sitting on bumpstops!

monkeydude3602000 · 01-14-2008, 12:41 AM

ok my over all lowering now is about 5" in the front and about 4.5" in the back. im having some serious issues with the ass end. it has 3" blocks then i removed the middle leaf. its now sitting on the bumpstop. im afraid if i cut it down it will still sit on it. will i need to cut off the bumpstop brackets lowering it this much?

btw it handels like it on rails with rigid rear suspension

shortS10owner · 01-14-2008, 12:50 AM

yep, youll want to cut both off, itll help the ride...mine was terrible untill I did, i had about an inch till i hit the brackets, and it hit on every little bump in the road and was awful, if you do cut the brackets, youll have to relocate the evap can too

ProTouring2.2 · 01-14-2008, 12:51 AM

cut the brackets off your back will thank you

then notch if you have to

relocating the charcoal canister is a good idea since that's the next thing your axle will hit if the bumpstops are gone

monkeydude3602000 · 01-14-2008, 12:55 AM

charcoal canister? i may sound like a dumass but what the hell is that?

Garage Customs · 01-14-2008, 01:23 AM

maybe he doesnt hav the carcoal canister with that 5.7 ?

RustyButTrusty · 01-14-2008, 01:31 AM

monkeydude3602000 · 01-14-2008, 02:13 PM

anyone ever tried air shocks?

monkeydude3602000 · 01-14-2008, 02:21 PM

ohh i talked to a mechanic today and he thinks i may not be able to get my suspension back by cutting the bracket of. technically i have only one leaf holding up the truck. i think it will just bottom out on the frame.

i have a 93 1st gen. the leafs are dirrerent from the new style. theres two curved leafs and one beefy straight one at the bottom. i took out the middle one so now theres only one curved leaf. should i go with a newer style leaf pack?

bmxbang · 01-14-2008, 02:27 PM

heres what i would do cut the braket off and then go from there.

greencactus3 · 01-14-2008, 02:39 PM

cut off the bracket, and if ur still bottoming, do a notch or airshocks, or add a leaf, or whatever the hell you wanna do.
but cut off the damn bracket off already

4.3Xtreme · 01-14-2008, 02:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by greenflameS10

cut the brackets off your back will thank you

then notch if you have to

relocating the charcoal canister is a good idea since that's the next thing your axle will hit if the bumpstops are gone

russell · 01-14-2008, 02:58 PM

yea, listen to us, we know

dillon_b12 · 01-14-2008, 03:10 PM

Cut it off!!! And enjoy the ride

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swamp_rat · 01-14-2008, 06:33 PM

whats the point of the charcole canister? can it be deleted?

bladehines · 01-14-2008, 06:43 PM

just a question.....

i have the same setup and my truck is roughly 1 inch off the bump stops....

why is his on the bump stops?

his leafs more worn out, shocks or what?

mine does bottom out everyonce in a while when i hit a pot hole or something......

greencactus3 · 01-14-2008, 06:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bladehines

just a question.....

i have the same setup and my truck is roughly 1 inch off the bump stops....

why is his on the bump stops?

his leafs more worn out, shocks or what?

mine does bottom out everyonce in a while when i hit a pot hole or something......

shocks can be a major factor, road condition, driving style, etc
or you might be hitting bumpstop, but they are progressive so maybe you arent noticing as much

tohoopty · 01-14-2008, 07:16 PM

just take off the charcole cannister.alot of people will move them but you can run without.ive ran without one for over 2 years.

monkeydude3602000 · 01-14-2008, 08:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by tohoopty

just take off the charcole cannister.alot of people will move them but you can run without.ive ran without one for over 2 years.

what does it do????

monkeydude3602000 · 01-14-2008, 08:13 PM

ok today i ordered some air shocks. tomarrow im going to cut off the bump stop brackets. do you think air shocks for factory ride height will bottom out and bust open? i dont want that... but all i could find that would fit on an s10 was for factory ride height. maybe i could fab up mounts to make them work???

dimerunner88 · 01-14-2008, 08:37 PM

the reason yours is sitting lower than similar drops is the v8 weight,it even adds to the weight in the rear. cut your brackets off and you should be good to go.

most mechanics don't have any experiance modifying vehicles from factory. as a mechanic myself its usually returning everything to working order in stock form.

ryo is using his airshocks on an 8 inch drop with no problems

4.3Xtreme · 01-14-2008, 09:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by dimerunner88

the reason yours is sitting lower than similar drops is the v8 weight,it even adds to the weight in the rear. cut your brackets off and you should be good to go.

most mechanics don't have any experiance modifying vehicles from factory. as a mechanic myself its usually returning everything to working order in stock form.

ryo is using his airshocks on an 8 inch drop with no problems

You sure it's 8 and not 7?

dimerunner88 · 01-14-2008, 11:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 4.3Xtreme

You sure it's 8 and not 7?

ya he says it was like 8 with the monoleaf ,blocks and shims and junk. thats with the airshocks at 0-30 psi

monkeydude3602000 · 01-15-2008, 12:22 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by dimerunner88

ya he says it was like 8 with the monoleaf ,blocks and shims and junk. thats with the airshocks at 0-30 psi

is the frame notched?

shortS10owner · 01-15-2008, 12:30 AM

yes, he has a 2.25 bolt in c notch from suicidedoors

4.3Xtreme · 01-15-2008, 01:54 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by dimerunner88

ya he says it was like 8 with the monoleaf ,blocks and shims and junk. thats with the airshocks at 0-30 psi

Oh ok, I just have never heard of anyone that low before...

greencactus3 · 01-15-2008, 02:16 AM

haha i didnt even need to respond lol
seems everyone knows whats going on with my truck

JML · 01-15-2008, 07:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by monkeydude3602000

what does it do????

charcoal canister is part of evaporative emissions system. it stores fuel vapors until your ecm tells the purge solenoid to release the fuel vapors to the engine to be burned. it keeps the fuel tank pressure low. gas in the tank creates pressure and it is released in to the engine at a specific time to relieve the pressure in the tank

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layinlow88 · 01-15-2008, 07:42 PM

haha...wow you guys

first gens dont have a charcoal canister....

4.3Xtreme · 01-16-2008, 01:31 AM

Ryo where did you move your canister to?

greencactus3 · 01-16-2008, 10:35 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 4.3Xtreme

Ryo where did you move your canister to?

and here is where it was stock

not sure if you guys with the midget beds can move it to where i moved it tho

oldskoolsdime · 01-16-2008, 03:22 PM

You can get shocks from a 1998-up s-10 with the zq8 sport suspension, they are 2" shorter for the factory 2" drop, you can do this front and back. About $30 at your favorite auto parts store.

monkeydude3602000 · 01-16-2008, 07:56 PM

ok so i got my monroe air shocks in last night. i tried to take the old ones off after work. busted off the stud where the eye monts on the bottom. so now i have only one stock shock and still sittin on bumpstops. im going to have to buy the new brackes cause the studs are welded in. bummer... now it will be like friday before i have suspension again...

01-14-2008, 12:41 AM	#1
monkeydude3602000 I just ate a honda. Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,129 Location: Princeton, Ky User is: OffLine	sitting on bumpstops! ok my over all lowering now is about 5" in the front and about 4.5" in the back. im having some serious issues with the ass end. it has 3" blocks then i removed the middle leaf. its now sitting on the bumpstop. im afraid if i cut it down it will still sit on it. will i need to cut off the bumpstop brackets lowering it this much? btw it handels like it on rails with rigid rear suspension
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01-14-2008, 12:50 AM	#2
shortS10owner that short kid Age: 19 Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,301 Location: Macon, GA User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! yep, youll want to cut both off, itll help the ride...mine was terrible untill I did, i had about an inch till i hit the brackets, and it hit on every little bump in the road and was awful, if you do cut the brackets, youll have to relocate the evap can too
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01-14-2008, 12:51 AM	#3
ProTouring2.2 Have a nice day! Age: 20 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 9,287 Location: NJ User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! cut the brackets off your back will thank you then notch if you have to relocating the charcoal canister is a good idea since that's the next thing your axle will hit if the bumpstops are gone
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01-14-2008, 12:55 AM	#4
monkeydude3602000 I just ate a honda. Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,129 Location: Princeton, Ky User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! charcoal canister? i may sound like a dumass but what the hell is that?
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01-14-2008, 01:23 AM	#5
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01-14-2008, 01:31 AM	#6
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01-14-2008, 02:13 PM	#7
monkeydude3602000 I just ate a honda. Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,129 Location: Princeton, Ky User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! anyone ever tried air shocks?
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01-14-2008, 02:21 PM	#8
monkeydude3602000 I just ate a honda. Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,129 Location: Princeton, Ky User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! ohh i talked to a mechanic today and he thinks i may not be able to get my suspension back by cutting the bracket of. technically i have only one leaf holding up the truck. i think it will just bottom out on the frame. i have a 93 1st gen. the leafs are dirrerent from the new style. theres two curved leafs and one beefy straight one at the bottom. i took out the middle one so now theres only one curved leaf. should i go with a newer style leaf pack?
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01-14-2008, 02:27 PM	#9
bmxbang this website is lame! Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,379 Location: Lees Summit MO User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! heres what i would do cut the braket off and then go from there.
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01-14-2008, 02:39 PM	#10
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 21 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,014 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! cut off the bracket, and if ur still bottoming, do a notch or airshocks, or add a leaf, or whatever the hell you wanna do. but cut off the damn bracket off already
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01-14-2008, 02:46 PM	#11
4.3Xtreme I'm a huge ass Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 10,966 Location: SE Ohio/ Nashville User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! Quote: Originally Posted by greenflameS10 cut the brackets off your back will thank you then notch if you have to relocating the charcoal canister is a good idea since that's the next thing your axle will hit if the bumpstops are gone
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01-14-2008, 02:58 PM	#12
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01-14-2008, 03:10 PM	#13
dillon_b12 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,263 Location: Kentucky User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! Cut it off!!! And enjoy the ride .
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01-14-2008, 06:33 PM	#14
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01-14-2008, 06:43 PM	#15
bladehines ASASN8 Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,617 Location: Bowling Green, KY User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! just a question..... i have the same setup and my truck is roughly 1 inch off the bump stops.... why is his on the bump stops? his leafs more worn out, shocks or what? mine does bottom out everyonce in a while when i hit a pot hole or something......
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01-14-2008, 06:56 PM	#16
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 21 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,014 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! Quote: Originally Posted by bladehines just a question..... i have the same setup and my truck is roughly 1 inch off the bump stops.... why is his on the bump stops? his leafs more worn out, shocks or what? mine does bottom out everyonce in a while when i hit a pot hole or something...... shocks can be a major factor, road condition, driving style, etc or you might be hitting bumpstop, but they are progressive so maybe you arent noticing as much
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01-14-2008, 07:16 PM	#17
tohoopty Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,058 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! just take off the charcole cannister.alot of people will move them but you can run without.ive ran without one for over 2 years.
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01-14-2008, 08:11 PM	#18
monkeydude3602000 I just ate a honda. Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,129 Location: Princeton, Ky User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! Quote: Originally Posted by tohoopty just take off the charcole cannister.alot of people will move them but you can run without.ive ran without one for over 2 years. what does it do????
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01-14-2008, 08:13 PM	#19
monkeydude3602000 I just ate a honda. Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,129 Location: Princeton, Ky User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! ok today i ordered some air shocks. tomarrow im going to cut off the bump stop brackets. do you think air shocks for factory ride height will bottom out and bust open? i dont want that... but all i could find that would fit on an s10 was for factory ride height. maybe i could fab up mounts to make them work???
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01-14-2008, 08:37 PM	#20
dimerunner88 Bah Humbug! Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 19,306 Location: Clay City,IN User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! the reason yours is sitting lower than similar drops is the v8 weight,it even adds to the weight in the rear. cut your brackets off and you should be good to go. most mechanics don't have any experiance modifying vehicles from factory. as a mechanic myself its usually returning everything to working order in stock form. ryo is using his airshocks on an 8 inch drop with no problems
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01-14-2008, 09:44 PM	#21
4.3Xtreme I'm a huge ass Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 10,966 Location: SE Ohio/ Nashville User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! Quote: Originally Posted by dimerunner88 the reason yours is sitting lower than similar drops is the v8 weight,it even adds to the weight in the rear. cut your brackets off and you should be good to go. most mechanics don't have any experiance modifying vehicles from factory. as a mechanic myself its usually returning everything to working order in stock form. ryo is using his airshocks on an 8 inch drop with no problems You sure it's 8 and not 7?
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01-14-2008, 11:07 PM	#22
dimerunner88 Bah Humbug! Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 19,306 Location: Clay City,IN User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! Quote: Originally Posted by 4.3Xtreme You sure it's 8 and not 7? ya he says it was like 8 with the monoleaf ,blocks and shims and junk. thats with the airshocks at 0-30 psi
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01-15-2008, 12:22 AM	#23
monkeydude3602000 I just ate a honda. Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,129 Location: Princeton, Ky User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! Quote: Originally Posted by dimerunner88 ya he says it was like 8 with the monoleaf ,blocks and shims and junk. thats with the airshocks at 0-30 psi is the frame notched?
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01-15-2008, 12:30 AM	#24
shortS10owner that short kid Age: 19 Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,301 Location: Macon, GA User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! yes, he has a 2.25 bolt in c notch from suicidedoors
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01-15-2008, 01:54 AM	#25
4.3Xtreme I'm a huge ass Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 10,966 Location: SE Ohio/ Nashville User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! Quote: Originally Posted by dimerunner88 ya he says it was like 8 with the monoleaf ,blocks and shims and junk. thats with the airshocks at 0-30 psi Oh ok, I just have never heard of anyone that low before...
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01-15-2008, 02:16 AM	#26
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 21 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,014 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! haha i didnt even need to respond lol seems everyone knows whats going on with my truck
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01-15-2008, 07:33 PM	#27
JML Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 124 Location: Columbia, TN User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! Quote: Originally Posted by monkeydude3602000 what does it do???? charcoal canister is part of evaporative emissions system. it stores fuel vapors until your ecm tells the purge solenoid to release the fuel vapors to the engine to be burned. it keeps the fuel tank pressure low. gas in the tank creates pressure and it is released in to the engine at a specific time to relieve the pressure in the tank Quoted from another site
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01-15-2008, 07:42 PM	#28
layinlow88 GET LAYED!! Age: 19 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,946 Location: Camden, AR User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! haha...wow you guys first gens dont have a charcoal canister....
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01-16-2008, 01:31 AM	#29
4.3Xtreme I'm a huge ass Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 10,966 Location: SE Ohio/ Nashville User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! Ryo where did you move your canister to?
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01-16-2008, 10:35 AM	#30
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 21 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,014 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! Quote: Originally Posted by 4.3Xtreme Ryo where did you move your canister to? and here is where it was stock not sure if you guys with the midget beds can move it to where i moved it tho
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01-16-2008, 03:22 PM	#31
oldskoolsdime Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 47 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! You can get shocks from a 1998-up s-10 with the zq8 sport suspension, they are 2" shorter for the factory 2" drop, you can do this front and back. About $30 at your favorite auto parts store.
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01-16-2008, 07:56 PM	#32
monkeydude3602000 I just ate a honda. Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,129 Location: Princeton, Ky User is: OffLine	Re: sitting on bumpstops! ok so i got my monroe air shocks in last night. i tried to take the old ones off after work. busted off the stud where the eye monts on the bottom. so now i have only one stock shock and still sittin on bumpstops. im going to have to buy the new brackes cause the studs are welded in. bummer... now it will be like friday before i have suspension again...
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