4g from battery to 80amp stinger. 8g to comps like Retro said. Mines done the same way
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yea why people use the intricate fancy relays that come with the comps are beyond me they just over complicate things keep it simple wit a stinger its set up just like a snow plow
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stinger all the way, dont even fool with those 4 prong relays
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Where is the best place to mount this stinger? I currently am trying to clean up and fix the hack job wiring and air ride job on my 94 Sonoma that the PO had hacked to hell. Some shop supposedly did all the work to it and it looks like a 5 year old wired it and mounted everything. I plan to get new compressors, tank, air line, wiring, switch box, etc. The relays look like crap mounted to the frame next to the compressors and I'd like to use something like the Stinger.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Next to the comps.
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Took my bed off and am mocking up where I might mount my tank. Need to cut out the spare tire x-member. Only concern I have its with the ground clearance to the drain. Right now, it's at 6" and I can get another 1" of clearance. Thoughts?

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I bet you could mount it on the top side of the rail, maybe have to check the frame to bed clearance. I know my silverado had a small gap, except where the cross supports ran.
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Frame to bed is a 1-1/4" gap. That's the extra inch I was talking about. Can't quite picture what you mean by mount to the side of the rail though.
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We have the same idea, the picture looks like it is sitting bottom inside rail. So I'm saying raise it up to the bed. Only other thing might be a skinnier tank. Mine only has like 3" from my drain, only ripped it off once so far lol.
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last thing you wanna do is rip the tank open or loose your air put it up higher, then you wont beet yourself up on the side of the road
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I figured it out I think. I can build a "cradle" of sorts. 3/4" box tubing going down from the frame and mount the tank upright instead of upside down. that will allow the drain to work properly and also provide at least some little bit of protection to the tank. here's a quick photoshop of what I mean. I scaled the measurements, so everything is about the right size within 1/4"
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I know that looks good on paper but where you will run into problems is if you front is high and the rear is not. Keeping it above the Ned's rockers will make a cleaner look and keep it safe.
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You should have space to lay the box tubing on top of the frame rails and mount the tank just like you have it. BUT I am very concerned about the plug on the bottom. Below is a picture of my truck. It has a 5 gal slim and skinny tank with no ports on the top or bottom. It is sitting on either 3/4 or 1 inch box tube that is layed on top of the frame rails. It does not look like it but there is just enough gap that the tank is not touching the ground when layed out.

Is your tank a 5 gal or 3 gal? I personally would not have anything less than a 5.

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Its a 5 gallon. Didn't see the pic you referred to though.
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You're going to shorten the legs on that tank, right?
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With it being aluminum, I was hoping not to. Lol. I can't tig weld. All I have is a mig. I could eventually do it later at my work's other location, but that's at least 2-3 more weeks wait. I just cut out my spare tire x-member today.
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Well, if you can't now I would find someone who can to avoid having to get back under there later.
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Thought you'd all love to see this. Got it done today. I am extremely happy with the ride.
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I like that look. Retro/Rat Rod also like it when the rims match the trucks paint with the hub cap chrome
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Thanks. I couldn't believe how nice it rides
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Still working on mine. Got little pocket trim left and 1 lower control arm to dehump.
Then raise fuel tank and mount tank compressors, solenoids and run lines & wire.
Still wiring the v8 and need to Order my watts link, get my hydro boost brake setup and drive shaft tubes lengthened 1" on each section.
I got disc brake Gu6 for my rear .
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Nice. I still need to dehump my arms and mod my tank mounts, but I'm beyond happy.
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