Odd Question...

One Bad S-10 · 10-29-2009, 12:38 AM

I have an '85 4x4 Standard cab short bed that I want to turn into a 2wd dropped with a V8. Can I just take the 2wd suspension off a 2wd truck and bolt it onto mine?

Nick

Nitemare · 10-29-2009, 03:01 AM

nope by a 2wd truck

One Bad S-10 · 10-30-2009, 12:06 AM

Really!!??

No way huh?? That sucks!

Nick

baggedzq8 · 10-30-2009, 01:05 AM

if you pm me the measurements of your spindles from ball joint to ball joint i can measure my 2wd spindles and see if its the same height..

i always wondered if you wanted to remove the 4x4 stuff, if you could just put 2wd drop spindles and 3" drop keys and a 5in drop

baggedzq8 · 10-30-2009, 01:05 AM

if you dont understand what i mean pm me and ill draw you a pic and email it to you

Nitemare · 10-30-2009, 03:50 AM

not gonna werk

One Bad S-10 · 10-30-2009, 03:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by baggedzq8

if you pm me the measurements of your spindles from ball joint to ball joint i can measure my 2wd spindles and see if its the same height..

i always wondered if you wanted to remove the 4x4 stuff, if you could just put 2wd drop spindles and 3" drop keys and a 5in drop

Um I could do that.

I was also wondering if I could just remove all the 4x4 stuff and put some coil springs and shocks in there and call it done. But I figure that it would be easier to just get 2wd a arms and spindles and bolt those in.....

Nitemare your so fixed on this any explanation? or are you just positive that this doesn't work. 2wd truck are kind of hard to come by in Colorado and I'm rather cheap and don't need a 14th truck on my property

Nick

neo71665 · 10-30-2009, 03:51 PM

A 4x4 can be converted over to 2wd but its a ton of work and more headache than its worth. The 2wd spindles or a-arms are no where close to fitting the 4x4 frame. Even with you managing to convert it over you will still have to treat it as a 4x4 with the swap parts. You can get rid of the t-bars but the closest thing to coils you will find to fit are coil overs and the kit is about $900, designed for typhoons and syclones. You have to part out the front cv axles and run the outta part in the spindle but will get rid of the front diff.

Just find a 2wd frame if your so attached to the body and swap that over. Even better find a bravada t-case and front axle and make a AWD v8. Another option is to find lowering keys and just lower the 4x4, I think you can safely go down almost 4 inches before the front axles start with binding problems from being too low.

lee-mill · 10-30-2009, 03:53 PM

not even worth the work like neo said. plus im sure no matter where you are you can get a s10, theyre a dime a dozen

Nitemare · 10-30-2009, 05:18 PM

dime a dozen lollerskates pun

One Bad S-10 · 10-31-2009, 02:27 PM

I am kind of attached to this body, I love this truck just want to take it a diffrent direction than origonally planned. I would love to find just a frame that would be perfect! I don't want to deal with an AWD or a 4x4 for this truck otherwise I would just drop it.

Thanks for all the input, I guess I'll start looking for a frame if not a truck to do a body swap on. Maybe I can trade my Neon for one!

Nick

Nitemare · 10-31-2009, 04:29 PM

boneyard could even have a frame for ya mayb

towb3 · 10-31-2009, 06:41 PM

Yeah, douchehammer may be fixated on the answer he gave, but you are really set on keeping that body. It is going to be a real headache. I have seen some really nice static dropped 4x4s. Either try and work with that, or find another truck. Maybe just trade your neon for a 2wd and keep your 4 wheel drive. I am sure you will miss having a 4wd when winter comes back around. Good luck

baggedzq8 · 10-31-2009, 08:36 PM

if the spindles are the same height ball joint to ball joint and the distance from the centerline of the ball joints to the hub is the same then 2wd spindles would bolt right up with no issues and they are very close by the naked eye, i just dont know the specific dimensions....

so yes you could lower it with spindles and keys like i said providing the measurements are close...they dont even have to be the same. as long as they are close he shouldnt have any issues

One Bad S-10 · 10-31-2009, 08:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by towb3

Yeah, douchehammer may be fixated on the answer he gave, but you are really set on keeping that body. It is going to be a real headache. I have seen some really nice static dropped 4x4s. Either try and work with that, or find another truck. Maybe just trade your neon for a 2wd and keep your 4 wheel drive. I am sure you will miss having a 4wd when winter comes back around. Good luck

Oh I have 2 other 4x4's which is why I don't want this one 4x4 any more. I have my daily driver '00 BlaZeR2 and my '88.5 Suzuki Samurai with close to 8" (if not more) of lift and 33's which is my toy. I have 13 trucks/cars/motorcycles already and don't need another one. I eventually want this truck to be bagged and I just don't see that happening to a 4x4.

I have already put the word out on some local forums that I'm looking. I even found one on craigslist that has already started the V8 swap and contacted him but haven't heard back yet. But I'll see what happens. This is just my next project in line that I'm going to work on while I'm working on my wifes '52 GMC so I thought I'd start my research.

Nick

towb3 · 10-31-2009, 08:40 PM

Pics of the 52. I am looking for a classic to build. I think I am set on a 60-66 c10. I think your best bet would be to trade or sell the truck for another then.

One Bad S-10 · 11-01-2009, 01:18 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by towb3

Pics of the 52. I am looking for a classic to build. I think I am set on a 60-66 c10. I think your best bet would be to trade or sell the truck for another then.

And for the rest....

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v6...frog/52%20GMC/

Nick

One Bad S-10 · 11-01-2009, 01:19 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by baggedzq8

if the spindles are the same height ball joint to ball joint and the distance from the centerline of the ball joints to the hub is the same then 2wd spindles would bolt right up with no issues and they are very close by the naked eye, i just dont know the specific dimensions....

so yes you could lower it with spindles and keys like i said providing the measurements are close...they dont even have to be the same. as long as they are close he shouldnt have any issues

I'll try and get out there tomorrow and see about taking some measurements....

Nick

towb3 · 11-01-2009, 09:23 AM

That is a nice little project. I wish I could find a 52-57 around here in that good of condition. Good luck with that.

One Bad S-10 · 11-01-2009, 02:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by towb3

That is a nice little project. I wish I could find a 52-57 around here in that good of condition. Good luck with that.

Thanks! We have been looking for a few years now and couldn't find one in the right condition and right price. But we just happen to see this one on the side of this store and thought why not look at it. It's all there but the motor and about 90% rust free! So $900 later we got it! I have a friend who has two origonal motors for these trucks sitting in is storage yard and said I can have one! So I hope to have it mobile by christmas!

Nick

towb3 · 11-02-2009, 03:06 PM

You picked that up for pretty cheap with the little amount of body rot.

Black P-38 · 11-05-2009, 02:42 AM

Hey Nick,
I was looking for a 2wd 2 door Blazer for a V8 project when I came across a decent '85 that is a 4x4. It was so close to what I wanted and at a good price that I just went ahead and bought it.

I started asking alot of the same questions and ended up removing the front diff with plans to swap in a V8 and 2wd 5 speed. Also want to lower it a few inches and run some "street" tires and wheels, basically lose the 4x4 look.

Here's a link to the front drive removal and stub shafts I've done, hope this is helpful to you.

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f10/re...estion-417324/

I got some lowering blocks for the rear I'm gonna try and plan on adjusting the torsion bars to lower the front. I'll be posting some pics of that too as soon as I get to that part of the project...

Mike

One Bad S-10 · 11-05-2009, 07:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Black P-38

Hey Nick,
I was looking for a 2wd 2 door Blazer for a V8 project when I came across a decent '85 that is a 4x4. It was so close to what I wanted and at a good price that I just went ahead and bought it.

I started asking alot of the same questions and ended up removing the front diff with plans to swap in a V8 and 2wd 5 speed. Also want to lower it a few inches and run some "street" tires and wheels, basically lose the 4x4 look.

Here's a link to the front drive removal and stub shafts I've done, hope this is helpful to you.

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f10/re...estion-417324/

I got some lowering blocks for the rear I'm gonna try and plan on adjusting the torsion bars to lower the front. I'll be posting some pics of that too as soon as I get to that part of the project...

Mike

Huh...that's really good info. I keep looking for a little while for a 2wd because around here 4x4 are sought after expecially this time of year when the snow starts flying.....

If I don't find something by summer I might just have to go this route. But on a positive note I might have a lead on a Syclone shell.....

Nick

Black P-38 · 11-07-2009, 09:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by One Bad S-10

But on a positive note I might have a lead on a Syclone shell.....

Nick

SWEET!!!

10-29-2009, 12:38 AM	#1
One Bad S-10 And one bad S-15 Jimmy! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 231 Location: User is: OffLine	Odd Question... I have an '85 4x4 Standard cab short bed that I want to turn into a 2wd dropped with a V8. Can I just take the 2wd suspension off a 2wd truck and bolt it onto mine? Nick
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10-29-2009, 03:01 AM	#2
Nitemare keepin it freshhh Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,819 Location: pawtucket ri User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... nope by a 2wd truck
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10-30-2009, 12:06 AM	#3
One Bad S-10 And one bad S-15 Jimmy! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 231 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... Really!!?? No way huh?? That sucks! Nick
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10-30-2009, 01:05 AM	#4
baggedzq8 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 778 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... if you pm me the measurements of your spindles from ball joint to ball joint i can measure my 2wd spindles and see if its the same height.. i always wondered if you wanted to remove the 4x4 stuff, if you could just put 2wd drop spindles and 3" drop keys and a 5in drop
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10-30-2009, 01:05 AM	#5
baggedzq8 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 778 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... if you dont understand what i mean pm me and ill draw you a pic and email it to you
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10-30-2009, 03:50 AM	#6
Nitemare keepin it freshhh Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,819 Location: pawtucket ri User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... not gonna werk
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10-30-2009, 03:11 PM	#7
One Bad S-10 And one bad S-15 Jimmy! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 231 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... Quote: Originally Posted by baggedzq8 if you pm me the measurements of your spindles from ball joint to ball joint i can measure my 2wd spindles and see if its the same height.. i always wondered if you wanted to remove the 4x4 stuff, if you could just put 2wd drop spindles and 3" drop keys and a 5in drop Um I could do that. I was also wondering if I could just remove all the 4x4 stuff and put some coil springs and shocks in there and call it done. But I figure that it would be easier to just get 2wd a arms and spindles and bolt those in..... Nitemare your so fixed on this any explanation? or are you just positive that this doesn't work. 2wd truck are kind of hard to come by in Colorado and I'm rather cheap and don't need a 14th truck on my property Nick
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10-30-2009, 03:51 PM	#8
neo71665 4x4 v6 blazer Age: 29 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,002 Location: rison arkansas User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... A 4x4 can be converted over to 2wd but its a ton of work and more headache than its worth. The 2wd spindles or a-arms are no where close to fitting the 4x4 frame. Even with you managing to convert it over you will still have to treat it as a 4x4 with the swap parts. You can get rid of the t-bars but the closest thing to coils you will find to fit are coil overs and the kit is about $900, designed for typhoons and syclones. You have to part out the front cv axles and run the outta part in the spindle but will get rid of the front diff. Just find a 2wd frame if your so attached to the body and swap that over. Even better find a bravada t-case and front axle and make a AWD v8. Another option is to find lowering keys and just lower the 4x4, I think you can safely go down almost 4 inches before the front axles start with binding problems from being too low. Last edited by neo71665 : 10-30-2009 at 03:52 PM.
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10-30-2009, 03:53 PM	#9
lee-mill where's my chippy? Age: 20 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,846 Location: staatsburg, ny User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... not even worth the work like neo said. plus im sure no matter where you are you can get a s10, theyre a dime a dozen
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10-30-2009, 05:18 PM	#10
Nitemare keepin it freshhh Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,819 Location: pawtucket ri User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... dime a dozen lollerskates pun
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10-31-2009, 02:27 PM	#11
One Bad S-10 And one bad S-15 Jimmy! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 231 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... I am kind of attached to this body, I love this truck just want to take it a diffrent direction than origonally planned. I would love to find just a frame that would be perfect! I don't want to deal with an AWD or a 4x4 for this truck otherwise I would just drop it. Thanks for all the input, I guess I'll start looking for a frame if not a truck to do a body swap on. Maybe I can trade my Neon for one! Nick
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10-31-2009, 04:29 PM	#12
Nitemare keepin it freshhh Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,819 Location: pawtucket ri User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... boneyard could even have a frame for ya mayb
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10-31-2009, 06:41 PM	#13
towb3 Ehhh! Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,394 Location: Belleville, IL/St.Louis User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... Yeah, douchehammer may be fixated on the answer he gave, but you are really set on keeping that body. It is going to be a real headache. I have seen some really nice static dropped 4x4s. Either try and work with that, or find another truck. Maybe just trade your neon for a 2wd and keep your 4 wheel drive. I am sure you will miss having a 4wd when winter comes back around. Good luck
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10-31-2009, 08:36 PM	#14
baggedzq8 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 778 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... if the spindles are the same height ball joint to ball joint and the distance from the centerline of the ball joints to the hub is the same then 2wd spindles would bolt right up with no issues and they are very close by the naked eye, i just dont know the specific dimensions.... so yes you could lower it with spindles and keys like i said providing the measurements are close...they dont even have to be the same. as long as they are close he shouldnt have any issues
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10-31-2009, 08:37 PM	#15
One Bad S-10 And one bad S-15 Jimmy! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 231 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... Quote: Originally Posted by towb3 Yeah, douchehammer may be fixated on the answer he gave, but you are really set on keeping that body. It is going to be a real headache. I have seen some really nice static dropped 4x4s. Either try and work with that, or find another truck. Maybe just trade your neon for a 2wd and keep your 4 wheel drive. I am sure you will miss having a 4wd when winter comes back around. Good luck Oh I have 2 other 4x4's which is why I don't want this one 4x4 any more. I have my daily driver '00 BlaZeR2 and my '88.5 Suzuki Samurai with close to 8" (if not more) of lift and 33's which is my toy. I have 13 trucks/cars/motorcycles already and don't need another one. I eventually want this truck to be bagged and I just don't see that happening to a 4x4. I have already put the word out on some local forums that I'm looking. I even found one on craigslist that has already started the V8 swap and contacted him but haven't heard back yet. But I'll see what happens. This is just my next project in line that I'm going to work on while I'm working on my wifes '52 GMC so I thought I'd start my research. Nick
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10-31-2009, 08:40 PM	#16
towb3 Ehhh! Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,394 Location: Belleville, IL/St.Louis User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... Pics of the 52. I am looking for a classic to build. I think I am set on a 60-66 c10. I think your best bet would be to trade or sell the truck for another then.
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11-01-2009, 01:18 AM	#17
One Bad S-10 And one bad S-15 Jimmy! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 231 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... Quote: Originally Posted by towb3 Pics of the 52. I am looking for a classic to build. I think I am set on a 60-66 c10. I think your best bet would be to trade or sell the truck for another then. And for the rest.... http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v6...frog/52%20GMC/ Nick
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11-01-2009, 01:19 AM	#18
One Bad S-10 And one bad S-15 Jimmy! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 231 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... Quote: Originally Posted by baggedzq8 if the spindles are the same height ball joint to ball joint and the distance from the centerline of the ball joints to the hub is the same then 2wd spindles would bolt right up with no issues and they are very close by the naked eye, i just dont know the specific dimensions.... so yes you could lower it with spindles and keys like i said providing the measurements are close...they dont even have to be the same. as long as they are close he shouldnt have any issues I'll try and get out there tomorrow and see about taking some measurements.... Nick
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11-01-2009, 09:23 AM	#19
towb3 Ehhh! Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,394 Location: Belleville, IL/St.Louis User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... That is a nice little project. I wish I could find a 52-57 around here in that good of condition. Good luck with that.
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11-01-2009, 02:09 PM	#20
One Bad S-10 And one bad S-15 Jimmy! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 231 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... Quote: Originally Posted by towb3 That is a nice little project. I wish I could find a 52-57 around here in that good of condition. Good luck with that. Thanks! We have been looking for a few years now and couldn't find one in the right condition and right price. But we just happen to see this one on the side of this store and thought why not look at it. It's all there but the motor and about 90% rust free! So $900 later we got it! I have a friend who has two origonal motors for these trucks sitting in is storage yard and said I can have one! So I hope to have it mobile by christmas! Nick
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11-02-2009, 03:06 PM	#21
towb3 Ehhh! Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,394 Location: Belleville, IL/St.Louis User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... You picked that up for pretty cheap with the little amount of body rot.
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11-05-2009, 02:42 AM	#22
Black P-38 1st Gen Blazer V8 Wannabe Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 103 Location: Oregon Coast User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... Hey Nick, I was looking for a 2wd 2 door Blazer for a V8 project when I came across a decent '85 that is a 4x4. It was so close to what I wanted and at a good price that I just went ahead and bought it. I started asking alot of the same questions and ended up removing the front diff with plans to swap in a V8 and 2wd 5 speed. Also want to lower it a few inches and run some "street" tires and wheels, basically lose the 4x4 look. Here's a link to the front drive removal and stub shafts I've done, hope this is helpful to you. http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f10/re...estion-417324/ I got some lowering blocks for the rear I'm gonna try and plan on adjusting the torsion bars to lower the front. I'll be posting some pics of that too as soon as I get to that part of the project... Mike
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11-05-2009, 07:54 PM	#23
One Bad S-10 And one bad S-15 Jimmy! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 231 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... Quote: Originally Posted by Black P-38 Hey Nick, I was looking for a 2wd 2 door Blazer for a V8 project when I came across a decent '85 that is a 4x4. It was so close to what I wanted and at a good price that I just went ahead and bought it. I started asking alot of the same questions and ended up removing the front diff with plans to swap in a V8 and 2wd 5 speed. Also want to lower it a few inches and run some "street" tires and wheels, basically lose the 4x4 look. Here's a link to the front drive removal and stub shafts I've done, hope this is helpful to you. http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f10/re...estion-417324/ I got some lowering blocks for the rear I'm gonna try and plan on adjusting the torsion bars to lower the front. I'll be posting some pics of that too as soon as I get to that part of the project... Mike Huh...that's really good info. I keep looking for a little while for a 2wd because around here 4x4 are sought after expecially this time of year when the snow starts flying..... If I don't find something by summer I might just have to go this route. But on a positive note I might have a lead on a Syclone shell..... Nick
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11-07-2009, 09:04 PM	#24
Black P-38 1st Gen Blazer V8 Wannabe Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 103 Location: Oregon Coast User is: OffLine	Re: Odd Question... Quote: Originally Posted by One Bad S-10 But on a positive note I might have a lead on a Syclone shell..... Nick SWEET!!!
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