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Hey guys I'm currently putting a 49 chevy truck on a reg cab long bed s10 frame. I have also purchased an ls1 and a 6 speed to go in it. I'm about to install the air ride and have some questions on the rear end setup. I would like it to lay frame with 20" wheels, my main consern is keeping the bed deep as possible and not having wheel hop durning burnouts and other shenanigans. What rear setup is best for this?? Also I'm new to air ride but have herd there is a way I can keep my stock control arms unmodified, just run drop spindles and super travel ball joint or something like that?? Currently I have bags, lines, valves, tank, compressor, and a controller. Please help me out thanks guys and peace!

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Hey guys I'm currently putting a 49 chevy truck on a reg cab long bed s10 frame. I have also purchased an ls1 and a 6 speed to go in it. I'm about to install the air ride and have some questions on the rear end setup. I would like it to lay frame with 20" wheels, my main consern is keeping the bed deep as possible and not having wheel hop durning burnouts and other shenanigans. What rear setup is best for this?? Also I'm new to air ride but have herd there is a way I can keep my stock control arms unmodified, just run drop spindles and super travel ball joint or something like that?? Currently I have bags, lines, valves, tank, compressor, and a controller. Please help me out thanks guys and peace!
I have a 47 with a 5.3 w/4L80E, my control arms were rotted so I went with tubular uppers and lowers. I also went with drop spindles that I found on craigslist. For the rears I did my own 4 link from an epay kit using S10/Blazer 4wd rear end. Depends on what rear end and tire width you use as far as bed depth goes and whether or not you want to make some inner fenders. For my setup I just used a raised bed. Lays on 18X8 no rear inner fender pockets.

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Sick ride man! I'm not set on the 20's especially since your 18's look that good. What eBay kit did you use and would you happen to have any pics of your bed? How much did you have to raise it?
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Sick ride man! I'm not set on the 20's especially since your 18's look that good. What eBay kit did you use and would you happen to have any pics of your bed? How much did you have to raise it?
My personal preference is 20's are not proportionate to the size of the truck. The kit is just a generic 4 link kit you can find on there with chrome ends and bushings, came with weld on brackets.

Bed is cherry wood with only about 5" of depth, doubt I'll ever haul anything in it...

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Nice man! So your truck is on an s10 frame? If so are you running wheels spacers in the front? And what's the offset of your wheels I do think I like the 18's better.
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there is a link to my build, and where Im at right now... still a long way to go.




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Very nice man! Iv seen your truck before, I think maybe in a YouTube vid. So what do I need up front to make it lay frame with 18's? Do I have to buy different control arms? And how much was the plate for your rear end?
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Very nice man! Iv seen your truck before, I think maybe in a YouTube vid. So what do I need up front to make it lay frame with 18's? Do I have to buy different control arms? And how much was the plate for your rear end?
Never made a YouTube video, I just started building it at the beginning of December. Really depends on what sized tires you are going to run. My 15's are 26.5" tall.

If you read my build, I have pics of everything I did up front to make my truck lay out. I dehumped my lower arms, 2in drop spindles, tubular upper arms, and cut down my spring pockets to clear my bags.
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Never made a YouTube video, I just started building it at the beginning of December. Really depends on what sized tires you are going to run. My 15's are 26.5" tall.

If you read my build, I have pics of everything I did up front to make my truck lay out. I dehumped my lower arms, 2in drop spindles, tubular upper arms, and cut down my spring pockets to clear my bags.
Ya it wasn't a vid I have read your build page before. So some ppl say yes some ppl say no but if I do exactaly what you did minus the upper control arms I should be ok right??
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Ya it wasn't a vid I have read your build page before. So some ppl say yes some ppl say no but if I do exactaly what you did minus the upper control arms I should be ok right??

Possibly... I needed them because I had clearance issues with my header when I layed out my truck...

Like I said before, it all depends on what size tires you are going to run.
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I have herd that answer alot I think I'm going to buy my wheels and tires first. Think this is a good idea?
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Also I'm new to air ride but have herd there is a way I can keep my stock control arms unmodified, just run drop spindles and super travel ball joint or something like that?? Currently I have bags, lines, valves, tank, compressor, and a controller. Please help me out thanks guys and peace!
Yes Power Performance (now Proforged) super travel ball joints will allow you to lay up to a 22" W/drop spindles I believe on stock unmodified control arms.
Figured id answer your question for you since no one had yet.

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Yes Power Performance (now Proforged) super travel ball joints will allow you to lay up to a 22" W/drop spindles I believe on stock unmodified control arms.
Figured id answer your question for you since no one had yet.
Hell ya! Straight to the point ight il order that and get my wheels then. And run the stock control arms thanks
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Do I need to buy the upper and lower super travel ball joints?
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Soo nice ! Great job
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Do I need to buy the upper and lower super travel ball joints?
the super travels are only made for the upper arms. buy regular PP bj's for your lowers they're 19 bux forr a opair

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the super travels are only made for the upper arms. buy regular PP bj's for your lowers they're 19 bux forr a opair
Thanks got them ordered man! I also ordered a triangulated 4 link. Do you think I need to have shocks in the front or back with my setup?
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^yes.

and yes.

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and yes.
Do you know any good threads that show where to mount them?
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The front you have a few choices- either some bolt-in ART relocators, or some universal, or recess them into your frame using some pipe.

Or the rear, you pretty much have options... i ran a crossmember and have them angled from my rear to the crossmember:


Thats the best pic i have of mine. But I have also seen guys run the lower shock mount off the lower 4link bar, and the upper mount off the frame.... its totally up to you

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The front you have a few choices- either some bolt-in ART relocators, or some universal, or recess them into your frame using some pipe.

Or the rear, you pretty much have options... i ran a crossmember and have them angled from my rear to the crossmember:


Thats the best pic i have of mine. But I have also seen guys run the lower shock mount off the lower 4link bar, and the upper mount off the frame.... its totally up to you
Nice! That seems easy enough. So will most shocks travel as far as I need these too or wil I have to buy a specific brand/kind?
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if you find out what collapsed height and extended height of were you want to mount them is and make friends with the guys at your local napa there book gives every spec of every shock they sell. then pick which one will work the best for you
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Yup... i thumbed through the Monroe Catalog, looked at compressed and extended lengths to find something that worked.
If you can set your compressed around 8"-8.5" you will be good to go. I messed up when I set mine, and I am around 7.75'", so my choices were really slim.


You will do the same up front. Figure out your compressed/extended lengths first, then match a shock up

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Thanks for all the info I'm getting parts in now and things are coming along nicly. I have 4 used air bags that came with my valves and controller and I'm not shure if I should try to use them or spring for a new set what do you think? Thanks guys and peace
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Here's the other there is 2 of each
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eh you can never go wrong with new bags tho
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on a second look throw them in the back for spares and buy new, slams are the way to go
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Could you be more specific? Sorry I'm new to this air ride stuff. I have been recommended re7's is this what your talking about? Also are you saying I should buy 4 new or just the front 2? If only the front 2 which ones of the old ones in the pictures should I use in the rear? Thanks for the help sorry I'm such a noobie haha
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I would keep the bags you have now as spares. Slam Specialties RE6s or 7s up front and slam re 7 or 8 or ss7 or 8 in the rear

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I would keep the bags you have now as spares. Slam Specialties RE6s or 7s up front and slam re 7 or 8 or ss7 or 8 in the rear
That's prob what il do thanks for the info. What do you recommend front and back?
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if you make an re or an ss7 fit up front you wont regret the air consumption and ride quality, and make your life easier and do all 4 corners on the same bag. slam ss7s are the way to go i m surprised they havent just stopped making the re7, its the same bag only alot better
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I agree with RE7 or SS7 in the front, it will ride amazingly better than an RE6 or similarly sized bag, but unless you are hauling a 5th wheel an RE6 will actually have a higher spring rate and higher pressure in the rear, which on the surface sounds like a bad thing till you realize an RE8 with 35 psi would be max lift in the rear. There simply isnt the weight in the back unless you are hauling stuff to need that extra volume.

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Thanks for all the help every one! I just ordered 4 ss7's and I'm already standin by the mail box. Haha
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If you are doing this swap do you have to use a long bed frame? Or is this a long bed body? Also did they even make two different bed sizes?

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If you are doing this swap do you have to use a long bed frame? Or is this a long bed body? Also did they even make two different bed sizes?
you dont have to use a longbed, although it works out on the wheelbase right away, I used a shortbed reg cab s10 and a trick another guy showed me.

here is mine, you cut off the last 11" of the frame, flip it over, and move the leaf perches back 9.5 inches (they are riveted in)




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a longbed driveshaft fits perfectly after that, you dont need to have one made.

there are TWO advantages to this way over stretching the the frame at the joint under the cab (which can also be done, or shortening it there with an ex cab)

1: the leaf perches arent hanging lower than the frame any more, so any bolt on link setup works without the "short" bars. I have an ART roadgrater on mine.

2: you can move the gas tank back and up with a gas tank relocator bracket and its no where close to ground or the axle any more.

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